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Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body #1198498 03/17/12 08:22 PM 03/17/12 08:22 PM
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 3,957 West Coast, CA T Troy OP master
Troy OP master T Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 3,957 West Coast, CA	OK...who can tell me that these three dimples are for? What plant, what dates were they used? Any info will help. Some cars have them and some don't.....whats up!! The three dimples are located on the passengers side, straight up from the blower motor on the cowl. 7123398-PICT2489.JPG (215 downloads) Last edited by Troy; 03/17/12 08:34 PM. ....there is nothing like driving my 1968 Hemi Dart around town and having people looking at you like you're nuts!!

Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body [Re: Troy] #1198499 03/17/12 08:28 PM 03/17/12 08:28 PM
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 3,957 West Coast, CA T Troy OP master
Troy OP master T Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 3,957 West Coast, CA	Here is a little better picture... 7123413-P1010036.JPG (213 downloads) Last edited by Troy; 03/17/12 09:05 PM. ....there is nothing like driving my 1968 Hemi Dart around town and having people looking at you like you're nuts!!

Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body [Re: Troy] #1198500 03/17/12 08:30 PM 03/17/12 08:30 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	NOX device location holes (all California cars, etc. had them, most others did not so no holes) 7123415-NOX71DemonA.JPG (153 downloads)

Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1198501 03/17/12 08:40 PM 03/17/12 08:40 PM
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 3,957 West Coast, CA T Troy OP master
Troy OP master T Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 3,957 West Coast, CA	ok....but why do some E bodys have the dimples and some body's don't have the dimples?? Does anybody know what plants and dates and what dates were they used?? 7123429-70HemiChallenger(14).JPG (137 downloads) ....there is nothing like driving my 1968 Hemi Dart around town and having people looking at you like you're nuts!!

Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body [Re: Troy] #1198502 03/17/12 08:43 PM 03/17/12 08:43 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	No exact dates but generally speaking early production 1970 cars won't have them, later cars will, the NOX requirement started in 1971 so only later 70's showed the demples (they were getting ready for 71 early on, all plants).

Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1198503 03/17/12 08:50 PM 03/17/12 08:50 PM
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 3,957 West Coast, CA T Troy OP master
Troy OP master T Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 3,957 West Coast, CA	Hi Scott, Hope all is well. The Hemi car picture I posted had a date of 808 and there are no dimples. I have been looking and many cars recently and I can't find and clear cut date on when these were used. ....there is nothing like driving my 1968 Hemi Dart around town and having people looking at you like you're nuts!!

Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body [Re: Troy] #1198504 03/17/12 09:09 PM 03/17/12 09:09 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	I'm guessing that and 808/69 built 1970 Hemi car then?

Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body [Re: Troy] #1198505 03/17/12 09:09 PM 03/17/12 09:09 PM
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6bblgt I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,518 Las Vegas, NV	Here's the firewall on my '71 BH23C1B "pilot" car - it appears to have been built in April '70. (not sure if it had "dimples") 7123453-Dan'scuda003(2).jpg (182 downloads)

Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body [Re: 6bblgt] #1198506 03/17/12 09:12 PM 03/17/12 09:12 PM
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6bblgt I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,518 Las Vegas, NV	& the valve/sensor 7123454-1971-pilot4(2).JPG (150 downloads)

Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body [Re: 6bblgt] #1198507 03/17/12 09:15 PM 03/17/12 09:15 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	It likely did Dan, that NOX valve same style as my 71 Duster came with (October, 02 1970 SPD) 7123458-DusterNOXUnit19713403speed.jpg (114 downloads)

Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1198508 03/17/12 09:19 PM 03/17/12 09:19 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	The Duster holes drilled 7123467-DSC01328.JPG (99 downloads)

Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1198509 03/17/12 09:31 PM 03/17/12 09:31 PM
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 3,957 West Coast, CA T Troy OP master
Troy OP master T Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 3,957 West Coast, CA	Found something..... here is my old T/A ....406 on the fender tag. Look in the picture, no dimples. 7123480-050308SpringFlingXXII398-vi.jpg (137 downloads) ....there is nothing like driving my 1968 Hemi Dart around town and having people looking at you like you're nuts!!

Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body [Re: Troy] #1198510 03/17/12 09:34 PM 03/17/12 09:34 PM
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Troy OP master T Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 3,957 West Coast, CA	..... here is another T/A that was at Carlisle last year. Don't know much about the car other than it was the same color as mine (FT6) This car had the dimples. 7123483-FT62010Carlisle(7).jpg (133 downloads) ....there is nothing like driving my 1968 Hemi Dart around town and having people looking at you like you're nuts!!

Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body [Re: Troy] #1198511 03/17/12 09:56 PM 03/17/12 09:56 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	As I mentioned, it was random in 1970, some had them, some did not, early cars less likely, later cars more likely but not definative. They used parts with no real inventory control back then, no "first in first out" as we commonly see today, it was not a mandated 1970 model year change, just a part that changed during 1970 production. Same applies to other 1970 sheet metal stampings like inner fenders and hoods with and without crush zones.

Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body [Re: 6bblgt] #1198512 03/17/12 09:56 PM 03/17/12 09:56 PM
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6bblgt I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,518 Las Vegas, NV	date code (3-70) & part number 7123523-1971-polit3.JPG (95 downloads)

Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body [Re: Troy] #1198513 03/17/12 09:57 PM 03/17/12 09:57 PM
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 3,957 West Coast, CA T Troy OP master
Troy OP master T Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 3,957 West Coast, CA	....wow, found another, 413 on the fender tag and it has the dimples. 7123528-T0250.jpg (111 downloads) ....there is nothing like driving my 1968 Hemi Dart around town and having people looking at you like you're nuts!!

Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body [Re: 6bblgt] #1198514 03/17/12 09:59 PM 03/17/12 09:59 PM
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fireeng super stock F Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 915 near New Haven, CT	Quote: Here's the firewall on my '71 BH23C1B "pilot" car - it appears to have been built in April '70. (not sure if it had "dimples") When do they start production on the next model year? My 71 challenger (with dimples) was built in sept of 70. I thought that was an early build for a 71. 2016 Diesel Ram 3500 Mason Dump 1971 Challenger 2013 Jeep Wrangler 1979 Dodge Ram Power Wagon 400 Mini Pumper My other car is a Fire Truck.

Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1198515 03/17/12 10:10 PM 03/17/12 10:10 PM
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 3,957 West Coast, CA T Troy OP master
Troy OP master T Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 3,957 West Coast, CA	Quote: As I mentioned, it was random in 1970, some had them, some did not, early cars less likely, later cars more likely but not definative. They used parts with no real inventory control back then, no "first in first out" as we commonly see today, it was not a mandated 1970 model year change, just a part that changed during 1970 production. Same applies to other 1970 sheet metal stampings like inner fenders and hoods with and without crush zones. I'm the first to believe this....nothing was set in stone. but when you find something out of the norm I have to start thinking. I saw a car that I believe is an early car and it HAS the dimples. It is a Hamtramck built car.....can this be?? ....there is nothing like driving my 1968 Hemi Dart around town and having people looking at you like you're nuts!!

Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body [Re: Troy] #1198516 03/17/12 10:32 PM 03/17/12 10:32 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Since there was no "norm" on this topic (known cutoff dates etc.)other than generization there's really nothing out of the "norm" to be noticed, only a variable.

Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1198517 03/17/12 10:51 PM 03/17/12 10:51 PM
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 3,957 West Coast, CA T Troy OP master
Troy OP master T Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 3,957 West Coast, CA	Quote: Since there was no "norm" on this topic (known cutoff dates etc.)other than generalization there's really nothing out of the "norm" to be noticed, only a variable. .... but who are we not to ask question? I think this could be an interesting topic. Lets see where it goes. I was talking to GG one day while we were looking at my car (before it was restored) and he even noticed that I had a "early firewall". My car was as original as can be so he noted it and that was that. Now I came across a car and it is the other way....early car with a late firewall. How can this be?? ....there is nothing like driving my 1968 Hemi Dart around town and having people looking at you like you're nuts!!

Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body [Re: Troy] #1198518 03/17/12 10:58 PM 03/17/12 10:58 PM
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Alaskan_TA Fluffy Balladeer A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 29,654 Hamtramck, PA	The cars were not built in order of VIN. They were not built on their SPD in a lot of cases, often not even the same month as the SPD. Incoming stock was mixed with old. There are too many variables, there is no way to pin down an exact change date because there wasn't one.

Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body [Re: Alaskan_TA] #1198519 03/17/12 11:42 PM 03/17/12 11:42 PM
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6bblgt I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,518 Las Vegas, NV	I agree that you are not going to pin down a date, but there are going to be some specifics that can be said about the 3 "dimple" upper firewall on a '70 e-body. Did LA use this part? With e-body production ending in May '70 - did they recieve any of these firewall panels? Since it appears April in Hamtramck was the some do & some don't "month" are there any built in March with the "dimples" (& I'd say any in Feb. '70 or earlier would be suspect), or any in May without the "dimples" (later w/o would be suspect).

Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body [Re: fireeng] #1198520 03/17/12 11:48 PM 03/17/12 11:48 PM
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6bblgt I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,518 Las Vegas, NV	Quote: Quote: Here's the firewall on my '71 BH23C1B "pilot" car - it appears to have been built in April '70. (not sure if it had "dimples") When do they start production on the next model year? My 71 challenger (with dimples) was built in sept of 70. I thought that was an early build for a 71. "Pilot" cars are built pre-production, production of 1971 model year Chrysler Corp. cars started in August of 1970.

Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body [Re: Troy] #1198521 03/18/12 12:38 AM 03/18/12 12:38 AM
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Sinitro master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,445 So Cal	Quote: OK...who can tell me that these three dimples are for? What plant, what dates were they used? Any info will help. Some cars have them and some don't.....whats up!! The three dimples are located on the passengers side, straight up from the blower motor on the cowl. TROY.. Here is a thread from 3 years back this same question was asked. There is some good info & photos here. In 70 and 71, more & more emission stuff was being required with California cars being about 2 years ahead of the other states.. Also around that time (July, 71) Chrysler was shutting down their Commerce, CA factory just off the 5/710 interchange. So their other factories located outside of CA had to be capable of building cars to meet the CA emission requirements during this changeover.. https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Number=5325096 Just my $0.02..

Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body [Re: Sinitro] #1198522 03/18/12 01:12 AM 03/18/12 01:12 AM
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Alaskan_TA Fluffy Balladeer A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 29,654 Hamtramck, PA	The LA plant stopped producing E-bodies some time in May of 1970. Hamtramck produced N95 E-body models for the 1970 model year also. If you have a March 1970 or later E-body, note the SPD on your tag / broadcast sheet, the actual build month from your original door sticker & whether it has the dimples or not. That will be a start.

Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body [Re: 6bblgt] #1198523 03/18/12 01:16 AM 03/18/12 01:16 AM
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 3,957 West Coast, CA T Troy OP master
Troy OP master T Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 3,957 West Coast, CA	Quote: Since it appears April in Hamtramck was the some do & some don't "month" are there any built in March with the "dimples" (& I'd say any in Feb. '70 or earlier would be suspect), or any in May without the "dimples" (later w/o would be suspect). This is what I'm looking for. I believe that there might not be a definite date but just looking for a ball park date will work. 7123782-GreenHemiCuda001.jpg (70 downloads) ....there is nothing like driving my 1968 Hemi Dart around town and having people looking at you like you're nuts!!

Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body [Re: Troy] #1198524 03/18/12 01:26 AM 03/18/12 01:26 AM
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Alaskan_TA Fluffy Balladeer A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 29,654 Hamtramck, PA	4 - 70 Mylar on that one Troy?

Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body [Re: Alaskan_TA] #1198525 03/18/12 01:30 AM 03/18/12 01:30 AM
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Troy OP master T Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 3,957 West Coast, CA	That is just a random photo that I have collected.. ....there is nothing like driving my 1968 Hemi Dart around town and having people looking at you like you're nuts!!

Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body [Re: Troy] #1198526 03/18/12 01:33 AM 03/18/12 01:33 AM
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Troy OP master T Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 3,957 West Coast, CA	With all of this being said....is there anyway by looking at a dash VIN number can you figure out if that car should have the dimples? ....there is nothing like driving my 1968 Hemi Dart around town and having people looking at you like you're nuts!!

Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body [Re: Troy] #1198527 03/18/12 01:51 AM 03/18/12 01:51 AM
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6bblgt I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,518 Las Vegas, NV	Yes & No. A dash VIN# will give you a SPD, but not an actual production date. It should at least put it in should/might/shouldn't category. I have not cataloged any info on this, but it sounds like GG has.

Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body [Re: Troy] #1198528 03/18/12 01:53 AM 03/18/12 01:53 AM
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Alaskan_TA Fluffy Balladeer A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 29,654 Hamtramck, PA	Quote: With all of this being said....is there anyway by looking at a dash VIN number can you figure out if that car should have the dimples? Nope.

Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body [Re: Troy] #1198529 03/18/12 02:07 AM 03/18/12 02:07 AM
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6bblgt I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,518 Las Vegas, NV	Quote: Hi Scott, Hope all is well. The Hemi car picture I posted had a date of 808 and there are no dimples. I have been looking and many cars recently and I can't find and clear cut date on when these were used. are you sure that's not B08?

Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body [Re: 6bblgt] #1198530 03/18/12 02:14 AM 03/18/12 02:14 AM
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1_WILD_RT Management Trainee Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 27,347 Today? Who Knows?	My old R/T SE has a SPD of 723 & does not have the dimples... I guess it's suspect..... "The Armies of our ancestors were lucky, in that they were not trailed by a second army of pencil pushers."

Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body [Re: 6bblgt] #1198531 03/18/12 02:22 AM 03/18/12 02:22 AM
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 3,957 West Coast, CA T Troy OP master
Troy OP master T Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 3,957 West Coast, CA	Quote: Quote: Hi Scott, Hope all is well. The Hemi car picture I posted had a date of 808 and there are no dimples. I have been looking and many cars recently and I can't find and clear cut date on when these were used. are you sure that's not B08? I have three pictures of the tag and they all look like 808. I don't know if you saw this car Dan. It was that survivor Hemi Challenger that showed up late at the last Spring Fling. Very cool car!! 7123824-70HemiChallenger(5).JPG (96 downloads) ....there is nothing like driving my 1968 Hemi Dart around town and having people looking at you like you're nuts!!

Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body [Re: 1_WILD_RT] #1198532 03/18/12 02:50 AM 03/18/12 02:50 AM
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6bblgt I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,518 Las Vegas, NV	Quote: My old R/T SE has a SPD of 723 & does not have the dimples... I guess it's suspect..... I was trying to point out that there is some rhyme/reason and/or pattern to the dimple vs. no-dimple. The "maybe" period could be the last 3 months of the year. Your "former" car could be the lone exception for the end of July '70, or the last month of production might all be without. My 702 SPD '70 Challenger R/T was finished at least 2 weeks late. It has many '71 attributes. My 801 SPD '71 Barracuda was assembled at least 2 months early. It has many '70 attributes. 7123837-DSC07348(2).JPG (101 downloads)

Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body [Re: Troy] #1198533 03/18/12 02:52 AM 03/18/12 02:52 AM
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6bblgt I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,518 Las Vegas, NV	Quote: I have three pictures of the tag and they all look like 808. I don't know if you saw this car Dan. It was that survivor Hemi Challenger that showed up late at the last Spring Fling. Very cool car!! Yes, and it's B08.

Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body [Re: 6bblgt] #1198534 03/18/12 03:09 AM 03/18/12 03:09 AM
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Troy OP master T Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 3,957 West Coast, CA	ok..... I must have three real bad pictures. I would email you my photos but it does not seem to work. ....there is nothing like driving my 1968 Hemi Dart around town and having people looking at you like you're nuts!!

Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body [Re: Troy] #1198535 03/18/12 04:20 AM 03/18/12 04:20 AM
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autoxcuda Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,471 So Cal	Quote: ok..... I must have three real bad pictures. I would email you my photos but it does not seem to work. Sorry about that. There's sort of a blob of paint right on the SPD there and my camera was not set at the high quality setting. 7123883-000_0059a.JPG (62 downloads) Last edited by autoxcuda; 03/18/12 04:22 AM.

Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body [Re: autoxcuda] #1198536 03/18/12 04:39 AM 03/18/12 04:39 AM
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Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body [Re: Alaskan_TA] #1198537 03/18/12 10:24 AM 03/18/12 10:24 AM
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KISSAlien I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,022 Farmington, CT	Quote: The LA plant stopped producing E-bodies some time in May of 1970. Hamtramck produced N95 E-body models for the 1970 model year also. If you have a March 1970 or later E-body, note the SPD on your tag / broadcast sheet, the actual build month from your original door sticker & whether it has the dimples or not. That will be a start. The SPD on my pink car is 324 but the door mylar is 4-70. It has the dimples. 7123995-DSC01097.jpg (54 downloads)

Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body [Re: Alaskan_TA] #1198538 03/18/12 10:50 AM 03/18/12 10:50 AM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 21,448 It's a dry heat gtx6970 Too Many Posts
gtx6970 Too Many Posts Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 21,448 It's a dry heat	My former Dec 1969 SBD 1970 Challenger did not have the dimples. LA plant

Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body [Re: gtx6970] #1198539 03/18/12 11:13 AM 03/18/12 11:13 AM
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Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body [Re: Bull1tt] #1198540 03/18/12 11:34 AM 03/18/12 11:34 AM
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71TA I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 12,432 Warren, MI	Duh, whats SPD? Scheduled Production Date possibly? Where is that found? Broadcast sheet? Anywhere else? www.DetroitMuscleTechnologies.com Mopar body and heater box restoration gaskets

Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body [Re: 71TA] #1198541 03/18/12 11:35 AM 03/18/12 11:35 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	SPD = Scheduled Production Date

Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body [Re: 71TA] #1198542 03/18/12 11:37 AM 03/18/12 11:37 AM
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71TA I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 12,432 Warren, MI	PS I've never seen the old mechanical voltage regulator on an E body like shown in the picture above. www.DetroitMuscleTechnologies.com Mopar body and heater box restoration gaskets

Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body +72 [Re: 71TA] #1198543 03/18/12 11:58 AM 03/18/12 11:58 AM
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scatcity super stock Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 705 Morningside, Long Island	My early SPD, 810 (71), Hamtramck built 72 Challenger has them as well. 7124081-008.JPG (59 downloads)

Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body [Re: KISSAlien] #1198544 03/18/12 01:17 PM 03/18/12 01:17 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 29,654 Hamtramck, PA A Alaskan_TA Fluffy Balladeer
Alaskan_TA Fluffy Balladeer A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 29,654 Hamtramck, PA	Quote: Quote: The LA plant stopped producing E-bodies some time in May of 1970. Hamtramck produced N95 E-body models for the 1970 model year also. If you have a March 1970 or later E-body, note the SPD on your tag / broadcast sheet, the actual build month from your original door sticker & whether it has the dimples or not. That will be a start. The SPD on my pink car is 324 but the door mylar is 4-70. It has the dimples. Your car is a great example of one that was built late. Looking at your broadcast sheet info & the other sheet you found in it for the 318 car, the 318 car was 43 builds before yours, but the SPD on it is 401. The closest one I have on file so far after yours was 29 builds later, but that car has a SPD of 417. So, for these three cars, the SPDs are quite a ways of, the VIN spread is 23,516 yet they were on the assembly line at the same time 74 cars apart with yours near the middle.

Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body [Re: Alaskan_TA] #1198545 03/18/12 02:36 PM 03/18/12 02:36 PM
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autoxcuda Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,471 So Cal	SPD A21 (Oct 21, 1969) 70 Challenger R/T L.A. Plant 7124295-Copyof70ClngrSrv0033.JPG (47 downloads) Last edited by autoxcuda; 03/18/12 02:59 PM.

Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body [Re: autoxcuda] #1198546 03/18/12 02:50 PM 03/18/12 02:50 PM
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autoxcuda Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,471 So Cal	413 T/A with dimples. 7124321-CopyofFE5ChlgrTA0009.JPG (28 downloads) Last edited by autoxcuda; 03/18/12 02:51 PM.

Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body [Re: Troy] #1198547 03/18/12 02:59 PM 03/18/12 02:59 PM
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71redcuda pro stock Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 1,552 Sweden	Not a chally but my california 71 cuda with spd 926. 7124334-IMG_3926.jpg (75 downloads) Last edited by 71redcuda; 03/18/12 03:14 PM.

Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body [Re: 71redcuda] #1198548 03/18/12 03:06 PM 03/18/12 03:06 PM
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Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body [Re: autoxcuda] #1198549 03/18/12 03:07 PM 03/18/12 03:07 PM
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autoxcuda Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,471 So Cal	Mylar of October 1969. SPD A24 (Oct 24, 1969) 340 A66 vert Challenger no dimples, http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/?cmd=View...RK%3AMEWAX%3AIT

Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body [Re: autoxcuda] #1198550 03/18/12 04:46 PM 03/18/12 04:46 PM
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Matt M super stock M Joined: May 2007 Posts: 1,091 Georgia	My Jan 70 LA Built Cuda does not have them. Matt

Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body [Re: Alaskan_TA] #1198551 03/18/12 05:20 PM 03/18/12 05:20 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,022 Farmington, CT KISSAlien I Live Here
KISSAlien I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,022 Farmington, CT	Quote: Your car is a great example of one that was built late. Looking at your broadcast sheet info & the other sheet you found in it for the 318 car, the 318 car was 43 builds before yours, but the SPD on it is 401. The closest one I have on file so far after yours was 29 builds later, but that car has a SPD of 417. So, for these three cars, the SPDs are quite a ways of, the VIN spread is 23,516 yet they were on the assembly line at the same time 74 cars apart with yours near the middle. I'm still gonna claim it's the first FM3/V6M car. ;-)

Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body [Re: Troy] #1198552 03/18/12 05:22 PM 03/18/12 05:22 PM
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fig426 top fuel F Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 2,103 East Coast, NJ	Quote: ..... here is another T/A that was at Carlisle last year. Don't know much about the car other than it was the same color as mine (FT6) This car had the dimples. Hey Troy. That's my T/A that I had in the Invitational Building in 2010. It's an April car. I'm not home now so can't check the actual build date, but will check it and my other ones if you want. Chris from New Jersey

Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body [Re: fig426] #1198553 03/18/12 06:47 PM 03/18/12 06:47 PM
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MMC Detroit super stock Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 974 www.mmcdetroit.com	October 1970 built at Dodge Main - Original paint 7124630-5holes.jpg (68 downloads) Last edited by MMC ICCA Detroit; 03/18/12 06:50 PM. MMC/ ICCA Detroit. The Motor City or where ever there is Mopars

Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body [Re: MMC Detroit] #1198554 03/18/12 06:52 PM 03/18/12 06:52 PM
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autoxcuda Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,471 So Cal	Quote: October 1970 built at Dodge Main - Original paint So that's a 1971 model year E-body?

Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body [Re: MMC Detroit] #1198555 03/18/12 07:00 PM 03/18/12 07:00 PM
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MMC Detroit super stock Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 974 www.mmcdetroit.com	March 1971 LA Built 340 7124650-Jan1970LA340.JPG (59 downloads) MMC/ ICCA Detroit. The Motor City or where ever there is Mopars

Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body [Re: MMC Detroit] #1198556 03/18/12 07:10 PM 03/18/12 07:10 PM
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Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body [Re: Troy] #1198557 03/18/12 07:16 PM 03/18/12 07:16 PM
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Troy OP master T Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 3,957 West Coast, CA	Quote: ok..... I must have three real bad pictures. I would email you my photos but it does not seem to work. I stand corrected....it is a "B" I emailed you he pictures that I have and with them even enlarged they still look like a 8! Thanks!! ....there is nothing like driving my 1968 Hemi Dart around town and having people looking at you like you're nuts!!

Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body [Re: Troy] #1198558 03/18/12 08:48 PM 03/18/12 08:48 PM
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AARCONV master Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,193 NEW JERSEY	my 70 convertible has the 3 dimples...funny but i never noticed them till now...

Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body [Re: AARCONV] #1198559 03/18/12 10:38 PM 03/18/12 10:38 PM
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 3,957 West Coast, CA T Troy OP master
Troy OP master T Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 3,957 West Coast, CA	Quote: my 70 convertible has the 3 dimples...funny but i never noticed them till now... What is the last 6 digits of you VIN and what is the date on your door sticker? Thanks, Troy ....there is nothing like driving my 1968 Hemi Dart around town and having people looking at you like you're nuts!!

Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body [Re: Troy] #1198560 03/19/12 10:06 AM 03/19/12 10:06 AM
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BS27ROB enthusiast B Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 270 PA	SPD 3-18, door sticker 3-70, Hamtramck, and it has the dimples.

Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body [Re: BS27ROB] #1198561 03/19/12 11:56 AM 03/19/12 11:56 AM
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EV2RTSE super stock Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,026 NJ	3-25 SPD, March door sticker, no dimples.

Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body +72 [Re: scatcity] #1198562 03/19/12 01:07 PM 03/19/12 01:07 PM
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JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,058 U.S.S.A.	Quote: My early SPD, 810 (71), Hamtramck built 72 Challenger has them as well. As it should considering it's a 72 ...

Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body +72 [Re: JohnRR] #1198563 03/19/12 01:58 PM 03/19/12 01:58 PM
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autoxcuda Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,471 So Cal	Anyone witb an E-body with dimples with a SPD or mylar Feburuary 1970 or earlier?

Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body [Re: Troy] #1198564 03/20/12 01:19 PM 03/20/12 01:19 PM
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RoadRunner master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,138 East Aurora (Buffalo) NY	October 1969 for my 70 Challenger R/T SE. No dimples. 68 Road Runner (383/4speed, post car w/decor pkg) - Major Project 69 Road Runner w/472 Hemi & 4 speed. 70 Challenger R/T SE EF8 w/ V9J, U - A32 - Major Project 2023 Ford Mach 1

Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body [Re: 1_WILD_RT] #1198565 03/20/12 01:38 PM 03/20/12 01:38 PM
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Morty426 master M Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 9,550 Sacramento CA	Quote: My old R/T SE has a SPD of 723 & does not have the dimples... I guess it's suspect..... My Shaker Challenger has the same SPD, is the same color as your car and is within 200 VIN numbers. Yet mine has the dimples. Your car must be suspect

Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body [Re: Morty426] #1198566 03/20/12 04:14 PM 03/20/12 04:14 PM
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Troy OP master T Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 3,957 West Coast, CA	With all of your help and a few other pictures that I have dug up I and starting to see a pattern. This has been a worderful help. Keep them coming!! Thanks again!! ....there is nothing like driving my 1968 Hemi Dart around town and having people looking at you like you're nuts!!

Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body [Re: Troy] #1198567 03/20/12 04:55 PM 03/20/12 04:55 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Troy, please explain what pattern you are seeing :

Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1198568 03/20/12 05:26 PM 03/20/12 05:26 PM
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Sinitro master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,445 So Cal	1. In 70, the original firewall tooling for the 70 E-bodies had no dimples 2. In 70/71 as California cars required the Nox device, the firewall tooling was revised with the dimples 3. In 71, cars being sold in California had the firewall dimples punched out to accomodate the Nox device 4. In 72, when all states required the Nox device all firewalls had the 3 holes punched out Just my $0.02...

Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1198569 03/20/12 06:39 PM 03/20/12 06:39 PM
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 3,957 West Coast, CA T Troy OP master
Troy OP master T Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 3,957 West Coast, CA	Quote: Troy, please explain what pattern you are seeing : Early cars, no dimples. Mid run, most cars no dimples but a few did. Late run. most cars had the dimples but few did not. As I said, I need more data. I have aggree with many of you that there is not a cut off date like I thought there would be. ....there is nothing like driving my 1968 Hemi Dart around town and having people looking at you like you're nuts!!

Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body [Re: Troy] #1198570 03/21/12 06:49 PM 03/21/12 06:49 PM
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Mr D21 mopar M Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 592 california	70 Challenger - 3/70 on the door sticker, 312 SPD No dimples.....

Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body [Re: Mr D21] #1198571 03/22/12 11:37 AM 03/22/12 11:37 AM
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Southern Wolf super stock S Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 784 SC	My AAR has a spd of 4-02 on bsheet, but has 3-70 on door and also has dimples. Is this a problem?

Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body [Re: Southern Wolf] #1198572 03/22/12 12:15 PM 03/22/12 12:15 PM
Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 9,550 Sacramento CA M Morty426 master
Morty426 master M Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 9,550 Sacramento CA	Quote: My AAR has a spd of 4-02 on bsheet, but has 3-70 on door and also has dimples. Is this a problem? Not a problem. For that late of production it would be more common to have the dimples.

Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body [Re: Morty426] #1198573 03/23/12 02:08 AM 03/23/12 02:08 AM
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Troy OP master T Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 3,957 West Coast, CA	Seem like most of the T/As and AARs did have the dimples. Knowing when those cars were built that makes the most sense. ....there is nothing like driving my 1968 Hemi Dart around town and having people looking at you like you're nuts!!

Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body [Re: Troy] #1198574 03/23/12 02:47 AM 03/23/12 02:47 AM
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autoxcuda Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,471 So Cal	So far no examples of dimples in Feburary of 1970 or before ??

Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body [Re: autoxcuda] #1198575 03/23/12 03:15 AM 03/23/12 03:15 AM
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6bblgt I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,518 Las Vegas, NV	Quote: So far no examples of dimples in Feburary of 1970 or before ?? or LA

Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body [Re: 6bblgt] #1198576 03/23/12 03:33 AM 03/23/12 03:33 AM
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autoxcuda Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,471 So Cal	Quote: Quote: So far no examples of dimples in Feburary of 1970 or before ?? or LA You're right. Had to look back, but no examples of LA cars with dimples.

Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body [Re: autoxcuda] #1198577 03/25/12 08:12 AM 03/25/12 08:12 AM
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MMC Detroit super stock Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 974 www.mmcdetroit.com	LA 440+6 Cuda with dimples 7134538-1970Cudaengineorig.jpg (72 downloads) MMC/ ICCA Detroit. The Motor City or where ever there is Mopars

Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body [Re: MMC Detroit] #1198578 03/25/12 08:14 AM 03/25/12 08:14 AM
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MMC Detroit super stock Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 974 www.mmcdetroit.com	Second ref shot LA car 7134540-Cudawireclip7.JPG (117 downloads) MMC/ ICCA Detroit. The Motor City or where ever there is Mopars

Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body [Re: MMC Detroit] #1198579 03/25/12 05:41 PM 03/25/12 05:41 PM
Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 9,550 Sacramento CA M Morty426 master
Morty426 master M Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 9,550 Sacramento CA	Additional data: JS29R0B - 9/69? - no dimples JS23ROB - SPD B06 - no dimples JS23V0B - SPD C11 - no dimples JH23G0E - 4/70 - dimples JS23VOB - SPD 723 - dimples JS23V1B - SPD 331 - dimples JH23H1B - SPD 520 - dimples

Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body [Re: Morty426] #1198580 03/26/12 01:23 AM 03/26/12 01:23 AM
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 3,957 West Coast, CA T Troy OP master
Troy OP master T Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 3,957 West Coast, CA	Quote: Additional data: JS29R0B - 9/69? - no dimples JS23ROB - SPD B06 - no dimples JS23V0B - SPD C11 - no dimples JH23G0E - 4/70 - dimples JS23VOB - SPD 723 - dimples JS23V1B - SPD 331 - dimples JH23H1B - SPD 520 - dimples JS23V0B with SPD of 7/23/1969 with dimples, very interesting, very early!! By any chance would you know the first three digits of the VIN sequence number, would you?? Thank you all for your input. ....there is nothing like driving my 1968 Hemi Dart around town and having people looking at you like you're nuts!!

Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body [Re: Troy] #1198581 03/26/12 06:35 AM 03/26/12 06:35 AM
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Culvers enthusiast Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 396 OWL	Quote: Quote: JS23VOB - SPD 723 - dimples JS23V0B with SPD of 7/23/1969 with dimples, very interesting, very early!! I think he means 7/23/1970, so a very late model Culvers

Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body [Re: Culvers] #1198582 03/26/12 12:31 PM 03/26/12 12:31 PM
Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 9,550 Sacramento CA M Morty426 master
Morty426 master M Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 9,550 Sacramento CA	Quote: Quote: Quote: JS23VOB - SPD 723 - dimples JS23V0B with SPD of 7/23/1969 with dimples, very interesting, very early!! I think he means 7/23/1970, so a very late model You sir are correct. It's JS23V0B440xxx built 7/23/1970 - a very popular day for building N96 Challengers.

Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body [Re: Morty426] #1198583 03/26/12 12:39 PM 03/26/12 12:39 PM
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 3,957 West Coast, CA T Troy OP master
Troy OP master T Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 3,957 West Coast, CA	Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: JS23VOB - SPD 723 - dimples JS23V0B with SPD of 7/23/1969 with dimples, very interesting, very early!! I think he means 7/23/1970, so a very late model You sir are correct. It's JS23V0B440xxx built 7/23/1970 - a very popular day for building N96 Challengers. Wow, July!! That is a late car!! ....there is nothing like driving my 1968 Hemi Dart around town and having people looking at you like you're nuts!!

Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body [Re: Troy] #1198584 03/26/12 03:15 PM 03/26/12 03:15 PM
Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 9,550 Sacramento CA M Morty426 master
Morty426 master M Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 9,550 Sacramento CA	Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: JS23VOB - SPD 723 - dimples JS23V0B with SPD of 7/23/1969 with dimples, very interesting, very early!! I think he means 7/23/1970, so a very late model You sir are correct. It's JS23V0B440xxx built 7/23/1970 - a very popular day for building N96 Challengers. Wow, July!! That is a late car!! The lastest I've seen is 730. IIRC that red V code Challenger that was at spring fling many years back was a 730 car

Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body [Re: Morty426] #1198585 03/26/12 03:35 PM 03/26/12 03:35 PM
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 3,957 West Coast, CA T Troy OP master
Troy OP master T Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 3,957 West Coast, CA	Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: JS23VOB - SPD 723 - dimples JS23V0B with SPD of 7/23/1969 with dimples, very interesting, very early!! I think he means 7/23/1970, so a very late model You sir are correct. It's JS23V0B440xxx built 7/23/1970 - a very popular day for building N96 Challengers. Wow, July!! That is a late car!! The lastest I've seen is 730. IIRC that red V code Challenger that was at spring fling many years back was a 730 car That car would have a fun build sheet to look at. Was it a "spicial order" car? How many 1971 Parts were on it?? What were the date codes on many of the parts....early...late?? Very interesting... Thanks for the info. With all this being said there is still on early cars with the dimples.... ....there is nothing like driving my 1968 Hemi Dart around town and having people looking at you like you're nuts!!

Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body [Re: Troy] #1198586 03/26/12 05:12 PM 03/26/12 05:12 PM
Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 9,550 Sacramento CA M Morty426 master
Morty426 master M Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 9,550 Sacramento CA	Well there were a lot of changes that got implemented around January 1970. I know of an early build 71 Barracuda that has the 70 style engine cowl (without the E in it) Also in 71 they changed back to using 2 torsion springs for the decklid.

Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body [Re: Morty426] #1198587 03/27/12 09:05 PM 03/27/12 09:05 PM
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slimert mopar S Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 425 WNY	70 Cuda spd 120 BS23H0B no dimples. 71 Chall spd 828 JS23N1B with dimples.

Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body [Re: slimert] #1198588 03/28/12 08:06 AM 03/28/12 08:06 AM
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VCODE top fuel Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,385 White Plains, NY	70 Challenger B20 SPD no dipples 70 Cuda 416 SPD Dipples Bob Mom & Dad let me buy a brand new 70 Challenger R/T 440 Six-Pack Super Trac Pack when I was 17 (Robert what is a 440 Six-Pack)

Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body [Re: VCODE] #1198589 03/28/12 02:50 PM 03/28/12 02:50 PM
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 3,957 West Coast, CA T Troy OP master
Troy OP master T Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 3,957 West Coast, CA	I just came accross a T/A, 406spd, 4-1970 mylar, with no dimples. Another late car with no dimples. ....there is nothing like driving my 1968 Hemi Dart around town and having people looking at you like you're nuts!!

Re: Info on these three dimples?? 1970 71 E body [Re: autoxcuda] #1198590 03/29/12 03:54 PM 03/29/12 03:54 PM
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cuda-sweden mopar C Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 434 sweden	Quote: So far no examples of dimples in Feburary of 1970 or before ?? 222665/guessing built in dec= no dimples..

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