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Re: Broke the transmission cooler fitting. Not happy.
[Re: Challenger 1]
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01/31/12 12:10 AM
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I had this happen to a small block 727 a few years back. It snapped off flush to the case. An easy out pulled out what was left of the fitting without messing the case up and they actually had the correct fitting in the Help section at the local auto parts store.
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Re: Broke the transmission cooler fitting. Not happy.
[Re: MarkZ]
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02/03/12 02:52 AM
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I had this happen to a small block 727 a few years back. It snapped off flush to the case. An easy out pulled out what was left of the fitting without messing the case up and they actually had the correct fitting in the Help section at the local auto parts store.
I'm, glad it worked out for you. It didn't happen for me.
One of my techs loaned me his Snap-On bolt extractor kit. It didn't move the fitting but it did split the outer part of it. When I tried the larger size all it did was strip the brass.
I grabbed my old Craftsman bolt extractor. It's taking a ferocious bite into the brass but the fitting refuses to turn. The extractor is in there so tight that I'm afraid I'm going to break the aluminum housing.
It looks like I'm down to dropping the valve body and drilling the fitting. This does not make me happy. If it wasn't for this issue, I'd have a good chance of starting the car on Saturday.
Mechanically, I'm down to installing the distributor, putting together one of my carburetors, installing the linkages, and adding fluids.
Then it will be down to installing the new carpet, dropping the seats in, and a couple other small things before driving it to the exhaust shop.
We are brothers and sisters doing time on the planet for better or worse. I'll take the better, if you don't mind.
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Re: Broke the transmission cooler fitting. Not happy.
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02/03/12 03:07 AM
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I had this happen to a small block 727 a few years back. It snapped off flush to the case. An easy out pulled out what was left of the fitting without messing the case up and they actually had the correct fitting in the Help section at the local auto parts store.
I'm, glad it worked out for you. It didn't happen for me.
One of my techs loaned me his Snap-On bolt extractor kit. It didn't move the fitting but it did split the outer part of it. When I tried the larger size all it did was strip the brass.
I grabbed my old Craftsman bolt extractor. It's taking a ferocious bite into the brass but the fitting refuses to turn. The extractor is in there so tight that I'm afraid I'm going to break the aluminum housing.
It looks like I'm down to dropping the valve body and drilling the fitting. This does not make me happy. If it wasn't for this issue, I'd have a good chance of starting the car on Saturday.
Mechanically, I'm down to installing the distributor, putting together one of my carburetors, installing the linkages, and adding fluids.
Then it will be down to installing the new carpet, dropping the seats in, and a couple other small things before driving it to the exhaust shop.
Did you put some heat on it? You dont need to go crazy but sometimes a bit of heat with a Mapp torch gets it done. Also, maybe the reason why the extractors and ez outs didnt work was because the wall of the fitting is thin and those tools are tapered. When you try to remove it, its forcing the broken fitting to bite harder to the case. I would try a straight torx bit, pound one in that fits pretty tight, warm the area with a propane torch and give it a try. Use a Snap On bit as they are less brittle than the cheap stuff. Ive gotten out countless broken fittings this way. 
MB
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Re: Broke the transmission cooler fitting. Not happy.
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02/03/12 09:18 PM
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RapidRobert
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JK Thanks for the tip, I have some brass jets that are fubared badly
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Re: Broke the transmission cooler fitting. Not happy.
[Re: RapidRobert]
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02/04/12 12:54 AM
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Im surprized the spiral type EZ-outs didnt work. I could only guess that the fitting must be cross threaded in. I work at a trans shop and have extracted many broken ones with them. They do make a special fitting for the A518s if the case does crack, not sure if they make one for a 727 though. It's just a longer threaded case fitting that go's in deeper.
Last edited by challengermike; 02/04/12 12:55 AM.
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Re: Broke the transmission cooler fitting. Not happy.
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02/05/12 02:13 AM
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I tried the blue wrench and a new straight flute extractor. In return, I was rewarded with zero progress. It continued stripping the fitting.
I dug around in my plumbing stash and found a spare fitting. It has 1/8 NPT threads. I grabbed my tap and drill bits and went back into the shop.
Dropping the crossmember and resting the oil pan on the steering linkage helped. I was able to shove it off to one side just far enough to work the drill into position.
After some careful reaming and holding my tongue just right I was able to get the hole tapped again. It put up a fight and I had to go fairly slow. The tap was breaking up the remnants of the brass fitting.
I also pulled the cooler line off the car and cleared the threads on it to get rid of all the stripped brass.
That's where it sits right now. Everything will fit back together. I simply need to reassemble the cooler line then put the transmission back in place.
Progress, but a PITA.
We are brothers and sisters doing time on the planet for better or worse. I'll take the better, if you don't mind.
- Stu Harmon
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), so even if you do crack it, you can probably have it repaired cheaper than a core price...
