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Re: good ignition modules? [Re: chargincharles] #1162858 01/26/12 10:51 PM 01/26/12 10:51 PM
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pjc360 OP mopar P Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 653 montana	upon finding the mopar orange ignition module i found a gold module, now i can not tell if this gold module is a mopar gold or what? it has an m with a circle around it and then below that it says mj10009 and below that it says mexico and below that it says 9607 and it has black fins on it, then on that back it says 69303. Is this the mopar gold ignition module? and if so would it be safe to run on my truck? somone told me if i had a good enough coil that it would be ok... the coil i currently have is a borg warner select canister coil brass terminals that i got from oreilly auto parts, would this be a strong enough coil to handle the gold module? or would i have to step it up? and if i have to step it up what coil should i get? The only coils i know of are the borg warner coils and the echlin and the standard coils?

Re: good ignition modules? [Re: pjc360] #1162859 01/26/12 11:58 PM 01/26/12 11:58 PM
Joined: May 2008 Posts: 5,399 Aurora, Colorado 451Mopar master
451Mopar master Joined: May 2008 Posts: 5,399 Aurora, Colorado	Quote: So running an extra ground wire from the ignition module helps? does it have to be grounded to the engine? or can i ground it off the firewall right next to it? It may sound strange, but the way most of our vehicles are wired, the firewall is not at the same ground potential as the engine. In electrical terms it is a ground loop. Most of our cars use a negative battery cable with two wires. A small wire going to the body and a larger wire going to the engine block. When you crank the starter to start the car, a large amount of current flows through the engine block negative wire to the battery. At high current, even small amounts of resistance in the battery ground cable will increase the ground level voltage. Because the body, and ignition box, are connected to a different ground wire the ground reference can be different than the engine block. The ignition box need the same ground reference point to detect the magnetic pulse from the distributor. Even with a wire from the block to ignition box, the ignition may not want to start (under starter load) if the engine block ground has too much resistance. Too much resistance in the battery cables will reduce the operating voltage to the ignition box and ignition coil. That covers the grounding issues that are usually harder to sort out than bad primary wiring, coil or ballast resistor problems. Here is a link to wiki about ground loops: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ground_loop_(electricity)

Re: good ignition modules? [Re: 451Mopar] #1162860 01/27/12 01:34 AM 01/27/12 01:34 AM
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pjc360 OP mopar P Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 653 montana	ok, that makes sense, wt about this gold module i found? is this a mopar gold module? with the numbers that are on it that i posted does anybody recognize it?

Re: good ignition modules? [Re: pjc360] #1162861 01/27/12 01:40 AM 01/27/12 01:40 AM
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pjc360 OP mopar P Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 653 montana	Lets just say for the sake of argument that it is the mopar gold module, is it safe for me to run it on my truck? somone said if i had a good enough coil that it'd be fine, i'm running the borg warner select coil, is this a strong enough coil to handle the mopar gold module?

Re: good ignition modules? [Re: pjc360] #1162862 01/27/12 01:45 AM 01/27/12 01:45 AM
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CrAzYMoPaRGuY I Live Here Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 16,478 Canada	Gold boxes aren't made for street use. CrAzYMoPaRGuY

Re: good ignition modules? [Re: CrAzYMoPaRGuY] #1162863 01/27/12 02:08 AM 01/27/12 02:08 AM
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pjc360 OP mopar P Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 653 montana	well it is a mopar gold module, just had it confirmed, its to bad i cant use it, it looks brand new, but it did have some black spray paint on it and i sanded it off looking for numbers and it scratched some of the gold off it. i guess i'll just hang on to it when i seen how much jegs wants for one new i decided i'd keep it, 165 bucks. guess i'll run the orange module.

Re: good ignition modules? [Re: NachoRT74] #1162864 01/27/12 09:47 AM 01/27/12 09:47 AM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 4,920 Joplin, MO USA Robbins master
Robbins master Joined: May 2004 Posts: 4,920 Joplin, MO USA	Quote: although actually I liked more the FBO A688 UNTILL BROKE DOWN ( just 4 months RUNNING even 20 months mounted ). It had better start up too.the old FBO A688 has been the best I have used, including the chromed MP ones... BUT... I felt the same way and then it went out. Then I got his new GM stuff and it when out already also. Moparlee

Re: good ignition modules? [Re: Robbins] #1162865 01/27/12 10:33 AM 01/27/12 10:33 AM
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YO7_A66 master Y Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,443 Indiana	I agree that the original FBO A688 (ballast style) was the best ECU that I have run to date. The second generation FBO HR688 (non ballast style) only lasted 4 months on my car. I sent that box in so that FBO can perform a warranty upgrade into their new HHR688 (non ballast, rev limiter) in October, and I am being told that it will not be ready until March. If this new box performs at least as well as the original A688 box, then that box would be a good choice for the stock replacement ECU upgrade. 1970 YO7 A66 [Canadian Export] F8 Challenger 340 (Currently in shop for stroker assy.)

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