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Very cold temps and auto trans performance? #1150747
01/05/12 12:59 AM
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Was 11* when I left my house this morning. Jumped in my low mileage '01 ram 1500 4x4 (5.9mag). No warm up, just got in and went. Trans did not want to shift into overdrive for about the first 10 minutes, then seemed to be normal after that. Is this just an issue with thick trans fluid not warmed up, or is this a sign of trouble brewing?


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Re: Very cold temps and auto trans performance? [Re: GO_Fish] #1150748
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I wouldn't be worried about it.


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Re: Very cold temps and auto trans performance? [Re: GO_Fish] #1150749
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10 minutes is a long time .. how cold was it? LIKE up in cAnUkAdA ?

Re: Very cold temps and auto trans performance? [Re: BeEtLeJuIcE !] #1150750
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Run it a few minutes in neutral, not park, then try it.

Re: Very cold temps and auto trans performance? [Re: GO_Fish] #1150751
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Normal. It's in the Owner Manual: Transmission will stay in third until the trans gets to a certain temp and then it'll catch 4th. Reason given by Chrysler? Fluid is too thick to flow back to the overdrive in the tail-end of the trans. That's how the early Overdrives burnt out: lack of oil.

Is there a way around it? Yup. Just like the old Torqueflites: set the e-brake and idle it in "neutral" while it's warming up.


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Re: Very cold temps and auto trans performance? [Re: Grizzly] #1150752
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yep, not programmed to engage into OD until a certain temperature is reached. Not sure if it's engine or tranny temp though.


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Re: Very cold temps and auto trans performance? [Re: Magnumguy] #1150753
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Okay guys, thanks for the good news! I got to thinking about it, and it was probably 3 or 4 miles before it went into overdrive, so more like 5 minutes after cold start instead of 10 minutes I stated at first. It shifted normal this morning, only down in the 20's this morning.


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Re: Very cold temps and auto trans performance? [Re: GO_Fish] #1150754
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I have driven trips of 30 and more miles in the dead of winter when temps were -30 and plus cold blowing snow and the transmission never did shift into OD.

Re: Very cold temps and auto trans performance? [Re: MoparforLife] #1150755
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Quote:

I have driven trips of 30 and more miles in the dead of winter when temps were -30 and plus cold blowing snow and the transmission never did shift into OD.




Yep, mine does it too. Normal. Even if you block the whole front-end off it will still do it: the wind flowing under your truck at highway speed is super-duper cold and it chills any heat away that the transmission is building.

Way around it? pull over to a sheltered spot, let it run in neutral for about 5 minutes or better and hit the highway again. If you have flat ground it will grab 4th and stay there. If it downshifts for a hill, you're right back in 3rd again for the rest of the trip.

Another way around it? Yes, this T.S.B. may help you.


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Re: Very cold temps and auto trans performance? [Re: Grizzly] #1150756
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Similar results here. Had a few early non lockup 518's that almost seemed as if it needed to get above freezing, temp wise, and I don't know where that sensor is, but they were all the same. sub zero weather would keep overdrive out until certain temp was reached.







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