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B-body front end rebuild kit - Where to go? #114248 09/02/08 08:56 PM 09/02/08 08:56 PM
Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 4,319 Puyallup, WA S StealthWedge67 OP master
StealthWedge67 OP master S Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 4,319 Puyallup, WA	front end needs gone through on my 67 Satellite. Guess I'll take a stab at doing it myself. Any reason to NOT buy this kit? Anyone here used this kit before? Is there any difference from one to another? (I'm new to front end work, but willing to learn) http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayIS...bayphotohosting Budget is the main issue here. This is a weekend street / strip car & just needs a stock front end under it. LemonWedge - Street heavy / Strip ready - 11.07 @ 120

Re: B-body front end rebuild kit - Where to go? [Re: StealthWedge67] #114249 09/02/08 09:54 PM 09/02/08 09:54 PM
Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,373 Rancho Cucamonga, CA D_C pro stock
D_C pro stock Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,373 Rancho Cucamonga, CA	Hmmmm... The kit looks complete, but I wonder.... Have you priced-out the same parts at your local autoparts store? On my '71 Charger, I replaced the front-end parts in 2000. I don't recall the total parts bill as being that high ($254 plus $22 for shipping) but then again, it was 7-8 years ago. It was do-able, but there were challenges, like getting the torsion-bars dislodged (they make a good clamp-tool to remove 'em with a sledge-hammer) and pressing the lower-control-arm bushings out of the arms was no picnic either. A giant pipe-wrench came in handy for unscrewing the upper ball-joints (though some are "press-In" type, mine were threaded.) I media-blasted all the re-usable parts and painted/repainted. A Factory-Service-Manual comes in handy too.

Re: B-body front end rebuild kit - Where to go? [Re: StealthWedge67] #114250 09/02/08 11:27 PM 09/02/08 11:27 PM
Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 30 Texas amchale member
amchale member Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 30 Texas	I got mine from Performance Suspension several years back (http://www.performancesuspension.com/) for $250 and it came very complete. I did it myself for the most part and had to run to the local parts store to get the loaner tool for the upper control arm bushings and for the socket to remove the upper ball joints. I had to take the lower control arms to a shop with a press to push the bushings out and the new ones in, the local shop only charged something like $20 to do those. Also check with whoever you buy the kit from about the metal sleeves from the lower control arm bushings, you usually have to save and reuse them when replacing the old ones with new rubber. Maybe those are repopped somewhere too now...?

Re: B-body front end rebuild kit - Where to go? [Re: amchale] #114251 09/03/08 12:42 AM 09/03/08 12:42 AM
Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 4,319 Puyallup, WA S StealthWedge67 OP master
StealthWedge67 OP master S Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 4,319 Puyallup, WA	Good info, guys... keep it coming. I'll make a list before I jump in. This will be my wintertime project. LemonWedge - Street heavy / Strip ready - 11.07 @ 120

Re: B-body front end rebuild kit - Where to go? [Re: StealthWedge67] #114252 09/03/08 05:56 AM 09/03/08 05:56 AM
Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 23 San Jose Brute member
Brute member Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 23 San Jose	With suspension parts you are going to get what you pay for. If I was you I would spend the little bit of extra cash now and get all Moog stuff if you can. While you are it opt for the later tie rods since they are larger and were cheaper last time I checked.

Re: B-body front end rebuild kit - Where to go? [Re: Brute] #114253 09/03/08 07:34 AM 09/03/08 07:34 AM
Joined: May 2007 Posts: 1,443 Maryland D Dads426 pro stock
Dads426 pro stock D Joined: May 2007 Posts: 1,443 Maryland	On our Challenger I bought a kit. Still had to buy a separate pitman arm. On the 64, I bought everything from Advance Auto and Rock Auto depending on who had the lowest price. It takes longer to compare prics, but you can choose which brand to buy. Came out cheaper buying it piecemeal. Advance had a deal where if you buy more than $50 and shipping weight is under 20 lbs, shipping is free. For Rock Auto, search this site for a 5% disount code (cuts shipping costs). 2012 422 Allstars NSS Champion 2013 422 Allstars NSS Champion 2014 422 Allstars NSS Champion

Re: B-body front end rebuild kit - Where to go? [Re: StealthWedge67] #114254 09/03/08 03:13 PM 09/03/08 03:13 PM
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,592 None 71rm23 master
71rm23 master Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,592 None	I thought there was a posting here a while ago about Moog. There were the pros and cons of using Moog. If I remember, there made in China, Japan and the fitting wasn't as good as some others One of the companies makes everything here in the USA. Not trying to P.O anyone but if this is the case, I'd rather have a product that fits good as well. Just keep an open mind

Re: B-body front end rebuild kit - Where to go? [Re: 71rm23] #114255 09/03/08 03:32 PM 09/03/08 03:32 PM
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 10,645 Houston, Tx A AlexP I Live Here
AlexP I Live Here A Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 10,645 Houston, Tx	When I recently did the front end on my car, I got Summit Racing to pricematch Rockauto on the Moog components, and then saved a ton on money with Summits flat shipping rate. Just figure out all the pieces you need from Rockautos catalog and reference back and forth. 30 mins of searched saved me almost $100. My Build thread: Let the hemi swap begin! 1968 wanna be pro touring whatchamacallit with some fancy stuff and a new roof skin.

Re: B-body front end rebuild kit - Where to go? [Re: AlexP] #114256 09/03/08 03:36 PM 09/03/08 03:36 PM
Joined: May 2007 Posts: 1,443 Maryland D Dads426 pro stock
Dads426 pro stock D Joined: May 2007 Posts: 1,443 Maryland	Quote: When I recently did the front end on my car, I got Summit Racing to pricematch Rockauto on the Moog components, and then saved a ton on money with Summits flat shipping rate. Just figure out all the pieces you need from Rockautos catalog and reference back and forth. 30 mins of searched saved me almost $100. Sweeeeet! I'll have to remember that! 2012 422 Allstars NSS Champion 2013 422 Allstars NSS Champion 2014 422 Allstars NSS Champion

Re: B-body front end rebuild kit - Where to go? [Re: 71rm23] #114257 09/03/08 05:26 PM 09/03/08 05:26 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 12,494 Western Colorado High Desert moparmarks I Live Here
moparmarks I Live Here Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 12,494 Western Colorado High Desert	Quote: I thought there was a posting here a while ago about Moog. There were the pros and cons of using Moog. If I remember, there made in China, Japan and the fitting wasn't as good as some others One of the companies makes everything here in the USA. Not trying to P.O anyone but if this is the case, I'd rather have a product that fits good as well. Just keep an open mind Moog is the best you can get. 72 Satellite Sebring Plus 440, 72 Dart 5.9 4-spd, 68 Valiant, 73 W200, 78 D100 sb, 78 D200, 98 DAKOTA, . Moparmarks Parts & Restorations Desert Mopar Metal Grand Jct. CO 970-261-7039 http://moparmark.com/ motormangj@gmail.com

Re: B-body front end rebuild kit - Where to go? [Re: Dads426] #114258 09/03/08 08:48 PM 09/03/08 08:48 PM
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 10,645 Houston, Tx A AlexP I Live Here
AlexP I Live Here A Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 10,645 Houston, Tx	Quote: Quote: When I recently did the front end on my car, I got Summit Racing to pricematch Rockauto on the Moog components, and then saved a ton on money with Summits flat shipping rate. Just figure out all the pieces you need from Rockautos catalog and reference back and forth. 30 mins of searched saved me almost $100. Sweeeeet! I'll have to remember that! My Build thread: Let the hemi swap begin! 1968 wanna be pro touring whatchamacallit with some fancy stuff and a new roof skin.

Re: B-body front end rebuild kit - Where to go? [Re: AlexP] #114259 09/06/08 04:00 PM 09/06/08 04:00 PM
Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,373 Rancho Cucamonga, CA D_C pro stock
D_C pro stock Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,373 Rancho Cucamonga, CA	You will also need to do a crude alignment to drive a short distance to an alignment shop or have it towed to the shop. Here is a "Car Craft" article on how to do a Home-Alignment: http://www.carcraft.com/howto/48938/index.html

Re: B-body front end rebuild kit - Where to go? [Re: D_C] #114260 09/07/08 12:44 AM 09/07/08 12:44 AM
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,592 None 71rm23 master
71rm23 master Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,592 None	Is there a kit with everything you need for the front end rebuilt or do you have to buy them individually?

Re: B-body front end rebuild kit - Where to go? [Re: 71rm23] #114261 09/07/08 01:21 AM 09/07/08 01:21 AM
Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 4,319 Puyallup, WA S StealthWedge67 OP master
StealthWedge67 OP master S Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 4,319 Puyallup, WA	I can only assume that the kit I linked in the original post comes with everything you need. I want good components, but at the same time, this is no Porsche, no matter what we do. I really just want it to be solid rolling down the road, and something I feel confident in @ 100 MPH @ the strip. LemonWedge - Street heavy / Strip ready - 11.07 @ 120

Re: B-body front end rebuild kit - Where to go? [Re: 71rm23] #114262 09/09/08 03:30 PM 09/09/08 03:30 PM
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,592 None 71rm23 master
71rm23 master Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,592 None	Anyone? Or do you have to buy them all separate?

Re: B-body front end rebuild kit - Where to go? [Re: 71rm23] #114263 09/09/08 03:46 PM 09/09/08 03:46 PM
Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,074 So Cal, USA Fab64 super stock
Fab64 super stock Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,074 So Cal, USA	It depends on how much work you want to put into it, how much money you want to spend and how particular you are about the quality of parts you want. You can buy a complete kit or buy all the pieces individually. Most kits are cheaper than buying everything individually. However, some folks think the pieces in the kits are of lower quality, since they may be imported from who knows where. Here are two recent posts on this subject: Post 1 Post 2

Re: B-body front end rebuild kit - Where to go? [Re: Fab64] #114264 09/09/08 08:37 PM 09/09/08 08:37 PM
Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 2,118 at large M moparphillie top fuel
moparphillie top fuel M Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 2,118 at large	I bought all Moog components from Mancini when I did my '65 Belvedere I last year. I received the complete order shipment ( no back ordered items ) the next day after I placed the phone order. I forgot to mention Moparts, but I believe that Mancini gives a discount to Moparts members. Just my

Re: B-body front end rebuild kit - Where to go? [Re: moparphillie] #114265 09/29/08 03:25 PM 09/29/08 03:25 PM
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,592 None 71rm23 master
71rm23 master Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,592 None	I see that most replies are for Moog. Here's a question now: Is Moog as good or the same for Spicer as well? I don't see many good post for poly. I dont want to put in parts from Japan or China in my Mopar Thanks

Re: B-body front end rebuild kit - Where to go? [Re: 71rm23] #114266 10/02/08 08:25 PM 10/02/08 08:25 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,679 Mansfield,Ohio moparrulzzz top fuel
moparrulzzz top fuel Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,679 Mansfield,Ohio	Quote: I see that most replies are for Moog. Here's a question now: Is Moog as good or the same for Spicer as well? I don't see many good post for poly. I dont want to put in parts from Japan or China in my Mopar Thanks Does Moog have a low end and a high end part like spicer??

Re: B-body front end rebuild kit - Where to go? [Re: moparrulzzz] #114267 10/02/08 11:13 PM 10/02/08 11:13 PM
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BADBEE master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,624 Ozark Mo.	It would be nice to get the complete Moog parts for this job and post it in the tech archives. I am looking to do this same jobe very soon and it would be handy to have those numbers to contact Summit.

Re: B-body front end rebuild kit - Where to go? [Re: BADBEE] #114268 10/03/08 03:49 AM 10/03/08 03:49 AM
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,592 None 71rm23 master
71rm23 master Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,592 None	Quote: It would be nice to get the complete Moog parts for this job and post it in the tech archives. I am looking to do this same jobe very soon and it would be handy to have those numbers to contact Summit.

Re: B-body front end rebuild kit - Where to go? [Re: 71rm23] #114269 10/03/08 04:59 AM 10/03/08 04:59 AM
Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 23 San Jose Brute member
Brute member Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 23 San Jose	If anyone doesn't do this by tomorrow night I can post up any numbers out of the moog catalog that you need. One problem I have found working in the auto parts industry is that no matter what the box says sometimes you will run across reboxed parts from changeovers or simply from shady individuals who swap parts and return the cheap parts in the expensive part's box. That why I ordered all of my Moog front end parts and made sure to check each part to make sure it was really a moog part and not some no name rebox.

Re: B-body front end rebuild kit - Where to go? [Re: Brute] #114270 10/03/08 10:57 AM 10/03/08 10:57 AM
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,592 None 71rm23 master
71rm23 master Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,592 None	Quote: If anyone doesn't do this by tomorrow night I can post up any numbers out of the moog catalog that you need. One problem I have found working in the auto parts industry is that no matter what the box says sometimes you will run across reboxed parts from changeovers or simply from shady individuals who swap parts and return the cheap parts in the expensive part's box. That why I ordered all of my Moog front end parts and made sure to check each part to make sure it was really a moog part and not some no name rebox. How do you know if it is reboxed or not? Does Moog put the P/N's on the parts? Also, Is moog better than Spicer? I would like the P/N's for Moog as well, for my '71 RR...THANX

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