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Re: leafspring car goes 4.48@169 sheesh! [Re: John Burdine] #1124802
12/01/11 06:27 PM
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While technically that is a "leaf spring" car, it's far from a stock suspention. As mentioned the FAST guys are in the 9's w/ SS Springs.




would you rather see more 4 bar mustangs?




nope just an observaton. I'm guessing that if I had the MONEY to put together a 600ci motor w/ a big butt turbo that runs on alky I could make a Mopar do just as well.

Re: leafspring car goes 4.48@169 sheesh! [Re: Mr.Yuck] #1124803
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These have been the worst responses I have ever read.......

No torsion no care..... Who cares if it's torsion or coil over.... 4.68 seconds to the eight on a drag radial tire did you miss that part of the title

Cal tracs are way closer to stock suspension than any of the beloved ss/ah or NSS car, and it's not far from stock at all.... It's a mono leaf spring and a traction bar for god sake.

Fast cars are cool..... But this is not the same eague people.....

And yuck, if you can do it, than prove it......


This is the direction drag racing is going and if mopar people don't get on board we will all be hanging out watching the same 200 cars go down the track till the folks that own them pass away.....

Re: leafspring car goes 4.48@169 sheesh! [Re: joshking440] #1124804
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At least that dude runs a PTC Conveter..Same brand that i use in my 63 chrysler...

Re: leafspring car goes 4.48@169 sheesh! [Re: joshking440] #1124805
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Josh If you want to sport me the money I'll be glad to do it.

Re: leafspring car goes 4.48@169 sheesh! [Re: Mr.Yuck] #1124806
12/01/11 10:57 PM
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i think i am going to put my stroker in a fox body.. now there i said it lol just joking

Re: leafspring car goes 4.48@169 sheesh! [Re: joshking440] #1124807
12/01/11 11:02 PM
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And yuck, if you can do it, than prove it......


This is the direction drag racing is going and if mopar people don't get on board we will all be hanging out watching the same 200 cars go down the track till the folks that own them pass away.....





easy, buy that camaro for 25cents on the dollar and the thousands of hours they have testing and put a cuda body on it. if you feel bad about the chevy engine, build a mopar engine and stick it in there

and Josh, we are all routing for you to get there. looks like you need to lose alot of weight compared to that car


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Re: leafspring car goes 4.48@169 sheesh! [Re: Mr.Yuck] #1124808
12/01/11 11:20 PM
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Josh If you want to sport me the money I'll be glad to do it.




Too late, Josh is spotting all his money to me, 622 Predator, alky injected, biggest crank driven Procharger or twins, its on! only problem since its my car and i'll be attempting to tune it, it would probably run closer to 5.48 instead of 4.48, but hey i'll try.

Re: leafspring car goes 4.48@169 sheesh! [Re: joshking440] #1124809
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These have been the worst responses I have ever read.......

No torsion no care..... Who cares if it's torsion or coil over.... 4.68 seconds to the eight on a drag radial tire did you miss that part of the title

Cal tracs are way closer to stock suspension than any of the beloved ss/ah or NSS car, and it's not far from stock at all.... It's a mono leaf spring and a traction bar for god sake.

Fast cars are cool..... But this is not the same eague people.....

And yuck, if you can do it, than prove it......


This is the direction drag racing is going and if mopar people don't get on board we will all be hanging out watching the same 200 cars go down the track till the folks that own them pass away.....




BINGO

Re: leafspring car goes 4.48@169 sheesh! [Re: John Burdine] #1124810
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If your counting on my money then your not looking to go real fast. I can promise you that.

Re: leafspring car goes 4.48@169 sheesh! [Re: joshking440] #1124811
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Awe cmon Josh we all know you made a half million on Monster Mopar


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Re: leafspring car goes 4.48@169 sheesh! [Re: John Burdine] #1124812
12/02/11 05:15 AM
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Lets take a look at the O/P and "discuss" a few items.

No beadlocks. Tires are screwed to rims; isn't that effectively the same thing?

No antiroll bar. I would think one would fight the tuning of the Caltracs.

Leaf springs. The weakness of leaf spring cars is the wrap-up of the front section - the Caltracs eliminate that, which makes it basicly a ladder bar at that time.

Don't get me wrong - hats off to anybody running those numbers, period. I'm just tossing a little light on a few items that I haven't seen "lit".


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Re: leafspring car goes 4.48@169 sheesh! [Re: Evil Spirit] #1124813
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i guess we all see things very different, to me when someone like Dave Wolf can run at 3400 lbs on a 315 MT ET Street radial, stock style suspension and hang with an NHRA Pro Stock car, thats just plain cool. I dont care if he has 2 632's and 4 turbos, it still looks like a street car.

Re: leafspring car goes 4.48@169 sheesh! [Re: John Burdine] #1124814
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i guess we all see things very different, to me when someone like Dave Wolf can run at 3400 lbs on a 315 MT ET Street radial, stock style suspension and hang with an NHRA Pro Stock car, thats just plain cool. I dont care if he has 2 632's and 4 turbos, it still looks like a street car.




Certainly cool; like I said - hats off to him. It shows that $5 worth of screws can work instead of a $500 beadlock rim. It shows a chassis can use a slightly modified leaf spring setup and run extremely hard without haviing to stack up 5 different chassis systems. I was kinda pointing out how well a car can work without all the latest widgets, not bashing the lack of them.


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Re: leafspring car goes 4.48@169 sheesh! [Re: Evil Spirit] #1124815
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i here what your saying, sometimes this bragging about "stock suspension" is a bit out of control.

Re: leafspring car goes 4.48@169 sheesh! [Re: John Burdine] #1124816
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493John don't forget who you are discussing this with, some of the "racers" on here won't even cut holes <or butcher as they say> in the front fenders to get a decent size header on there car, they don't see that other than the power plant it's still old tech.

Re: leafspring car goes 4.48@169 sheesh! [Re: Randy..] #1124817
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I find it amusing the things some people think are "cutting edge". Not slamming John Calvert - he's done a LOT for suspensions - but a lot of the things that people think are new I saw done 40 years ago. For instance the split segment springs - with different front and rear segments - my uncle did that stuff 40+ years ago. Also used solid or box tubing instead of the front segment, and even more outside the box - would weld the front segments together down the sides, leaving the rear to provide the spring - all done to keep the front section from wrapping up, or wheelhop. Add a little adjustment into the front mount point and you have a pretty well working "leaf spring" car.
Sometimes todays "cutting edge" isn't as sharp as it might appear.


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Re: leafspring car goes 4.48@169 sheesh! [Re: Quicktree] #1124818
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you put enough controllable HP to any kind of suspension you can go fast. I think the F.A.S.T. cars have proved that.




Best answer,good to see you still have gray matter.

Re: leafspring car goes 4.48@169 sheesh! [Re: joshking440] #1124819
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This is the direction drag racing is going and if mopar people don't get on board we will all be hanging out watching the same 200 cars go down the track till the folks that own them pass away.....




Not to pick, but this statement makes no sense in my area and probably many other areas. I think tracks run what brings in the money. Drag radial cars run at our track 1/mo and bracket cars we get a ton of and run twice a week. I don't see it catching on up here like it must be else where...So until they mandate us to run DR tires, bracket racing is what we do around here and we run slicks.

Heads up racing isn't real big here either. I love watching the DR stuff, but realistically, its not for guys on a budget. How is it you figure this is the future? We have heard this before from the FWD crowd, and those things are no where to be seen anymore.

I am sure if more Mopar people had the busget, we would run some classes like those, but not many of us do. Don't get me wrong, we love watching them and reading about them, but they are not cheap to build, and finding a local venue isn't easy either.


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Re: leafspring car goes 4.48@169 sheesh! [Re: Dragula] #1124820
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Those time are awesome. That car rocks & many other Chevy's out there doing it. Yes, we need more Mopar's out there doing this as well. We all know it cost more to build a Mopar.
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Get that Duster back out at Milan. Your build is further along than mine so you will probably beat me out there to take on all of these Chevy's & Mustangs we have in Drag Radial on those Friday nights.


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Re: leafspring car goes 4.48@169 sheesh! [Re: Evil Spirit] #1124821
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I find it amusing the things some people think are "cutting edge". Not slamming John Calvert - he's done a LOT for suspensions - but a lot of the things that people think are new I saw done 40 years ago. For instance the split segment springs - with different front and rear segments - my uncle did that stuff 40+ years ago. Also used solid or box tubing instead of the front segment, and even more outside the box - would weld the front segments together down the sides, leaving the rear to provide the spring - all done to keep the front section from wrapping up, or wheelhop. Add a little adjustment into the front mount point and you have a pretty well working "leaf spring" car.
Sometimes todays "cutting edge" isn't as sharp as it might appear.




Yep. Back in the '70's a buddy of mine had traction bars on a '67 Fairlane that were a frontrunner to Cal-Tracs. They just did not have the adjustable links. Traction Masters maybe?


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