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question on taking of weight #1124642 11/30/11 09:16 PM 11/30/11 09:16 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,055 Salina ks 572_dup2 OP Back On The Bumper!!
572_dup2 OP Back On The Bumper!! Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,055 Salina ks	Does it matter where you take it off? Is weight still weight? I'm putting glass trunk on it will take off 50lbs. I've taken weight off before not this much at once though. How much power does it take to push 50lbs? Shawn Jennings

Re: question on taking of weight [Re: 572_dup2] #1124643 11/30/11 09:29 PM 11/30/11 09:29 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,980 United Socialist States of Ame... T tboomer Too Many Posts
tboomer Too Many Posts T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,980 United Socialist States of Ame...	Shawn...How ya doing? Not much help but mine is down to 3230#...What do you come in at? Need your rear end checked out? Contact Grizzly!!

Re: question on taking of weight [Re: 572_dup2] #1124644 11/30/11 09:32 PM 11/30/11 09:32 PM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,318 State of confusion T Thumperdart I Live Here
Thumperdart I Live Here T Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,318 State of confusion	USUALLY guys like myself and others w/52% or more weight on the nose take it from there but w/those big wheelies of yours the trunk might actually help it. 72 Dart 470 n/a BB stroker street car `THUMPER`...Check me out on FB Dominic Thumper for videos and lots of carb pics......760-900-3895.....

Re: question on taking of weight [Re: Thumperdart] #1124645 11/30/11 09:45 PM 11/30/11 09:45 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,055 Salina ks 572_dup2 OP Back On The Bumper!!
572_dup2 OP Back On The Bumper!! Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,055 Salina ks	With me in car dead on 3500 Shawn Jennings

Re: question on taking of weight [Re: 572_dup2] #1124646 11/30/11 09:46 PM 11/30/11 09:46 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,840 The Swamp S Sixpak master
Sixpak master S Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,840 The Swamp	Depends on the total weight and weight distribution of the car now. Might help, might hurt. Weight back there usually helps with traction. I once read I think in the old DC manuals that for every 100 pounds you remove you can gain a tenth; with lighter cars it was 75 pounds for a tenth.

Re: question on taking of weight [Re: Thumperdart] #1124647 11/30/11 09:46 PM 11/30/11 09:46 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,225 Charleston S sixpackgut Drag Week Mod Champion
sixpackgut Drag Week Mod Champion S Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,225 Charleston	Quote: USUALLY guys like myself and others w/52% or more weight on the nose take it from there but w/those big wheelies of yours the trunk might actually help it. was thinking the same thing. .05 et decrease Last edited by sixpackgut; 12/01/11 12:35 AM. Gen 3 power 6.22@110, 9.85@135 Follow @g3hemiswap on instagram performance only racing, CRT, ultimate converter, superior design concepts, ThumperCarbs

Re: question on taking of weight [Re: ] #1124649 11/30/11 11:33 PM 11/30/11 11:33 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 6,849 F fullmetaljacket master
fullmetaljacket master F Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 6,849	I would think being that you run Leaf springs with HD Truck shocks that the weight would probably be your best buddy back there. If it were a chassis car, than weight taken off any where would not be an issue because of the adjustable suspension counter parts. You could try it but I think you are going to be putting it right back. Take any thing off from the rear of the door jams and forward. Anything.

Re: question on taking of weight [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1124650 12/01/11 12:28 AM 12/01/11 12:28 AM
Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,288 Oregon sg66mopar pro stock
sg66mopar pro stock Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,288 Oregon	Whack it off. Less weight is always good. That'll give you the incentive to take some off the front to get the distribution back.

Re: question on taking of weight [Re: 572_dup2] #1124651 12/01/11 12:36 AM 12/01/11 12:36 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,060 Oregon A AndyF I Win
AndyF I Win A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,060 Oregon	Yes it matters. On a RWD drag car you want to take weight off the nose of the car first.

Re: question on taking of weight [Re: tboomer] #1124652 12/01/11 02:17 AM 12/01/11 02:17 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 19,379 Las Vegas Al_Alguire I Live Here
Al_Alguire I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 19,379 Las Vegas	Just take it off! The way your car launches taking it off the rear may help things a lot more than some think. Just keep taking it away from EVERYWHERE you can. If you get to a point where bias is an issue you can always ad some ballast to make it happy. "I am not ashamed to confess I am ignorant of what I do not know." "It's never wrong to do the right thing"

Re: question on taking of weight [Re: Al_Alguire] #1124653 12/01/11 02:31 AM 12/01/11 02:31 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,591 Canton, Ohio S Sport440 master
Sport440 master S Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,591 Canton, Ohio	Quote: Just take it off! The way your car launches taking it off the rear may help things a lot more than some think. Just keep taking it away from EVERYWHERE you can. If you get to a point where bias is an issue you can always ad some ballast to make it happy. Yep! I agree!

Re: question on taking of weight [Re: Sport440] #1124654 12/01/11 04:41 AM 12/01/11 04:41 AM
Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 687 Ohio Chad Bittle mopar
Chad Bittle mopar Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 687 Ohio	It's gonna change the geometry of your chassis/suspension...how much weight it would have to be to make a difference I'm sure depends each person's setup. Last edited by Chad Bittle; 12/01/11 04:41 AM.

Re: question on taking of weight [Re: AndyF] #1124655 12/01/11 08:03 AM 12/01/11 08:03 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,013 Frostbitefalls MN (Rocky&Bullw... gregsdart I Live Here
gregsdart I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,013 Frostbitefalls MN (Rocky&Bullw...	Quote: Yes it matters. On a RWD drag car you want to take weight off the nose of the car first. Not always, Andy. At 9.0 to 8.88 ET to settle my wheelstander down I moved so much weight forward I thought it would never hook. I not only put on a glass trunk lid, but also went lexan on the rear window, and moved the battery from the trunk to in front of the radiator! Car settled right down, and all I had to do is raise the launch rpm. That was a move from 50/50 to 53 percent front 47 percent rear. Pretty radical to say the least. 60 fts picked up, because it doesn't unload the rear tires now when the wheelie bars hit. First three passes after the change, 1.263, 1.260, 1.259. The lesson I learned was that if you can transfer weight and have the torque to KEEP it transferred, the car will never know the difference! 6944974-Dartpics011-1.JPG (96 downloads) Last edited by gregsdart; 12/01/11 08:10 AM. 8..603 156 mph best, 2905 lbs 549, indy 572-13, alky

Re: question on taking of weight [Re: gregsdart] #1124656 12/01/11 09:50 AM 12/01/11 09:50 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,055 Salina ks 572_dup2 OP Back On The Bumper!!
572_dup2 OP Back On The Bumper!! Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,055 Salina ks	Since i changed rear tires seems that traction is better on ify tracks. Got the big wheelies under control. If it dont like that much weight off the rear i could always add some. My car is just so heavy it hard to take off weight an still keep it looking like a car. Thanks for the advice an tips!! Shawn Jennings

Re: question on taking of weight [Re: 572_dup2] #1124657 12/01/11 12:07 PM 12/01/11 12:07 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 6,849 F fullmetaljacket master
fullmetaljacket master F Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 6,849	I just think weight management is an art form. I could be wrong when it comes to leaf sprung cars, but they tend to like door jam forward dieting. Your car can lose a few pounds for sure (I would suspect that you weigh 200-210 lbs) which means that your car comes in at 3280-3300 lbs and it can be done while still looking like a car, but it will get more creatively expensive as it narrows down to the small stuff and ounces which all add up at the end. I guess try the removal out back and make sure that it can be reversed. If I'm wrong, let me know for sure. I can take it on the chin.

Re: question on taking of weight [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1124658 12/01/11 12:45 PM 12/01/11 12:45 PM
Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,028 Trumbull,CT. J jim sciortino top fuel
jim sciortino top fuel J Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,028 Trumbull,CT.	My philosophy is simple. Make it as light as you can afford, then.......make it work. If you listen, every system on a car will tell you what it wants.

Re: question on taking of weight [Re: jim sciortino] #1124659 12/01/11 06:11 PM 12/01/11 06:11 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,055 Salina ks 572_dup2 OP Back On The Bumper!!
572_dup2 OP Back On The Bumper!! Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,055 Salina ks	Soak an wet with my pockets full I'm $1.70 Shawn Jennings

Re: question on taking of weight [Re: 572_dup2] #1124660 12/01/11 06:27 PM 12/01/11 06:27 PM
Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,028 Trumbull,CT. J jim sciortino top fuel
jim sciortino top fuel J Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,028 Trumbull,CT.	Quote: Soak an wet with my pockets full I'm $1.70 That's not enough to make a car very light.

Re: question on taking of weight [Re: ] #1124661 12/01/11 09:18 PM 12/01/11 09:18 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 3,101 cincinnati ohio M mcat4321 master
mcat4321 master M Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 3,101 cincinnati ohio	Quote: 100 LBS. is a .1 off ET. old wives tale hardly ever means a tenth

Re: question on taking of weight [Re: mcat4321] #1124662 12/01/11 09:35 PM 12/01/11 09:35 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,055 Salina ks 572_dup2 OP Back On The Bumper!!
572_dup2 OP Back On The Bumper!! Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,055 Salina ks	If its worth .01 im happy. Maybe it takes 7hp to carry that 50lbs well thats 7hp less i gotta make. Shawn Jennings

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