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I have owned this car for 18 years ('71 Challenger). The dash pad was changed before I got the car. I"ve made several changes to the car. Planning to redo the dash and realized Vin tag is missing.

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I have owned this car for 18 years ('71 Challenger). The dash pad was changed before I got the car. I"ve made several changes to the car. Planning to redo the dash and realized Vin tag is missing.

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it took 18 years to notice? really?

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I do have a title.Where can i get atag made

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i purchased a 71 GC barracuda with no vin tag or fender tag,before i paid any money i had the florida highway patrol(they have a division for this)come out and locate a inconspicuos vin,as long as it matches the title your good to go.they sent me a new vin tag to screw into the door jam.

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On a Florida State format was it one that looks like an original?? I suspect "a new vin tag to screw into the door jam" is not one like an original that rivets to the dash?

By Federal regs it should be visible through the "glazing" or windshield, why would they make it for the door jam......sorry not on topic so disregard that

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Sounds like it's a PARTS car now...

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Nothing wrong with having a State issued VIN tag...with one you're not saying it's original. Build a Cobra kit car, stick a 427 in it put a State issued VIN on it and try to pass it off as an original....same deal and if someone does pay original money for it then

I have a shell of a '70 Challenger and it was going to be my son and my project and when it was finished it was going to have a State inspection and a STATE issued VIN and who cares.......now if someone is going to make an original VIN plate and without absolute, without a doubt, swear on a stack of bibles, checked out by law enforcement documentation and verification that it is and always was that car then have them make me and my son a '70 HEMI CHALLENGER VIN tag..no make that two VIN tags one number apart I'll find another shell but the best I can do for a motor is a 318 .........18 years, 4 posts and a screen name of Risky hmmmmmmmmmmmm let's do all we can to help him find someone to make him an original VIN tag


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For the VIN tag, go to your state and have a new one affixed. Anything else is illegal, no matter what others say.

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i purchased a 71 GC barracuda with no vin tag or fender tag,before i paid any money i had the florida highway patrol(they have a division for this)come out and locate a inconspicuos vin,as long as it matches the title your good to go.they sent me a new vin tag to screw into the door jam.

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On a Florida State format or one that looks like an original?? I suspect "a new vin tag to screw into the door jam" is not one like an original that rivets to the dash?

By Federal regs it should be visible through the "glazing" or windshield, why would they make it for the door jam......sorry not on topic so disregard that

MikeR

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no it was not a original dup.and they said i did not have to remove the ws and put it on the dash,they said as long as it was easily visable by an officer it would be fine and siggested the door jamb.but what da hey were allowed to carry guns and home brew hooch so go figer

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I have owned this car for 18 years ('71 Challenger). The dash pad was changed before I got the car. I"ve made several changes to the car. Planning to redo the dash and realized Vin tag is missing.

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If you have the title, and the cowl numbers are the same, contact www.datatags.com you may have a few hoops to jump thru to possibly obtaining a vin tag

DON"T post or PM your VIN on this forum or any other by those requesting it to "help" you

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I guess it's not a common issue but the reason the Fed's changed the regulation so it was visible from the outside was so they could check cars park and without the owner there to open the car (door). They could check out a suspicious car parked on the street or check the VIN without the driver getting out and what law inforcement officer wants to put there life on the line by bending down to check a door VIN with the driver there or behind him or her???? Odd that they suggest it being put in the door jam where it can't be seen from the outside

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And again, I really don't see any harm in getting a replacement OE VIN tag. If the numbers elsewhere on the body match your title, and there is no sign of the car being clipped, just get the replica tag. If that's what the car is, then that's what the car is. No reason to take a hit if you decide to sell down the road if there is no deception involved.

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And again, I really don't see any harm in getting a replacement OE VIN tag. If the numbers elsewhere on the body match your title, and there is no sign of the car being clipped, just get the replica tag. If that's what the car is, then that's what the car is. No reason to take a hit if you decide to sell down the road if there is no deception involved.

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What proof is there that the entire VIN on the title is LEGIT when the only numbers stamped on the body are the last 8 , was it a slant 6 or a hemi ...

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And again, I really don't see any harm in getting a replacement OE VIN tag. If the numbers elsewhere on the body match your title, and there is no sign of the car being clipped, just get the replica tag. If that's what the car is, then that's what the car is. No reason to take a hit if you decide to sell down the road if there is no deception involved.

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What proof is there that the entire VIN on the title is LEGIT when the only numbers stamped on the body are the last 8 , was it a slant 6 or a hemi ...

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Yeah John but I have a Hemi engine that was restamped....I mean was stamped with the entire VIN that it needs to make that original type VIN tag......does that make it okay It only takes one character in the VIN to change it from what it really is.

Maybe this is all on the up and up but maybe I would feel a little different if this was from a Moparts member with a little longer posting history......just me, I'm getting old and cranky

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What proof is there that the entire VIN on the title is LEGIT when the only numbers stamped on the body are the last 8 , was it a slant 6 or a hemi ...

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Um, the fender tag? (If he has one?)

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Um, the fender tag? (If he has one?)

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Yep, had one of those made or found it on another car or at the local swap meet..........lots of people have a collection of fender tags but oops no original VIN tag to go with it.....anyone know where I can have an original VIN tag made....oh sorry that question was already asked by the OP.

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I guess it's not a common issue but the reason the Fed's changed the regulation so it was visible from the outside was so they could check cars park and without the owner there to open the car (door). They could check out a suspicious car parked on the street or check the VIN without the driver getting out and what law inforcement officer wants to put there life on the line by bending down to check a door VIN with the driver there or behind him or her???? Odd that they suggest it being put in the door jam where it can't be seen from the outside

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Get the VIN number off your title and have a new one made.


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I had to get one made for a '71 Challenger years ago. In Ohio the car has to be taken to a Highway Patrol Inspection station where they check it out and stamp a new VIN tag and rivit it on.

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And again, I really don't see any harm in getting a replacement OE VIN tag. If the numbers elsewhere on the body match your title, and there is no sign of the car being clipped, just get the replica tag. If that's what the car is, then that's what the car is. No reason to take a hit if you decide to sell down the road if there is no deception involved.

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I have owned this car for 18 years ('71 Challenger). The dash pad was changed before I got the car. I"ve made several changes to the car. Planning to redo the dash and realized Vin tag is missing.

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I agree there's a LOT of fraud out there & greedy, dishonest people who don't think twice about rebodys. I got ripped off by a guy in NY who sold me a 70 Hemi block, crank & heads that were "pristine stock, original & matching", only to find it was an ex-alcohol, grout filled
race block w/ old, cracked heads. Only got compensation 2 yrs later when I read an article about him swapping the VIN on his N code cuda to an R code hemi & selling it for $80 g's. Luckily, he got busted for it & another car, too BECAUSE, a Moparts member caught it on ebay. But if the author to this post or anyone else is truly legit & lost his tag AND it can be documented that the car is truly what the VIN says, I can understand the need for a repop tag.

Because of my own folly, I lost the vin to my 69 RT/SE Charger & after putting $40K into the project, I had to sell it yrs later, to realize
either my old resto guy or myself, lost the VIN. I told the buyer I lost the tag & was totally up front. I called Data Tags & he made me contact the local Hwy Patrol to verify & inspect the car & write a letter on their letterhead, that its ok w/ them for restoration purposes only, if he makes a repop tag. I'm still looking for the original tag & believe I will find it, but since I had all the documentation the charger is truly what the #'s say & had 2 other "authorities" (hwy patrol mopar guy &a mopar restoration specialist verify its authenticity, I'm ok w/ the repop tag.
I want to protect our hobby & vintage Mopars as much as you all, but
I can see rare instances where it might be ok.







If you have the title, and the cowl numbers are the same, contact www.datatags.com you may have a few hoops to jump thru to possibly obtaining a vin tag

DON"T post or PM your VIN on this forum or any other by those requesting it to "help" you

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Fender tags are not considered legal ID. because they are located on frequently replace parts of the vehicle and many times discarded with the replaced item.

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Nonetheless, an original fendertag is considered by the hobby to be an important pce of documentation......regardless of whether or not the DMV considers it "legal ID"....same goes for broadcast sheets.


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And again, I really don't see any harm in getting a replacement OE VIN tag. If the numbers elsewhere on the body match your title, and there is no sign of the car being clipped, just get the replica tag. If that's what the car is, then that's what the car is. No reason to take a hit if you decide to sell down the road if there is no deception involved.

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I would assume the title verifies the engine used...and the title numbers(last 8) match the body. You can't expect to get a VIN tag if the numbers don't jive. I don't see a problem....

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But it won't tell you what model it is, depending on the engine installed anyway. Take for instance the pilot 71 'cuda convertible that was in the mags a few years ago out of canada , it was a 383 2bbl Barracuda that magically turned into a 383-4bbl 'cuda. Engine and body only have partial VIN , new fendertag , Vin and Title and wala ...

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