I have a new built 440 engine that has just been through overhaul. I have not given a lot of thought into the oil filter that I was going to use. I have a new Fram PH43 that I was going to use and a couple of buddies noticed it and acted horrified that I would use a Fram.

I have never heard of Fram being all that bad. Has something changed? I have always used Fram in the past with no problems.

Where is this coming from? What have I not heard?


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You can do search here, or look for bob is the oil guy.com

The HP filters may be okay, but the standard Frams are proven to be the bottom of the barrel in quality and performance.

Fram filters are crap--cardboard end caps, poor construction, minimal filter media.
Buy a Wix or a Napa Gold.

I would and do use Wix or Napa Gold (same as wix) filters. They are constructed better than a Fram. Fram glues the filtering media to a piece of cardboard. Kinda cheesy too me. Just cut open a fram and wix and the difference is obvious.

LOOK on the'net for some reports ? .. .... THERE are places that still say the Earth is flat ....

If Fram filters were that GARbage and they are responsible for motor failures .... FIRST - Fram would be sued into bankruptcy. SECOND - Where are the warnings in FSM's(etc) ..against using Fram products?

Down Doc!

PACman .. me thimks youz been STROKIN' something else ...

Fram oil filters are only good enough for Doc and his junk...eveybody else deserves higher quality

No nothing has changed; they are the same crappy filter they've always been.

They are cheaply built, that is not something that can be debated. Whether they can cause catastrophic problems is the subject of the usual

......all I can say is this: whether or not they are horrible filters, WHY risk a brand new motor to save $1.50??

THAT is what I can never understand, even if the naysayers (and pics) are wrong, why take the risk?


Dave

When I lived in Nashville I saw HUGE mountain of blowed up cummins motors that could not be disposed of because they were part of a lawsuit against Fram, the guy there said at least %90and (probably higher than that) of the blow up cummins had Fram fiters on them when they would show up for warranty reasons. I personally worked at Wal-mart as a teen and cut open a lot of oil filters when I was bored and the Fram filters were worse than no filter at all, pieces of the card-board ends would fall apart inside of them, sometimes you could shake them and pieces of the filter media or ends would just fall out. Wal-mart here stopped doing oil changes because they had to buy so many engines.

Favorite line: Auto Stores have the "Orange Wall of Death"

from a few taets submitted previously on this site, I also was dumbfounded about the badmouth of fram. The test results convinced Me that Napa or Wix are the way to go and that Fram has the best publicity commercials out there.

I use Napa filters on all bb and smallblock cars

Ran Fram way back when the slant six club of america was going & touted them. Haven't in a long time from long time reports on here. Reminds me of the time I saw something about going online and checking out customer complaints against Sears so one day I was bored & remembered that so I did & couldn't believe what I read, reams and reams of unbelieveable deceit/fraud/incompetence/rudeness. The Company from Hell. They almost got me once when I was in my early 20's they thought from my out of state lic plate that by the time my battery ran down from their (knowingly) failure to fix the alt that I would be in the next state. Should have seen the look on that mechanics face when he walked by and happened to see me in the mgrs office 2 days later

the 43 is the short one and the 8 (might be 8A) is the long version, same filter. use the 8 if it'll fit