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what do you think i might gain ?
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just put a customer/friends 68 roadrunner back together after it sheared the crank woodruff key and bent a bunch of valves
440 stroker,511 ci,10.3:1,eddy heads pocket ported by Dwayne Porter,TTI 2" headers 3" pipes,6 pack induction with jettable outer carbs
had a custom comp ft solid 247/251@050 , 549/556 gross lift with 1.5 rockers,114 lobe separation
running lean,nearly 14:1,it made only 406RWHP - auto 4200 stall
i recommended a cam swap while apart,Lunati Voodoo 251/259@050 , 566/586 gross.014 lash,110 lobe separation
plus jetted up the outer carbs.
what do you see for gains,i will have it on the chassis dyno this Friday afternoon.
Greg the owner is not into an all out power,is street driven
it has gone 11.44,did this at 114 plus change, best with mph in the 115-116
i have also thought of this cam for my engine but will probly go a little larger though it is good to try it out to see how it performs
certainly sounds the goods
thoughts
Tex
New best ET 10.259@129.65 .
New best MPH 130.32
Finally fitted a solid cam,
stepped it up a bit more
3690lbs through the mufflers
New World block 3780lbs 10.278@130.80 . Wowser 10.253@130.24 footbraking from 1500rpm
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Re: what do you think i might gain ?
[Re: tex013]
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10/25/11 06:22 PM
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IN THE 10 s somewhere,, weight of the car? 3700 #? guess , 10.40 124-5 mph? 
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Re: what do you think i might gain ?
[Re: deaks]
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10/25/11 07:40 PM
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Dennis - wow you are optimistic,i wish
Deaks - this was about what i thought,low 20's and hopefully in the teens.
may need some suspension work from this point
car weighs about 3855lbs with Greg in it
Tex
New best ET 10.259@129.65 .
New best MPH 130.32
Finally fitted a solid cam,
stepped it up a bit more
3690lbs through the mufflers
New World block 3780lbs 10.278@130.80 . Wowser 10.253@130.24 footbraking from 1500rpm
Power by Tex's Automotive
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Re: what do you think i might gain ?
[Re: tex013]
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10/25/11 07:40 PM
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just put a customer/friends 68 roadrunner back together after it sheared the crank woodruff key and bent a bunch of valves
440 stroker,511 ci,10.3:1,eddy heads pocket ported by Dwayne Porter,TTI 2" headers 3" pipes,6 pack induction with jettable outer carbs
had a custom comp ft solid 247/251@050 , 549/556 gross lift with 1.5 rockers,114 lobe separation
running lean,nearly 14:1,it made only 406RWHP - auto 4200 stall
i recommended a cam swap while apart,Lunati Voodoo 251/259@050 , 566/586 gross.014 lash,110 lobe separation
plus jetted up the outer carbs.
what do you see for gains,i will have it on the chassis dyno this Friday afternoon.
Greg the owner is not into an all out power,is street driven
it has gone 11.44,did this at 114 plus change, best with mph in the 115-116
i have also thought of this cam for my engine but will probly go a little larger though it is good to try it out to see how it performs
certainly sounds the goods
thoughts
Tex
If your talking the same cubes & just a cam change after fixing the engine or is this a new build?? Just a cam change & the fix from those 11.4s (running decent before) I'd have to say 11.0/11.teens @ 119-121.
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Re: what do you think i might gain ?
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10/25/11 07:59 PM
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yes just the cam,jetting and service the heads
Tex
New best ET 10.259@129.65 .
New best MPH 130.32
Finally fitted a solid cam,
stepped it up a bit more
3690lbs through the mufflers
New World block 3780lbs 10.278@130.80 . Wowser 10.253@130.24 footbraking from 1500rpm
Power by Tex's Automotive
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Re: what do you think i might gain ?
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10/25/11 09:49 PM
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thanks Cab,
that and supension are my only worries
though i thought with 3 needle/seats and 3 fuel bowls there might be a little lee way
they will all get woked through
Tex
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New best ET 10.259@129.65 .
New best MPH 130.32
Finally fitted a solid cam,
stepped it up a bit more
3690lbs through the mufflers
New World block 3780lbs 10.278@130.80 . Wowser 10.253@130.24 footbraking from 1500rpm
Power by Tex's Automotive
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Re: what do you think i might gain ?
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10/25/11 11:02 PM
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My guess would be 11.20's with just the cam change and jetting. Just curious as I dont know if I just missed it but what gear and converter are in that Roadrunner ? Ron
Tex thats not your Runner in that pic is it ?? I mean yours is green right or am I crazy ? Ron
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Re: what do you think i might gain ?
[Re: 383man]
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10/26/11 12:03 AM
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hey Ron, this is a factory A12 car - dana with 4.1 and a 4200 stall -WAY TOO SMALL  275/60R15 MT no it's not my satellite,your not crazy just fast i would like it to go as fast as mine Tex
New best ET 10.259@129.65 .
New best MPH 130.32
Finally fitted a solid cam,
stepped it up a bit more
3690lbs through the mufflers
New World block 3780lbs 10.278@130.80 . Wowser 10.253@130.24 footbraking from 1500rpm
Power by Tex's Automotive
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Re: what do you think i might gain ?
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10/26/11 12:19 AM
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hey Ron,
this is a factory A12 car - dana with 4.1 and a 4200 stall -WAY TOO SMALL
275/60R15 MT
no it's not my satellite,your not crazy just fast
i would like it to go as fast as mine
Tex
That is one very sweet Roadrunner.  But its not the car you are talking about is it ?? Cause I think you said a 68 Runner and thats a 69 I believe ? Ron
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Re: what do you think i might gain ?
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10/26/11 12:23 AM
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DUH- yes i am talking the blue 69 Runner
Tex
New best ET 10.259@129.65 .
New best MPH 130.32
Finally fitted a solid cam,
stepped it up a bit more
3690lbs through the mufflers
New World block 3780lbs 10.278@130.80 . Wowser 10.253@130.24 footbraking from 1500rpm
Power by Tex's Automotive
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Re: what do you think i might gain ?
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10/26/11 01:01 AM
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well i might be optimistic, maybe not, ? 511 ci motor is not small motor, and the cam not small either , along with heads, we run 11.0s in a car with allot smaller motor and smaller cam , pretty close on convert, in 67 coronet, 3800# w/410 gear after we get it dialed in it should be 10.70-10.80 car?  
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Re: what do you think i might gain ?
[Re: dennismopar73]
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10/26/11 01:11 AM
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hey Dennis, not complaining. the only other 511 i have helped with,same comp was in an E body.had more cam 260/260(?) with about 600 lift,1000 BG carb,bit more stall,295/65R15 MT's,full Caltrac setup,maybe 100lbs lighter.it went 10.66@124 with electric exhaust cutouts open shifting at 5800. won't know till dyno then the strip.got to be ready for Mopar Rumble plus Nostalgia Drags in November i am prepared to be suprised thanks for all the replies Tex
New best ET 10.259@129.65 .
New best MPH 130.32
Finally fitted a solid cam,
stepped it up a bit more
3690lbs through the mufflers
New World block 3780lbs 10.278@130.80 . Wowser 10.253@130.24 footbraking from 1500rpm
Power by Tex's Automotive
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Re: what do you think i might gain ?
[Re: Mr.Yuck]
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10/26/11 05:48 PM
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Mr Yuck,
for my part i always thought this car underperformed.it did have fuel issues which have been addressed though not to my satisfaction.the times were run with it quite lean,NO tacho or shift light.
jetting was 74/75 outers 62 inner,cruise is good so have gone up to 79 outer jetting.
squirter is i think stock have not checked springs but there is no bog.
yes it should blow the doors off my Satellite too
Ron i'll let Greg know
Tex
New best ET 10.259@129.65 .
New best MPH 130.32
Finally fitted a solid cam,
stepped it up a bit more
3690lbs through the mufflers
New World block 3780lbs 10.278@130.80 . Wowser 10.253@130.24 footbraking from 1500rpm
Power by Tex's Automotive
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Re: what do you think i might gain ?
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10/26/11 06:11 PM
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That's testament to how well tuned your satellite is, your motor would run 10.60's in an A body.
Mick
69 Dart GTS 440 mopar .590 cam, Edelbrock heads, 3200#
best et 6.45, 106.78, 10.14, 132.88 mph, 1.47 60ft
best 60ft 1.36
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Re: what do you think i might gain ?
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10/26/11 06:14 PM
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Wow I would have thought that combo would have run 11.20's out of the box. I'm at 11.38 @ 118.2 w/ less motor and less work. I'll be shooting for 11.20's this weekend after getting my axles in. What jetting are you running? I have 70's and 35 squirters (stock six pack) using purple springs I get zero bog and this thing jumps right up to 6k. They only thing different is I'm running a small solid roller cam (580/588), but I'm also running tiny 1 3/4 headers, 3800 stall and 3.91's. I would have thought those extra cubes would get it done w/o much more cam?????
You have stage VI heads. lol! Not Eddy's Gotta love the stage VI's
yes but doesn't he had D.Porter ported e-heads? I'd think they'd flow pretty good. I think there is more in the car. What is he shifting at? what's the 60foot. Seems like his MPH should be higher. I mean the car runs good but I'd think it should be an easy 11.20 ride.
Tex try some more jet in the center and bump the squirters. Car looks great and has a bunch of air under it.
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Re: what do you think i might gain ?
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Wow I would have thought that combo would have run 11.20's out of the box. I'm at 11.38 @ 118.2 w/ less motor and less work. I'll be shooting for 11.20's this weekend after getting my axles in. What jetting are you running? I have 70's and 35 squirters (stock six pack) using purple springs I get zero bog and this thing jumps right up to 6k. They only thing different is I'm running a small solid roller cam (580/588), but I'm also running tiny 1 3/4 headers, 3800 stall and 3.91's. I would have thought those extra cubes would get it done w/o much more cam?????
You have stage VI heads. lol! Not Eddy's Gotta love the stage VI's
yes but doesn't he had D.Porter ported e-heads? I'd think they'd flow pretty good. I think there is more in the car. What is he shifting at? what's the 60foot. Seems like his MPH should be higher. I mean the car runs good but I'd think it should be an easy 11.20 ride.
Tex try some more jet in the center and bump the squirters. Car looks great and has a bunch of air under it.
Stage 6s have a lot more flow potential than eddys.....no? 
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I believe, Stage 6 heads have a better exhaust port than eddy's.
Mick
69 Dart GTS 440 mopar .590 cam, Edelbrock heads, 3200#
best et 6.45, 106.78, 10.14, 132.88 mph, 1.47 60ft
best 60ft 1.36
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Re: what do you think i might gain ?
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Stage 6s have a lot more flow potential than eddys.....no no idea there, I do know that I'm giving up a 1/4" inch on the headers and 65 cubic inches. That car will run 10's once they figure it out...keep tweaking it.
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Re: what do you think i might gain ?
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11/01/11 06:07 PM
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time for an update,sorry for the delay the alternator dumped its guts on Thursday night. ran the car yesterday afternoon but was a little suprised with how much jetting it wanted. prior to running i had #79 outer,#62 centre at cruise and even with a full pull only on the centre carb the #62 was good AFR with outer's it was lean still,went to #85 and it picked up but needed more.ran out of time and will go to #89.played with timing,liked its 25 initial to give about 38 total. it has a K&N filter but made 4-5 extra HP with the cleaner off. is there a taller,4" K&N,or do you just stack 2 of them ? we did check vacuum from under the centre carb,did not go positive with the 3 carbs operating. it does seem a little softer on secondary opening with the extra jetting. i have not had much to do with tri carbs before,do you see anything wrong with my direction. Cab,fuel system has a Carter 90 electric pump at rear and Carter hi perf mechanical pump.8psi at idle,6 1/2 psi under full load.not my choice but will have to see how it goes on the strip. car certainly gets up and boogies when you open it up on the street. HP gain is in line with what i aimed for,another 5hp would be nice Ron,Greg says thanks for the comment pics are TOO big so here is some links http://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af301/texsautomotive/SANY00923.jpghttp://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af301/texsautomotive/SANY00912.jpgdyno sheet - http://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af301/texsautomotive/IMG-1.jpgTex
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That is really nice. 
