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Re: 440 horsepower limits [Re: bcrproducts] #1096681
10/20/11 10:38 AM
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It was $799 for the caps and Girdle just to clarify.




That is what they were when I bought them.
The price included all the hardware. ARP main stud kit, cap to girdle stud kit, girdle oil pan rail stud kit. When I say "kit" it includes all the washers and nuts too. The oil pan rail has two nuts, one to hold the girdle to the block and a set to hold the oil pan to the girdle.

Pic of them on the 400 block (one stud out on the #2 main as I was fitting the oil pickup at the time):




I am working on a replacement machinist to take this over again as the last machine shop failed me. I will be a little more proactive on my next choice.
Greg





thank you Greg and please do it soon...I'll be needing a set in a few months or less..

Jeff

Re: 440 horsepower limits [Re: smokinwoody] #1096682
10/20/11 11:33 AM
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I don't agree with much in this post.
All mine get are main studs and hardblock.

Re: 440 horsepower limits [Re: FastmOp] #1096683
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I have heard from a lot of peeps here who have broke caps on the low deck. The bcr caps and girdle are very nice looking pieces, but that price would push me a lot closer to just getting an aftermarket block, which is out of my price range. I am honestly just trying to figure out the best bang for buck. Honestly I could probably meet my goals with a 451, but then I feel the victor max wedge ports are a little large for a nice power curve with that size of motor. I do want a 6500 power peak with a 451 or 470. But then the stroker kit prices are tempting for the 440s but id still rather build a low deck.

Re: 440 horsepower limits [Re: viperblue72] #1096684
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I have heard from a lot of peeps here who have broke caps on the low deck. The bcr caps and girdle are very nice looking pieces, but that price would push me a lot closer to just getting an aftermarket block, which is out of my price range. I am honestly just trying to figure out the best bang for buck. Honestly I could probably meet my goals with a 451, but then I feel the victor max wedge ports are a little large for a nice power curve with that size of motor. I do want a 6500 power peak with a 451 or 470. But then the stroker kit prices are tempting for the 440s but id still rather build a low deck.





if you dont have the 3 grand or so for an aftermarket block...$800 to beef up the stock block isnt so bad...

like fastmOp says..he never had a problem with stock caps and block...mine has no problems..but..after seeing the BCR setup, I want one for the power levels I make...just added comfort...

Re: 440 horsepower limits [Re: smokinwoody] #1096685
10/20/11 01:29 PM
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The "total" cost of the caps/girdle upgrade should include the machine work to install them. The BCR Kit was $799, and machine work was another $400.
Price wise the BCR "kit" was a better deal than if you price out the girdle, caps and hardware separate from other vendors.
The total cost will get you about 1/3 to 1/2 the way into the cost of an aftermarket block?

Re: 440 horsepower limits [Re: 451Mopar] #1096686
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I agree that the bcr kit is a thing of beauty.
I just decided to go with the low deck 400 and offset grind a 440 crank.
I'm gonna go 3.9 stroke and 6.7rod/1.32piston.
I may try out those new super stealths or run a victor head ootb.

Re: 440 horsepower limits [Re: viperblue72] #1096687
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My current stock 77 block is .055 over and has a 440 source 4.5 stroke crank.
My other motor is a 69 block .055 over with a callies 4.15 stroke.

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