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dragon slayer crankshafts usa or china #1094548
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i want to no if its realy 100% made in the usa and why it is so much cheaper than others i got a price of 1300$ for a 4 inch stroke sb crank dose any body have any experience good or bad


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Re: dragon slayer crankshafts usa or china [Re: WHITEDART] #1094549
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i want to no if its realy 100% made in the usa and why it is so much cheaper than others i got a price of 1300$ for a 4 inch stroke sb crank dose any body have any experience good or bad




Not sure where they are made anymore...but they definitely dont suck.

Re: dragon slayer crankshafts usa or china [Re: POS Dakota] #1094550
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i dont want to get a wong choice for a great dill

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Re: dragon slayer crankshafts usa or china [Re: WHITEDART] #1094551
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I'm 99% sure the basic crank is NOT a USA-sourced part. However, I don't know if the final machining is done here or overseas. Regardless, they do have a good reputation.

Re: dragon slayer crankshafts usa or china [Re: WHITEDART] #1094552
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Re: dragon slayer crankshafts usa or china [Re: Raymond] #1094553
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I haven't talked to them about it ,but I remember when they first came out they made a big deal about it being made in the USA. Their web site still says made in USA on the dragon slayer series.I guess a quick phone call will get you the answer you need. Callies are really good with their Tech line and always very helpful.

Re: dragon slayer crankshafts usa or china [Re: DAYTONA540] #1094554
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I have the 4" Dragonslayer and was told by Callies on the phone it is forged in Ohio and my crank has made in USA on it

Oh it is about 3 years old

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Re: dragon slayer crankshafts usa or china [Re: dusturbd340W5] #1094555
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over the years we've sold a lot of the dragonslayer cranks. i think there's always been some confusion as the where the forgings come from. i don't think they've ever used chinese forgings. the most important thing to know is that Callies and quality are one and the same. we've never had a complaint on any of their products we've sold.
we've getting ready to do a super sale on all of the callies and callies/compstar products.


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Re: dragon slayer crankshafts usa or china [Re: Performance Only] #1094556
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that would be a big deal because i am doing a 100% usa build not to take any thing for all the other stuff


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Re: dragon slayer crankshafts usa or china [Re: Performance Only] #1094557
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over the years we've sold a lot of the dragonslayer cranks. i think there's always been some confusion as the where the forgings come from. i don't think they've ever used chinese forgings. the most important thing to know is that Callies and quality are one and the same. we've never had a complaint on any of their products we've sold.
we've getting ready to do a super sale on all of the callies and callies/compstar products.




I sure wish they would tool up the Compstar Cranks for us Mopar guys.....They're only producing the 3rd gen hemi stuff last I knew....

The Compstar stuff is sweet even if the forgings are coming from China

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Re: dragon slayer crankshafts usa or china [Re: rickstershemi] #1094558
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i sure wish china would go out of business so all us americans were working making american parts parts we all can aford i guess that wont happen as long as we keep going down this path


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Re: dragon slayer crankshafts usa or china [Re: WHITEDART] #1094559
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i sure wish china would go out of business so all us americans were working making american parts parts we all can aford i guess that wont happen as long as we keep going down this path




the only way that will happen is if americans will go back t oworking for 5 dollars a week so the CEO's can still bring home their 25 million dollar salaries ...

Re: dragon slayer crankshafts usa or china [Re: Performance Only] #1094560
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over the years we've sold a lot of the dragonslayer cranks. i think there's always been some confusion as the where the forgings come from. i don't think they've ever used chinese forgings. the most important thing to know is that Callies and quality are one and the same. we've never had a complaint on any of their products we've sold.
we've getting ready to do a super sale on all of the callies and callies/compstar product


make sure you let me know when your doing the sale got to get one

Re: dragon slayer crankshafts usa or china [Re: WHITEDART] #1094561
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that would be a big deal because i am doing a 100% usa build not to take any thing for all the other stuff




Let us know how that goes for you.

Last I heard most bearings aren't American made any more either.

Re: dragon slayer crankshafts usa or china [Re: DakFink] #1094562
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that would be a big deal because i am doing a 100% usa build not to take any thing for all the other stuff




Let us know how that goes for you.

Last I heard most bearings aren't American made any more either.




can you tell us which brands aren't and where they're made?


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Re: dragon slayer crankshafts usa or china [Re: WHITEDART] #1094563
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Call and ask them, I did. They told me THAT crank is forged and machined here.
Either they are really honest or THAT crank is always made here.

Pleasant people to deal with in any case.


Yeah, it's got a smallblock.
Re: dragon slayer crankshafts usa or china [Re: Performance Only] #1094564
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This is an issue I bump against too..........I will buy American at every opportunity.
I have no problem with a manufacturer following their business and opening over seas branches , factories and the like.
But using off shore labor to increase profits , eliminate quality and destroy American manufacturing capabilities is where I draw the line.
Autolite spark plugs were my last " I'll never give them another dime of mine " product.
Their market is here , and I have to assume that they have had years of profitability and success.
So why move manufacturing to China ?
Their excellence in metallurgy ?
Or their 40.00 a week labor costs ?
There are some decent parts made over there.
Not many.
But I can't get past my principals.
Some will argue that this is the way things are , so get used to it.
I would argue that a change for the worse is worth re-considering.
Callies is a pretty good value for what you get in their Dragonslayer line.
And worth the extra coins in my opinion.

Re: dragon slayer crankshafts usa or china [Re: tubtar] #1094565
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When we bought our Dragonslayer I was told that it, the Magnum and the XL were the all the same forging. Just more machine work went in to each one to lighten them. I had the understanding that we could send them our Dragonslayer and they would make a magnum or an XL out of it.......Bob P.

Re: dragon slayer crankshafts usa or china [Re: BradH] #1094566
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I'm 99% sure the basic crank is NOT a USA-sourced part...



And am now 99% sure I could be wrong about my original statement above.

I think I was confusing Dragon Slayer cranks w/ some other product.

Re: dragon slayer crankshafts usa or china [Re: BradH] #1094567
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i just do not want to pay the full price for china imposter i did not no that about those spark pugs i just dont get it


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Re: dragon slayer crankshafts usa or china [Re: WHITEDART] #1094568
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All may not be lost gentleman as wages are increasing in China it's not as affordable for some manufacturing to pay the higher wages plus the expense of shipping. There are economists predicting that as many as 3 million manufacturing jobs could be returning to the US within next few years.

It's what this country needs to grow our economy again.


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that would be a big deal because i am doing a 100% usa build not to take any thing for all the other stuff




hope you're not using a stock 360 block that's newer than ~1979, as they've been cast in mexico since then...


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Re: dragon slayer crankshafts usa or china [Re: patrick] #1094572
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nope ritter XR1 block made in the USA


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I use to have a 4" Dragonslayer and was told by Callies on the phone it is forged in Ohio and my crank has made in USA on it

Oh it is about 3 years old




Fixed it for you....

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I use to have a 4" Dragonslayer and was told by Callies on the phone it is forged in Ohio and my crank has made in USA on it

Oh it is about 3 years old




Fixed it for you....




Motor is still in my garage so I still have it LOL


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All may not be lost gentleman as wages are increasing in China it's not as affordable for some manufacturing to pay the higher wages plus the expense of shipping. There are economists predicting that as many as 3 million manufacturing jobs could be returning to the US within next few years.

It's what this country needs to grow our economy again.



This is actually true to a point. I was in China earlier this year and they were posting this on their own news about rising wages and lack of skilled labor. Only problem is they were talking about the manufacturing moving to Vietnam and Bangladesh rather than back here.


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All may not be lost gentleman as wages are increasing in China it's not as affordable for some manufacturing to pay the higher wages plus the expense of shipping. There are economists predicting that as many as 3 million manufacturing jobs could be returning to the US within next few years.

It's what this country needs to grow our economy again.



This is actually true to a point. I was in China earlier this year and they were posting this on their own news about rising wages and lack of skilled labor. Only problem is they were talking about the manufacturing moving to Vietnam and Bangladesh rather than back here.




Well the way I see it is that China has cheap labour but are paying through the nose for energy.
Soooo we have all the energy we can shake a stick at. Lower the price of gas to around 50 cents a litre or 2.00 a gallon and make everyone else outside of north america pay premium price for OUR crude.
while your at it you could also lower the price of electricity.

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how about just a fair playin field 5 bucks a day vs 200 a day not fair... heavy tax on them and tax breaks for the shops here just off set the price with import tax


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how about just a fair playin field 5 bucks a day vs 200 a day not fair... heavy tax on them and tax breaks for the shops here just off set the price with import tax




Close off North America and take care of ourselves.
But who am I kidding, Big Corporations wont alow it.

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How come when I look at their website, the Dragonslayer is not listed for Mopar?


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