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Transmission removal
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10/08/11 10:42 PM
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Found out today that I have to pull the automatic transmission from my 72 Cuda. I thought that I would put it up on 4 ramps and start looking for some kind of jack, not sure what Harbor Freight has. I have considered trying to rig a cradle for the floor jack but haven't gone through it a lot in my head.
Any tips would be a help.
Thanks
1972 Cuda 340 4 speed, 2001 Ram CTD 4x4 6 speed, 1970 Duster 408 4 speed, 1996 Ram 5.9 2x4 auto, 1965 Coronet 500
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Re: Transmission removal
[Re: cdstl]
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10/09/11 01:04 AM
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As already said jack it up as far as you can get it, conventional drive on ramps aren't high enough, usually  I have swap many trans and converter and the 727 can be slid out from under the car if your careful by sliding the bellhousing out behind the front tires with the front tires turned all the way out of the way, better yet remove them  If this is your first time, take your time and be careful, I know a racer who lost one eye by having a transmission slide off of a floor jack and put his eye out  My wife bought me a trans jack from Sears many years ago so she wouldn't have to come out at night and run the floor jack when I was racing a lot, all maintenance occurred after dinner and before midnight  She like to go to bed early and I liked to race, we never  had any of those  She is still with me(47 yrs and going strong) so it must be okay 
Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)
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Re: Transmission removal
[Re: cdstl]
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10/09/11 01:57 AM
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I saw the Harbor Freight jacks and they are pretty reasonably priced. I will probably do something like that. I am also going to look into renting one. All that I really need to do is change the flexplate. I do have two high school aged boys to help, especially if they want to drive this thing eventually.
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1972 Cuda 340 4 speed, 2001 Ram CTD 4x4 6 speed, 1970 Duster 408 4 speed, 1996 Ram 5.9 2x4 auto, 1965 Coronet 500
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Re: Transmission removal
[Re: cdstl]
#1090853
10/09/11 01:58 AM
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Oh and by the way. Which tranny pan gasket do you guys like better. Cork or Rubber.
1972 Cuda 340 4 speed, 2001 Ram CTD 4x4 6 speed, 1970 Duster 408 4 speed, 1996 Ram 5.9 2x4 auto, 1965 Coronet 500
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Re: Transmission removal
[Re: None2Slow]
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10/09/11 02:34 AM
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Harbor freight also sells transmission jacks. Its always nice to have the right tools for the job. Makes it easier, safer and if you use it more than once, it pays for itself in conveinece. If you dont want to buy 1, maybe a tool rental store can rent you 1. Not sure though
edit for link....
http://www.harborfreight.com/automotive-motorcycle/transmission-jacks.html
I have their 800lb trans jack and I have to admit I like it. It's been a good piece. Plus given it's capacity you can use it for other things too.
I got hit once so hard with a 46re, I farted.  I had no idea how heavy and awkward it is trying to get it out under a car on jackstands. I'm lucky I wasnt hurt. A trans jack makes a lot of sense to me now. Taking a trans out is a PITA as it is...
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Re: Transmission removal
[Re: cdstl]
#1090855
10/09/11 05:31 AM
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Oh and by the way. Which tranny pan gasket do you guys like better. Cork or Rubber.
The plastic looking re-usable one they use on the Trucks with the 48RE trans (and other 727 style pans?)
Before I got my lift, I would put the car up on Jack stands (the Harbor Freight 4-leg, 6-ton stands, under the rear axle and under the k-member.)
Then I had the Harbor freight trans jack to lower the trans down. With the converter in the trans you need to put the jack at the forward part of the trans pan for balance.
Usually I did not put the car at the maximum lift of the jack stands (because my floor jack didn't go that high), so after lowering the trans as far as it would go on the trans jack, I had to slide jack out from under the trans. A 2x4 or 4x4 block of wood under the bell housing or tail shaft should make it easy to support one end of the trans while lifting the other end by hand get the trans off the jack. Once the trans is on the floor, it should slide out with the bell housing going under the rear part of the front fender.
Two years ago I did this six times in a month, then when I got my tax refund, I took the plunge and bought a 4-post lift, and a 2-stage foot pump trans jack
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Re: Transmission removal
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#1090856
10/09/11 09:45 AM
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If all he's doing is changing the flexplate why remove the whole trans? When I put my flexplate in, I just supported the trans and removed all the bell housing bolts, dropped the drive shaft, removed the trans mount, and slid the trans back for clearance. Then I marked the alignment of the flexplate to the converter with a marker. Then lined up the offset boltholes on the old flexplate to the new flexplate and marked it, and lined the new flexplate up to the mark on the converter, rotating the converter by hand to be able to reach each bolt. Then slid the trans back forward and put it all back together. If you're working by yourself, then you dont have to worry about trying to drop a tranny without help. Worked for me.  roe
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Re: Transmission removal
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10/09/11 02:25 PM
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If you are a somewhat strong guy, or have a strong friend, and don't mind the Jim-Bob method, you can lie under the trans and have a buddy remove the final bolts and the weight is on you. Then just slide out from under it. My brother and I put a couple in that way years ago.
i would advise using a jack.what do you do ounce its on your chest? roll out from under it? 727 is not light lying on your back,with little room to spare to lift it off.but them again im 50 and prefer to do things safer.
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Re: Transmission removal
[Re: None2Slow]
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10/09/11 05:36 PM
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Harbor freight also sells transmission jacks. Its always nice to have the right tools for the job. Makes it easier, safer and if you use it more than once, it pays for itself in conveinece. If you dont want to buy 1, maybe a tool rental store can rent you 1. Not sure though
edit for link....
http://www.harborfreight.com/automotive-motorcycle/transmission-jacks.html
I use the one pictured on the bottom left.
I put my jack stands on 4" blocks of wood for extra clearance.
The trans literally slides out and down with zero effort.
I then use a wooden wedge to support the bell housing while I remove the jack,once removed I just slide the trans down the wedge to a piece of cardboard on the ground.
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Re: Transmission removal
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10/09/11 07:53 PM
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IF you on doing-it on-the-ground ... trans-jacks make it more of a PITA ...PLUS you have to get the car WAY UP higher.
First ....make sure you have good jacks stands and they are stable. Then uNless you are a small guy ... just hump-it up-and-down on your back putting it on your chest.
really? i would not trust jacks in the dirt.plus you would have to have the car up so high .anyway be safe.
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Re: Transmission removal
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10/09/11 08:00 PM
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IF you on doing-it on-the-ground ... trans-jacks make it more of a PITA ...PLUS you have to get the car WAY UP higher.
First ....make sure you have good jacks stands and they are stable. Then uNless you are a small guy ... just hump-it up-and-down on your back putting it on your chest.
really? i would not trust jacks in the dirt.plus you would have to have the car up so high .anyway be safe.
just build a 14 foot high garage with a lift and use a trans lift.ha ha.i wish i would have 20 years ago,would have paid for itself several times
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Re: Transmission removal
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#1090863
10/09/11 08:20 PM
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I used the harbor freight medium weight tranny jack to remove and repalce and A833 tranny. It worked well and certainly up to the job of doing a Torqueflight. I bought the 450 pound rated model #39178, mostly because it got the closest to the ground. As folks have indicated, the biggest problem is getting enough clearance to do this on the floor. At $50, it's reasonable for a 1 time use. http://www.harborfreight.com/450-lb-capacity-transmission-jack-39178.htmlAstrobuf
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Re: Transmission removal
[Re: cdstl]
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10/09/11 10:38 PM
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Lots of good suggestions. Because of work it looks like it will be a couple of weeks before I can get back to it. Just in time for the concrete floor to really cool off.
Thanks again,
Chuck
1972 Cuda 340 4 speed, 2001 Ram CTD 4x4 6 speed, 1970 Duster 408 4 speed, 1996 Ram 5.9 2x4 auto, 1965 Coronet 500
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Re: Transmission removal
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#1090865
10/09/11 10:44 PM
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IF you on doing-it on-the-ground ... trans-jacks make it more of a PITA ...PLUS you have to get the car WAY UP higher.
First ....make sure you have good jacks stands and they are stable. Then uNless you are a small guy ... just hump-it up-and-down on your back putting it on your chest.
really? i would not trust jacks in the dirt.plus you would have to have the car up so high .anyway be safe.
"GROUND" ... I should have said(and I meant) CONCRETE ... garage ....driveway ..
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