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Some more small block victor head info #1081330
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Good buddy of mine from here local is down in Indy this weekend and had a chance to talk to hughes and look at a protype victor head they have down there.

Guess they have a 2.150 intake valve, and 1.60 exhaust. He said it looks very similar on the exhaust port side to a W5 exhaust port. The intake runner is raised quite a bit. The Hughes guys said the head should be capable of flowing 350 cfm. Also said they will take a big block style shaft mount rocker system, and that the cost of these heads shouldnt be much higher than a standard small block Eddie head
My buddy was under the impression an indy intake MIGHT be what is used initially.
If most of this turns out to be the case, all i can say is wow
Supposed to be available next summer hopefully, we will see.

Sheesh, a head like that even setting on a flattop slugged pumpgas 340 with some camshaft would even make some serious steam


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Re: Some more small block victor head info [Re: B3422W5] #1081331
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Re: Some more small block victor head info [Re: B3422W5] #1081332
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I was told that they plan on showing ( releasing?) them at this years PRI show.


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Re: Some more small block victor head info [Re: CompWedgeEngines] #1081333
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All sounds good.... anyone got some pics

Re: Some more small block victor head info [Re: emarine01] #1081334
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Sounds really good, But I'm hoping they'll be saavy enough to also offer an alternate 'small valve' (2.02") version.....My bet is not everybody is gonna want to do a piston swap to run a new head....And to take a BOLT-ON off the table is really going to limit sales

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Re: Some more small block victor head info [Re: Streetwize] #1081335
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this may be a good reason to rethink my plans about going to a BB for some affordable power.


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Re: Some more small block victor head info [Re: Streetwize] #1081336
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There are several 2.02 heads out there now. Including the current Edelbrocks.

Sounds like they are filling the Gap between the Indy 360-1 at 2.100 intake and the W7,8,&9s which usually come with 2.180-2.20 Intake valves.

I'm just hoping that 350cfm is OOTB and not ported. If it is potential looks really good.

I've got a Lil Street engine I want to build, and 2.02 don't fit the bill but W-series stuff would be too much $$$$ for an N/A 59* street engine.

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I'm just hoping that 350cfm is OOTB and not ported. If it is potential looks really good.




ya think?

Re: Some more small block victor head info [Re: emarine01] #1081338
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All sounds good.... anyone got some pics




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this sounds exiting

Re: Some more small block victor head info [Re: 1Fast340] #1081339
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If you could get 310-320 real CFM at say .600 lift with a 2.02 and bolt on an existing shortblock it would still sell much better (volume wise) than a 350cfm big valver. Edelbrock wants to sell in Volume to the street enthusiast first and foremost, the racer is still important but that wouldn't be their ultimate goal, not for a low volume head (compared to a SBC or SBF). And also I'll bet 85% of the blocks out there are 318's.


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Re: Some more small block victor head info [Re: Streetwize] #1081340
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From what my buddy was told, the 350 is the heads potential, not an out of the box number.


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Re: Some more small block victor head info [Re: Streetwize] #1081341
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If you could get 310-320 real CFM at say .600 lift with a 2.02 and bolt on an existing shortblock it would still sell much better (volume wise) than a 350cfm big valver. Edelbrock wants to sell in Volume to the street enthusiast first and foremost, the racer is still important but that wouldn't be their ultimate goal, not for a low volume head (compared to a SBC or SBF). And also I'll bet 85% of the blocks out there are 318's.




i completely disagree. i think everyone would be trading in there performer heads for them if they really hit those numbers. you can rent the tool to put bigger valve reliefs in a piston


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Re: Some more small block victor head info [Re: B3422W5] #1081342
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If the head went 275cfm otb with a 2.02 & had 350 potential with out reinventing the wheel it would be a real winner

Re: Some more small block victor head info [Re: sixpackgut] #1081343
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310 320 ootb is what I have now after porting, and I doubt there is much if any left so a potential of 350 is godsend to a lot of us small time smallblock racers if they put them in a affordable price range.


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Re: Some more small block victor head info [Re: dartman366] #1081344
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i was at LS fest 2 weekends ago, i was looking at a square port LS head from AFR(i think) and the CNC'ed head they claimed goes 450cfm. i said BS but then i saw other heads there that were cheap chinese heads with flow numbers claiming 415. i still say BS but i really dont know. but if that is true, i dont see why a new cylinder head for a mopar with raised ports cant come close.

all i know is i feel bad for how much money the small block guys spend


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Re: Some more small block victor head info [Re: B3422W5] #1081345
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im glad to see those guys making an effort to help sb mopars guys out up for doing so.

Re: Some more small block victor head info [Re: fishy340] #1081346
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Using a well known Race Engine builder's basic formula.

a 4.040 bore needs a 2.100 Int. valve.

A 4.00 bore needs a 2.08 Int valve.

a 4.220 bore needs a 2.194 int Valve.

That being said I stand beside my thought that this would be a very welcomed head to the Mopar SB crowd. Especially if the cost is at or Below a set of Indy 360-1.

As for the 450cfm LS heads. They have been around for a bit.

http://www.mastmotorsports.com/2010/product-view.php?cat=Cylinder%20Heads%20-%20Bare&id=353

I know my W9-RPs aren't far behind those and there is also a few P7s out there that should be able to exceed that in the right hands.

Re: Some more small block victor head info [Re: DakFink] #1081347
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A 320-350 cfm head is going to push the power potential of stock SBM blocks with any kind of cam and compression in the build.

I think this new head sounds like a GREAT product! I just think a new block may be in order for a lot of people to really get the most out of the heads.

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I wish they would have been available when I got my Indybrocks would have been another choice.Although I have no complaints out of them.


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A 320-350 cfm head is going to push the power potential of stock SBM blocks with any kind of cam and compression in the build.

I think this new head sounds like a GREAT product! I just think a new block may be in order for a lot of people to really get the most out of the heads.




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