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deep oil pans on the street...dilemma #1079279 09/20/11 02:04 PM 09/20/11 02:04 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 13,357 Marion, South Carolina [><] an8sec70cuda OP I Live Here
an8sec70cuda OP I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 13,357 Marion, South Carolina [><]	I want to gain some ground clearance w/ my oil pan. I have a single line ext. Milodon oil system and currently using the 31015 Milodon pan. It's their normal deep sump w/ the single hole for the pickup. I'm tired of it leaking from repairs after hitting pavement. The 30931 pan is what I need, but I already have a 30930 pan in the shop that I could put on. The 30930 is the low profile pan but does not have the hole for the external pickup. Putting the hole in it isn't a problem, my concern is that the sides of the pan are not flat so the static pickup will be tilted. I don't think it would be an issue as long as the pickup is placed as low as possible in the sump, but I'd like to hear from someone who has done it. Anyone have any input/advice/horror stories? Thanks 6834607-wheeliepic.jpg (344 downloads) CHIP '70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60 '69 road runner, 440-6, 18 spline 4 speed, Dana 60 '71 Demon, 340, low gear 904, 8.75 '73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75 '90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt '06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax

Re: deep oil pans on the street...dilemma [Re: an8sec70cuda] #1079280 09/20/11 02:12 PM 09/20/11 02:12 PM
Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 528 Oak Grove, MN lowflyingdart mopar
lowflyingdart mopar Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 528 Oak Grove, MN	Every time I have seen this done with a 30930, the pick up is in the back of the pan. On the flat side not the angled side. "I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work." Thomas A. Edison

Re: deep oil pans on the street...dilemma [Re: lowflyingdart] #1079281 09/20/11 02:16 PM 09/20/11 02:16 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,127 Bend,OR USA C Cab_Burge I Win
Cab_Burge I Win C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,127 Bend,OR USA	Quote: Every time I have seen this done with a 30930, the pick up is in the back of the pan. On the flat side not the angled side. Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)

Re: deep oil pans on the street...dilemma [Re: an8sec70cuda] #1079282 09/20/11 02:19 PM 09/20/11 02:19 PM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 12,383 Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY Dragula I Live Here
Dragula I Live Here Joined: May 2004 Posts: 12,383 Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY	Quote: I want to gain some ground clearance w/ my oil pan. I have a single line ext. Milodon oil system and currently using the 31015 Milodon pan. It's their normal deep sump w/ the single hole for the pickup. I'm tired of it leaking from repairs after hitting pavement. The 30931 pan is what I need, but I already have a 30930 pan in the shop that I could put on. The 30930 is the low profile pan but does not have the hole for the external pickup. Putting the hole in it isn't a problem, my concern is that the sides of the pan are not flat so the static pickup will be tilted. I don't think it would be an issue as long as the pickup is placed as low as possible in the sump, but I'd like to hear from someone who has done it. Anyone have any input/advice/horror stories? Thanks Had the same issue for years. Wiped out a number of pans, finally went custom. There are a couple of places out there, get one made to your specs, and I think you won't look back...Just don't use a Charlies! '70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9) '66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage '71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk

Re: deep oil pans on the street...dilemma [Re: an8sec70cuda] #1079283 09/20/11 02:25 PM 09/20/11 02:25 PM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 2,497 PA moparacer top fuel
moparacer top fuel Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 2,497 PA	Yep I have a horror story....I ran the 31010 for 3 years with no problems. I just put a 30930 on mine last week to solve my pan clearance problems and after 2 and a half passes spun #6 rod bearing...Evidently moving a lot more oil to the top then I ever imagined and it uncovered the pickup on launch I think. The pickups for the 30930 pan are slighly further froward and that coupled with the fact that the bottom of the pan is wider which lowered my oil level even further must have created the situation which almost cost me the engine... 67 Barracuda street/bracket car 11.27-119 68 Dart 502 BB 8.70s-152 414 cid SB Dragster 7.65-174

Re: deep oil pans on the street...dilemma [Re: Dragula] #1079284 09/20/11 02:36 PM 09/20/11 02:36 PM
Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 249 Sonora, CA 68X426 enthusiast
68X426 enthusiast Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 249 Sonora, CA	Quote: ...Just don't use a Charlies! Why not? The 12 Scariest Words in the English Language: We are here from the Government and we want to help you. 1968 Plymouth Road Runner, Hemi and much more 1968 Dodge Charger, 318 and not much else 1958 Dodge Pick Up, 383 and loud 1966 Dodge Van, Slant 6 and cool

Re: deep oil pans on the street...dilemma [Re: an8sec70cuda] #1079285 09/20/11 03:03 PM 09/20/11 03:03 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 15,439 Val-haul-ass... eventually B BradH Taking time off to work on my car
BradH Taking time off to work on my car B Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 15,439 Val-haul-ass... eventually	Even the 30930 is 7" deep and still a good candidate to get by a speed bump in a parking lot. That's the only reason why I haven't considered running one, even though I'd really like a bigger & deeper pan than the "Street Hemi" 6-qt style.

Re: deep oil pans on the street...dilemma [Re: 68X426] #1079286 09/20/11 03:08 PM 09/20/11 03:08 PM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 10,542 BROOK PARK, OH WILD BILL Senior Member of the Junior Dragster Club
WILD BILL Senior Member of the Junior Dragster Club Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 10,542 BROOK PARK, OH	Quote: Quote: ...Just don't use a Charlies! Why not?

Re: deep oil pans on the street...dilemma [Re: BradH] #1079287 09/20/11 03:25 PM 09/20/11 03:25 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 13,357 Marion, South Carolina [><] an8sec70cuda OP I Live Here
an8sec70cuda OP I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 13,357 Marion, South Carolina [><]	Quote: Even the 30930 is 7" deep and still a good candidate to get by a speed bump in a parking lot. That's the only reason why I haven't considered running one, even though I'd really like a bigger & deeper pan than the "Street Hemi" 6-qt style. I agree, but I'll take that 3/4" even though it isn't much. Pretty much my only option unless I want to go to a pan like you're using...which I don't think would be a good idea on my motor. CHIP '70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60 '69 road runner, 440-6, 18 spline 4 speed, Dana 60 '71 Demon, 340, low gear 904, 8.75 '73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75 '90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt '06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax

Re: deep oil pans on the street...dilemma [Re: an8sec70cuda] #1079288 09/20/11 05:25 PM 09/20/11 05:25 PM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,495 Oregon City, OR Baxter61 top fuel
Baxter61 top fuel Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,495 Oregon City, OR	Quote: I agree, but I'll take that 3/4" even though it isn't much. said that before

Re: deep oil pans on the street...dilemma [Re: Baxter61] #1079289 09/20/11 06:31 PM 09/20/11 06:31 PM
Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 5,618 long island NY A Ari440 master
Ari440 master A Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 5,618 long island NY	1.39 9.85 - 137 mph

Re: deep oil pans on the street...dilemma [Re: an8sec70cuda] #1079290 09/20/11 08:41 PM 09/20/11 08:41 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,009 Covington Georgia RV2 master
RV2 master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,009 Covington Georgia	I'm having the same concern's with street driving and this pan, I bought the 440 source 7 quart pan which has a flat side to it so I plan to install my external oiling system on it. 6835105-deeppan2.jpg (497 downloads)

Re: deep oil pans on the street...dilemma [Re: RV2] #1079291 09/20/11 08:43 PM 09/20/11 08:43 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,009 Covington Georgia RV2 master
RV2 master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,009 Covington Georgia	Another shot 6835116-deeppan.jpg (730 downloads)

Re: deep oil pans on the street...dilemma [Re: RV2] #1079292 09/20/11 09:34 PM 09/20/11 09:34 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,225 Charleston S sixpackgut Drag Week Mod Champion
sixpackgut Drag Week Mod Champion S Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,225 Charleston	adding an inch or 2 to a street hemi pan would be ideal Gen 3 power 6.22@110, 9.85@135 Follow @g3hemiswap on instagram performance only racing, CRT, ultimate converter, superior design concepts, ThumperCarbs

Re: deep oil pans on the street...dilemma [Re: sixpackgut] #1079293 09/20/11 09:56 PM 09/20/11 09:56 PM
Joined: May 2009 Posts: 511 Temperance, MI 6 68 HEMI GTS mopar
68 HEMI GTS mopar 6 Joined: May 2009 Posts: 511 Temperance, MI	i cut the side out of this pan and added a thicker plate so the pickup would mount straight. 68 Dart GTS "HEMI" 10.30 @ 131 pump gas street car 3780# 69 Roadrunner 511 six pack 10.92 drive to track street car

Re: deep oil pans on the street...dilemma [Re: 68X426] #1079294 09/21/11 12:52 PM 09/21/11 12:52 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 15,439 Val-haul-ass... eventually B BradH Taking time off to work on my car
BradH Taking time off to work on my car B Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 15,439 Val-haul-ass... eventually	Quote: Quote: ...Just don't use a Charlies! Why not? Curious here, too. I thought Charlie's stuff was highly rated.

Re: deep oil pans on the street...dilemma [Re: BradH] #1079295 09/21/11 12:56 PM 09/21/11 12:56 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,127 Bend,OR USA C Cab_Burge I Win
Cab_Burge I Win C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,127 Bend,OR USA	Quote: Quote: Quote: ...Just don't use a Charlies! Why not? Curious here, too. I thought Charlie's stuff was highly rated. Maybe that poster is a naysayer with no personel experiences What sya you naysayer Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)

Re: deep oil pans on the street...dilemma [Re: Cab_Burge] #1079296 09/21/11 02:34 PM 09/21/11 02:34 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,065 Niles , Ohio T therocks oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah.
therocks oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah. T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,065 Niles , Ohio	Ive run a 8 qt Morosr pan on the 65 for probally 12 years.Never any problems.Ohio roads are terrible.Its never come close to hitting.Rocky Chrysler Firepower

Re: deep oil pans on the street...dilemma [Re: therocks] #1079297 09/21/11 04:02 PM 09/21/11 04:02 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,021 MN J JERICOGTX I Live Here
JERICOGTX I Live Here J Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,021 MN	Milodon makes a low profile pan not with the hole, and a flat side so the pickup screws in flat. My buddy has had one for a few years. Not sure of the part #, but I know you can buy them. Also Frieburger has a different pan on his HEMI Super Bee that has even more clearence. Jeff

Re: deep oil pans on the street...dilemma [Re: JERICOGTX] #1079298 09/21/11 05:01 PM 09/21/11 05:01 PM
Joined: May 2009 Posts: 831 Missouri G galen super stock
galen super stock G Joined: May 2009 Posts: 831 Missouri	I have two Charlies pans, belvedere has one more quart capacity and 1 1/2" more ground clearance than the milodon. He built another custom to my deminsions for the boat. No leaks and love them both.

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