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Re: SB Oil Pump. Anyone ever done this?
[Re: Leon441]
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08/26/11 10:13 AM
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a dual pick up works, I used one back in about 1988 or so  , but you need to route both tubes to one pick up and control oil with a good pan. If its needed is a different story...
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Re: SB Oil Pump. Anyone ever done this?
[Re: mafo]
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08/26/11 10:19 AM
08/26/11 10:19 AM
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a dual pick up works, I used one back in about 1988 or so , but you need to route both tubes to one pick up and control oil with a good pan.
If its needed is a different story...
What your saying is you had 1 pick up and 2 supply lines
basically like what was shown in the attachment and
yes that single pick up is fine
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Re: SB Oil Pump. Anyone ever done this?
[Re: Racebuddy]
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08/26/11 10:45 AM
08/26/11 10:45 AM
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Oh well thanks for your blessing Mr P Body, now u can hang with us cool kids.
I'm not giving you any blessing and I prefer not to
hang with you .... and I really doubt your cool...
do what ever you want and when it blows up maybe
you will look else where next time
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Re: SB Oil Pump. Anyone ever done this?
[Re: Leon441]
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08/26/11 10:55 AM
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thanks for the post Leon. i am going to modify the pan or go to a different pan all together, which has been my plan. i am real limited to the pan design because of the chassis of the Rambler with this chrylser motor in in. Its got to be a truck pan. I had the pump cap and pick up made. The strainer is exact dimension of a milodon. Not even sure yet how my two pickup pump fits into the pan or if it will. If it doesn't then i will run the 2 line feed into one pick up. I like that idea pretty good too. My original plan was to block off the stock pick up orifice. Changing cranks, putting the cast Eagle in it. It only costs $240 and they carry better oil pressure than stock cranks. 
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Re: SB Oil Pump. Anyone ever done this?
[Re: Racebuddy]
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08/26/11 12:26 PM
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thanks for the post Leon.
i am going to modify the pan or go to a different pan all together, which has been my plan.
i am real limited to the pan design because of the chassis of the Rambler with this chrylser motor in in. Its got to be a truck pan.
I had the pump cap and pick up made. The strainer is exact dimension of a milodon. Not even sure yet how my two pickup pump fits into the pan or if it will. If it doesn't then i will run the 2 line feed into one pick up. I like that idea pretty good too. My original plan was to block off the stock pick up orifice.
Changing cranks, putting the cast Eagle in it. It only costs $240 and they carry better oil pressure than stock cranks.
Isn't that like building kitchen cabinets without measuring the kitchen? Good luck with the Eagle cast crank, when it breaks don't blame whatever oil pickup you have.
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Re: SB Oil Pump. Anyone ever done this?
[Re: Devilbrad]
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08/26/11 12:36 PM
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thanks for the post Leon.
i am going to modify the pan or go to a different pan all together, which has been my plan.
i am real limited to the pan design because of the chassis of the Rambler with this chrylser motor in in. Its got to be a truck pan.
I had the pump cap and pick up made. The strainer is exact dimension of a milodon. Not even sure yet how my two pickup pump fits into the pan or if it will. If it doesn't then i will run the 2 line feed into one pick up. I like that idea pretty good too. My original plan was to block off the stock pick up orifice.
Changing cranks, putting the cast Eagle in it. It only costs $240 and they carry better oil pressure than stock cranks.
Isn't that like building kitchen cabinets without measuring the kitchen? Good luck with the Eagle cast crank, when it breaks don't blame whatever oil pickup you have.
There si a few posts of first hand results from those JUNK eagle cranks. Just plan on it breaking, not if but when! And as for the oil pick ups, You might have to get crafty and build a pan with baffles, and trap doors for the chassis. that way it to your liking, and you will have copacity that you lack now.
Good luck on the crank. I wouldnt use 2 things from eagle, Cast crank, and SIR rods. Both are a guarentee failure, just a matter of when.
I realize there is a risk of any manufacturers parts failing, but you have a better chance with a factory crank, and rods than a cast eagle crank.
I think you are just saying this crap on here, laying back and laughing when everyone posts how moronic you are being. You probly dont even want to run a twin pickup, you just like the drauma.
Or you are just really that ignorant.
Kasey
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Re: SB Oil Pump. Anyone ever done this?
[Re: Moparnut426]
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08/26/11 12:54 PM
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I have just read this thread...You come here asking for advice and you got it. What I see is that you don't want to listen. Lots of good people replied,whom I trust!! Do what you want but don't do anymore name calling...That is a real good way to take a Moparts vacation..Ted
Need your rear end checked out? Contact Grizzly!!
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Re: SB Oil Pump. Anyone ever done this?
[Re: Racebuddy]
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08/26/11 01:59 PM
08/26/11 01:59 PM
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working on the oil control problem is exactly what I am doing gentleman.
not using 2 pick ups on one tube.Either using 2 pick ups or one pick up with 2 tubes.
look at the picture from post number one please
Does anyone on here have a simple diagram of a basic hydraulic system. A pressureized oiling system is basically like a hydrailic system without any cylinders. If air ever gets in the system it causes cavitation regardless if there is 2 separate placed to sump oil from. Its like a soda straw, poke a hole inn it, and is sucks to suck through. Air causes air bubbles, or voids in the oil, causing cavitation, causing oil starvation causing wear on the pump rotors, and causing connecting rods to exit stage left.
2 sumps are only going to work if they BOTH never lose suction, and of you are already sucking a pan dry with one, 2 will suck more, causing the problem to happen sooner. I think this is where you arent quite getting the idea. unless oil returns faster, and you have MORE area to hold more oil, you will not change anything, but make it worse.
we need a beating the dead horse smiley.
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Re: SB Oil Pump. Anyone ever done this?
[Re: Moparnut426]
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08/26/11 02:31 PM
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Mr Moparnut426 I got 4 or 5 cast Eagles. running 2 of them now. one stock stroke one 4 inch stroke. Only problem with one of those being with the snout and key groove. Please don't wish bad luck on me with those cause everythings been cool.  i have disintegrated 2 MP cast stroker cranks, I don't use them anymore.  I like K-1 rods. They will work in whatever i throw them in.I bought a couple of sets of those off of Dan Costello, (whom has been bashing me hard here on Moparts about my dual pick up)  Dyer's rods are about the best I have used but very expensive. No SIR rods, ever. yes there has been some hearty laughter from this end. My pump is the real deal, I'm just in the developmental stages with it but rest assured, pass or fail Ima gona try it my friend. I have to prepare EVERYTHING around/with it to ensure its success. too bad your short sightedness won't let u on board.
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Re: SB Oil Pump. Anyone ever done this?
[Re: Racebuddy]
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08/26/11 03:30 PM
08/26/11 03:30 PM
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You bought junk from Dan??
I bought a couple sets of K-1 rods from him i thought they were outstanding. I hope he will help me with my next purchase.
I seriously doubt if your running high dollar cranks like Bryant or Callies.
Name calling?? Go back and read your posts and count the number of times u threw a name my way. PLEAZE
i can tell your more of a wannabe, but thats ok, guy like you has to reach for the stars
The crank in the 588 I sold has a callies crank inn it, the 355 chevy I built for my buddies dirt latemodel has a bryant crank inn it, and king rods. I dont build cheap stuff. The 355 zings 78-8800 for 35laps on a 3/8 mile track. You calling me a liar?
PLEASE!!
Kasey
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