Re: New Holley 950 carb is here
[Re: AndyF]
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08/23/11 03:13 AM
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Looks great. Holley added a ton of new features to this new line of carbs. There are so many new features I'm not going to bother trying to list them all. I like the AN fittings for the bowl and the dual bolt pattern. Adjustable throttle linkage is also cool as is the idle air bypass. Not sure about the bowl drain but I'll try it and see if I like it. The double sight glasses are a nice touch.
I'll get this carb on the dyno in the next few days and see how she compares to a Dominator. My guess is that this one will make pretty good power on my 514 motor. This is the biggest 4150 that I've ever seen. There is almost no venturi shape at all, it is almost a straight shot right down the throttle bores.
Holley is really making a great comeback, nice to see a true american company staying alive, The customer service is great too.
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Re: New Holley 950 carb is here
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08/23/11 04:27 AM
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Have you dyno'd the motor with the older stock 950, be interesting to see the difference. Mick
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Re: New Holley 950 carb is here
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08/23/11 11:51 AM
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...This is the biggest 4150 that I've ever seen. There is almost no venturi shape at all, it is almost a straight shot right down the throttle bores.
IIRC, the new 950 has a 1.59" venturi, compared to the 1.56" of the new 850 version of the same carb. Yeah, that's big, especially for a downleg booster.
Can you provide a top-view shot of the venturi?
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Re: New Holley 950 carb is here
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Re: New Holley 950 carb is here
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Andy, got an underside shot of the base? I'd like to see that dual bolt pattern Also I assume these still have the 1.750" throttle bore?
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Re: New Holley 950 carb is here
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Here is a top view.
Andy, I see that its a 2 circuit carb... I wonder how it will be in a cruise aspect(most Holley's tend to run fat at cruise)
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Re: New Holley 950 carb is here
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08/23/11 05:33 PM
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I didn't mention this carb in my book. These carbs are brand new.
Andy whats the model(or part number) for this new carb
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Re: New Holley 950 carb is here
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08/23/11 07:20 PM
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Very nice looking carb, thanks for posting!
And agree on the pictures. They always look "Just like one of Andy's pictures" (great). The trick seems to all be in the eye of the photographer, and patience to get it there. Most of the time I'm lacking in both and just want to get it over with....
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Re: New Holley 950 carb is here
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08/23/11 10:28 PM
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I like the hard anodized surfaces on the main body and bowls ... should work well with E-85... heres the features they post on their site Holley HP™ Carburetors have been the standard in racing Carburetors for nearly two decades. So how do you make them better? You make them 38% lighter, increase the fuel capacity by 20% and add 30 other new features! They're available in our all–new Hard Core Gray™ hard coat anodized finish with Black™ billet for improved corrosion protection. They're also available in natural tumble–polished aluminum with your choice of Black™ or Red™ metering blocks and base plate. The Aluminum Ultra HP comes in 600, 650, 750, 850, and True 950–CFM. • 100% Holley – Made in the U.S.A. • 97% aluminum construction • 38% weight savings • 20% more fuel bowl capacity • 10 new fuel bowl features • 10 new base plate features • 6 new metering block features • 5 new main–body features • 1 new carburetor...Ultra HP Features American Made - Materials and Assembly Aluminum Construction (saves 4.5 lbs - 38% weight savings) 6061T6 BILLET ALUMINUM METERING BLOCKS Improved durability, true gasket sealing (sealing surface integrity), bright dipped anodized for good looks and corrosion protection Fully adjustable (emulsion bleeds, power valve channel restrictors & idle feed restrictors). Power valve channel restrictors now machined lower in metering block for improved fuel delivery to power valve circuit Accelerator pump channel now internally drilled eliminating need for external plug Excess material removed for improved fuel capacity Integrated pry-point assists in disassembly from fuel bowl and mainbody preventing damage to gaskets and gasket surfaces New snap in place bowl vent whistle makes removal and/or replacement easier 6061T6 BILLET ALUMINUM BASE PLATES Improved durability, true gasket sealing, bright dipped anodized for good looks and corrosion protection Elongated (dual pattern) mounting holes allow fitment on intakes with square flange (Holley 4150™ style) or large flange (Holley Dominator® style) Dedicated race-only throttle lever with all unnecessary street attachment points & tangs removed 950 CFM throttle shaft comes slabbed and undercut for improved airflow Stainless steel adjustable secondary link. Provides choice of 1:1 or progressive secondary throttle actuation for ultimate control of secondary opening rate Knurled (hand adjustable) primary and secondary curb idle screws allow for easy idle adjustment without the use of tools Primary throttle shaft capped to prevent entry of debris & contaminates Factory machined accessory mounting hole for easy addition of adjustable throttle stop Throttle body and new secondary pump cam lever designed to provide positive throttle stop on secondary side. Delivers safe & reliable 90° opening and return of throttle plates while ensuring maximum airflow Baseplate designed with a boss that can be consumer machined for vacuum source ALL NEW FUEL BOWL DESIGN Completely redesigned from the ground up for racing 20% more fuel capacity vs. a traditional v-bowl eliminates fuel starvation and provides consistent air/fuel ratios Internal baffling to help control fuel slosh and minimize float level fluctuations in hard launching or cornering situations Fuel shelf below the needle and seat to greatly minimize fuel aeration and promote more consistent metering Fuel trough designed into floor of bowl to route fuel flow directly to the jets and assist in keeping jets covered by fuel Clear Pyrex® sight windows on both sides of bowls for easy and safe fuel level adjustments (A) Built in drain plug in front center of bowl provides easy access to empty contents of bowl (B) Contoured entry provides smooth fuel flow directly to needle & seat -8AN (o-ringed) inlet threads offer a large variety of plumbing options (come standard with -8AN o-ring to -6AN male adapter and -8AN plug). Can be plumbed from either side Material added in key areas (needle & seat area, fuel inlet, sight window area) for added strength in the demanding race environment Note: New lengthened fuel line required due to increased length of bowls (see Holley p/n 34-42, 34-43, 34-44 or Earl’s p/n AT104195ERL, AT104295ERL & AT104286ERL) UPDATED MAIN BODY DESIGN Air bleeds moved outward to allow a smoother transition of airflow from the top of the carburetor into the venturii Integrated idle bypass valve eliminates the need for holes in throttle plates and allows for proper adjustment of idle while maintaining correct throttle plate to transfer slot relationship. H elps maintain good idle control when using radical camshafts. All unnecessary mounting bosses removed for a smoother, cleaner appearance Contoured hex head squirter screws for streamlined airflow Cast in Holley HP logo for easy identification by race sanctioning bodies Available in 600, 650, 750, 850 and True 950 CFM Available tumble polished with Red™ or Black™ billet. Available in all new Hard Core Gray™ hard coat anodized with Black™ billet. First-ever hard coat anodizing on fuel bowls and mainbody - actually penetrates the aluminum for superior corrosion protection. Adjustable Throttle Stop bracket and WOT Microswitch brackets available
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Re: New Holley 950 carb is here
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08/23/11 11:02 PM
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I didn't mention this carb in my book. These carbs are brand new.
I did some exsperamenting on a 4781 850 MB i had & installed scew-in bleeds, opened up the venturies & trimed down the inner/outer part of the boosters for more flow & polished the boosters, you could definitly tell the difference when lined up with another 4781, I sold that MB to a guy who was running a standard 4781 on his ford truck he had in truck pulls, they tested my MB on the dyno & gained over 20 HP, they had the jetting at 92/92, The truck even ran better at the pulls, his engine was running alot of HP, this was 2.1/2 years ago, I got a call from him about 6 months ago, he wanted me to do up another one for his friends truck, Of coarse i didn't have a 4781 MB.
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Re: New Holley 950 carb is here
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08/26/11 02:46 AM
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I bought the grey hard anodized 950 Ultra HP for my Dad's Silver State car and it had an accelerator pump issue right out of the box. No squirt. I'm not sure of the details, it was at Bob Lambeck's place and he told me about it. It was having a miserable time on the dyno and he tracked the problem down and repaired it. All is well, and an all around beautiful piece of art.
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Re: New Holley 950 carb is here
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That's quite the carb spacer there. Custom?
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Re: New Holley 950 carb is here
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09/02/11 01:19 PM
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I had the 950 on the dyno today on top of my 514. She made right at 800 hp. Back to back tests with a Holley 1050 Dominator only picked up a few hp. This 950 ran great right out of the box. I didn't even change the jets. We just set the float level and made some pulls. The AF ratio looked good and the EGTs looked fine so we left it alone.
What were the AF's at 2000-2800 in a cruise situation?
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Re: New Holley 950 carb is here
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I had the 950 on the dyno today on top of my 514. She made right at 800 hp. Back to back tests with a Holley 1050 Dominator only picked up a few hp. This 950 ran great right out of the box. I didn't even change the jets. We just set the float level and made some pulls. The AF ratio looked good and the EGTs looked fine so we left it alone.
What were the AF's at 2000-2800 in a cruise situation?
I suppose that test could be run on an engine dyno, but you would have to know what the HP load is of the car being tested. It probably isn't a lot, maybe 40 or 50 hp to drive a car down the road at 60 mph? In any case, that isn't something that we usually do on the engine dyno.
I wouldn't think you would want a 1.60 venturi for freeway cruising anyway unless you had a giant engine. This is more of a drag race carb.
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Re: New Holley 950 carb is here
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I had the 950 on the dyno today on top of my 514. She made right at 800 hp. Back to back tests with a Holley 1050 Dominator only picked up a few hp. This 950 ran great right out of the box. I didn't even change the jets. We just set the float level and made some pulls. The AF ratio looked good and the EGTs looked fine so we left it alone.
Cool! I wonder how the Holley 1000 plus stands up to this 950?? I just had my car on the dyno and it made 37hp more with the 1050 dominator over the 1000 plus 4150 carb.
I like the sounds of this 950. I am disappointed in the Holley 1000 plus though. Had a similar result with another 1000 plus on a customers car too.
-Kenny
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Re: New Holley 950 carb is here
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Re: New Holley 950 carb is here
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Heres any interesting Holley made in America tidbit ,it is true. I work for a small chemical company here in N.J. a few months ago I was delivering a drum of some type of oil to one of our customers, a die casting plant in Central Jersey as I walked in I saw hundreds of Holley bowels and main bodies on skids it appears they make them for Holley. I was just there yesterday and saw a skid of Dominator main bodies.
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