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Re: Some B1 Original pics......... [Re: kens avenger] #105605
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Real good #'s with such little port work

315cc's and [Email]416@800[/Email] nice.. some in here said that a M/C head will only go 420cfm...

nice work brian .Thanks .let us know more as you go along..
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To me, the most impressive # is the .400 #. It's very hard to keep that # high, and still keep the port pulling. Usually I have give up some mid lift for high lift but I've learned a few things so they seem to be working for my porting syle.

Another thing I like to point out, is the exhaust port could be made alot bigger, especially at the bowl/roof transition, and it would flow more...but I like smaller high flowing high air speed ports for the ex. I also flowed it at 42" to see how it responds and it did very well with the pipe.
The ex. port from the flange to the guide boss is almost the exact same size as it was OOTB.
If we were going for more rpm, or max effort, or nos then the ex. port would have been bigger for sure.

Oh, and even though it looks like not very much work, it was alot of grinding to get them to the finished size and shape. The initial work was not too bad at all, very simple stuff...but the finished port got quite a bit bigger. I'd guess that the port cc after the initial port work was around 295-300cc.
There's a little more grinding on the 315cc port than a typical Indy-1 port job.
But it's worth it for sure!!
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Re: Some B1 Original pics......... [Re: Brian Hafliger] #105606
10/04/08 06:40 PM
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A fully ported MC head done properly will go in excess of 420 with out any issues. Heck My originals were at 422...


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Re: Some B1 Original pics......... [Re: Al_Alguire] #105607
10/05/08 02:17 PM
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Ive seen some MC heads with a wild oval port job go into the 450 cfm range and they powered my friends Cuda into the 8.60 range. THat car would have gone 40s with some tuning. He sold the engine though. Someone is a lucky buyer.


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Re: Some B1 Original pics......... [Re: PUNK] #105608
10/05/08 03:01 PM
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Ive seen some MC heads with a wild oval port job go into the 450 cfm range and they powered my friends Cuda into the 8.60 range. THat car would have gone 40s with some tuning. He sold the engine though. Someone is a lucky buyer. [/


So how much quicker do you think that motor will be in the tube chassis cuda its going into?

Re: Some B1 Original pics......... [Re: Darryls-Demon] #105609
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what were the valve sizes in this head build ? and anyone have a flow sheet on a ported set...

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Re: Some B1 Original pics......... [Re: moparniac] #105610
06/06/09 01:00 AM
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what were the valve sizes in this head build ? and anyone have a flow sheet on a ported set...




2.40/1.78 both Titanum, and yes I have the flow sheets, and yes they are oval, and yes they are over 450..


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Re: Some B1 Original pics......... [Re: Al_Alguire] #105611
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Brian, in your opinion, how much would your basic stock rocker arm head pick up if you unshrouded the valves to use the head on a 4.5 bore?

i cant get over what the chambers look like on that head. never seen this post before


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Re: Some B1 Original pics......... [Re: Brian Hafliger] #105612
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Re: Some B1 Original pics......... [Re: sixpackgut] #105613
06/08/09 11:31 AM
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Brian, in your opinion, how much would your basic stock rocker arm head pick up if you unshrouded the valves to use the head on a 4.5 bore?

i cant get over what the chambers look like on that head. never seen this post before




Depends on the valve size, and core shift. Some heads have decent room in one chamber, and the next one will be tight.
On some more exotic heads, you actually want to shroud the intake valve some....
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Re: Some B1 Original pics......... [Re: DV8] #105614
06/08/09 07:45 PM
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A few weeks ago I saw that Mark was selling some parts on here. Is he still using these heads? Or is he just putting them on a different set up?

Re: Some B1 Original pics......... [Re: 512 VALIANT] #105615
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Hey Steve. The heads in this thread are the same ones for sale in the race parts section. They're still brand new. I'm going a different direction and am not going to use them. Brian did a heck of a job porting/prepping these things.

Re: Some B1 Original pics......... [Re: Sci Fi 64] #105616
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I finally finished these B1's! Here are the last of the pics, all finished up and ready for shipping.
Going all the way to Canada

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Re: Some B1 Original pics......... [Re: Brian Hafliger] #105617
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Re: Some B1 Original pics......... [Re: Brian Hafliger] #105618
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'nother shot

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Re: Some B1 Original pics......... [Re: Brian Hafliger] #105619
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70cc chambers

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Re: Some B1 Original pics......... [Re: Brian Hafliger] #105620
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oil drain back holes tapped to 3/8 NPT

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Re: Some B1 Original pics......... [Re: Brian Hafliger] #105621
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enlongated pushrod holes topside

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Re: Some B1 Original pics......... [Re: Brian Hafliger] #105622
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Our B1 cnc ported don't come close to those on the exhaust side.


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