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Racing with E -85 #1049416
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I am looking for a link to as much info as I can get about E-85. also any info from this site.
might consider running it if I like what I read.
Ths cost of good racing gas is getting out of reach.

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You will wonder why you didnt change over long ago...
cheap and very consistent... here's a few sites

http://www.e85performance.net/forums/

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Re: Racing with E -85 [Re: pittsburghracer] #1049420
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Thanks P body and Pittsburg
I have been out of racing for a few years. just getting back into it. only out about 3 times in the last 3 years.

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Thanks P body and Pittsburg
I have been out of racing for a few years. just getting back into it. only out about 3 times in the last 3 years.




I changed over to E-85 a few years back..... love it...
car is deadly consistent... runs cooler and its CHEAP

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those links look great again thanks
I will be reading and learning for a long while.

Of course I want to learn to do my own carbs. cant be too hard. I know Holleys inside and out.

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I'v just received a diy kit from Justus Daniel,have herd nothing but good things about him so i'll see if ill have any luck ...

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those links look great again thanks
I will be reading and learning for a long while.

Of course I want to learn to do my own carbs. cant be too hard. I know Holleys inside and out.



We have several members on this site that do change overs and are very good and reasonably priced if you run into any problems. I picked up another 1050 Dominator carb and will probably give E85 a try next year.


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Re: Racing with E -85 [Re: pittsburghracer] #1049425
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I am considering going with E85 on my street/strip SB stroker build. Haven't heard anything negative yet about running it.

There is a station a half mile from my house. I burn it in the wife's company car whenever it's my turn to fill it up.


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Thanks P body and Pittsburg
I have been out of racing for a few years. just getting back into it. only out about 3 times in the last 3 years.




What are you paying for race gas? It's 6.50 a gallon for 110 here, 2.70 something for E-85. I'd roughly have to go through 200 gallons of E-85 to pay for the costs of converting over the carb. That would be 5 years worth of racing.

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What are you paying for race gas? It's 6.50 a gallon for 110 here, 2.70 something for E-85. I'd roughly have to go through 200 gallons of E-85 to pay for the costs of converting over the carb. That would be 5 years worth of racing.


It really depends on how much racing you do, and how big a motor (power) you make.

I burn about 150 gallons a year and the first year (2008) I switched race gas (110) was $7/gallon and E85 was $2.29. So a carb conversion paid for itself the first year. With pump gas prices high in 2011, E85 is higher right now. Who knows about next year. But 1 or 2 years is a great payback period, and even 3 for a new carb is worth it, in my opinion.

This is my 4th year. The first year (2008) was with a carb conversion, then I bought a used Ron's Flying Toilet injection system and that paid for itself in 2 years of fuel savings. Well, actually I won so much money racing the 1st year (2009) of injection it paid for itself in a few months... LOL


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Re: Racing with E -85 [Re: 440Jim] #1049428
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Hey 440 JIM and MR P BODY i see you all run E-85 i have not run it but i run Alcohol in my ROADRUNNER for 6 or 7 years and now i run it in my DUSTER i am getting a Alc 1050 made by RUPERT he made my 950 for my 572 in my car now and he made me a 1050 for my bird about 12 years ago he is one of the best did you all run Alc before you all went E-85 and are they about the same. Sorry about cutting in here i would just like to know THANKS

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Hey 440 JIM and MR P BODY i see you all run E-85 i have not run it but i run Alcohol in my ROADRUNNER for 6 or 7 years and now i run it in my DUSTER i am getting a Alc 1050 made by RUPERT he made my 950 for my 572 in my car now and he made me a 1050 for my bird about 12 years ago he is one of the best did you all run Alc before you all went E-85 and are they about the same. Sorry about cutting in here i would just like to know THANKS




I ran 112 octane race gas before I changed to E-85

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MR P how much did your car pick up with E-85 pick up over 112 gas? my car picked up around tenth & a 1/2 on Alcohol over 114 gas.

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MR P how much did your car pick up with E-85 pick up over 112 gas? my car picked up around tenth & a 1/2 on Alcohol over 114 gas.




Didnt pick up at all... for the same weather it was
within thousandths

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MR P how much did your car pick up with E-85 pick up over 112 gas? my car picked up around tenth & a 1/2 on Alcohol over 114 gas.




Didnt pick up at all... for the same weather it was
within thousandths



A friend run a 1050 alc and put a 1150 gas on and run the same i put a old 1050 alc on and run a little slower then my 950 alc 2 weeks ago so i hope this new 1050 will go a little faster . THANKS

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MR P how much did your car pick up with E-85 pick up over 112 gas? my car picked up around tenth & a 1/2 on Alcohol over 114 gas.




Didnt pick up at all... for the same weather it was
within thousandths



A friend run a 1050 alc and put a 1150 gas on and run the same i put a old 1050 alc on and run a little slower then my 950 alc 2 weeks ago so i hope this new 1050 will go a little faster . THANKS




I dont normally run in cool weather but I did once
with the E-85 and I went 8.96 at 151... but in the
heat(even up to 90*) I run 9.06 to 9.08... in the
cool runs I thought I was on the lean side so it might
have gone quicker if I fattened it up

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you guys are whineing about your racegas price.
In Sweden low octan pump is about $8.50/gallon!!!
E-85 is around $5.80/gallon

racegas is somewhere around $21.50/gallon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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you guys are whineing about your racegas price.
In Sweden low octan pump is about $8.50/gallon!!!
E-85 is around $5.80/gallon

racegas is somewhere around $21.50/gallon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




If I had to pay those prices for race gas I wouldnt be
racing... I changed over to E-85 because it was 2.35
a gal VS 9.00 for 112 (back when I changed over),
its 3.35 now... didnt matter if I went quicker or not

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We've got one car each on E 85 and Methanol both 512's.
My E 85 motor is 13.4 to 1 comp. and the Methanol motor
is an even 14. Both work great. I purchaced the E 85 carb from
Chris at classic motor sports. A real sharp guy that can answer all your questions.
Go the the web site or call hin at 320-352-2051

Re: Racing with E -85 [Re: steeldust] #1049437
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I see your in Tennessee and run at I-40 drag way over in Crossville. Here in East TN all we can get is E70. I checked with the local stations around here and none of them have E-85. They tell me E-70 is all the supplier offers. Something you may want to consider. I am running a blend of meth and E-70 in my car.

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I see your in Tennessee and run at I-40 drag way over in Crossville. Here in East TN all we can get is E70. I checked with the local stations around here and none of them have E-85. They tell me E-70 is all the supplier offers. Something you may want to consider. I am running a blend of meth and E-70 in my car.


I have not checked and see if i can get E-85 or not but Alc i love running it and Rupert that makes the carbs he is about 35 miles from me and that makes it easy to get parts and he helps me out and i got to go and pick up my new 1050 up THURSDAY . Hey do you race at knoxville track or 411 any.

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Hey 440 JIM and MR P BODY i see you all run E-85 i have not run it but i run Alcohol


I was running race gas (110) before. I tested E85 in a carb and went with that for 1 year. Then I got the used Flying Toilet injection and started the tune with alky (methanol) for a few months. When I was happy, they helped me tune the system for E85 and have been running it ever since.

IMO, the differences:
1) E85 runs cooler than gas, but not as cool as methanol
2) E85 runs quicker than gas, but not as quick as methanol. Same in cool weather, bigger difference in hot weather.
3) E85 is not as corrosive/troublesome as methanol, but I had no problems with methanol.
4) E85 was the cheapest fuel of the three, considering fuel consumption and cost per gallon.

The only bad part of E85 is the few number of stations that carry it.


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you guys are whineing about your racegas price.
In Sweden low octan pump is about $8.50/gallon!!!
E-85 is around $5.80/gallon

racegas is somewhere around $21.50/gallon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




But you have Swedish blondes walking around everywhere.


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They cost lots more than any fuel...

Re: Racing with E -85 [Re: 440Jim] #1049442
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Hey 440 JIM and MR P BODY i see you all run E-85 i have not run it but i run Alcohol


I was running race gas (110) before. I tested E85 in a carb and went with that for 1 year. Then I got the used Flying Toilet injection and started the tune with alky (methanol) for a few months. When I was happy, they helped me tune the system for E85 and have been running it ever since.

IMO, the differences:
1) E85 runs cooler than gas, but not as cool as methanol
2) E85 runs quicker than gas, but not as quick as methanol. Same in cool weather, bigger difference in hot weather.
3) E85 is not as corrosive/troublesome as methanol, but I had no problems with methanol.
4) E85 was the cheapest fuel of the three, considering fuel consumption and cost per gallon.

The only bad part of E85 is the few number of stations that carry it.


Hey JIM thanks this is what i needed to know about E-85. I just got a barrel of Methanol and it was $153.85 and i put 1 bottle of top lube and two bottles of sent and was $12.99 a bottle and all of it was $192.82 and with my 950 carb i used about a gallon a pass but with my new 1050 ? I have had NO problems with Methanol on my DUSTER but i had some on my bird little ones. Before with my bird i had a 1050 on it i used 1 1/2 gallons a pass. THANKS 440 JIM & MR P BODY

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Hey do you race at knoxville track or 411 any.




I live eight miles from English Mountain so I mostly run there. I have run at 411, Knoxville, Rogersville, and Bristol. I ran once at I -40 a couple years ago. I’m planning a trip over to I-40 later this year to meet a buddy from the Springhill area. If you decide to come over to 411 let me know and I’ll come over. 411 is only about 30 miles from me.

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Hey do you race at knoxville track or 411 any.




I live eight miles from English Mountain so I mostly run there. I have run at 411, Knoxville, Rogersville, and Bristol. I ran once at I -40 a couple years ago. I’m planning a trip over to I-40 later this year to meet a buddy from the Springhill area. If you decide to come over to 411 let me know and I’ll come over. 411 is only about 30 miles from me.


That`s cool hey 411 is redone i here and is a good track now. If you come to I-40 at a BOUNTY race i will be their with my DUSTER and the FRIDAY night before the race testing and tuneing come down we need one more MOPAR their.

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I was at 411 last month and it hasn't been redone. It is under new managment though. The track hooked good both days I was there but the car count was way down. I didn't count the cars but there was only around thirty cars there on Saturday and less than twenty Friday.

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George Rupert is a great carb guy been at it awhile. Another guy is Ken Jones out of Il.

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I just put a 1050 Rupert made for my 572 he made me a 950 and it ran good but he said this is a BAD carb it is all tricked out i guess i will see how BAD it is next FRIDAY night it better be for what i paid for it?

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getting back to the OP..... what I am reading is that the consistancy(sp) of the E-85 fuel thats out there is not that consistant from batch to batch and place to place.
how much variation do you guys find with it? and how do you correct for it? do you all test the fuel? Keep the info comming.

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...and i put 1 bottle of top lube and two bottles of sent and was $12.99 a bottle




First, welcome back Bumps! I know SteelDust was talking pure alcohol but, I wonder if a 'top-end' lube is a good idea when running E-85?

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Our fuel in Minnesota is E-70 a good portion of the year. Thankfuly it's usualy the race off season. It's to keep the pump gas guys starting in the really cold weather. The fuel is blended back to E-85 for the summer months. Unless you know what you have you should have a test kit. Most of us can find a little E-98 to blend in if we need to. I'm told there is little or no diference down to E-80 but have not dyno or track tested it to E-85 side by side.

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Our fuel in Minnesota is E-70 a good portion of the year. Thankfuly it's usualy the race off season. It's to keep the pump gas guys starting in the really cold weather. The fuel is blended back to E-85 for the summer months. Unless you know what you have you should have a test kit. Most of us can find a little E-98 to blend in if we need to. I'm told there is little or no diference down to E-80 but have not dyno or track tested it to E-85 side by side.




I buy all my E-85 at the pump but I buy it in the
summer time and fill my barrels... I test a sample
first and its always been between 85-86... yes it
does drop to E-70 in the fall to the spring but I dont
buy it then



First, welcome back Bumps! I know SteelDust was talking pure alcohol but, I wonder if a 'top-end' lube is a good idea when running E-85?

Sean, it shouldnt need a lube... it has 15% gas in
it for lube

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Thanks for the welcome

When I used to buy race gas I bought it in sealed drums to assure quality. I used VP C12 or Sunoco Supreme.... both worked very well for me..
But now the atraction to E-85 is local availability, local gas station. and it works for much less money... so I will have to get some and store some to make it consistant and test it of course. havent found any sources for E-98 or 100 as of yet. but when i do it would pay to have some around.

Re: Racing with E -85 [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1049453
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I buy all my E-85 at the pump but I buy it in the
summer time and fill my barrels... I test a sample
first and its always been between 85-86... yes it
does drop to E-70 in the fall to the spring but I dont
buy it then


Same here.
I test every batch I buy (fill a 55 gal drum) and it has always checked out 84-86%. Then fill a drum before winter for early spring use. The station in Maryland I use seems to have 85% by the first week in May.


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Re: Racing with E -85 [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1049454
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Sean, it shouldnt need a lube... it has 15% gas in
it for lube




I mention it because the engines we run thru dyno get torn-up pretty good on the seats. This is just changing to E-85. What say you 440Jim...how do your valvejobs hold-up? Or are you top-end lubing?

Re: Racing with E -85 [Re: HardcoreB] #1049455
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Sean, it shouldnt need a lube... it has 15% gas in
it for lube




I mention it because the engines we run thru dyno get torn-up pretty good on the seats. This is just changing to E-85. What say you 440Jim...how do your valvejobs hold-up? Or are you top-end lubing?




The last time I had the heads off my W-9(which has
been run on E-85 for about 4 years now)looked great
BUT they have the beryllium seats

Re: Racing with E -85 [Re: HardcoreB] #1049456
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Sean, it shouldnt need a lube... it has 15% gas in
it for lube



What say you 440Jim...how do your valvejobs hold-up? Or are you top-end lubing?


I have never used top lube in E85. My heads haven't been touched (except spring checks) since changing to E85.

Remember, flex fuel vehicles run 100,000-200,000 miles on the stuff.


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Re: Racing with E -85 [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1049457
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Our fuel in Minnesota is E-70 a good portion of the year. Thankfuly it's usualy the race off season. It's to keep the pump gas guys starting in the really cold weather. The fuel is blended back to E-85 for the summer months. Unless you know what you have you should have a test kit. Most of us can find a little E-98 to blend in if we need to. I'm told there is little or no diference down to E-80 but have not dyno or track tested it to E-85 side by side.




I buy all my E-85 at the pump but I buy it in the
summer time and fill my barrels... I test a sample
first and its always been between 85-86... yes it
does drop to E-70 in the fall to the spring but I dont
buy it then



First, welcome back Bumps! I know SteelDust was talking pure alcohol but, I wonder if a 'top-end' lube is a good idea when running E-85?

Sean, it shouldnt need a lube... it has 15% gas in
it for lube



I run Alcohol in my bird for years and i had top lube in it i had the motor apart a bunch the heads was OK no problems but the cylinders you could see some spots but i did not have to bore it just hone it i run in my DUSTER lube because i run straight Alcohol for the cylinders only. But BRAD a friend he runs straight Alcohol with NO lube and he runs in the 4s in a 1/8 of mile but when he gos home he pulls the plugs and puts WD-40 in the cylinders and spins the motor over and i do this to with my 572 motor now.

Re: Racing with E -85 [Re: steeldust] #1049458
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I just thought I'd post this to help with tuning when E85 really isn't E85.

Re: Racing with E -85 [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1049459
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Anybody race E85 with Edelbrock carbs? Can't run Holleys as it's a N/SS car. Also motor is 15-1. What do you think?
Doug

Re: Racing with E -85 [Re: dvw] #1049460
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Race fuel like VP 110 is $55/gallon in Australia. E85 is about $12/gallon. Unless you race here you should never complain about fuel costs

Re: Racing with E -85 [Re: vc360] #1049461
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This post caught my attention. I've got a project car for a twin turbo build..how much boost can I build before a detonation problem? I see some fairly high compression #'s ...but no cam specs.

Re: Racing with E -85 [Re: 440Jim] #1049462
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Remember, flex fuel vehicles run 100,000-200,000 miles on the stuff.




True, but at least in the case of the Ford vehicles, they also change the valve material to work with the Ethanol on the flexfuel applications only.


'18 Ford Raptor, random motorcycles, 1968 Plymouth Fury III - 11.37 @ 118
Re: Racing with E -85 [Re: Mopar_Rich] #1049463
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Thanks for putting up that chart Mopar Rich, I hadn't seen that before.



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Re: Racing with E -85 [Re: dvw] #1049464
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Anybody race E85 with Edelbrock carbs? Can't run Holleys as it's a N/SS car. Also motor is 15-1. What do you think?
Doug




a friend does,this car was converted last weekend driven alitle on the street during the week and was raced this weekend with some ok results but it will take more tuning to get the full benefits for sure. and its "only" a 13:1 motor dont know how E85 will handle 15:1.

we have no idea about how the rubber for the accpump will handle it that is our biggest concern. jetting wasnt that hard even if the results arent perfect or close to it yet,getting the idlesircuit rich enough was worst he ended up taking out the mixturescrews all toghter and just plugging the holes. tunnelramed streetsmallblock with two 500cfm edelbrocks.

Re: Racing with E -85 [Re: David_in_St_Croi] #1049465
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you guys are whineing about your racegas price.
In Sweden low octan pump is about $8.50/gallon!!!
E-85 is around $5.80/gallon

racegas is somewhere around $21.50/gallon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




But you have Swedish blondes walking around everywhere.




yep its insane for sure.

haha all these blondes cost an arm and a leg to live with dont ask me how i know this

Re: Racing with E -85 [Re: dvw] #1049466
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Anybody race E85 with Edelbrock carbs? Can't run Holleys as it's a N/SS car. Also motor is 15-1. What do you think?
Doug




I run 14.1:1 and its fine... its all about the cam
selection when running high compression... you need
a wider LSA to reduce some cyl pressure... I never
used a Ebrock with E-85

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