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Re: Engine Pressure Blowing Oil [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1048114
08/06/11 08:14 PM
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No no e vac system. should I get one?




No... not with a full exhaust... a E-vac will pull a
max of 5"hg and with a exhaust for every inch of back
pressure you reduce the effectiveness by that same amount
so if the exhaust is greater than 5"hg it will pressurize
the crank case





Mr P,I thought the one way valve for the evac system would prevent that from occuring.


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Re: Engine Pressure Blowing Oil [Re: hemi-itis] #1048115
08/06/11 08:21 PM
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The last time my engine blew out the dip stick, buckled the valley pan and blew oil everywhere I wiped a exhaust cam lobe. What kind of cam do you have?


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Re: Engine Pressure Blowing Oil [Re: hemi-itis] #1048116
08/06/11 08:24 PM
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No no e vac system. should I get one?




No... not with a full exhaust... a E-vac will pull a
max of 5"hg and with a exhaust for every inch of back
pressure you reduce the effectiveness by that same amount
so if the exhaust is greater than 5"hg it will pressurize
the crank case





Mr P,I thought the one way valve for the evac system would prevent that from occuring.




If you start backing up that heat, that valve wont
last for a minute

Re: Engine Pressure Blowing Oil [Re: dumbdog70] #1048117
08/07/11 12:33 AM
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No no e vac system. should I get one?


Forget the Evac system. Weather you have one or not is not your problem. Step the PCV away from the oil baffle at least 1/4" - minumum and hook the hose to a vacuum source ( vacuum at idle, not ported vacuum ). Leave the breather off on the other valve cover. Fire it up and at idle put your hand over the open breather hole. You should feel some amount of suction ( even with a stout cam ). If it starts to pressurise right away, you have excessive blow-by for some reason.


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Re: Engine Pressure Blowing Oil [Re: Crizila] #1048118
08/07/11 07:23 AM
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On a motor that size I would consider a crank scraper. The 7 qt system is marginal and windage may continue to give you problems.


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Re: Engine Pressure Blowing Oil [Re: gregsdart] #1048119
08/07/11 01:48 PM
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On a motor that size I would consider a crank scraper. The 7 qt system is marginal and windage may continue to give you problems.


Anything you can do to control windage will make the car faster


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Re: Engine Pressure Blowing Oil [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1048120
08/07/11 03:41 PM
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Hello,

I had some similar problems on a car with a full exhaust. The tubing was not welded to the end of the reducer. The tubing was inserted past the reducer end over an inch. This caused a bunch of back pressure that only showed up for me at the track. Intake leaks, dipstick pushed up, ballooned up pan, leaks etc. This was a fresh motor also. Do you have a full exhaust?

Damon




What are you referring to when you say tubing





The 2.5" exhaust pipe was inserted thru the reducer and not mated to the end of the reducer just off the header collector. Caused a heck of a reversion that caused back pressure into the heads and then into the chambers from what I can tell. When the exhaust was corrected the problems went away. No other changes were done.

Damon

Re: Engine Pressure Blowing Oil [Re: dumbdog70] #1048121
08/07/11 04:43 PM
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Man ... people talking about PCV tubes, windage trays and scrapers ......

I talked to a Bud of mine in FL last nite ... this topic was brought up and he actually TESTED THIS some years back.

He plumbed-in a air fitting into a motor he was going to rebuild ... and put 80 psi into the oil pan to BALLOON-UP the valley-pan like that.

What you have here is some major BLOW-BY ... like holes in pistons or busted up rings.

Re: Engine Pressure Blowing Oil [Re: dOc !] #1048122
08/07/11 05:07 PM
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Man ... people talking about PCV tubes, windage trays and scrapers ......

I talked to a Bud of mine in FL last nite ... this topic was brought up and he actually TESTED THIS some years back.

He plumbed-in a air fitting into a motor he was going to rebuild ... and put 80 psi into the oil pan to BALLOON-UP the valley-pan like that.

What you have here is some major BLOW-BY ... like holes in pistons or busted up rings.




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