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Re: 1970 Blues Cuda "Rejuvination" [Re: 70Cuda383] #1044938
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Buy a small sand blaster you can do small areas at a time. I wouldn't cover that area up without blasting it. Take it one day at a time.


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Re: 1970 Blues Cuda "Rejuvination" [Re: moparpollack] #1044939
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Those trunk floor extensions take a bit of finessing.

DAMHIK!

It doesn't look bad at all once the quarter was removed!

When you go to replace the quarter make sure you have the doors on, the rear valance and rear bumper. It took some work to get my valance to fit properly before welding.

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Wise choice keeping it as a roller... Back in 79 I was stationed on Guam, a guy in a different command had a 71 Hemi Challenger.. He got the bright idea to tear it apart & do some much needed repairs.... Then he got accepted to Nuke school.... You have four days to pack & get headed to Great Lakes..... I wound up with a 71 Hemi Challenger for $400.00... Unfortunately I never found all the parts as he had scattered them in storerooms in his barracks, at his old command, at the base hobby shop & who knows where else.... Anyway enough on that... Yeah keep the car as a roller... & have fun...


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Re: 1970 Blues Cuda "Rejuvination" [Re: moparpollack] #1044941
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Buy a small sand blaster you can do small areas at a time. I wouldn't cover that area up without blasting it. Take it one day at a time.




don't worry, that rusty stuff WILL be addressed before new skin goes on. I'm thinking wire wheel to knock it down, rust neutralizer or acid wash, neuatralizer for the acid if I go that route, then shoot it all with zero rust from Resto-Rick.

I opened up a hole in the rocker panel inside hte door area, where the kick plates go, just for inspection. actually it was pretty good in there. all the rust so far is in the wheel tubs and lower quarter area, in front of and behind the wheels.

I checked out the 71 Cuda that AMD built. talked to the guy, and apparently about 15% of that 71 shell is original. frame rails, etc. he said everything else is brand new parts. It made a great reference to take some pics of, for how the sheetmetal is supposed to "lay" since my stock stuff is non-existent in places! not many E-body owners will let you crawl all over their car, reaching deep into the trunk to snap pics, crawl on the ground under it to look up from underneath, etc.


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Re: 1970 Blues Cuda "Rejuvination" [Re: 70Cuda383] #1044942
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some update pics! process is slow, but steady. it's interesting making these patch pieces with nothing but an angle grinder, some hammers, and a welder. no sheet metal brake, no wooden mallets, no english wheel, no shrinker/stretcher... so...I've resorted to making relief cuts, bend as needed, and weld up the cuts accordingly.

right now I'm patching in the outter wheel well. yes, it'd be faster and easier to remove it and weld in an entire replacement panel, but my clock is longer than my pockets are deep. if I buy every replacement panel that I was going to need--I'd probably spend $20K in just replacement sheet metal. I've got the goodmark quarter panels, trunk floor and floor extensions...I think that alone puts me at almost $1500. This car is NOT meant to be a perfect, concours, stock restoration show car. it's to be a solid, rust free quality driver that will get driven.

anyway, enough ramblings...on to the pics!

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more--sheesh, even after a few weeks, it won't let me make another post with just 'more' as the text! "post already exists" whatever!

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And, I hung the quarter in place, just to check the fitment of all my patch work, making sure it's going to line up still with the quarter. so far, so good! it's lined up PERFECTLY! and no hammering or massaging of the quarter needed!!!

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Re: 1970 Blues Cuda "Rejuvination" [Re: 70Cuda383] #1044945
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Dang, this looks good sitting there...SOO TEMPTING to just tack it in and go! but, I can't let myself do that. I have to kill the cancer before it spreads!!

plus, I'm enjoying the practice with all these little patches, getting the metal to fit, welding it, grinding the welds to find out where I have holes still. anyway...I'm excited for how well this is going so far!

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body lines are lined up perfectly with the lines on the door. it just "fell" into place.


I had my worries about how this panel was going to fit, when goodmark released these, everyone talked about how great they were...then after I had mine in hand, there were tons of posts on here about how crappy and junky they were. Maybe I got a rare set or just dumb luck, but this one is lining up with everything perfectly

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Re: 1970 Blues Cuda "Rejuvination" [Re: 70Cuda383] #1044947
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Hey Tom,
Thanks for posting pics of your work.

Ray

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Hey Tom,
Thanks for posting pics of your work.

Ray




It's ugly, I doubt anyone will be asking me to help them do their car, but I'm learning as I go, and it's way better than the Swiss cheese that was there before!

Hopefully it'll help motivate others like me, with a car they love, but no checkbook to pay for the work, just a vision of the finished product and the determination to do it... And the willingness to cut it out and start over if it doesnt work the first time!!

You guys would probably laugh at my equipment-- a harbor freight flux core mig welder, a cutoff wheel/angle grinder, and some body hammers!!


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Hey Tom,
Thanks for posting pics of your work.

Ray




It's ugly, I doubt anyone will be asking me to help them do their car, but I'm learning as I go, and it's way better than the Swiss cheese that was there before!

Hopefully it'll help motivate others like me, with a car they love, but no checkbook to pay for the work, just a vision of the finished product and the determination to do it... And the willingness to cut it out and start over if it doesnt work the first time!!

You guys would probably laugh at my equipment-- a harbor freight flux core mig welder, a cutoff wheel/angle grinder, and some body hammers!!




You could of save yourself some work by starting with a rust free A body. It took me along time to get my tools. My wife bought me my welder for Christmas and our Anniversary gifts. For two years I bought a $50 tool a month. My stud gun was off ebay on the cheap along with other used tools. My air compressor was bought from Lowes as a close out. It took a lot to spend $575 on a compressor. But it retailed for $900. Now I'm set up to do cars for the rest of my life. You're lucky you just have one car to do. Maybe I'll finish one of my 4 projects next year as I'm going on vacation again.


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Re: 1970 Blues Cuda "Rejuvination" [Re: moparpollack] #1044950
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Looks great to me. It can't be any worse than the work done to my car. I am going to have to spend a bunch of time finishing and fixing previous work on it. This does give me hope and motivation to tackle sheetmetal work.
Travis..


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Re: 1970 Blues Cuda "Rejuvination" [Re: 70Cuda383] #1044951
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Hey it is looking great. I am in the process of doing a challenger and some of your pics are very similar. Just curious what your plans are to fix your windsheild rot. I have a 70 Challenger conv with rot also and the part is not available.

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Hey it is looking great. I am in the process of doing a challenger and some of your pics are very similar. Just curious what your plans are to fix your windsheild rot. I have a 70 Challenger conv with rot also and the part is not available.




Don't know yet!! One area at a time. Small sections till it's all done. If I can't patch it, AMD had roof skins which cover the top of the window channel, and I saw they also have A-pillars, and firewall/cowels too. Hope I don't have to buy them though... That's like, $1500 in replacent panels.


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just about ready to weld on the quarter panel and move to the other side to start all over.

the bottom corner of this deck filler piece was rotted away so I fabricated it by cutting small pieces, bending some of them and welding them together.

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after grinding the welds, re-welding holes/gaps, and final grinding. a skim coat of bondo and it'll be good as new!!

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another angle. not quite perfect on the fab work, but...nobody will really see this anyway with the trunk lid closed...and a little bondo and sanding might help clean it up some too...

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outer wheel well all patched up. no more holes or soft spots. everything passed the "pick ax" test. used the pointy end of a body hammer and didn't get any new holes anywhere.


--also, I sprayed everything down with a rust converter, the phosphoric acid stuff that converts the rust (FeO) to Iron phosphate (Fe-phosphate)

you can see the new metal vs old, all the new metal is still shiny silver, from the front side of the wheel well about half way around, and then the very back corner of the wheel well.

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holy crap...is it really ready to weld the replacement panel pieces back in, and toss on the quarter panel?!

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