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Re: WHY [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1040968
07/27/11 08:04 PM
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Byron, NY
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Really its the "quantity vs. quality" mentality. Look at the people you know that have a bunch of "off shore" anything, from clothes to Die-cast models,more is always better quality be damb'd.
I prefer quality rather than quantity I don't usualy buy platinum, but hardly ever buy plastic, with me its about cost vs. use and desired life expectancy. If I dont have the money to buy the thing I want, I'll wait 'till I do, some just gotta have it now...


'01 P1500, Blown/Inj BAE,/Veney ,Bruno/CS2,Dana 60
'01 Dodge 3500 S Cummins Auto, Fresh air kit, 4" Exhaust,
'05 Dodge Magnum R/T - Too Much to list
'60 Willys CJ5
'01 International LPX - Project,DT466, Allison
'64 Plymouth Valiant, Inj 528 Hemi, 2spd
Re: WHY [Re: Biginchmopar] #1040969
07/27/11 08:15 PM
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well the main thing is we are all mopar brothers here... when i see another mopar on the street or strip i smile ear to ear because i know we are in the same club! anyone with deep pockets can make anything fast. ive always rooted for the lil guy with the 12.20 street car that is going that fast with nothing fancy. less is more in his case. id could run 9.0s buckfifty NO PROBLEM if i had the funds and desire. id rather have a small block turbo street car that runs in the 8s and drives to the track! but the point is everyone is at whatever level they are and its cool. i love these cars and i dont want to be anywhere else. i think this site is the best. i pay all lot of attention to what yall say and soak up as much info as i can. thanks for that.


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Re: WHY [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1040970
07/27/11 08:46 PM
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Out of the State of Confusion
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Good children, now get along good and papa will buy you a Tiawan version of the Motown Missle...okay!?! If not, I'll take the sand out of the sandbox and you can play on the asphalt! Hahaha...thanks GUS, mopar/Chrysler/Plymouth/Dodge...brothers and sisters...

Re: WHY [Re: blue_stocker] #1040971
07/27/11 08:56 PM
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Iowa
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Maybe some people don't have your money or arrogance

Re: WHY [Re: coronetville] #1040972
07/27/11 09:25 PM
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EDIT:

IF that was directed at me...No arrogance intended, just humor. Why not see things on the light side?! Besides I'm a poor guy! Poverty level seems to be my place after slick Willy! Do I complain? NO, just try to make the best of it...thanks!

BTW, Hi Mike, how's things doing with you these days?..wb

Re: WHY [Re: coronetville] #1040973
07/27/11 09:25 PM
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Romeo MI
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Maybe some people don't have your money or arrogance




Now who is this directed at

Re: WHY [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1040974
07/27/11 09:43 PM
07/27/11 09:43 PM
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Syracuse,NY
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" Lets Make A Deal"

Pic #1

This guy approached me Sunday at the track with a " problem" with his " new" engine. I know the builder, and I know HE didnt choose these parts. The customer did.He saved a ton.

6750014-PC440Srocker.JPG (41 downloads)

RIP Monte Smith

Your work is a reflection of yourself, autograph it with quality.

WD for Diamond Pistons,Sidewinder cylinder heads, Wiseco, K1 rods and cranks,BAM lifters, Morel lifters, Molnar Technologies, Harland Sharp, Pro Gear, Cometic, King Engine Bearings and many others.
Re: WHY [Re: CompWedgeEngines] #1040975
07/27/11 09:45 PM
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Syracuse,NY
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Lets Make A Deal 2

You'll notice a pattern here...


RIP Monte Smith

Your work is a reflection of yourself, autograph it with quality.

WD for Diamond Pistons,Sidewinder cylinder heads, Wiseco, K1 rods and cranks,BAM lifters, Morel lifters, Molnar Technologies, Harland Sharp, Pro Gear, Cometic, King Engine Bearings and many others.
Re: WHY [Re: CompWedgeEngines] #1040976
07/27/11 09:46 PM
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ok...there are 4 levels of parts here....match the price to the parts.....

$1500

$625

$400

$299

6750021-Rockers1.JPG (50 downloads)

RIP Monte Smith

Your work is a reflection of yourself, autograph it with quality.

WD for Diamond Pistons,Sidewinder cylinder heads, Wiseco, K1 rods and cranks,BAM lifters, Morel lifters, Molnar Technologies, Harland Sharp, Pro Gear, Cometic, King Engine Bearings and many others.
Re: WHY [Re: CompWedgeEngines] #1040977
07/27/11 09:49 PM
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Syracuse,NY
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$1500 were in a B1 Top Sportsman car

$625 were in a 9.40 bracket car..never had to adjust the valves once in 270 runs

$400...well...they worked for a while in a 10 second bracket car

$299....worked a few WEEKS in a 10.00 451 bracket car at only 6500 RPM

6750023-Rockers2.JPG (32 downloads)

RIP Monte Smith

Your work is a reflection of yourself, autograph it with quality.

WD for Diamond Pistons,Sidewinder cylinder heads, Wiseco, K1 rods and cranks,BAM lifters, Morel lifters, Molnar Technologies, Harland Sharp, Pro Gear, Cometic, King Engine Bearings and many others.
Re: WHY [Re: CompWedgeEngines] #1040978
07/27/11 09:56 PM
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Quote:

ok...there are 4 levels of parts here....match the price to the parts.....

$1500

$625

$400

$299




thats funny


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Re: WHY [Re: sixpackgut] #1040979
07/27/11 09:58 PM
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Akron, Ohio U.S.A.
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Show off

I have the $625.00 ones
But my heads only cost me $200.00 bare

Re: WHY [Re: sixpackgut] #1040980
07/27/11 09:58 PM
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Syracuse,NY
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I try...but I'm gonna keep my day job....


RIP Monte Smith

Your work is a reflection of yourself, autograph it with quality.

WD for Diamond Pistons,Sidewinder cylinder heads, Wiseco, K1 rods and cranks,BAM lifters, Morel lifters, Molnar Technologies, Harland Sharp, Pro Gear, Cometic, King Engine Bearings and many others.
Re: WHY [Re: CompWedgeEngines] #1040981
07/27/11 10:53 PM
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st.cloud fl
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i think if i was going to buy cheap rockers they would be the bushed stainless cats but that would be with just a mild cam

Re: WHY [Re: roadhazard] #1040982
07/27/11 11:06 PM
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I'll be at Thompson Saturday...you gonna be there???????


RIP Monte Smith

Your work is a reflection of yourself, autograph it with quality.

WD for Diamond Pistons,Sidewinder cylinder heads, Wiseco, K1 rods and cranks,BAM lifters, Morel lifters, Molnar Technologies, Harland Sharp, Pro Gear, Cometic, King Engine Bearings and many others.
Re: WHY [Re: d-150] #1040983
07/27/11 11:08 PM
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And the reason for this post is?? Oh yeah.....look at me.

Re: WHY [Re: TrWaters] #1040984
07/27/11 11:11 PM
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no its look at that broke junk rocker

Re: WHY [Re: CompWedgeEngines] #1040985
07/27/11 11:14 PM
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Quote:

$1500 were in a B1 Top Sportsman car

$625 were in a 9.40 bracket car..never had to adjust the valves once in 270 runs

$400...well...they worked for a while in a 10 second bracket car

$299....worked a few WEEKS in a 10.00 451 bracket car at only 6500 RPM


I think most on here understand the concept. If you look up the word "Cheap" in the dictionary, it has atleast 6 different meanings ( not including made outside the USA )- which makes this thread "of little value" - which is meaning #4 in my dictionary


Fastest 300
Re: WHY [Re: CompWedgeEngines] #1040986
07/27/11 11:15 PM
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Thanks Mike for having the guts to say what many others think, and I agree with the statement made, it's not just confined to Mopars, but I seem to come across more tight wads in the Mopar community.

Firstly, let me clarify a couple of things. Being on a "Budget" and being "Cheap" are two different things in my eyes.

Being on a budget to me means a limited budget, and spending it wisely. With my change in personal circumstances (A baby on the way, a partner and step daughter) I don't have the disposal income I used to have. So intern, I spend my $$$ more wisely. In saying that though, I try to avoid the Chinese crap as much as possible and tend to opt for good second hand parts or new second hand stuff. I also try to make or fab whatever I can, or do barter deals. For example I have made a bunch of torque plates etc for a friend, he in turn has machine up my 360 for me. If I buy new, I buy whatever works best for my application from people that look after me. When I say look after me, price is a small part, the advice and service I get is more important.

I have little time or really understand people that are "cheap". They buy on price alone, giving little thought to how long the item might last etc. When buying second hand they will offer well below the asking price (What annoys me even more, is when they then re-sell the item and ask top dollar!) The lengths some of these guys will go to to save a few dollars astounds me.

As example of a tight wad. I make a kit for small blocks so you can run a remote oil filter.
I had a gentleman contact me via a local based web forum asking for more details and a cost on the kit.
I let him know that the one he inquired about wouldn't fit his application but I was about to finish one that would and the price would be the same.
Then he asked if a can make a custom one off right angle outlet fitting and how much it would cost. I gave him a price, it was too expensive. I quoted it cheap considering I would have to design, program, machine and test fit it, and make any corrections that might be necessary.
About a week of 2-4 emails a day from this guy, he eventually asks if he can buy just the filter plate, he was going to "butcher up" (his words, not mine) fittings and lines to suit. I gave him a price, he counter offered $5 less, to which I politely declined.
About 3 months later he contacted me again, asked how much for the filter plate, to which I gave him the same price. He responded with saying I told him the price he offered, to which I reminded him that he offered me that price and I politely declined. Haven't heard from the guy since. The thing that surprises me most if this is all he needed to get the car going apparently.

The thing that gets me going is the "I can get that from ABC Speed Shop for half that." If they are talking about two identical products, they are being fair and reasonable. Most of the time they are comparing a crappy cast item out of china to a Billet aluminium component made locally. I don't bother explaining the obvious to them anymore, and just advise them they would be probably better going and buying the a fore mentioned product.

I don't know how guys working in Speed Shops and other forms of customer service deal with it from day to day!

Rant off!


Alan Jones
Re: WHY [Re: sixpackgut] #1040987
07/27/11 11:16 PM
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If I was going to buy something CHEAP to save $$, it wouldn't be a rack for MY car!!
Hope you don't hit the wall someday.
Don

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