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Re: Headers=starters=Big Block=B-Body [Re: meepmeep70] #1040645 07/27/11 06:32 PM 07/27/11 06:32 PM
Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,060 Pendleton NY T terzmo OP top fuel
terzmo OP top fuel T Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,060 Pendleton NY	understand...Have changed headers/starters for decades and would just like headers that don't get in the way of starters and plugs. I'm running Hi-Po stock exhausts on My Bee and for the street...why bother with headers...the only pain is #4 and #6 plugs....jack the car up...crawl under...reach up I did have a set of 2 inch hookers on My 67 B body and doing the pllugs wasn't too bad...all from the top but again,starter captured Thanks

Re: Headers=starters=Big Block=B-Body [Re: meepmeep70] #1040646 07/27/11 06:32 PM 07/27/11 06:32 PM
Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,943 San Angelo, Texas, U.S.A. 1968RR top fuel
1968RR top fuel Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,943 San Angelo, Texas, U.S.A.	What about "shorty" headers? Lots of companies make them (Hedman comes to mind). "When I'm in a slump, I comfort myself by saying if I believe in dinosaurs, then somewhere, they must be believing in me. And if they believe in me, then I can believe in me." - Mookie Wilson

Re: Headers=starters=Big Block=B-Body [Re: 1968RR] #1040647 07/27/11 06:45 PM 07/27/11 06:45 PM
Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 16,479 Canada CrAzYMoPaRGuY I Live Here
CrAzYMoPaRGuY I Live Here Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 16,479 Canada	Quote: What about "shorty" headers? Lots of companies make them (Hedman comes to mind). The Delta Motorsports headers on my Interceptor are much like a shorty header, they have awesome plug clearance and don't capture the starter. I know what terzmo means though- I had 2" CPPA headers on my 440 Demon. Spark plug boots burning was a pain in the rear, but the starter? It would melt in place, and talk about a captured starter!!! Getting a performance 2" big block header usually means pain will follow. Maybe some brands of 2" headers have less pain involved than others? CrAzYMoPaRGuY

Re: Headers=starters=Big Block=B-Body [Re: terzmo] #1040648 07/27/11 07:06 PM 07/27/11 07:06 PM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 3,054 USA B b54406barrel master
b54406barrel master B Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 3,054 USA	Quote: Quote: Sure, here you go........ http://www.summitracing.com/parts/HOK-5215-1HKR/ hmm...fenderwell headers for A body...I inquired about B They're 2" & they work on a 68 road runner way better then they worked on my 67, 440 barracuda. You had to run a mini-tire & jack it way up to clear. They're still on the 68 rr as far as I know. Easy plug changes & you can fit 2 starters up there, side by side.

Re: Headers=starters=Big Block=B-Body [Re: terzmo] #1040649 07/27/11 07:21 PM 07/27/11 07:21 PM
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 8,889 Ontario, Canada S Stanton Don't question me!
Stanton Don't question me! S Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 8,889 Ontario, Canada	Quote: The question was about 2 inch headers..anyone have them that don't capture the starter...why am I getting questions about the motor build...A body header suggestions and a the rest of somthing I didn't ask for? Either someone has em...or they don't...simple This is pretty normal around here. But don't let that discourage you !!

Re: Headers=starters=Big Block=B-Body [Re: Stanton] #1040650 07/27/11 09:03 PM 07/27/11 09:03 PM
Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,060 Pendleton NY T terzmo OP top fuel
terzmo OP top fuel T Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,060 Pendleton NY	Quote: Quote: The question was about 2 inch headers..anyone have them that don't capture the starter...why am I getting questions about the motor build...A body header suggestions and a the rest of somthing I didn't ask for? Either someone has em...or they don't...simple This is pretty normal around here. But don't let that discourage you !! It's like asking My Wife a question.........

Re: Headers=starters=Big Block=B-Body [Re: terzmo] #1040651 07/27/11 09:16 PM 07/27/11 09:16 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet
Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md	why are you so worried about the starter? it's not a GM.. it will be fine. Not sure of the part # but Hooker makes a race set that are 4 piece, but 2 tubes exit out the inner fenders. Buddy used them on his 69 coronet. If I do 2" that's the way I'm going.

Re: Headers=starters=Big Block=B-Body [Re: Mr.Yuck] #1040652 07/27/11 09:57 PM 07/27/11 09:57 PM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7,664 IN A ahy master
ahy master A Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7,664 IN	I'm running 1 7/8" TTI's on a B engine. Ed heads. Plug clearance is OK from the top. Pretty easy once I figured out which combination of wrenches to use for the tight ones. I'm running a MP BB mini starter. It fits fine but no hope of changing it without completly loosening or removing the header. I have not had any problems with the starter so it has been a non issue so far.

Re: Headers=starters=Big Block=B-Body [Re: ahy] #1040653 07/28/11 08:15 AM 07/28/11 08:15 AM
Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 5,278 San Jose, California D DennisH Vacation
DennisH Vacation D Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 5,278 San Jose, California	440. B. 850 Demon. TTI's. Mini Starter.

Re: Headers=starters=Big Block=B-Body [Re: Mr.Yuck] #1040654 07/28/11 10:23 AM 07/28/11 10:23 AM
Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,060 Pendleton NY T terzmo OP top fuel
terzmo OP top fuel T Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,060 Pendleton NY	Quote: why are you so worried about the starter? it's not a GM.. it will be fine. Not sure of the part # but Hooker makes a race set that are 4 piece, but 2 tubes exit out the inner fenders. Buddy used them on his 69 coronet. If I do 2" that's the way I'm going. duh...starters fail..

Re: Headers=starters=Big Block=B-Body [Re: terzmo] #1040655 07/28/11 11:01 AM 07/28/11 11:01 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet
Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md	Quote: Quote: why are you so worried about the starter? it's not a GM.. it will be fine. Not sure of the part # but Hooker makes a race set that are 4 piece, but 2 tubes exit out the inner fenders. Buddy used them on his 69 coronet. If I do 2" that's the way I'm going. duh...starters fail.. Then run manifolds, really no header is going to give you total easy access to the starter, it's even more of a pain if you have PS. That's why it's good idea to run as many factory ex mani studs as you can. It makes pulling the headers easier. On my last set of hedmans and Summit headers I was able to use all of the ex mani studs. This way you don't have to drain the block before you swap out a gasket or if you have to move the header. FWIW you'll have half a dozen things fail before the starter.

Re: Headers=starters=Big Block=B-Body [Re: Mr.Yuck] #1040656 07/28/11 12:48 PM 07/28/11 12:48 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,186 Wherever I am. J Junky master
Junky master J Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,186 Wherever I am.	I run Schumacher Tri-Y headers. Easy install. Doesn't trap starter. Easy access to plugs. 6750958-TriY.jpg (113 downloads) 2010 Black Challenger SE <> 3.5 V6 Custom Shift Knobs www.flameball.com Check It Out

Re: Headers=starters=Big Block=B-Body [Re: Junky] #1040657 07/28/11 01:33 PM 07/28/11 01:33 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet
Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md	Quote: I run Schumacher Tri-Y headers. Easy install. Doesn't trap starter. Easy access to plugs. Yes but if he didn't want to use 1 3/4 or 1 7/8 he won't want to use those.

Re: Headers=starters=Big Block=B-Body [Re: Junky] #1040658 07/28/11 01:59 PM 07/28/11 01:59 PM
Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,060 Pendleton NY T terzmo OP top fuel
terzmo OP top fuel T Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,060 Pendleton NY	Quote: I run Schumacher Tri-Y headers. Easy install. Doesn't trap starter. Easy access to plugs. neat...what size diameter ? I may have to compromise diameter if the starter is accessable for change

Re: Headers=starters=Big Block=B-Body [Re: terzmo] #1040659 07/28/11 02:39 PM 07/28/11 02:39 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 21,318 Manitoba, Canada DaytonaTurbo Too Many Posts
DaytonaTurbo Too Many Posts Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 21,318 Manitoba, Canada	Really how often are you going through starters that this is that big of an issue for you?

Re: Headers=starters=Big Block=B-Body [Re: DaytonaTurbo] #1040660 07/28/11 02:45 PM 07/28/11 02:45 PM
Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 16,479 Canada CrAzYMoPaRGuY I Live Here
CrAzYMoPaRGuY I Live Here Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 16,479 Canada	Quote: Really how often are you going through starters that this is that big of an issue for you? He sounds like he's worried over nothing to some, but I ate one starter per year AT LEAST with my Demon, and it was a ROYAL pain to swap starters in a 440 A body with 2" CPPAs, so I feel his pain! CrAzYMoPaRGuY

Re: Headers=starters=Big Block=B-Body [Re: DaytonaTurbo] #1040661 07/28/11 03:30 PM 07/28/11 03:30 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet
Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md	Quote: Really how often are you going through starters that this is that big of an issue for you? must be a chevy convert...those things eat starters like crazy

Re: Headers=starters=Big Block=B-Body [Re: terzmo] #1040662 07/28/11 03:36 PM 07/28/11 03:36 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,186 Wherever I am. J Junky master
Junky master J Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,186 Wherever I am.	Quote: Quote: I run Schumacher Tri-Y headers. Easy install. Doesn't trap starter. Easy access to plugs. neat...what size diameter ? I may have to compromise diameter if the starter is accessable for change IIRC, 1.58" to 2" to 2.5". Click here for the web page. 2010 Black Challenger SE <> 3.5 V6 Custom Shift Knobs www.flameball.com Check It Out

Re: Headers=starters=Big Block=B-Body [Re: DaytonaTurbo] #1040663 07/28/11 03:50 PM 07/28/11 03:50 PM
Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,060 Pendleton NY T terzmo OP top fuel
terzmo OP top fuel T Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,060 Pendleton NY	Quote: Really how often are you going through starters that this is that big of an issue for you? Why ask this question ? If someone wants a burger, do You question that with somthing else. I hate to be like this BUT if there is nothing POSITIVE to reply with...then don't....I can put all on the ignore list but I'd rather not. If it's "possible" to make things EASIER down the road, then shouldn't one take that route.

Re: Headers=starters=Big Block=B-Body [Re: terzmo] #1040664 07/28/11 05:29 PM 07/28/11 05:29 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 21,318 Manitoba, Canada DaytonaTurbo Too Many Posts
DaytonaTurbo Too Many Posts Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 21,318 Manitoba, Canada	Quote: Quote: Really how often are you going through starters that this is that big of an issue for you? Why ask this question ? If someone wants a burger, do You question that with somthing else. I hate to be like this BUT if there is nothing POSITIVE to reply with...then don't....I can put all on the ignore list but I'd rather not. If it's "possible" to make things EASIER down the road, then shouldn't one take that route. So basically then you're only looking for the answers you want to hear, not any opposing view points that should at least be considered. You should probably put me and 3/4 of the board members here on your ignore list.

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