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Re: HOLLEY 950HP VS. RACE DEMON RS TEST RESULTS!!! [Re: tex013] #1034716
07/19/11 10:41 AM
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Thanks,Tex! Even though I'm shooting for a 10.xx...don't want to run 10's consistently....for the reasons you stated! Even if I run a 10.999 just ONCE...to say I did it in my street car,I'll be a "Happy Camper"! Randy B.

Re: HOLLEY 950HP VS. RACE DEMON RS TEST RESULTS!!! [Re: tex013] #1034717
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I run a stock 950 hp, last time our in 90 degree weather, i had 84 in the back no pv and 76 in the front, that was with open headers and 18" collector extensions. Car was nearly 2/10 off my best but still managed over 128 mph, also with the new tubular control arms it was hitting the tyres a lot harder making it spin.
On the chassis dyno last year it liked 76 front and back with pv's and full exhaust but ran pb with 2 sizes up.
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best 60ft 1.36
Re: HOLLEY 950HP VS. RACE DEMON RS TEST RESULTS!!! [Re: deaks] #1034718
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Happy Birthday,Mick! Thanks for the info! Next time out to the track...when it's considerably cooler,I'll do a lot of tweaking,as far as jets sizes go. I'm still surprised it picked up 2 mph,going up 4 sizes...and in the heat! Have a good day! Randy B.

Re: HOLLEY 950HP VS. RACE DEMON RS TEST RESULTS!!! [Re: Labratt] #1034719
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Hi Randy,
Nice meeting you out at Ubly Sat. Denise spent the day getting comfortable with her RR, which was the whole point of the trip. It had been nearly 10 years since her last run down the track, plus we wanted to be sure I remembered to tighten all the bolts! once we were convinced, and she got comfortable, she did great, the times, not so much. Time to start tuning. Best of the day was 14.42 @ 93. Should be able to tune about a second out of it, plus get some more with better air. This motor was never planned to be permanent, just kept it to get her in the groove of racing again. Will spend the rest of this year playing, then put something a little faster in it over the winter. Hope to see you out there again! Brent


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Re: HOLLEY 950HP VS. RACE DEMON RS TEST RESULTS!!! [Re: TruPerformance] #1034720
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Brent..Thanks for stopping by to introduce yourself and Denise! Glad she got some seat time..especially after 10 years! Sorry I never made it over to your pit area,I was pretty busy with carb,and jet changes between my hot-lap runs. What kind of goodies do you have in the 440? I might be able to help with a spare manifold or two,if they're an improvement over what you already have. Let me know! My next time out most likely won't be until Milan Mopar Day,the saturday before Labor Day. Hope the temps are moderate then...75* or cooler! Take care,and keep getting her out and having some fun! Let me know about your intake situation!

Re: HOLLEY 950HP VS. RACE DEMON RS TEST RESULTS!!! [Re: Labratt] #1034721
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Randy my trailer has A/C and I will be at the mopar race at Milan.So if you need to cool off you know your more then welcome to step inside.

Re: HOLLEY 950HP VS. RACE DEMON RS TEST RESULTS!!! [Re: pro6pakRR] #1034722
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Thank You for the offer Chief! I won't bring the X back out to race until then! Couple of BIG cruises in August that I've been going to for years!...Woodward,and Harper..in St. Clair Shores! Both GREAT events!

Re: HOLLEY 950HP VS. RACE DEMON RS TEST RESULTS!!! [Re: Labratt] #1034723
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Harper..in St. Clair Shores!




When is this?

Re: HOLLEY 950HP VS. RACE DEMON RS TEST RESULTS!!! [Re: BSB67] #1034724
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Hi,Russ! The Harper Cruise is scheduled for Wednesday,Aug. 31st! Will you be in town for it? It's "officially" 5pm-9pm...but people start setting up,and cruise early! I've been down there at 9am..and quite a few people were already there! Hope you can make it...LOTS OF FUN!!!

Re: HOLLEY 950HP VS. RACE DEMON RS TEST RESULTS!!! [Re: Labratt] #1034725
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That's a beautiful car you've got there Randy, dont ever change it you'll spoil it.
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Re: HOLLEY 950HP VS. RACE DEMON RS TEST RESULTS!!! [Re: deaks] #1034726
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Thanks,Sheriff!..uh,Mick! I've had a LOT of fun...and met a lot of good people,because of the ole' GTX! I have been wanting to paint it a dark red for years,but the funding has been hard to come by! Maybe I'll hit the lottery one of these years! All in all,if I didn't have the X to tinker with...I'd be BORED TO DEATH! Take care,my friend! Randy B.

Re: HOLLEY 950HP VS. RACE DEMON RS TEST RESULTS!!! [Re: Labratt] #1034727
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No. We'll be up the first week in August. A few years ago we came up about this time of year. Had to get off at Telegraph as they were working on I-75. It was about midnight when we hit Taylor, I believe, and there was a really big cruise going on. Guys cruisin with slicks, burnouts going on regularly, people lining the street partying, for miles, most parking lots full of cars and people. My kids have never seen anything like it and thought it was cool. We've done the MtClemens thing a few years ago, but it was nothing like the Taylor thing

Re: HOLLEY 950HP VS. RACE DEMON RS TEST RESULTS!!! [Re: BSB67] #1034728
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Russ...must have been the Telegraph Cruise,which I've never been to! They do tend to get quite a bit CRAZIER on the west side! NO WAY would the east side municipalities let a cruise carry on at midnight! Taylor has ALWAYS been a little on the WILD SIDE!...gotta LOVE it!

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Russ...must have been the Telegraph Cruise,which I've never been to! They do tend to get quite a bit CRAZIER on the west side! NO WAY would the east side municipalities let a cruise carry on at midnight! Taylor has ALWAYS been a little on the WILD SIDE!...gotta LOVE it!




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Re: HOLLEY 950HP VS. RACE DEMON RS TEST RESULTS!!! [Re: Labratt] #1034730
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Russ...must have been the Telegraph Cruise,which I've never been to! They do tend to get quite a bit CRAZIER on the west side! NO WAY would the east side municipalities let a cruise carry on at midnight! Taylor has ALWAYS been a little on the WILD SIDE!...gotta LOVE it!





TELEGRAPH CRUISE IS TOMORROW Randy, in case you're interested.....


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We'll be coming up tomorrow. Maybe we'll drop the boat and come back down to Telegraph.

Re: HOLLEY 950HP VS. RACE DEMON RS TEST RESULTS!!! [Re: BSB67] #1034732
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Thanks,Doug!...but I've got a couple of graduation parties to attend tomorrow! Hope you and Russ have fun!

Re: HOLLEY 950HP VS. RACE DEMON RS TEST RESULTS!!! [Re: Labratt] #1034733
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The Demon is set up w/ 1.425" sleeves in their "825" config, although BG stated back when the Gold Claws were released originally that this configuration flowed 980 cfm @ 1.5" (standard 4-bbl rating pressure). I picked it up from a board vendor a couple of years ago as a "race ready" low-use piece, which turned out to have been a bit effed up and required some parts to be sent back to BG to be fixed.

Since Randy wasn't sure what type of carb he wanted to run w/ his GTX, I offered to let him test w/ it. I'd set it up for the expected conditions based on his input and IIRC the only thing he changed was going from .035 to .040 squirter size.

Randy - I never asked you if the Bigs "950" is an original Holley 80496 tuned by Bigs (1.375" venturi) or one of the carbs they sell w/ the Proform "950" main body that has a 1.450" venturi. Do you know?

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Re: HOLLEY 950HP VS. RACE DEMON RS TEST RESULTS!!! [Re: BradH] #1034734
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FWIW, here's the specs on the Demon. There are some key differences from how this model came from BG, if you have the stock specs to compare against.

Pri jet - 78
Sec jet - 88
PV - 3.5
Pri & Sec nozzles - .035 w/ hi-flow screws (Randy changed to .040)
IFR - .035
IAB - .070
MAB - .026

I installed a .213" bleed jet in the baseplate, which is about the same area as having drilled the butterflies w/ .110" holes.

Emulsion circuits in the metering blocks: .028 / plugged / .028 / plugged / plugged

Idle mixture adjustments were 1.5 turns out on the primary side and slightly more than 1 full turn out on the secondary; IIRC, Randy opened up the secondaries to 1.5, also.

Re: HOLLEY 950HP VS. RACE DEMON RS TEST RESULTS!!! [Re: BradH] #1034735
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Hey,Brad! According to Russ,the Holley has a 1.375" venturi..supposedly flows 870 cfm.

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