Borg/beck or diaphragm clutch?
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07/14/11 09:47 PM
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I'm at the point that I need a clutch for my 4 speed Mirada awap, but I'm still not decided on what type of clutch to get. When I put the pedals in a couple of weeks ago I left the over center spring on because I thought I might go for the B&B, but I don't think I ever drove a car with one and I'm wondering how hard they are to release? 90% of the time I'm just going to be putting around town, so there will be a lot more stop and go driving than 6k power shifts. What does everyone like? I also heard I can leave the over center spring in with a diaphragm if I rig up a clutch pedal stop so it doesn't stick to the floor?
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Re: Borg/beck or diaphragm clutch?
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07/15/11 01:20 AM
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kilroy
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Diaphragms are for girls, use a three figured plate. Seriously they give me a better clutch feel.
1973 Charger, former SE, former auto
I'm not trying to be difficult, it comes naturally....
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Re: Borg/beck or diaphragm clutch?
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07/15/11 01:58 PM
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I ran McCleod B&B for probally 25 years.Went with Center Force dual friction last time.The pedal pressure is super light and it shifts just as good as the B&B did at 6700.Its been in for 6 years and no problems.Rocky
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Re: Borg/beck or diaphragm clutch?
[Re: In_The_Pink]
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07/15/11 02:55 PM
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Out of curiosity, what are you using for a floor hump? I would like to see some pics of the hump installed, too. :
The pedals and hump I have are out of a '77 Volare. At least that's what the seller told me. I don't have the hump secured to the floor yet, but it seems to fit perfectly. I'm not sure if I'm going to weld it or just use screws.
I figured the Volare pedals and bracket would be a bolt in, but when I tried it in the car the the "ears" on the end that bolt up to the column support bracket were about an inch too short. I had to swap the pedals and spring bracket over to the Mirada piece but it all fit fine.
The hole for the clutch pushrod is already in the firewall too, it just has a grommet in it.
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Re: Borg/beck or diaphragm clutch?
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07/15/11 05:51 PM
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FYI, be careful a lot of diaphragm clutches will not work with the over-center spring. Test first with engine off!!!! Even without the over-center spring and a diaphragm the pedal will be light light.
I personally dont like diaphragm because I think the release in more a parabolic curve aspect. (nothing nothing nothing then release); where as a three fingered clutch (long, or BB) is more linear and feels the same through out the pedal.
1973 Charger, former SE, former auto
I'm not trying to be difficult, it comes naturally....
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Re: Borg/beck or diaphragm clutch?
[Re: kilroy]
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07/17/11 12:56 PM
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I'm running a centerforce dual friction in my 77 pickup. I modified the pivot point so the pedal travels further and have had no problems with going overcenter. I think I got lucky though as I never knew it was an issue. I had a hays bb clutch that broke two of the three pivot arms and I had to start it in gear and shift without the clutch to get it home. Not a big deal out in the country, but I was in the big city when it happened I've concluded it was a cheap clutch, but the even cheaper Ram clutches I had used up to that point lasted better. Now my centerforce has been on four engines and is still going strong. (disclaimer: only one of the engines failed, I get bored easily)
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