Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Patriot H8207 BB headers? 1 7/8" vs 1 3/4" #1025968
07/04/11 08:54 PM
07/04/11 08:54 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 20,853
A collage of whims
topside Offline OP
Too Many Posts
topside  Offline OP
Too Many Posts

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 20,853
A collage of whims
Anyone running these? 1 7/8" into 3" full headers, looks like no flange on collector (no big deal to add), look to be pretty equal length, and only $252.95 from Summit.
Need some headers for the '64 Savoy 440 project, and I'm thinking 1 3/4" primaries are too small; even though they're half this price, I'm thinking they'd be a big restriction. The other side of that is this thing needs torque to move, as it'll only have 3.91s, 3000RPM stall, 28" tire.
448", Stealths, will run 3" or 2.5" exhaust.
Whaddya think?

Re: Patriot H8207 BB headers? 1 7/8" vs 1 3/4" [Re: topside] #1025969
07/05/11 03:58 AM
07/05/11 03:58 AM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 20,853
A collage of whims
topside Offline OP
Too Many Posts
topside  Offline OP
Too Many Posts

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 20,853
A collage of whims
Bump for the "Dawn Patrol"

Re: Patriot H8207 BB headers? 1 7/8" vs 1 3/4" [Re: topside] #1025970
07/05/11 04:13 AM
07/05/11 04:13 AM
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 2,141
junction city oregon
V
viperblue72 Offline
top fuel
viperblue72  Offline
top fuel
V

Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 2,141
junction city oregon
I think 1 3/4 would work fine but 1 7/8 would be a little better.

Re: Patriot H8207 BB headers? 1 7/8" vs 1 3/4" [Re: viperblue72] #1025971
07/05/11 10:45 AM
07/05/11 10:45 AM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 27,421
Balt. Md
3
383man Offline
Too Many Posts
383man  Offline
Too Many Posts
3

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 27,421
Balt. Md
I had the Hedman 1-3/4 Elite headers on my old 440 and they worked good on that mild combo. You know it ran a best of 11.49. It was .030 over 440 with 906 heads and the MP .557 cam. I never tried a bigger tube but they seemed fine for that combo. Ron

Re: Patriot H8207 BB headers? 1 7/8" vs 1 3/4" [Re: topside] #1025972
07/05/11 11:07 AM
07/05/11 11:07 AM
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 52,972
Romeo MI
MR_P_BODY Offline
Master
MR_P_BODY  Offline
Master

Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 52,972
Romeo MI
Quote:

Anyone running these? 1 7/8" into 3" full headers, looks like no flange on collector (no big deal to add), look to be pretty equal length, and only $252.95 from Summit.
Need some headers for the '64 Savoy 440 project, and I'm thinking 1 3/4" primaries are too small; even though they're half this price, I'm thinking they'd be a big restriction. The other side of that is this thing needs torque to move, as it'll only have 3.91s, 3000RPM stall, 28" tire.
448", Stealths, will run 3" or 2.5" exhaust.
Whaddya think?




I would assume the engine isnt stock... so in that
case I would go with the 1 7/8" with the 3"(which
is small for a collector on that size tube) and run
a 3" exhaust back to the muff then 2 1/2" tail pipes
if running them........ OR cut the 3" collectors off
and weld on 3 1/2" collectors and run the 3" exhaust
to the muff and disconnect the exhaust for the track
but have a collector of 16" to 18" when the exhaust
is off

Re: Patriot H8207 BB headers? 1 7/8" vs 1 3/4" [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1025973
07/05/11 12:18 PM
07/05/11 12:18 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 20,853
A collage of whims
topside Offline OP
Too Many Posts
topside  Offline OP
Too Many Posts

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 20,853
A collage of whims
The car will always run through mufflers: this is the drive-it-to-the-track-and-back car. I figure the 3" collector & exhaust should be OK, has an X-pipe & Dynomax bullets, will do turn-downs at rear axle initially.
The car certainly doesn't need to run 11s like Ron's - at least not unless I get greedy later! - but I want to make the best of what I have, given the relatively tall gear & low stall.
I would think someone's running the Patriot headers, with as many 440/B-body cars there are, but then again I didn't know they existed until yesterday, either. Curious also about fit vs. the cheaper Hedman and Summit 1 3/4".

Re: Patriot H8207 BB headers? 1 7/8" vs 1 3/4" [Re: topside] #1025974
07/05/11 01:19 PM
07/05/11 01:19 PM
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 5,160
Texas
dannysbee Offline
master
dannysbee  Offline
master

Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 5,160
Texas
What about plug tires on that passenger side. Looks a little intimidating. Plus you will have too put a late K and build a transmission mount in your car to use them.


Getting old just means you were smarter than some and luckier than others.
Re: Patriot H8207 BB headers? 1 7/8" vs 1 3/4" [Re: dannysbee] #1025975
07/05/11 01:44 PM
07/05/11 01:44 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 20,853
A collage of whims
topside Offline OP
Too Many Posts
topside  Offline OP
Too Many Posts

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 20,853
A collage of whims
Looks to me like 2,4, & 6 wires can run under, 8 over the valve cover.
Far as I know, the early B K-frame isn't an issue; seems nobody lists headers for the pre-'66 cars, but plenty of guys are running them. When I search Summit's site for '64 headers, the usual Hedmans, Doug's & Hookers are shown, even though most descriptions in print start with '66. The Patriots aren't shown for '64s, though.

Re: Patriot H8207 BB headers? 1 7/8" vs 1 3/4" [Re: topside] #1025976
07/05/11 01:52 PM
07/05/11 01:52 PM
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 5,160
Texas
dannysbee Offline
master
dannysbee  Offline
master

Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 5,160
Texas
Better look close, some will some will not. Hooker super comps for a 66 up will not fit a 62-65 car. The engine is further forward in the early car and steering box will interfere with number 1 tube. That is also the reason you cant just use any oil pan on a 62-65.


Getting old just means you were smarter than some and luckier than others.






Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.1