Re: PT cruiser drivability help
[Re: Blown71X]
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06/17/11 07:17 PM
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therocks
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Ive been doing it for over 30 years.There are some parts that we get dealer only.I have opened a lot of parts store boxes and had the new parts stamped Mopar, Delco etc.We used a lot of factory sensors and a lot of aftermarket as well.Wells was one we had problems with the most.I have a new water pump from Advanced on my Concord.Opened their box and it had Mopar stamp and Nos on the pump.Rocky
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Re: PT cruiser drivability help
[Re: Blown71X]
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06/18/11 10:04 AM
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rick, oe manufactures nothin , not one part, !! i dont care whos it is !! these are facts, these parts come in most are reboxed and resold out to various other box names who need the parts more, mopar is a stamped name on the same water pump ASC is the co dont car whos box its in ! you can get bad in any box , at anytime, when items are mass produced the chaces are greater that you will see more defective peices, most mechanics do live in the past they still believe that that certain auto co actually produce their own parts, when they barley produce the car itself, 
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Re: PT cruiser drivability help
[Re: dennismopar73]
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06/18/11 11:15 AM
06/18/11 11:15 AM
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Dcuda69
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rick, oe manufactures nothin , not one part, !!
i dont care whos it is !!
these are facts, these parts come in most are reboxed and resold out to various other box names who need the parts more,
mopar is a stamped name on the same water pump ASC is the co
dont car whos box its in !
you can get bad in any box , at anytime, when items are mass produced
the chaces are greater that you will see more defective peices,
most mechanics do live in the past they still believe that that certain auto co actually produce their own parts, when they barley produce the car itself,
If a guy with many years experience working on these things says he sees a lot of problems with aftermarket stuff,I'm going to believe him!(I've seen my share also,30 yr.tech)What I won't do is tell him he's living in the past and doesn't know what he's talking about!!
Next we'll all sit around and wonder why there is no good tech advice here anymore 
Well done 
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Re: PT cruiser drivability help
[Re: Dcuda69]
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06/18/11 12:13 PM
06/18/11 12:13 PM
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dennismopar73
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What I won't do is tell him he's living in the past and doesn't know what he's talking about!! Next we'll all sit around and wonder why there is no good tech advice here anymore Well done
never said he knew nothin, after 30 years he better know something!!
what i did say, was most mech live in the past thinking that their parts they are getting from the dealer are diffrent than what is being sold in the parts store ,, THAT IS SIMPLY PUT BS , they are the same part, same manufacture,
change is hard for anyone but it has happened ,
as for advice if he or she has their feelings laying on thier shoulder , need new line of work ,
most mechanics that are now comming out of the stable are mear parts changers at best!! and thats what they get taught.
if O E make you feel better , then use O E ,dont come out here and say O E is a diffrent part !! 
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Re: PT cruiser drivability help
[Re: stumpy]
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06/18/11 05:28 PM
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dennismopar73
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same no dif you can get bad or good , throw of the dice, if you get a chance to go and tour the big facility in new jersey like i did, and talk to reps there , then you become informed consumer i even got to see the returns that where suppose to be defects, 85 percent( as of 1 year ago) of their returns that where defect where put on the same analisis machine as new devises, and checked out to be normal working pieces,no defect, they where then destroyed , which eventually make the cost of doing buisness cost more. he manager of the site and field rep said ,there are no seconds,or blems, if found there is a issue it is pulled from the line and the issue gets resolved , the most issue they see on the defective returns are misdiagnosed issue and improper installed issues 
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Re: PT cruiser drivability help
[Re: stumpy]
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06/24/11 11:07 PM
06/24/11 11:07 PM
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moretoys
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I put a new mopar part in and that seemed too fix the problem,vehicle came in with a new aftermarket part.I replaced it with a new aftermarket part.Did not know at the time.(customers sure don't help with info)someone replaced the part and harness,had code,I replaced part not knowing about the replacement,same code BUT ran bad.after checking,wiring,timeing belt etc Just got a bad standard motor product part.I have gotten more defective parts in the past year than previous 5 combined.  I have gotten standard parts before and it has chrysler # stamped in the part,I have gotten An ac delco fuel pump for a dodge truck(cheaper and better warranty than a carter @ the time)Opened the box and it had a carter part inside.Some brands I won't even consider.standard green box-junk,wells-always a come back.the list is getting longer.various lower $$ front end parts don't take grease when installed.(love doing that twice)  Thanks,oem part solved this issue.
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Re: PT cruiser drivability help
[Re: Dcuda69]
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06/25/11 06:15 AM
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383man
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rick, oe manufactures nothin , not one part, !!
i dont care whos it is !!
these are facts, these parts come in most are reboxed and resold out to various other box names who need the parts more,
mopar is a stamped name on the same water pump ASC is the co
dont car whos box its in !
you can get bad in any box , at anytime, when items are mass produced
the chaces are greater that you will see more defective peices,
most mechanics do live in the past they still believe that that certain auto co actually produce their own parts, when they barley produce the car itself,
If a guy with many years experience working on these things says he sees a lot of problems with aftermarket stuff,I'm going to believe him!(I've seen my share also,30 yr.tech)What I won't do is tell him he's living in the past and doesn't know what he's talking about!!
Next we'll all sit around and wonder why there is no good tech advice here anymore
Well done
I have been on this board for at least 10 years and I have talked to and seen alot of Rick's post. We have discussed problems before as we have both been Mopar dealer techs for years. And I can tell you he is no parts replacing mechanic he is a tech and knows what he is talking about. I can tell as we have spoke to each other before and when I talk to a tech who actually knows what the voltage readings should be on all 3 wires of a cam or crank sensor then I know this guy test the circuits to see what is bad. Most techs I talk to dont even know how many of the parts actually work so they cant test the circuit they just try a part but that is not Rick as he is a tech. I have to agree with him as I have had my share of bad aftermarket parts over the years. They may be better now but OEM and aftermarket have not always been the same part. I can tell you for sure as I found out on a Mopar ECU ign box a few years back. The ECU was blue like a factory one but it had no Mopar label on it but it sure looked like a Mopar ECU. Anyway the internal circuits were different as I found out after testing the internal pick-up coil circuit on the ECU and the factory one would only work hooked up the correct way and the aftermarket would not. My point being the OEM and aftermarket are not always the same part. I have seen it myself and I have also seen Rick give alot of good tech advise on here and respect his opinion.
Oh and I think I have you both beat as I have been full time tech for 37 years and am fully certified and a Mopar master tech. Just have some respect for other techs opinions as you might learn something.  Ron
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Re: PT cruiser drivability help
[Re: 383man]
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06/25/11 08:38 AM
06/25/11 08:38 AM
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therocks
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Ron I agree with you.Ive had new parts bad both OE and aftermarket.WE usually use aftermarket as most times quality is good.But some stuff we strictly went dealer.Standard we used a lot and really had no problems.But like I said Ive had parts bad new from both after market and OE.Rocky
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