Always had crotch rocket type, but that all changed in 2005 when my Dad bought this new. I thru a leg over it in 2006 when he came to visit, immediately understood the HD thing and bought a Road King. The Road King is gone now and so is my Dad but I have his old 2005 Dyna that will hopefully give my son in law or grandson some day. This one has 56k on it now, a few more cubes, bigger cam and a bit of compression.