Doug if you are referring to my comment about the Indy crossram I am by no means knocking it. I just used it as one of the things most NSS clubs let you run that don't look like the factory intake. Heck most of the NSS cars don't run an intake that looks like the original factory intake. I am by no means knocking the Indy crossram as I know most serious NSS racers use it that run the Mopar wedge eng and its great because it makes more power then the 60 year old crossram. I am just saying how many clubs don't push the rules to the limit. Honestly to me its more important for the outside of the car to have the NSS look then the eng because that's what everyone see when you go down the track. Believe me I am not knocking the Indy crossram or anyone who use it I just used it as one thing that is legal but don't look like the original factory intake. I did not mean to get anyone fired up about it. Ron