will be interested in seeing your results. i always thought those were just a "trick of the week" gimmick, so i never coughed up the bux to try a set. please don't think for one second i'm slamming you john ! it would be neat to do an A-B-A test on those if possible. please post your results. i will freely admit i am a "poopyhead" if you have success, right here before GOD and country !