gene thank you for the reply my issue is the truck has no sticker and the book says to look at it for timing ....the other is I do not know what the capacity is of the trucks oil pan is if anyone can help me I d it I can then fill it a quart short and find the stick hat matches just not sure how much is a quart low 4. or 5. quarts to start with??? not sure i'm describing issue right thanks again for the response