Finally some good news, I got one out and the other very close. I can rock it back and forth with a vise grip and a towel around it by hand. It's getting hung up on the back where it's supposed to come out. I can feel a slight metal ridge in a couple spots. I need to find a way to gring out some of the metal around the opening. This celebration will be brief, my other ongoing mission is the upper ball joints. I'm trying to borrow a impact driver, and hopefully my wimpy compressor will be up to the job. Thanks, for all your tips and suggestions, I'm not sure which one did it, and maybe even a combination. Now I need to find a way to get this PB Blaster oder off me.
Jim