Thanks for the responses I'm running a 904, is there anything I can check on it?, Front pump or something?, Hashing it out in my brain I might have a bit to much trans fluid in trans,i need to check that although no fluid is coming out anywhere.I have -6 an fittings for trans lines, checked for kinks and don't see any. the converter does float freely on crank, weird situation volare I hate to buy another converter,what amount of spacing do you have?. what I don't get is I was running trans with stock 360 and never had a issue. Thanks again guys.