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thanks for the information Mr P. That is heavy stuff. I am going .134 wall for the tubing. Any idea what 1 3/4 .135 wall weighs a foot ?

Hoop and down bars around 18 feet total. Close to 40 lbs I guess less the weight the lighter wieght of the 1 5/8 tubing of the rest of the cage.

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2.328 lbs/ft for 1 3/4 .135 wall. Heres what I use
for the weight


http://www.steel-pipes-tubes.com/steel-pipe-weight-calculator.html