I installed a Just Dashes pad on my 70 Challenger, and an Ultimate Rides pad on my 73. The JD pad is definitely puffy around the vin tag area, and doubt you could use the VIN rivets that ECS sells, they are too short. The VIN rivets I purchased from the e-body section here on moparts are longer and worked fine. Other than puffy around the VIN tag, I'm satisfied with the JD pad. The UR pad is the wrong color, dark grey instead of black, and had numerous rounded folds in the vinyl around the opening of the rallye gauge opening. I would say that I was around 70% happy with UR, and around 90% happy with the JD pad. The JD pad also came back with a new speaker grill, and Challenger emblem, and 100% ready for install, meaning no extra vinyl needed to be cut. The UR pad need extra vinyl to be cut, aka dash pad circumcision, and you need to be extra careful with the knife. The JD pad was probably around 25% more money than the UR, but included the speaker cover, and dash emblem.