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Re: 1200 Horsepower options? [Re: cuda499] #2978980 10/27/21 04:58 PM 10/27/21 04:58 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,097 Bend,OR USA C Cab_Burge I Win
Cab_Burge I Win C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,097 Bend,OR USA	As far as happy scales and engine and chassis dyno, if they are NOT calibrated correctly they are not giving you correct information , been there and had that done to me several times I've seen many engine dyno rooms have test room have positive air pressure inside of them due to the inlet fan for outside air flow more CFM than the exhaust fans did resulting in positive pressure in the dyno cell Talk about phony results due to the positive inside pressure, it is just like adding 1 to 3 Lb. boost to the motors Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)

Re: 1200 Horsepower options? [Re: cuda499] #2979196 10/28/21 10:24 AM 10/28/21 10:24 AM
Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 4,562 Motor City 6 6PKRTSE master
6PKRTSE master 6 Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 4,562 Motor City	There are alot of single cell happy dyno's out there for sure. As mentioned the track will tell for sure. All 42 of our dyno rooms are SAE calibrated and certified for all of our OEM and prototype development we do, so I know when we dyno engines are numbers are true. 1963 Belvedere 440 Max Wedge Tribute 1970 Charger R/T S.E. 440 Six Pack 1970 Challenger R/T, 528 Hemi 1970 Charger 500 S.E. 440 4 BBL 1970 Plymouth Road Runner 383 1974 Chrysler New Yorker 440 1996 2500 RAM 488 V-10 4X4 2004 3500 Dually Cummins 4x4 2012 Challenger R/T Classic.

Re: 1200 Horsepower options? [Re: n20mstr] #2979805 10/30/21 08:34 AM 10/30/21 08:34 AM
Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 295 Greensburg, Pa M Mpetros OP enthusiast
Mpetros OP enthusiast M Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 295 Greensburg, Pa	Has to be a Carb No injection

Re: 1200 Horsepower options? [Re: Mpetros] #2979809 10/30/21 08:49 AM 10/30/21 08:49 AM
Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 295 Greensburg, Pa M Mpetros OP enthusiast
Mpetros OP enthusiast M Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 295 Greensburg, Pa	Here is the Rules

Re: 1200 Horsepower options? [Re: Mpetros] #2979813 10/30/21 08:55 AM 10/30/21 08:55 AM
Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 295 Greensburg, Pa M Mpetros OP enthusiast
Mpetros OP enthusiast M Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 295 Greensburg, Pa	You are allowed a aluminum block, But I want to stay with Iron. Just the time I build a aluminum block they probably will change the rule to iron

Re: 1200 Horsepower options? [Re: Mpetros] #2979886 10/30/21 12:39 PM 10/30/21 12:39 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 19,355 Las Vegas Al_Alguire I Live Here
Al_Alguire I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 19,355 Las Vegas	No weight rule or minimum? "I am not ashamed to confess I am ignorant of what I do not know." "It's never wrong to do the right thing"

Re: 1200 Horsepower options? [Re: Al_Alguire] #2979988 10/30/21 05:50 PM 10/30/21 05:50 PM
Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 3,097 back in Georgia dthemi master
dthemi master Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 3,097 back in Georgia	Don't know if I fully understand this, but if factory BS is at play, no better option than a big Ford. A thor headed ford, would dominate any manufacturer. Chevy and mope would be way behind if there is something other than just anything goes. For a mope, I still haven't seen anything better than a good set of predators. Better than any hemi NA that I've seen so far. I've been playing with a pair of mechanical injected blown hemis in two cars, and have let my predator motors languish. I'm building a 4.9 bs noonan and having the second frame rail added to my stratus to deal with it. My plan is to take the 660 nitrous predator in it now, and make it NA single 4 over the winter using a get'm carb. I'll post progress as it goes. What is this class you guys are talking about called?

Re: 1200 Horsepower options? [Re: dthemi] #2979990 10/30/21 05:59 PM 10/30/21 05:59 PM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,149 PA. pittsburghracer "Little"John
pittsburghracer "Little"John Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,149 PA.	Originally Posted by dthemi Don't know if I fully understand this, but if factory BS is at play, no better option than a big Ford. A thor headed ford, would dominate any manufacturer. Chevy and mope would be way behind if there is something other than just anything goes. For a mope, I still haven't seen anything better than a good set of predators. Better than any hemi NA that I've seen so far. I've been playing with a pair of mechanical injected blown hemis in two cars, and have let my predator motors languish. I'm building a 4.9 bs noonan and having the second frame rail added to my stratus to deal with it. My plan is to take the 660 nitrous predator in it now, and make it NA single 4 over the winter using a get'm carb. I'll post progress as it goes. What is this class you guys are talking about called? He has a pulling truck. 1970 Duster Edelbrock headed 408 5.984@112.52 422 Indy headed small block 5.982@112.56 mph 9.42@138.27 Livin and lovin life one day at a time

Re: 1200 Horsepower options? [Re: dthemi] #2980041 10/30/21 08:37 PM 10/30/21 08:37 PM
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Mpetros OP enthusiast M Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 295 Greensburg, Pa	Look up Undertaker Pulling on You Tube. Appalachian Outlaw or Super Street. I have a Yellow Dodge. The class has lots of Professional Engines, Oakley, BES, Steve Schmidt

Re: 1200 Horsepower options? [Re: Mpetros] #2980148 10/31/21 09:59 AM 10/31/21 09:59 AM
Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 295 Greensburg, Pa M Mpetros OP enthusiast
Mpetros OP enthusiast M Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 295 Greensburg, Pa	It's tough when you diehard Mopar knowing that this stuff's available to your competition for this kind of price

Re: 1200 Horsepower options? [Re: Mpetros] #2980260 10/31/21 02:56 PM 10/31/21 02:56 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 30,989 Oregon A AndyF I Win
AndyF I Win A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 30,989 Oregon	Yep, that is a good deal. We just paid more than $30K for a 572 Mopar wedge long block and it won't make anything close to 1200 hp. For $30K you can probably get a cast iron 572 Mopar wedge with 572-13 heads that will make 1000 hp. I don't think you can build a 1200 hp Mopar for $30K using all new parts.

Re: 1200 Horsepower options? [Re: birdtracker] #2987948 11/22/21 06:31 PM 11/22/21 06:31 PM
Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 295 Greensburg, Pa M Mpetros OP enthusiast
Mpetros OP enthusiast M Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 295 Greensburg, Pa	Is there one advantage over another to use a wedge or a hemi block with a Predator head? Is one way or another better or easier with reliability

Re: 1200 Horsepower options? [Re: Mpetros] #2987993 11/22/21 07:58 PM 11/22/21 07:58 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 19,355 Las Vegas Al_Alguire I Live Here
Al_Alguire I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 19,355 Las Vegas	Hemi pattern heads are a bit better some believe. We have had Slawko do both and didn't see any difference. "I am not ashamed to confess I am ignorant of what I do not know." "It's never wrong to do the right thing"

Re: 1200 Horsepower options? [Re: Mpetros] #2988024 11/22/21 09:22 PM 11/22/21 09:22 PM
Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 4,205 New York polyspheric master
polyspheric master Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 4,205 New York	Hate to point this out, but the BBC and BBF (FF, 385) are not wedge engines. Boffin Emeritus

Re: 1200 Horsepower options? [Re: Al_Alguire] #2988096 11/23/21 02:34 AM 11/23/21 02:34 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,135 Melbourne , Australia LA360 master
LA360 master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,135 Melbourne , Australia	If you ever went the billet block route, Hemi blocks would be more readily available. Alan Jones

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