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Offset head dowels for BB? Minimum radial valve clearance? #1964471
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Two related questions:
1. Does anyone sell (or can make?) offset cylinder head dowels for BB Mopars? I think for BBs they're only .250" OD, and the smallest offset dowels I see listed anywhere are ~ .310" for SBM / SBC.

2. What is the recommended minimum radial valve clearance (clearance between edge of valve and valve relief in piston)?

Thanks,
Brad

Re: Offset head dowels for BB? Minimum radial valve clearance? [Re: BradH] #1964473
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I dont know about the BB dowls.. but on the radial
clearance I have been as low as .030 but normal is .050
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Re: Offset head dowels for BB? Minimum radial valve clearance? [Re: BradH] #1964518
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Originally Posted By BradH
Two related questions:
1. Does anyone sell (or can make?) offset cylinder head dowels for BB Mopars? I think for BBs they're only .250" OD, and the smallest offset dowels I see listed anywhere are ~ .310" for SBM / SBC.

2. What is the recommended minimum radial valve clearance (clearance between edge of valve and valve relief in piston)?

Thanks,
Brad


The offset dowels are easy to make with an offset jig on a surface grinder.

My surface grinder is down right now or I could make them for you. I am replacing my old manual one with a hydraulic unit but am rebuilding it before I put it in service. I am a month or two away from finishing it.


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Re: Offset head dowels for BB? Minimum radial valve clearance? [Re: BradH] #1964905
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These say they are for a Mopar big block...

Your milage may vary...

http://proshop.summitracing.com///search...ar-big-block-rb

Re: Offset head dowels for BB? Minimum radial valve clearance? [Re: BradH] #1964926
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I was thinking bbc was the same. I have a friend that has made the offset dowl pins. One thing to remember is at some point you have to enlarge the bolt holes also. If I was going for optimum performance I would sonic check the block and cnc the cylinder bores as high as possible along with the offset dowels.


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Re: Offset head dowels for BB? Minimum radial valve clearance? [Re: BradH] #1964940
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you have to enlarge the bolt holes

X2 - with the dowels in place you want the bolts to slip into the head with effort.


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Re: Offset head dowels for BB? Minimum radial valve clearance? [Re: dannysbee] #1964993
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Originally Posted By dannysbee
I was thinking bbc was the same. I have a friend that has made the offset dowl pins. One thing to remember is at some point you have to enlarge the bolt holes also. If I was going for optimum performance I would sonic check the block and cnc the cylinder bores as high as possible along with the offset dowels.
BB chevy are no where near the same as the ones on our B, RB and gen2 hemi motor, they won't work tsk


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Re: Offset head dowels for BB? Minimum radial valve clearance? [Re: BradH] #1965004
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Couldn't you just move the dowel holes? I think I remember reading that in RAMM's EMC 2013 470 B stroker thread. That was a bit more trick though with the heavy angle milling, moving .100, elongating and spot facing for the head bolts.

Re: Offset head dowels for BB? Minimum radial valve clearance? [Re: CTD5.9] #1965124
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a quick and easy small movement of the head is to use a drift on the dowel and little smack with a hammer.moved a lot hemi heads that way.

Re: Offset head dowels for BB? Minimum radial valve clearance? [Re: BradH] #1965130
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Brad.. when you do find your off set pins make sure
they set down flat on the block without the gasket..
I've been there before when the head didnt
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Re: Offset head dowels for BB? Minimum radial valve clearance? [Re: BradH] #2647089
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Originally Posted by BradH
Two related questions:
1. Does anyone sell (or can make?) offset cylinder head dowels for BB Mopars? I think for BBs they're only .250" OD, and the smallest offset dowels I see listed anywhere are ~ .310" for SBM / SBC.

2. What is the recommended minimum radial valve clearance (clearance between edge of valve and valve relief in piston)?

Thanks,
Brad


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