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8 Speed AT in 1970 Charger

Posted By: DANA60

8 Speed AT in 1970 Charger - 06/26/21 02:58 PM

I've done the Gen 3 conversions with the Tremec 6 speeds before, not hard at all. Now in my newest project, a Hellcat with a 8 speed trans. Who makes the trans mount conversion? Any other pitfalls I need to need about?
Posted By: roadrunninMark

Re: 8 Speed AT in 1970 Charger - 06/26/21 05:57 PM

Holley has the trans mounts. Not sure on pitfalls other than tunnel clearance and the usual driveshaft conversion stuff
Posted By: SRT6776

Re: 8 Speed AT in 1970 Charger - 06/27/21 05:34 AM

Posted By: furious70

Re: 8 Speed AT in 1970 Charger - 06/28/21 03:02 AM

boy that was a lot of work. Holley makes it sound like you just cut out the cross member and use their system, not all that tunnel work.
Posted By: 1972CudaV21

Re: 8 Speed AT in 1970 Charger - 06/28/21 08:49 AM

Originally Posted by furious70
boy that was a lot of work. Holley makes it sound like you just cut out the cross member and use their system, not all that tunnel work.


True, and I wouldn’t want to cut up a Mopar like that unless it’s a low-dollar car.
Posted By: furious70

Re: 8 Speed AT in 1970 Charger - 06/29/21 12:50 AM

I'd hate to be the guy that did all that work to that car and youtubed it if you really can just cut out the cross member and use the holley mount:

https://www.holley.com/products/eng...ine_and_transmission_mounts/parts/BHS539

they only have this for B bodies so far for some reason.
Posted By: A990

Re: 8 Speed AT in 1970 Charger - 06/29/21 03:24 AM

Originally Posted by furious70
I'd hate to be the guy that did all that work to that car and youtubed it if you really can just cut out the cross member and use the holley mount:

https://www.holley.com/products/eng...ine_and_transmission_mounts/parts/BHS539

they only have this for B bodies 68-70 Chargers so far for some reason.
Posted By: SRT6776

Re: 8 Speed AT in 1970 Charger - 06/29/21 11:11 AM

I think there's a point when if you want all this stuff, you should just get a new challenger lol
Posted By: furious70

Re: 8 Speed AT in 1970 Charger - 06/30/21 01:24 AM

Originally Posted by A990
Originally Posted by furious70
I'd hate to be the guy that did all that work to that car and youtubed it if you really can just cut out the cross member and use the holley mount:

https://www.holley.com/products/eng...ine_and_transmission_mounts/parts/BHS539

they only have this for B bodies 68-70 Chargers so far for some reason.



that's not what it says....

"1966-72 MOPAR B-BODY GEN III HEMI SWAP COMPONENTS"

This particular part says 68-70 b body, not just Charger.
Posted By: roadrunninMark

Re: 8 Speed AT in 1970 Charger - 06/30/21 05:42 PM

Isn't the b-body trans cross member fairly close to the e body?

My friend and I are each putting the 8 speed in our e body cars. I won't be ready probably until next year (for the body mods) but we are now working on getting the 8 speed to properly mount to the small block crank, figuring out flexplate spacing, tq mounting, etc..
Posted By: furious70

Re: 8 Speed AT in 1970 Charger - 07/01/21 03:02 AM

you're using the TF8 with an LA engine?
Posted By: roadrunninMark

Re: 8 Speed AT in 1970 Charger - 07/01/21 01:38 PM

Furious, yes. Mine will behind a hopped up 318, his will be behind a hopped up 340.

Attached picture 318-8speed.jpg
Posted By: Kiddart

Re: 8 Speed AT in 1970 Charger - 07/01/21 03:57 PM

this is such a really cool idea, i hope this works out for you. What flex plate etc to do the swap are you using
Posted By: roadrunninMark

Re: 8 Speed AT in 1970 Charger - 07/01/21 08:52 PM

We are using the Quicktime -947 plate, it has to be drilled for the new TQ. We thought about using the stock plate but I talked to Ross at QuickTime and he said it is easier to drill the holes for the converter than it is to drill the holes for the crank. Plus the balance on the plate won't change when drilling the holes for the converter (symmetrical) as it could with the holes for the crank (non symmetrical). The tooth count is 1 less vs. the stock 8hp plate (130 vs. 131) it shouldn't be an issue.

Our next step is to get the spacing off the crank to the plate/converter correct for the input shaft and starter.

Didn't mean to hijack the thread from the original poster.....
Posted By: SRT6776

Re: 8 Speed AT in 1970 Charger - 07/02/21 12:24 AM

FYI the next generation 8spd has an electric motor in it with something like 235hp and 335lbft
Posted By: Grizzly

Re: 8 Speed AT in 1970 Charger - 07/02/21 01:12 AM

Originally Posted by SRT6776
FYI the next generation 8spd has an electric motor in it with something like 235hp and 335lbft


work

Really?....... devil

Any more info?
Posted By: SRT6776

Re: 8 Speed AT in 1970 Charger - 07/02/21 04:46 AM

"Previously confirmed with electrified assistance by the head of sales operations Matt McAlear, the all-new Charger and Challenger with the fancy 8HP box could arrive in mild-hybrid, hybrid, or plug-in flavors. The most powerful transmission is called 8HP80PH, and in P2 setup for plug-in applications, it cranks out up to 215 horsepower plus 332 pound-feet (450 Nm) of torque.

Combine these figures with the 6.2-liter supercharged V8 of the Super Stock that develops 807 horsepower and 707 pound-feet (959 Nm) on pump gas, and you’ll get 1,022 horsepower and 1,039 pound-feet (1,409 Nm) in total"

Dodge is showing off a new car on July 8th
Posted By: TheOtherDodge

Re: 8 Speed AT in 1970 Charger - 07/02/21 02:20 PM

Nice. The wife's 2020 Mercedes GLE 580 has a hybrid setup with an electric motor in between the engine and trans and it provides 30 hp and 120 lbs more torque to the biturbo 4.0.
Posted By: DANA60

Re: 8 Speed AT in 1970 Charger - 07/07/21 03:57 PM

Holly's cross member will not work with the 90, just the 70.
Posted By: furious70

Re: 8 Speed AT in 1970 Charger - 07/08/21 02:38 AM

Originally Posted by DANA60
Holly's cross member will not work with the 90, just the 70.

hmmm, I've not seen a difference in the cases documented - do you have any photos?
Posted By: SRT6776

Re: 8 Speed AT in 1970 Charger - 07/08/21 11:50 PM

Originally Posted by furious70
Originally Posted by DANA60
Holly's cross member will not work with the 90, just the 70.

hmmm, I've not seen a difference in the cases documented - do you have any photos?


I have no idea but Ive seen a couple youtubers swap the 70 for a 90 in LX cars and none of them mentioned any difficulty
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