Hotchkis Challenger

Posted By: mopork

Hotchkis Challenger - 01/23/12 06:38 AM

I love the Hotchkis Challenger it's exactly what I'm looking for in a good cornering street car. I have the TVS system on order now. So, I'm just going to copy it straight up but I need help locating everything they used to setup the Challenger.

Does anyone know where I can get the following ?

6 piston StopTech calipers and 14" rotors

18" Forgeline wheels

Coleman racing products 1.5:1 steering gear

Posted By: JimDiesel

Re: Hotchkis Challenger - 01/23/12 08:11 AM

Forgeline wheels

This is the only vendor that I know of. I have never bought from them, they are active on pro-touring.com. Forgeline website is down, otherwise they most likely have a list of vendors.

http://driverzinc.com/

Posted By: Daty Rogers

Re: Hotchkis Challenger - 01/23/12 08:11 AM

Call Hotchkis?

-Daty

Posted By: mopardamo

Re: Hotchkis Challenger - 01/23/12 03:15 PM

Hello,

On that cars system do you know if they upgrade the T-bars and sway bars from their base system also?

Damon

Posted By: dangina

Re: Hotchkis Challenger - 01/23/12 10:12 PM

I think the brakes are a one of for the chally but you can contact someone here or contact hotchkis himself:
http://www.stoptech.com/products/big-bra...-and-components

the E-Max has a couple products that they're testing that the public can't get yet like bumpsteer spacers, experimental double adjustable afco shocks, and bigger torsion bars then what they sell to the public

Posted By: mopork

Re: Hotchkis Challenger - 01/24/12 12:34 AM

Forgeline website is back up

Posted By: blown340

Re: Hotchkis Challenger - 01/24/12 12:42 AM

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Call Hotchkis?

-Daty

Agreed, I have talked to their tech people alot in the past when I first built my dakota and found them to be very helpful. I really doubt they would have any problem sharing any of that info, especially with a customer that already has a full TVS system on order.

-Jon

Posted By: 1_WILD_RT

Re: Hotchkis Challenger - 01/24/12 01:02 AM

Most of what is listed seemed pretty typical, the thing that caught my eye is the Coleman racing products 1.5:1 steering gear....

I'd expect a gear ratio between 16-1 & 20-1 not 1.5-1...

So I did some searching & it appears this isn't actually a steering gear per say but a multiplier... So when used with a stock 24-1 gear it will act like a 16-1 gear.... Interesting & probably a great idea for a Slalom event or a Autocross.. But I'm not sure it's a good choice for a dual purpose road/track car....

Posted By: amxautox

Re: Hotchkis Challenger - 01/24/12 01:12 AM

I have 12 to 1 on my AMX. You DEFINITLY have to watch what you're doing on the street. Had an emergancy when some dip [Edited by Moparts - Family Friendly Site - Keep it clean] in a Blazer was half way across the center line around a curve. I didn't crash it, but got close to the ditch.

Posted By: AndyF

Re: Hotchkis Challenger - 01/24/12 01:48 AM

I don't think StopTech ever set up the Mopar brakes as a product. You can buy similiar brakes from Baer though. Baer has the 6P setup or the killer 6S setup available for the Mopar big bearing knuckle. They have 13, 14 and 15 inch rotors so you can go as big as you want.

I covered all of the brake systems available for Mopar vehicles in my B-body book. So that is an easy way to scope out all the options.

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Posted By: mopork

Re: Hotchkis Challenger - 01/24/12 02:03 AM

thanks Andy

Posted By: Kern Dog

Re: Hotchkis Challenger - 01/24/12 03:43 AM

Howe makes a piece called a "Steering quickener", this multiplies the steering wheel input to the steering box.

Posted By: 1_WILD_RT

Re: Hotchkis Challenger - 01/24/12 03:50 AM

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Howe makes a piece called a "Steering quickener", this multiplies the steering wheel input to the steering box.

Same as the gear unit from Coleman Racing Products

Posted By: autoxcuda

Re: Hotchkis Challenger - 01/24/12 07:16 AM

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Howe makes a piece called a "Steering quickener", this multiplies the steering wheel input to the steering box.

Same as the gear unit from Coleman Racing Products

Check out Speedway Motors or other big circle track supply places for good prices on those.

The tricky part to the quickner is the fabrication of installing it.

Posted By: mopork

Re: Hotchkis Challenger - 01/24/12 03:34 PM

Autox

yes there is precious little space down there to install anything

Posted By: 1_WILD_RT

Re: Hotchkis Challenger - 01/24/12 05:17 PM

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yes there is precious little space down there to install anything

It could be mounted under the dash... Your gonna be fabricating to mount it anyway, theres a good brace point under the dash, just gotta section the column... Ask Hotchkis for pictures of their setup..

Posted By: autoxcuda

Re: Hotchkis Challenger - 01/24/12 06:07 PM

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yes there is precious little space down there to install anything

It could be mounted under the dash... Your gonna be fabricating to mount it anyway, theres a good brace point under the dash, just gotta section the column... Ask Hotchkis for pictures of their setup..

I got picture that I took of it. I've posted them before.

The two U-joints will cost as much or more than the reduction box. Don't know why they are using two U-joints.

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Posted By: 1_WILD_RT

Re: Hotchkis Challenger - 01/24/12 06:24 PM

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yes there is precious little space down there to install anything

It could be mounted under the dash... Your gonna be fabricating to mount it anyway, theres a good brace point under the dash, just gotta section the column... Ask Hotchkis for pictures of their setup..

I got picture that I took of it. I've posted them before.

The two U-joints will cost as much or more than the reduction box. Don't know why they are using two U-joints.

So this unit strictly attaches to the column? The units I saw online had a mounting pad to attach the housing to keep it from spinning...

Posted By: autoxcuda

Re: Hotchkis Challenger - 01/24/12 06:37 PM

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yes there is precious little space down there to install anything

It could be mounted under the dash... Your gonna be fabricating to mount it anyway, theres a good brace point under the dash, just gotta section the column... Ask Hotchkis for pictures of their setup..

I got picture that I took of it. I've posted them before.

The two U-joints will cost as much or more than the reduction box. Don't know why they are using two U-joints.
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So this unit strictly attaches to the column? The units I saw online had a mounting pad to attach the housing to keep it from spinning...

That pad is attached to the column. There are at least two flat stocks that run down the sides of the column, a cross bar/pad?. It was tough to get in there and take pictures. A lot of stuff in the way. There's more going on in there than what my limited pictures are showing.

The pictures show it can be done. But the picture don't exactly show how to do it.

Posted By: dangina

Re: Hotchkis Challenger - 01/24/12 08:48 PM

their still running a oem MC setup???

Posted By: autoxcuda

Re: Hotchkis Challenger - 01/25/12 05:14 AM

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their still running a oem MC setup???

The Hotchkis approach on building this car was to represent what a customer car. And not something super trick that a typical customer would/could not build. No aluminun heads, steel master, full interior, etc. About the trickest piece on that car is the steering quickner. Which is a under $100 piece, but takes some advanced fad work to make work.

They say it really made a big difference in the car. Even on a road course at speed.

There are some handling/pro touring car like the ones Detroit Speed and Engineering build that have over $100K of fabrication. Those are basically race car/kit cars with Camaro bodies hung over them.

Posted By: astjp2

Re: Hotchkis Challenger - 01/25/12 05:16 AM

Too bad the Hotchkis car wont pass inspection where I am currently residing. Heim Joints are a NO NO. Tim