Posted By: moparts
2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/14/07 01:28 PM
The contiuned SS/AH and Super Stock in general thread.
Old threads in the Best Of Moparts
Old threads in the Best Of Moparts
2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock
Posted By: VernMotor
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/14/07 05:23 PM
Ok out with the old and in with the new..I sure like to see some more build pics ?? You know in progress...motors and cars
Posted By: B1Frank
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/14/07 05:36 PM
Does any-one know the dates for the 2008 Hemi super-stock challenge, and were will it be at ?? Thanks...B1 Frank
Posted By: 65 NSS 500
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/14/07 08:52 PM
Is this thing on?
Posted By: ajcjr
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/14/07 09:36 PM
i posted this yesterday but for some reason it was deleted.
So what engine builder will dominate this years shootout? Who will have the most #1 qualifiers and top speed?
Does jeff have anything for the warfish? Inquiring minds want to know.
So what engine builder will dominate this years shootout? Who will have the most #1 qualifiers and top speed?
Does jeff have anything for the warfish? Inquiring minds want to know.
Posted By: warfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/14/07 09:53 PM
here is john rains motor almost ready for dyno
Posted By: ajcjr
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/14/07 10:03 PM
jeff any pictures of your customers motors.
Nice piece charlie, can you say HEMI!!
That thing looks like its ready to go to war with the best of them
Nice piece charlie, can you say HEMI!!
That thing looks like its ready to go to war with the best of them
Posted By: mr2performance
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/14/07 11:40 PM
Another hemi ready for the dyno
Posted By: 68Fastback
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/15/07 02:17 AM
I think there are more Hemi builders out there besides Jeff and their record speaks for themselves, if I recall there was a West Coast team that did well at the Hemi Shootout on the west coast using Jeff's heads. And of course there is that builder in Virginia, I think he supplies Bucky Hess with motors and I hear he has a new car in the works. Amazing what a small world the Hemi club is.
Jesse
Jesse
Posted By: mr_340
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/15/07 04:00 AM
Quote:
Another hemi ready for the dyno
That sure is a tall intake. Is that for an SS/AH car or something with a taller scoop? I wish the photo hadn't got the bottom cutoff. All I can see is the intake.
Posted By: ajcjr
Re: pm i received - 12/15/07 12:19 PM
i received this pm below from will;
is your problem with Jeff? You see the need to keep stirring the pot on here. If you have a problem with him go call him up on the phone. His number is listed. If not you need to get your CW knee pads off and get a life.
Will Prater
1. will i dont have knee pads on, i think its awesome that someone like CW goes out and kicks but at these events.
2. If you or jeff cant take the heat get out of the kitchen.
3. i have a life, a great job, wife, kid, building a nice car, so yes i think i have a life.
make sure you get your knee pads on and tell jeff you are protecting him
is your problem with Jeff? You see the need to keep stirring the pot on here. If you have a problem with him go call him up on the phone. His number is listed. If not you need to get your CW knee pads off and get a life.
Will Prater
1. will i dont have knee pads on, i think its awesome that someone like CW goes out and kicks but at these events.
2. If you or jeff cant take the heat get out of the kitchen.
3. i have a life, a great job, wife, kid, building a nice car, so yes i think i have a life.
make sure you get your knee pads on and tell jeff you are protecting him
Posted By: willp
Re: pm i received - 12/15/07 08:08 PM
From Pm to public forum. Now maybe you can stir something from behind your computer.
1. I think he does a good job too. Charlie elevates the bar and makes the class that much more fun to watch.
2. Ha very original.
3. so
I don't think you are doing this forum any good by trying to continue to stir the pot. Charlie is a big boy and can take care of himself.
"make sure you get your knee pads on and tell jeff you are protecting him"- what are you about 16yrs old?
BTW- no more keyboard banter with you unless you want to use your real name.
1. I think he does a good job too. Charlie elevates the bar and makes the class that much more fun to watch.
2. Ha very original.
3. so
I don't think you are doing this forum any good by trying to continue to stir the pot. Charlie is a big boy and can take care of himself.
"make sure you get your knee pads on and tell jeff you are protecting him"- what are you about 16yrs old?
BTW- no more keyboard banter with you unless you want to use your real name.
Posted By: Anonymous
Post deleted by Defbob - 12/15/07 09:17 PM
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: pm i received - 12/15/07 09:53 PM
What kind of horsepower are these engines making now?
Posted By: 64HemiSavoy
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock ... Calendars - 12/15/07 10:33 PM
Posted By: SSDAcuda
Re: pm i received - 12/16/07 01:55 AM
Quote:
i received this pm below from will;
is your problem with Jeff? You see the need to keep stirring the pot on here. If you have a problem with him go call him up on the phone. His number is listed. If not you need to get your CW knee pads off and get a life.
Will Prater
Will, thanks for saying what I was thinking.
Charlie has a problem with Jeff. Thats there business. The way I see it as long as they each continue to help develop the Hemi and raise the horsepower levels, its all good.
As long as theres a Hemi under the hood, we're all in this together.I don't know why there are certain people that want to bash Jeff. He's a good guy to deal with. Charlie may be at the front of the pack right now, but that doesn't make Jeff a bad guy.
Posted By: ajcjr
Re: pm i received - 12/16/07 02:34 AM
Quote:
From Pm to public forum. Now maybe you can stir something from behind your computer.
1. I think he does a good job too. Charlie elevates the bar and makes the class that much more fun to watch.
2. Ha very original.
3. so
I don't think you are doing this forum any good by trying to continue to stir the pot. Charlie is a big boy and can take care of himself.
"make sure you get your knee pads on and tell jeff you are protecting him"- what are you about 16yrs old?
BTW- no more keyboard banter with you unless you want to use your real name.
Will what is wrong with stirring the pot. I guess you dont have any favorite sports teams you cheer for or any favorite drivers you cheer on.
Did i ever come out in public and say i have a problem with Jeff, no i said "does he have anything for the Warfish", can he compete with him this year, will he even have a car out???? JEff talk some much crap on the other forum, but i guess its ok only if he says something.
16 no, i am 34, live in long island NY, Anthony Carbone Jr, if you are ever in NY look me up
!
Posted By: ajcjr
Re: pm i received - 12/16/07 02:40 AM
Quote:
From Pm to public forum. Now maybe you can stir something from behind your computer.
1. I think he does a good job too. Charlie elevates the bar and makes the class that much more fun to watch.
2. Ha very original.
3. so
I don't think you are doing this forum any good by trying to continue to stir the pot. Charlie is a big boy and can take care of himself.
"make sure you get your knee pads on and tell jeff you are protecting him"- what are you about 16yrs old?
BTW- no more keyboard banter with you unless you want to use your real name.
double post sorry
Posted By: warfish
empire state manifold - 12/16/07 03:16 AM
I wish mr2 would repost that pic so we could see the rest of it. whos motor is that? turks?
later.
in response to the HP question, the good ones are making a little over 900. the majority are making around 825. it takes 940 if you want the pole.
cw
later.
in response to the HP question, the good ones are making a little over 900. the majority are making around 825. it takes 940 if you want the pole.
cw
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: empire state manifold - 12/16/07 07:11 AM
940?? whos making that??? your not or your cars JUNK i quess thats why its for sale i heard 40,00 rolling i think it might be worth it.
DefRank claims 905 so if your 940 i just dont see it on the track But a junk car can do that.I remember hearing someone say your reply a few years back at INDY when the smiths had their new motors and were turds easy copout (the cars are junk)
825 dont sell it so short most are making better than that your on the pole as a result of nothing better to do. If you are making 940 on your dyno.Most companies will comeout and calibrate it for you ask your daddy for some more money and get someone out
DefRank claims 905 so if your 940 i just dont see it on the track But a junk car can do that.I remember hearing someone say your reply a few years back at INDY when the smiths had their new motors and were turds easy copout (the cars are junk)
825 dont sell it so short most are making better than that your on the pole as a result of nothing better to do. If you are making 940 on your dyno.Most companies will comeout and calibrate it for you ask your daddy for some more money and get someone out
Posted By: warfish
Re: empire state manifold - 12/16/07 12:06 PM
this is how this stuff gets started, a know nothing starting trouble.
Smiths engine is in larry woos car, enough said.
Defrank is making more than that, since I know him, I think I know better than you.
How much does it cost to send your
heads to north korea? are there alot of dragstrips there?
Its 7:00 am here on sunday, I have been up working for an hour, maybe around 10 you can call up and talk about how much you guys know about everything.
later
cw
Smiths engine is in larry woos car, enough said.
Defrank is making more than that, since I know him, I think I know better than you.
How much does it cost to send your
heads to north korea? are there alot of dragstrips there?Its 7:00 am here on sunday, I have been up working for an hour, maybe around 10 you can call up
and talk about how much you guys know about everything.later
cw
Posted By: mr2performance
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/16/07 02:10 PM
Sorry about that pic being cut off, I didn't realize it until this morning. Here you go.
Posted By: ajcjr
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/16/07 02:24 PM
Quote:
Sorry about that pic being cut off, I didn't realize it until this morning. Here you go.
is that the same motor as above?
Posted By: topside
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/16/07 03:33 PM
I don't "get" the animosity on these SS/A threads; as far as I'm concerned, anyone running these cars competitively has my respect, and anyone running in the mid-8s even more so.
The timeslips tell who's doing the best job of it.
2.2HP/CI is one hell of an achievement for this configuration.
SS/AH is a fantastic class, and it takes a lot of money to do well (heck, even to show up!). Appreciate it.
The timeslips tell who's doing the best job of it.
2.2HP/CI is one hell of an achievement for this configuration.
SS/AH is a fantastic class, and it takes a lot of money to do well (heck, even to show up!). Appreciate it.
Posted By: B1Frank
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/16/07 03:46 PM
Posted By: ajcjr
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/16/07 03:57 PM
who ever put the "fish stick" under my name thanks, i was trying to figure out how to change it. 
Posted By: warfish
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/16/07 04:12 PM
I thought you changed it, I am "super stock fan"?
can I request "the man" ?
that pic is better, that must be steve morris' dyno. when can we get some pics of the new dyno at racing stables?
I hope to get rains on tonight or tomorrow.
As far as the animosity between racers (and non racing fans) I think thats what keeps it interesting when we cant race. do you all think that ronnie sox, and landy, etc. all had a big group hug before each rd? I doubt it. This isnt rodney king racing, this is my car is faster than yours. I like it, get used to it.
later
cw
can I request "the man" ?
that pic is better, that must be steve morris' dyno. when can we get some pics of the new dyno at
racing stables?I hope to get rains on tonight or tomorrow.
As far as the animosity between racers (and non racing fans) I think thats what keeps it interesting when we cant race. do you all think that ronnie sox, and landy, etc. all had a big group hug before each rd? I doubt it. This isnt rodney king racing, this is my car is faster than yours. I like it, get used to it.
later
cw
Posted By: go green
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/16/07 04:23 PM
Maybe off topic but you guys need a break from 
I have seen the way SS/AH guys launch their cars and wonder why they hate their converters so much?
They bump into the lights like a pro stock car and I don't understand why ? I could see if the class had a pro tree but with a 500 sportsman tree there is lots of time to get the engine on step.
What kind of converter temps do you guys run at the line ?
I love the class and building one also . I heard from someone that NHRA might allow rack and pinion steering for the class . Who would I contact to get the latest rules and maybe what is going to change in the near future?
I have seen the way SS/AH guys launch their cars and wonder why they hate their converters so much?
They bump into the lights like a pro stock car and I don't understand why ? I could see if the class had a pro tree but with a 500 sportsman tree there is lots of time to get the engine on step.
What kind of converter temps do you guys run at the line ?
I love the class and building one also . I heard from someone that NHRA might allow rack and pinion steering for the class . Who would I contact to get the latest rules and maybe what is going to change in the near future?
Posted By: ASA1711
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/16/07 04:34 PM
Charlie,
Bench racing is fun and you certainly enjoy it. Whatever the deal is between you and Jeff is your business and maybe you guys should keep it that way. Just my opinion.. If you disagree that's fine too, I'll respect that.
How is the new stick car coming?
I also have a technical question. Is there a formula you use to determine what transmission first gear ratio and ring and pinion ratio to use to maximize launch but minimize wheel spin?
Thanks.
Frank
Posted By: ajcjr
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/16/07 06:04 PM
Quote:
Charlie,
Bench racing is fun and you certainly enjoy it. Whatever the deal is between you and Jeff is your business and maybe you guys should keep it that way. Just my opinion.. If you disagree that's fine too, I'll respect that.
How is the new stick car coming?
I also have a technical question. Is there a formula you use to determine what transmission first gear ratio and ring and pinion ratio to use to maximize launch but minimize wheel spin?
Thanks.
Frank
frank that car in your profile is sweet, what class do you run in D1, i am building a 64 dodge for d1 stock.
hopefully the winter will go quickly
Posted By: ajcjr
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/16/07 06:09 PM
Quote:
Maybe off topic but you guys need a break from
I have seen the way SS/AH guys launch their cars and wonder why they hate their converters so much?
They bump into the lights like a pro stock car and I don't understand why ? I could see if the class had a pro tree but with a 500 sportsman tree there is lots of time to get the engine on step.
What kind of converter temps do you guys run at the line ?
I love the class and building one also . I heard from someone that NHRA might allow rack and pinion steering for the class . Who would I contact to get the latest rules and maybe what is going to change in the near future?
go green who is building your car and motor? Stick or auto?
One day hope to build one myself.
Posted By: ASA1711
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/16/07 06:37 PM
ajcjr,
That is a picture of car I helped build back in the eighties with my good friend and partner at that time Jimmy Lovallo. It is an original Max Wedge car, campaigned by Jim in D3 out of St. Louis and was just redone this year and is for sale, see www.racingjunk.com for details.
At the time I also had an exact twin to that car that I ran A/SA in D1 against guys like Stein, Lebrun, Leopold and others. We did pretty well and most of all had a blast. I sold that car to John Shaul when I got very involved in my kids sports endeavors. I've regretted it ever since, should have just parked it because I've got the itch again.
Thanks and good luck with your car. Be prepared to spend alot of money!
Frank
Posted By: go green
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/16/07 06:43 PM
I am building it myself so that's why I want to know the rules and take them to the limit. Going to be a father son project ( my dad raced SS/A with a factory Hemi Dart years ago with a car called Old Trapper) .
The biggest dilemma is who makes the best heads ?
Probably shake the car down with a 615 B1 engine to get the bugs out then switch to the Hemi.
Maybe have the car done late 2008 depends how the Outlaw 10.5 car does.
The biggest dilemma is who makes the best heads ?
Probably shake the car down with a 615 B1 engine to get the bugs out then switch to the Hemi.
Maybe have the car done late 2008 depends how the Outlaw 10.5 car does.
Posted By: ajcjr
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/16/07 06:54 PM
FRank i saw that car on Racingjunk, looks very nice. Right now i am going to run the car in I/SA with a 383. May be put a wedge in it in a couple of years. A friend of mine runs a b/sa, one of the faster wedges in the country. I ran stock for 4 years before with a g/fia mustange i built myself, so i know the game LOL!! Hope to see you out there soon.
Go GReen sounds cool, i hope to race with my 3yr old one day. You should talk to CW about motors. What does your outlaw car look like?
Go GReen sounds cool, i hope to race with my 3yr old one day. You should talk to CW about motors. What does your outlaw car look like?
Posted By: ASA1711
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/16/07 07:15 PM
ajcjr,
I like the 383, but have you thought about the 426 steet wedge? I've always liked that combination for G/SA, 11 lbs.@ 300 hp (factor).
3470 with the driver. Pretty good heads, cam and carburetor.
Posted By: Hemi_Jack
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/16/07 08:11 PM
Quote:
my dad raced SS/A with a factory Hemi Dart years ago with a car called Old Trapper) .
go green, is your dad's name Al? Those Old Trapper cars were pretty well known back in the 70's. Any pictures?
Posted By: SSDAcuda
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/17/07 12:22 AM
Charlie, thanks for the intake runner picture! I would love to have the money from your scrap aluminum pile! Keep up the good work!
Mike(MR2), how the heck is that tunnel ram, err cross ram gonna fit under the hood, 3 inch K frame spacers!
Mike(MR2), how the heck is that tunnel ram, err cross ram gonna fit under the hood, 3 inch K frame spacers!
Posted By: mr2performance
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/17/07 01:16 AM
It fits 
with no k-frame spacers. It does look tall though (empire state manifold) 
with no k-frame spacers. It does look tall though (empire state manifold)
Posted By: REHBERGERRACING
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/17/07 01:24 AM
Quote:
Quote:
my dad raced SS/A with a factory Hemi Dart years ago with a car called Old Trapper) .
go green, is your dad's name Al? Those Old Trapper cars were pretty well known back in the 70's. Any pictures?
How about a 67 Plymouth........
Posted By: RV2
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/17/07 01:37 AM
Any links to build pics of these cars
Posted By: warfish
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/17/07 02:03 AM
finally got the valve covers done, and new wires for new design front drive distributor. If you notice no spacers are needed to clear the water pump like the other engine pic on here. Just a little appearance if anyone wants it.
Hope to run it tomorrow.
later
cw
Hope to run it tomorrow.
later
cw
Posted By: VernMotor
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/17/07 02:16 AM
What size are them carbs and what CFM will they flow ??
Posted By: ajcjr
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/17/07 02:21 AM
Quote:
finally got the valve covers done, and new wires for new design front drive distributor. If you notice no spacers are needed to clear the water pump like the other engine pic on here. Just a little appearance if anyone wants it.
Hope to run it tomorrow.
later
cw
sweet valve covers, did you put a window in there?
Can you do that to any valve cover?
Posted By: crc
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/17/07 02:27 AM
Posted By: go green
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/17/07 02:28 AM
Ya that was one of them . The last time I saw that car was at my grandfather Jim Ronaghan's funeral . My father Albert and Jim campaigned the Old Trapper cars thought the 60's and 70s . We went to California and picked up a cuda earlier this year and have it ready for a cage now. But my job and the other cuda will make for a hectic work schedule. I will post pictures when I start the cage .
Posted By: StewartP
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/17/07 02:39 AM
Charlie: now you have me confused, after looking at the spark plug wires on the new engine. What is the firing order of it ???
StewartP
StewartP
Posted By: warfish
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/17/07 02:50 AM
normal 18736542 distribtor goes clockwise now
Posted By: StewartP
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/17/07 02:55 AM
so you have a 4 - 7 swap from the normal firing order ???
thanks
StewartP
thanks
StewartP
Posted By: Troy
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/17/07 03:54 PM
....Charlie, on your new valve covers, can I ask you what is there main purpose is? I'm sure it is fun to look at while the engine is idling but other than that what are you looking for? I guess if you pop a pushrod or hurt some rocker gear you would know what side it is on but other than that???
Inquiring minds would like to know.
Thanks for everything.
Inquiring minds would like to know.
Thanks for everything.
Posted By: warfish
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/17/07 04:01 PM
I started making them when we started oiling through the pushrods to see how that worked. and you can see if your oil is clean. It also fixes some clearance issues with the rockers.
Posted By: Troy
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/17/07 04:01 PM
Quote:
so you have a 4 - 7 swap from the normal firing order ???
thanks
StewartP
Many engines builders do this for a few reason. One of the reason is so cylinders 5 and 7 are not firing next to each other...trying to keep them from cross firing.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Posted By: Jimi_Vignogna
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/17/07 06:21 PM
charlie what is that block of aluminum for you are machining in the lathe?
Posted By: Troy
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/17/07 07:48 PM
Quote:
I started making them when we started oiling through the pushrods to see how that worked. and you can see if your oil is clean. It also fixes some clearance issues with the rockers.
Very nice, Good job and Thanks!!
Posted By: AndyF
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/17/07 08:01 PM
Charlie,
I made a production run of brackets for the Jesel stuff that solved the water pump clerance issue. I changed the distributor bracket so it mounted to the motor plate and then lengthened it a bit to clear the new reverse flow Meziere pump. I also added an adjustable TDC pointer to the crank trigger mount. Shoot me a PM and I'll get you a set of parts to look at if you're interested.
I made a production run of brackets for the Jesel stuff that solved the water pump clerance issue. I changed the distributor bracket so it mounted to the motor plate and then lengthened it a bit to clear the new reverse flow Meziere pump. I also added an adjustable TDC pointer to the crank trigger mount. Shoot me a PM and I'll get you a set of parts to look at if you're interested.
Posted By: 64ssmax
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/17/07 09:10 PM
Quote:
charlie what is that block of aluminum for you are machining in the lathe?
looks like it is the begining of the intake manifold runners
Posted By: mr_340
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/18/07 03:19 AM
Quote:
charlie what is that block of aluminum for you are machining in the lathe?
I think that is a 4 or 5-axis CNC milling machine. It looks like that will save a lot of fitting and welding of all the pieces. Two of those and weld the plenum on and you're almost done.
Posted By: warfish
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/18/07 12:34 PM
thats right, its on a mill.
Posted By: YbNoRmAL
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/18/07 03:26 PM
Charlie, thanks for sharing those pics, cool stuff 
.
Anybody got any pics of the SS/AH that Tony Depillo was driving this year. Was it a stick or auto?
.Anybody got any pics of the SS/AH that Tony Depillo was driving this year. Was it a stick or auto?
Posted By: SSHemi364
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/18/07 03:58 PM
Here the pic of Tony DePillo SS/AH and the car is a stick..
thank Joe DePillo
thank Joe DePillo
Posted By: JERICOGTX
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/18/07 05:12 PM
What trans is he running in the Cuda? My Buddy is building a AH car, and wants to run a stick, but wants to know which ones hold up to 900hp.
Jeff
Jeff
Posted By: jake4cars
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/18/07 05:30 PM
Good Luck Tony!!!, that is a sharp car.
Posted By: SSHemi364
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/18/07 06:59 PM
Were running in G-force tranny....
JD
JD
Posted By: REHBERGERRACING
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/18/07 08:36 PM
Quote:
Here the pic of Tony DePillo SS/AH and the car is a stick..
thank Joe DePillo
Here's an int. picture i took at Indy.......
Posted By: Defbob
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/18/07 11:11 PM
Hmmm....V-gate.
someone should be bold enough to run a conventional shifter
someone should be bold enough to run a conventional shifter
Posted By: joshking440
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/19/07 12:41 AM
Warfish, I was wondering if your car (with baited breath) ever had a bow tie painted on the roof. If I remember correct it was at Stanton Michigan I saw it.......but I could be wrong..... 
Posted By: warfish
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/19/07 01:38 AM
Quote:
Warfish, I was wondering if your car (with baited breath) ever had a bow tie painted on the roof. If I remember correct it was at Stanton Michigan I saw it.......but I could be wrong.....
yes it did, it is a longer story than I want to type. a problem I had with mopar. we got over it, and now we are all buds.
I still have an extra one (sticker) just in case.
cw
Posted By: TS3303
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/19/07 03:00 AM
Charlie your the man, keep hammering the
Posted By: moprod
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/19/07 02:17 PM
That would be an interesting story to tell, IM sure.
Posted By: Al_Alguire
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/19/07 04:27 PM
Just wanted to say to you guys for what you do with those AH cars. I spoke with Mazzolini a few weeks back about his car and once again I am amazed at what you guys can do with these "little" Hemis.
to you guys for what you do with those AH cars. I spoke with Mazzolini a few weeks back about his car and once again I am amazed at what you guys can do with these "little" Hemis.
Posted By: SILVER67
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/19/07 05:51 PM
Sharp looking car SSHemi364! !
Posted By: warfish
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/20/07 02:56 AM
Quote:
Warfish, I was wondering if your car (with baited breath) ever had a bow tie painted on the roof. If I remember correct it was at Stanton Michigan I saw it.......but I could be wrong.....
a stroll down memory lane
Posted By: HEMI472
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/20/07 05:47 AM
i thought you had a big orange bow tie on it???????
Posted By: jyrki
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/20/07 06:56 AM
Here is the first one in our country:
Posted By: SC304
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/20/07 07:08 PM
Is that in the Eighth......downhill...
CBS....
CBS....
Posted By: ajcjr
Re: ss/ah - 12/20/07 08:02 PM
any results from the dyno?
Any testing dates set up, cant wait to hear about some numbers this year.
Any testing dates set up, cant wait to hear about some numbers this year.
Posted By: warfish
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/20/07 08:35 PM
I give up, what country.
the dyno session isnt over yet, I put about 15 pulls on it, waiting for some new parts to get here so I can try them.
it should be fine, looking for about 10 to get it even with mine.
the dyno session isnt over yet, I put about 15 pulls on it, waiting for some new parts to get here so I can try them.
it should be fine, looking for about 10 to get it even with mine.
Posted By: S/SSJOHN
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/20/07 10:52 PM
To SS Hemi 364!Joe Just saying Merry Christmas to you ,and your Dad, and to the rest of the readers on this site!Tony, The car is just about together! Merry Christmas to Charlie, Jeff,Also Happy New Year.... John Lang SS #365,C/SA #365 C/SA . I will be out in spring, health permiting! 
Posted By: REHBERGERRACING
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/21/07 02:53 AM
Quote:
To SS Hemi 364!Joe Just saying Merry Christmas to you ,and your Dad, and to the rest of the readers on this site!Tony, The car is just about together! Merry Christmas to Charlie, Jeff,Also Happy New Year.... John Lang SS #365,C/SA #365 C/SA . I will be out in spring, health permiting!
I've seen you at Great Lakes a few times doing some testing.
Posted By: joshking440
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/21/07 04:05 AM
to see that picture really makes my stomach turn.....its like blasphemy....but I'm sure justified... 
Posted By: jyrki
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/21/07 07:49 AM
Quote:
I give up, what country.
Finland. There is two in Sweden running mid 9's, but this ones drivetrain should be a bit more up to date. The chassis is homebuilt, and the engine was built by Chuck Rayburn, the trans is a pro trans 904.
Posted By: warfish
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/21/07 12:28 PM
I'll bet thats real tough running a car over there, and having to get most of your parts in the us. I sold chuck some parts, and he told me that he sold his engine to someone over there.
cw
cw
Posted By: 11secdart
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/22/07 03:37 PM
Now we know why Rayburns BA car runs so fast.
Posted By: warfish
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/22/07 06:08 PM
I just sold him some pistons, and rings. I have never sold him anything before.
I dont want to take credit for anything I didnt do.
I dont want to take credit for anything I didnt do.
Posted By: badwej
Re: ss/ah hemi pic *DELETED* *DELETED* - 12/23/07 12:06 AM
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Posted By: 11secdart
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/23/07 12:40 AM
Fair enough CW.
Posted By: warfish
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/23/07 02:16 AM
Quote:
Anyone know the history of this car before the retard Don MaCallum got it from Eddy Smith
I thought that smith got their car from don. I thought don built that car himself. I heard that s&s has been liquidated by the bank. I know someone who was bidding on their whole spread.
later
cw
Posted By: Uncle Barry
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/23/07 02:44 AM
Quote:nice choice of words... kinda shocking coming from someone with a reputation like yours. how professionalQuote:
Anyone know the history of this car before the retard Don MaCallum got it from Eddy Smith
I thought that smith got their car from don. I thought don built that car himself. speaking of retards, I heard that s&s has been liquidated by the bank. I know someone who was bidding on their whole spread.
later
cw
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/23/07 05:48 AM
Barry you most not know CW
Everyone is a STOKE,Retart or something he belittles others to make himself fell better about himself.Id quess it helps him makeup for something missing in his life.Something has to be wrong with the guy for the way he is.
I do give him credit for what he does but what else does one do when they come from money and gets everything handed to them.I hear he lives deep in the woods cutoff from the world hidden away like a hermit.
Hes the president of his own fanclub.And does one fine job of insulting others while patting himself on the back.
Everyone is a STOKE,Retart or something he belittles others to make himself fell better about himself.Id quess it helps him makeup for something missing in his life.Something has to be wrong with the guy for the way he is.
I do give him credit for what he does but what else does one do when they come from money and gets everything handed to them.I hear he lives deep in the woods cutoff from the world hidden away like a hermit.
Hes the president of his own fanclub.And does one fine job of insulting others while patting himself on the back.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/23/07 01:37 PM
If you`re going to s**t on someone you could do us the favor and learn how to spell.We wouldn`t want people to think YOU are a "retart"! 
Posted By: SSDAcuda
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/23/07 03:10 PM
Quote:
Barry you most not know CW
Everyone is a STOKE,Retart or something he belittles others to make himself fell better about himself.Id quess it helps him makeup for something missing in his life.Something has to be wrong with the guy for the way he is.
I do give him credit for what he does but what else does one do when they come from money and gets everything handed to them.I hear he lives deep in the woods cutoff from the world hidden away like a hermit.
Hes the president of his own fanclub.And does one fine job of insulting others while patting himself on the back.
I can't believe I'm gonna stick up for CW, but If we look at the AH class as a whole, Money wont necesarily make you the winner. Theres a whole bunch of money in that Pro stock, errr Super Stock class. Charlie certainly talks the talk, But he does walk the walk!
Posted By: warfish
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/23/07 04:21 PM
you have to cut duster a little slack, its probably hard to focus when you are eating a .
.
Posted By: ASA1711
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/23/07 06:18 PM
Hey guys,
Why can't this thread be about HEMI Super Stock racing?
If anyone on this forum has something critical to say, use your real name and don't hide behind your keyboard like some cyber punk.
Oh by the way, Merry Christmas to one and all.
Frank Castros
Why can't this thread be about HEMI Super Stock racing?
If anyone on this forum has something critical to say, use your real name and don't hide behind your keyboard like some cyber punk.
Oh by the way, Merry Christmas to one and all.
Frank Castros
Posted By: ajcjr
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/23/07 08:35 PM
Quote:
Barry you most not know CW
Everyone is a STOKE,Retart or something he belittles others to make himself fell better about himself.Id quess it helps him makeup for something missing in his life.Something has to be wrong with the guy for the way he is.
I do give him credit for what he does but what else does one do when they come from money and gets everything handed to them.I hear he lives deep in the woods cutoff from the world hidden away like a hermit.
Hes the president of his own fanclub.And does one fine job of insulting others while patting himself on the back.
i guess that is why he wins alot of races he gets everything handed to him. I doubt he works hard trying to make more hp and developing new things for the hemi.
good thinking you big
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/23/07 09:07 PM
Just saying the guy doesnt have the worries many do.He doesnt have to work to pay a house payment,car payment,Electric bill.and such.Daddy takes care of everything CWjr only needs to work on his motor.No distractions like Rent for a building or a paycheck to support a family.
Posted By: ajcjr
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/23/07 09:12 PM
Quote:
Just saying the guy doesnt have the worries many do.He doesnt have to work to pay a house payment,car payment,Electric bill.and such.Daddy takes care of everything CWjr only needs to work on his motor.No distractions like Rent for a building or a paycheck to support a family.
i didnt know they had money trees in Michigan. From what i hear Charlie and his dad are hard workers with the cars and there occupations.
Posted By: dannysbee
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/23/07 09:18 PM
Please guys don't get this thread locked. If you want to discuss personal feelings take it to PM's.
Posted By: warfish
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/23/07 09:37 PM
Quote:
Just saying the guy doesnt have the worries many do.He doesnt have to work to pay a house payment,car payment,Electric bill.and such.Daddy takes care of everything CWjr only needs to work on his motor.No distractions like Rent for a building or a paycheck to support a family.
I am glad you are so up on the financial arrangements of my life. you dont have a clue what you are talking about. why dont you call my "daddy" and he can tell you how it is.
"you" are the definition of a "stroke" which is someone that doesn't know what they dont know.
think about that one.
I always get blamed every time one of these threads get locked, and this is what always gets it started. A
fan in disguise, that doesnt know anything.I am tired of it.
I am going back down to the dyno, I just came up to get something.
later
cw
Posted By: Defbob
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/23/07 09:54 PM
Guys, this tread is about the cars. Keep it about the cars. Charlie isn't the one that started the bickering this time. Charlie does have a right to talk about his engines without being criticized just as much as Jeff does. I think he should be more respectful and get rid of the banana, though.
Personal problems and lives should be left out of this thread.
Personal problems and lives should be left out of this thread.
Posted By: B1Frank
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/23/07 11:36 PM
Lets talk about S/S racing- Smith racing,....And all there problems ??,They owe me $1500.00 dollars, I know i will never see it !!!.....The real world !From them. 
Posted By: badwej
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/23/07 11:37 PM
Is that ok or you need my phone number also, I just call it as I see it.
Posted By: B1Frank
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/23/07 11:39 PM
Posted By: BryanRad
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/24/07 01:10 AM
This post wasnt bad until someone began throwing the good old retard adjective around. Instead of editing these posts and removing the retard reference, why not just delete them.
Posted By: B1Frank
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/24/07 01:16 AM
Lets talk about horse-power!!
Posted By: Ari440
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/24/07 01:20 AM
can you post some pics of the low profile oilpans and what is needed to cut the K frame to make them fit
Posted By: prochargedhemi
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/24/07 02:34 AM
I just wanna say that all the guys runnin AH get a from me. What you guys do with them LITTLE cube motors is outright amazing keep up the good work
from me. What you guys do with them LITTLE cube motors is outright amazing keep up the good work
Posted By: GOLDUST
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/24/07 04:13 AM
Quote:Who cares!The guy wins!I saw with my own eye's how much H.P Jackson engines make,so much so that I'am trying to get the owner,driver of our ss/ah car to get Charlie to build a motor for us,and get rid of brand B!
Just saying the guy doesnt have the worries many do.He doesnt have to work to pay a house payment,car payment,Electric bill.and such.Daddy takes care of everything CWjr only needs to work on his motor.No distractions like Rent for a building or a paycheck to support a family.
Posted By: 68Fastback
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/24/07 07:06 AM
So anyone know if NHRA will enforce the funny car cage rule next year.
Jesse
Jesse
Posted By: nitrohemi
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/24/07 10:44 AM
nest time I am over at john baughmans junkyad I'll ask about S&S guys. I am sure they ar buddies. the baughmans boys car was an S&S car. in fact I'll ask the baghmans why tey aren't racing
Posted By: warfish
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/24/07 05:44 PM
Quote:
So anyone know if NHRA will enforce the funny car cage rule next year.
Jesse
no, there is no rule to enforce. I have said it before, and I will say it one more time. The 8.49 rule doesnt apply to us anymore than it applies to scott goves car that went 7.90 something in ss/am. the mod cars go faster than we do, and they have the same chassis rules we do. they have been in the low 8's for 5 years.
I am not worried about it, and the only ones who are are ripoff chassis builders that want to update cars. my old jalopy will be just fine.
later
cw
Posted By: mr2performance
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/24/07 07:38 PM
The 8.49 and quicker 25.5 sfi spec absolutely does not apply to the Superstock class in general. People keep bringing up Bo Butner getting kicked out of the divisional at Indy in his comp car and trying to compare that somehow to superstock ah needing to upgrade. Butner went quicker than 7.50 not 8.50. His car needed to be upgraded from 25.5 to 25.2.
Posted By: moderncylinder
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/24/07 09:28 PM
merry christmas to all...
jeff
jeff
Posted By: LO23
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/24/07 09:39 PM
Quote:
merry christmas to all...
Posted By: VernMotor
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/24/07 09:48 PM
Yes merry christmas to all 
Posted By: 68Fastback
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/24/07 11:48 PM
Hey Jeff Merry Christmas to you also.
Jesse
Jesse
Quote:
merry christmas to all...
jeff
Posted By: Jimi_Vignogna
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/25/07 06:12 PM
the 25.5 spec applied to ss/am as of jan 1 07 my avenger will not recertify for quicker than 8.50 untill i get the updates done.
Quote:
The 8.49 and quicker 25.5 sfi spec absolutely does not apply to the Superstock class in general. People keep bringing up Bo Butner getting kicked out of the divisional at Indy in his comp car and trying to compare that somehow to superstock ah needing to upgrade. Butner went quicker than 7.50 not 8.50. His car needed to be upgraded from 25.5 to 25.2.
Posted By: 383man
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/25/07 11:29 PM
Merry Christmass to all. I love the SS/AH Hemi cars and they are awesome to watch. I was at the Dutch Classic at Maple Grove this year and I gotta say it was some show. Larry Woo's car was running good and the Warfish cars put on one heck of a show. I love this pic of Sox and Jenkins from the good old days. I still love the attitude of Sox's car even today. Ron
I love the SS/AH Hemi cars and they are awesome to watch. I was at the Dutch Classic at Maple Grove this year and I gotta say it was some show. Larry Woo's car was running good and the Warfish cars put on one heck of a show. I love this pic of Sox and Jenkins from the good old days. I still love the attitude of Sox's car even today. Ron
Posted By: warfish
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/29/07 08:57 PM
happy new year
just seeing if this thing works
just seeing if this thing works
Posted By: ajcjr
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/30/07 02:10 PM
happy and healthy new year to all
going to post some pictures from the dutch
going to post some pictures from the dutch
Posted By: ajcjr
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/30/07 02:28 PM
more
Posted By: ajcjr
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/30/07 02:32 PM
more pics
Posted By: ajcjr
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/30/07 02:32 PM
dutch 2007
Posted By: ajcjr
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/30/07 02:42 PM
dutch cont
Posted By: ajcjr
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/30/07 02:43 PM
hemis
Posted By: ajcjr
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/30/07 02:46 PM
inside a hemi car
Posted By: ajcjr
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/30/07 02:49 PM
earthquake
Posted By: StewartP
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/30/07 02:52 PM
one of the hardest working people in SS/AH - just Him and Pop
Posted By: ajcjr
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/30/07 02:54 PM
holton
Posted By: ajcjr
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/30/07 02:56 PM
more hemis
Posted By: ajcjr
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/30/07 02:58 PM
last for now
Posted By: StewartP
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/30/07 03:18 PM
and the way it was
1
1
Posted By: StewartP
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/30/07 03:19 PM
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Posted By: StewartP
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/30/07 03:19 PM
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Posted By: StewartP
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/30/07 03:20 PM
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Posted By: StewartP
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/30/07 03:21 PM
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Posted By: StewartP
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/30/07 03:21 PM
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Posted By: VernMotor
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/30/07 03:52 PM
CW How did you come to paint the cars like you do ? What the story behind that ? Was you in the army or something ? or a hunter ?
Posted By: Al_Alguire
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/30/07 06:49 PM
I would be interested in hearing that story myself..
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/30/07 10:27 PM
I need some info if you SS guys can help me out. What compression are the SS motors making in 04-05-06. I have a SS motor just had it freshend up and installed all new pistons and i think the compression is off.
Rob
Rob
Posted By: warfish
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/31/07 02:22 AM
Quote:
CW How did you come to paint the cars like you do ? What the story behind that ? Was you in the army or something ? or a hunter ?
no on the army, and hunting, although I like to eat.
When I got the car, it was flat yellow primer. On a whim I painted "WAR FISH" on the side, along with a fish with a can of black spray paint. I posted it on maries website, and stated my intentions to wage war on the spit and shine guys.
the camo was a joke that turned into something cool.
I wanted to paint dads car flat black and call it "ugly stick" He was not in love with that idea, so he picked out the desert camo idea. Missy drew it up I layed it out and larry jordon here in jackson painted it in a week. No 6 month paint jobs around here. My car took a week to paint also.
glad to see some action on here again. like the old pics too.
cw
Posted By: VernMotor
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/31/07 10:49 PM
Thanks ! I allways wonder why. Now I know
Posted By: warfish
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 12/31/07 11:49 PM
Quote:
I need some info if you SS guys can help me out. What compression are the SS motors making in 04-05-06. I have a SS motor just had it freshend up and installed all new pistons and i think the compression is off.
Rob
the dome is 105, the chamber is 168, whatever it comes out to. I think it is 13 something. we work on cc specs, and try to max it out. I think you had the booker motor didnt you? probably had a small dome as is usually the case with brand "B" motors.
I cant believe the normal tech expert didnt jump on that one, hope that helps.
cw
Posted By: AMXDuster
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/31/07 11:54 PM
At Joliet in June, Happy New Year!
Arvid Svendsen
Arvid Svendsen
Posted By: AMXDuster
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/31/07 11:56 PM
Another at Joliet, June.
Posted By: AMXDuster
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 01/01/08 12:30 AM
Again, Div. 3, June.
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/01/08 04:45 AM
Great pictures,Where did you get these,I've never seen these before.Hey Charlie where's your horn?Happy New Year.Spit and Shine Guy. 
Posted By: AMXDuster
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/01/08 05:38 AM
I took them at the event, got some more I'll post.
What's the latest news over there?
Arvid
What's the latest news over there?
Arvid
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/01/08 06:15 AM
Quote:Quote:
I need some info if you SS guys can help me out. What compression are the SS motors making in 04-05-06. I have a SS motor just had it freshend up and installed all new pistons and i think the compression is off.
Rob
the dome is 105, the chamber is 168, whatever it comes out to. I think it is 13 something. we work on cc specs, and try to max it out. I think you had the booker motor didnt you? probably had a small dome as is usually the case with brand "B" motors.
I cant believe the normal tech expert didnt jump on that one, hope that helps.
cw
Thanks CW yes it is a Booker motor.. Built and raced in 2005 from Barton.... I asked for the paper So I will be taking it to the dyno soon its all done...on the motor with the specs as far as dyno and they are no help whats so ever...I have the specs on the new pistons i think its a 105 or 106 dome... I have to check the paper work. I was wondering is the formula differenet for a Hemi vs a wedge for figuring out the Compression?
Thanks
Rob
Posted By: SSDAcuda
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/01/08 12:40 PM
Quote:
[ I was wondering is the formula differenet for a Hemi vs a wedge for figuring out the Compression?
Thanks
Rob
No, Same formula, Just a MUCH bigger dome volume.
Posted By: YbNoRmAL
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/01/08 03:45 PM
Same here Bucky, I love those old vintage pics like that. Thanks Stewart. Happy New Year.
Happy New Year.
Posted By: AMXDuster
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 01/01/08 05:32 PM
Warfish with "King Cuda" target.
Posted By: 68Fastback
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/01/08 09:15 PM
Hey Bucky how is the new car coming along and your A990. Any pictures of the progress.
Jesse
Jesse
Posted By: cgall
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/01/08 09:22 PM
Looks like quite a variety of tires in those pics just posted, GY, M/T, PHX, Hoosier.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/02/08 03:17 AM
'68 Barracuda, SS/AH, 8.867, -0.933
Posted By: Troy
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/02/08 04:00 AM
Is is just me or are we seeing a trend with these cars sitting much lower? Both the front and the rear of these cars are much lower that I have ever seen. Maybe I'm just 
Posted By: Chris2581
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/02/08 04:07 AM
You're not seeing things Troy,I noticed it too.
I would still would like to know how the SS/AH cars are getting the front ends that low.Any of the owners/drivers care to answer??
I would still would like to know how the SS/AH cars are getting the front ends that low.Any of the owners/drivers care to answer??
Posted By: HemiDart68
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/02/08 04:10 AM
Quote:
You're not seeing things Troy,I noticed it too.
I would still would like to know how the SS/AH cars are getting the front ends that low.Any of the owners/drivers care to answer??
Alot of them have bumps or little wheel tubs almost in the inner fenders so the tire does not hit it. NHRA was talking about not allowing those for this year, not sure of the definate answer on it, but it could be an issue for alot of these cars.
Posted By: YbNoRmAL
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/02/08 02:20 PM
Quote:. I've noticed that for some time but they appear they have gone even lower. Go back to pg 2 and check out Depillo's car (beautiful car). And I noticed Joe Faherty's new car at the Finals this year. How low can you go? Amazing they can get a Hemi with intake and carbs between the hood and K member on an A body, Ain't they COOL.
Is is just me or are we seeing a trend with these cars sitting much lower? Both the front and the rear of these cars are much lower that I have ever seen. Maybe I'm just
Posted By: JERICOGTX
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/02/08 02:25 PM
The added humps in the fenderwells, are NOT legal in Super Stock. NHRA made a announcment late in the year, against this.
Posted By: JAKE68
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/02/08 03:21 PM
Last I heard was that they need to be put back to stock. I heard that NHRA was going to make a template for checking.????????????????
Posted By: mr2performance
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/02/08 06:34 PM
Even if they do have a template it won't matter. What are they going to make us do, beat the inner fenders back down after every pass. They need a ride height spec. Mike
Posted By: moderncylinder
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/02/08 06:41 PM
the car that i bought from jerry caro is probably one of the best 60 ft'ing cars out there and is as low or close to anyones out there. it has no humps, bumps, or anything,, the inner fenders are stock. you can see where the tire has rubbed but after 70 or so runs,, no dents or any movement from the fender.
jeff
jeff
Posted By: 1pieman426
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/02/08 06:47 PM
go ahead and post some pic. bucky i know you have better pic. then i do if you cant figure it out have travis do it we could not be happier 
Posted By: warfish
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/02/08 07:23 PM
from the info I've been told, I dont think anyone needs to worry about a template. its all a non issue, just like some other issues that have been brought up by the whiners lately. the added front wheel tubs are the only issue they had, and that is the only issue I think will be addressed.
so jeff, when you gonna unleash that 60 ft monster?
cw
so jeff, when you gonna unleash that 60 ft monster?
cw
Posted By: B1CUDA
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/02/08 09:40 PM
Hey Warfish, Are you planning on coming out to the Mopars at the Strip in Vegas this year? If so, maybe you and I can line em up for a little extra cash? You seem to be the top dog, so I figured I would like to line up with you. My car is also a 68 Barracuda, Full bodied 25.5, 3000+ lbs., on a little itty bitty 10.5 x 29.5 x 15 tire, with no power adders. What do you say? I am ready for anything, free race, low dollar, high dollar? Looking forward to your reply.
Posted By: 68Fastback
Re: SS/AH Hemi versus Wedge Match Race - 01/02/08 09:53 PM
Hey Chris do you still have primer on the car.
Jesse
Jesse
Posted By: B1CUDA
Re: SS/AH Hemi versus Wedge Match Race - 01/02/08 09:59 PM
Quote:
Hey Chris do you still have primer on the car.
Jesse
Hi Jesse! No, the car is painted Viper Silver. (I guess it falls into the "Spit Shine" category now)
Posted By: warfish
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/02/08 10:18 PM
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Hey Warfish, Are you planning on coming out to the Mopars at the Strip in Vegas this year? If so, maybe you and I can line em up for a little extra cash? You seem to be the top dog, so I figured I would like to line up with you. My car is also a 68 Barracuda, Full bodied 25.5, 3000+ lbs., on a little itty bitty 10.5 x 29.5 x 15 tire, with no power adders. What do you say? I am ready for anything, free race, low dollar, high dollar? Looking forward to your reply.
I plan to go, but you never know. will you be running in the shootout? I've never heard of you. I guess if you run in that maybe we can match up with the same rules, or maybe I can stuff 800 inches in my car and go challange greg anderson to a match race.
later
cw
Posted By: 68Fastback
Re: SS/AH Hemi versus Wedge Match Race - 01/02/08 10:55 PM
Are you going to the Fontana test and tune on the 18th.
Jesse
Jesse
Posted By: mr2performance
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/02/08 11:37 PM
I plan to go, but you never know. will you be running in the shootout? I've never heard of you. I guess if you run in that maybe we can match up with the same rules, or maybe I can stuff 800 inches in my car and go challange greg anderson to a match race.
later
cw
later
cw
Posted By: B1CUDA
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/02/08 11:48 PM
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Hey Warfish, Are you planning on coming out to the Mopars at the Strip in Vegas this year? If so, maybe you and I can line em up for a little extra cash? You seem to be the top dog, so I figured I would like to line up with you. My car is also a 68 Barracuda, Full bodied 25.5, 3000+ lbs., on a little itty bitty 10.5 x 29.5 x 15 tire, with no power adders. What do you say? I am ready for anything, free race, low dollar, high dollar? Looking forward to your reply.
I plan to go, but you never know. will you be running in the shootout? I've never heard of you. I guess if you run in that maybe we can match up with the same rules, or maybe I can stuff 800 inches in my car and go challange greg anderson to a match race.
later
cw
Nobody has ever heard of me. I'm just another loser with a car that would love to race you. My car has a 500" B-1 motor, ladder bar, M/T 10.5 X 29.5 slicks, etc., etc. (Shouldn't scare a "Big Dog" like yourself)
I spoke to Chris Blair (Vegas boss) about doing a "Wedge vs. Hemi" type of race, and was given the green light. I figure since you are the top dog, you are the one that I will need to go after. It is really no big deal, you in your Hemi that everybody knows about, against me in my wedge powered Cuda, that nobody knows about? Sound like fun? I will be happy to meet any rules that you want to set forth. Trust me, if they allowed me to run in the Shootout, I would pay double the entry fee just to get in. This is no B.S., I am seriously asking you if you are interested in doing something like this. Let me know so that I can make the proper arrangements with the track.
Posted By: B1CUDA
Re: SS/AH Hemi versus Wedge Match Race - 01/02/08 11:49 PM
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Are you going to the Fontana test and tune on the 18th.
Jesse
No, not making it out for that test. We did, however, rent Vegas for early February.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: SS/AH Hemi versus Wedge Match Race - 01/03/08 12:52 AM
Hey B1 how fast will that thing of yours run? I'm not being a smart [Edited by Moparts - Keep it clean] just curious. It will probably be hard to strike up a match race with a SS/AH guy unless you got some outside money and both cars get paid regardless of who wins. Oh and don't use the little tire as a tool to try to sucker someone in. I've been near pro stock e.t's on a 10.5" tire and most SS/AH guys know the performance potential doesn't rely on the tire size. Good luck in getting something lined up...
Posted By: B1CUDA
Re: SS/AH Hemi versus Wedge Match Race - 01/03/08 01:08 AM
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Hey B1 how fast will that thing of yours run? I'm not being a smart [Edited by Moparts - Keep it clean] just curious. It will probably be hard to strike up a match race with a SS/AH guy unless you got some outside money and both cars get paid regardless of who wins. Oh and don't use the little tire as a tool to try to sucker someone in. I've been near pro stock e.t's on a 10.5" tire and most SS/AH guys know the performance potential doesn't rely on the tire size. Good luck in getting something lined up...
I will be happy to answer your question(s), but, I want to make it very clear that I am not coming on here, beating on my chest, saying that I will whip everyone. I will let my car do the talking on the track. I am also not looking to get into a pi$$ing contest, I don't have time for it. As far as paying a SS/AH guy to race me? Huh? If it takes money for someone to line em up, so be it. As far as the tire on my car is concerned.....That is what I have, I am not trying to "Sucker" anyone.
Last time I checked, the SS/AH cars had four links and a much bigger slick than what I am using. Just stating the facts, plain and simple. Heck, I will throw a set of ET Streets on it, if it will make people feel better. To answer your question about how fast my car will be? I wouldn't be hitting up some of the fastest Super Stock Racers in the country if I didn't think I could hang. I just want to have some fun with them.
Posted By: 68Fastback
Re: SS/AH Hemi versus Wedge Match Race - 01/03/08 01:11 AM
Hey Chris what are you gonna run at the Vegas test date. And I hope Chris Blair makes the Match race thing work out, have you talked to Michael Ogburn or Rick Houser about it cause the West Coast Hemi's love that track.
Jesse
Jesse
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Are you going to the Fontana test and tune on the 18th.
Jesse
No, not making it out for that test. We did, however, rent Vegas for early February.
Posted By: B1CUDA
Re: SS/AH Hemi versus Wedge Match Race - 01/03/08 01:20 AM
We are taking our Pro Mod Viper and my Cuda. I spoke to Ogburn about the match race deal awhile ago, but, my car wasn't ready, so it was kind of a moot point at the time. I am ready to play now.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: SS/AH Hemi versus Wedge Match Race - 01/03/08 01:20 AM
B1 you took everything i wrote WAY out of context but i am noticing that is normal on this board. I was just curious what your car runs and letting you know that if you had an outside source to pay both cars for the match race then it would be more of a reality to get it done. My comments about the tire size came from you making notes of it on a few different occasions and seemingly using it as bait for someone to wanna run you. Yes i know we have bigger tires and 4 links on the SS/AH cars, i should know i work on 3 of them and drive one. And i'm not beating my chest or getting into a pissing match either i was actually curious to see it get lined up and thought i was helping you but as usual i wasted my time on this board.
Posted By: HemiDart68
Re: SS/AH Hemi versus Wedge Match Race - 01/03/08 01:25 AM
I don't see what the point is of this match race. A legal SS/AH has restrictions such as weight, cubic inch, carbs, etc. Why would someone with a legal car want to race a car a car that is built with zero constraints. You can run any cylinder head, carb, weight, cubes etc. If the B1 cuda goes faster it really proves nothing.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: SS/AH Hemi versus Wedge Match Race - 01/03/08 01:29 AM
You're right hemi dart it would prove nothing either way but i like a good match race and when theres a little good natured smack talk it makes it fun. But if i were gonna run B1 in a match race with one of the SS/AH cars i work on and drive i promise it wouldn't have a legal motor, carbs, or weight...lol.
Posted By: B1CUDA
Re: SS/AH Hemi versus Wedge Match Race - 01/03/08 01:49 AM
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B1 you took everything i wrote WAY out of context but i am noticing that is normal on this board. I was just curious what your car runs and letting you know that if you had an outside source to pay both cars for the match race then it would be more of a reality to get it done. My comments about the tire size came from you making notes of it on a few different occasions and seemingly using it as bait for someone to wanna run you. Yes i know we have bigger tires and 4 links on the SS/AH cars, i should know i work on 3 of them and drive one. And i'm not beating my chest or getting into a pissing match either i was actually curious to see it get lined up and thought i was helping you but as usual i wasted my time on this board.
I actually agree with you 100% about this board. I think you mis-understood what I was saying about not wanting to get into a "Pee-Pee" contest. That was not aimed at you in any way, I just know how things get stupid real quick on this board. Please take no offense as none was meant in any way. Yes, I do agree with the fact that my car does have differences when comparing it to the SS/AH cars, but, I feel that they would put on a good show. I truly want to have a Hemi vs. Wedge race, and with the ET's and MPH that some of the faster SS/AH cars run, I feel that it would be a fair race, considering my car will run right with them. Please understand that my intention was to have fun, first and foremost. To be perfectly honest, I had reservations about posting any of this on this board, and having it become some sort of circus. If this is a money issue, I will be happy to put up my fair share and than some. I just thought that the idea would be cool, nothing more, nothing less. (Trust me, I am really one of the good guys)
Posted By: B1CUDA
Re: SS/AH Hemi versus Wedge Match Race - 01/03/08 01:54 AM
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I don't see what the point is of this match race. A legal SS/AH has restrictions such as weight, cubic inch, carbs, etc. Why would someone with a legal car want to race a car a car that is built with zero constraints. You can run any cylinder head, carb, weight, cubes etc. If the B1 cuda goes faster it really proves nothing.
HemiDart, I agree with you to a point. My car may not be a legal SS/AH car, but, it was built to meet the rules in the class that I will be running it in. I must meet several constraints. There are weight penalties, cubic inch penalties, etc., etc.
This is kind of Apples to Oranges, but, I still think it would be cool to have a Wedge vs. Hemi Match Race. This is all in good fun.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: SS/AH Hemi versus Wedge Match Race - 01/03/08 02:11 AM
B1 no problem, no offense taken. You probably don't know who i am anyway, i'm new to the hemi stuff. I've been a chevy comp eliminator racer the last 9 years and have raced chevy stockers and superstockers, though i do have some wallys i am proud of. I've also been driving a guy in Texas' outlaw 10.5 car the last few years. I now work for the Teutons building there engines and driving the red car with the flames on it on the previous page. If we come to vegas i would be up for the match race if you find no other takers.
Allen
Allen
Posted By: ksj
Re: SS/AH Hemi versus Wedge Match Race - 01/03/08 02:15 AM
Looks like there will be a familiar tri-color Cuda back in S/S
http://www.moparmax.com/features/interview/iii_1-martin-1.html
http://www.moparmax.com/features/interview/iii_1-martin-1.html
Posted By: B1CUDA
Re: SS/AH Hemi versus Wedge Match Race - 01/03/08 02:32 AM
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B1 no problem, no offense taken. You probably don't know who i am anyway, i'm new to the hemi stuff. I've been a chevy comp eliminator racer the last 9 years and have raced chevy stockers and superstockers, though i do have some wallys i am proud of. I've also been driving a guy in Texas' outlaw 10.5 car the last few years. I now work for the Teutons building there engines and driving the red car with the flames on it on the previous page. If we come to vegas i would be up for the match race if you find no other takers.
Allen
I have spoken with the Teuton's on several occasions when they have attended the Winternationals and World Finals out here in Pomona. They are all very nice people. I appreciate the offer to race, and will keep you posted. Have a good night, Chris
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/03/08 11:13 AM
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Hey Warfish, Are you planning on coming out to the Mopars at the Strip in Vegas this year? If so, maybe you and I can line em up for a little extra cash? You seem to be the top dog, so I figured I would like to line up with you. My car is also a 68 Barracuda, Full bodied 25.5, 3000+ lbs., on a little itty bitty 10.5 x 29.5 x 15 tire, with no power adders. What do you say? I am ready for anything, free race, low dollar, high dollar? Looking forward to your reply.
Better yet, why don't you put your car at 3563 lbs. and show up legal for SS/AM so you are racing against those with similar parts, and see how long you toot your horn eh? - build a legal SS/AH or go back under your rock bracket racer.
Posted By: lowbudget
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/03/08 02:30 PM
"Better yet, why don't you put your car at 3563 lbs. and show up legal for SS/AM so you are racing against those with similar parts, and see how long you toot your horn eh? - build a legal SS/AH or go back under your rock bracket racer.
"I dont see where dude was "tooting his horn" here. It looks like he's just trying to have a little fun..like maybe you should be doing..u know like something positive with your life, insted of lurking on the internet, waiting to jump on anyone who dosent think like you
Its easy to criticize what you dont understand. Besides I dont think he's a "bracket racer living under a rock" again your misinformed...carry on
Posted By: JC Childress
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/03/08 07:47 PM
I am fairly new on here ( used to be a member years ago ), but I am excited about all the SS/AH popularity ! It would be my dream to drive a SS/AH car. I have several friends in this class. The Teutons have been good friends of mine for years, Bucky has been a friend for years and the other week I had the pleasure of speaking with Charlie Westcott Jr. and he was super helpful. I know he may offend some folks but I think its all in good fun and competition( if you have thin skin, then you shouldnt be racing anyway ).He just tells it like it is. I know that whenever I get around to getting my Duster done, I may be giving him a call about doing some work on the engine !
I hope everyone in the SS/AH has a wonderful season.
I am curious as to just how many new cars are being built, and how many new engine builders will be seeing what they can do with a Hemi ?
I hope everyone in the SS/AH has a wonderful season.
I am curious as to just how many new cars are being built, and how many new engine builders will be seeing what they can do with a Hemi ?
Posted By: Joe Grippo
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/03/08 08:57 PM
Panella, Bailey, Garcia, Sox and Martin...Very Cool. I hope to see this car in '08!
Posted By: JC Childress
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/03/08 09:25 PM
You'll see it, but the Sox part wont be there unfortunately. I miss him like you cant imagine. I'm proud to say he was a very close friend. He left behind a wonderful wife that is doing great things for St. Jude. I know hes proud.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/04/08 12:17 AM
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Posted By: B1Frank
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/06/08 12:38 AM
I miss talking to Ronnie , He was in Herbs Mccandles shop every week. Good By my Friend ! 
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Posted By: B1Frank
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/06/08 02:07 AM
Posted By: Al_Alguire
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/06/08 05:43 PM
Hey Chris maybe you should pick on a different Hemi Powered Cuda....I can bolt in a bottle too 
Posted By: B1CUDA
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/07/08 01:23 AM
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Hey Chris maybe you should pick on a different Hemi Powered Cuda....I can bolt in a bottle too
Al, First of all, I wasn't picking on anyone. I came on here with the best of intentions, and they were twisted beyond belief. My goal was to try to set up some sort of a Wedge vs. Hemi Race, nothing more, nothing less. If I came across to some folks like I was pounding my chest, well, that was not intended. The funny thing about this is that I actually thought that this would be fun......What was I thinking? Fun? No, this is Moparts, where every single thing said is scrutinized over and over again.
I would have bent over backwards to help anyone else set up this race. I will go to this race with my friends and have a good time, regardless of what happens. Furthermore, if you and I happen to meet (which I hope we do), it would be fun to race you. Do you really need a bottle? I will now go back into my cave and refrain from posting on this board again. See ya in Vegas.
Posted By: JERICOGTX
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/07/08 01:39 PM
What rear gear are the 4 speed cars running in SS/AH?
Jeff
Jeff
Posted By: Al_Alguire
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/07/08 04:48 PM
Chris-You know I am only poking fun at ya....I know you are probably more than anxious to get out there and put a whoppin on me...And heck yeah I need a bottle my car is a turd there are Stockers here that out 60' me
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/07/08 05:34 PM
Charlie, I got a new seat for my high HP riding lawn mower for Christmas. It was from the Michigan Seat Company in Jackson, MI. It had ported air valves, large cams on the armrests, and several other High Performance features. You working for them on the side? Jeff Teuton
Posted By: JC Childress
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/07/08 06:54 PM
Posted By: warfish
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/08/08 12:36 AM
that place makes seats for alot of companies, we know the people that own it, we have done some work for them (irrigation work). Its probably one of the few things that you can get from the usa anymore.
Posted By: REHBERGERRACING
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/08/08 03:21 AM
Hey Charlie....what brand of torque converter are the ss/ah guys using? What are you using?
Thanks
Thanks
Posted By: warfish
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/08/08 02:13 PM
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Hey Charlie....what brand of torque converter are the ss/ah guys using? What are you using?
Thanks
ATI is hard to beat, you can call them in the morning, and it will go out that afternoon. I had A-1 make me one, it took 3 months, and it didnt work anyways. so I guess I could send it back and wait another 3 months to have it changed.
Posted By: JC Childress
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/08/08 06:14 PM
Any chance you'll ever put a stick in your car Charlie ?
Posted By: REHBERGERRACING
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/09/08 12:20 AM
ATI is hard to beat, you can call them in the morning, and it will go out that afternoon. I had A-1 make me one, it took 3 months, and it didnt work anyways. so I guess I could send it back and wait another 3 months to have it changed.
Thanks for the info.
Posted By: warfish
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/09/08 01:23 AM
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Any chance you'll ever put a stick in your car Charlie ?
Posted By: wldtm
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/09/08 01:43 AM
thought that was in the works??? or a new stick car for charlie?? see sig below!
Posted By: 68hemiss
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/09/08 04:28 AM
Just wanted to let everyone know that there will be a Hemi Reunion celebrating the 40th aniversary of the 1968 Hemi Darts & Barracudas the weekend before Indy at Quaker City Dragway. We are hoping to get 50 original 68 Hemi S/S cars to attend. This is open to 64-68 factory Hemi S/S cars, clones, current SS/AH cars, Hemi street & race cars, ect... Check allhemireunion.cm for details.
Mark J
Mark J
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/12/08 02:04 AM
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Hey Charlie....what brand of torque converter are the ss/ah guys using? What are you using?
Thanks
ATI is hard to beat, you can call them in the morning, and it will go out that afternoon. I had A-1 make me one, it took 3 months, and it didnt work anyways. so I guess I could send it back and wait another 3 months to have it changed.
Hey Charlie what kind of stall are we talking. I have one of Mike Bookers ATI in a box from his car but i have no idea what stall it is? I dont plan on spinning the motor as high as you guys run them but i believe the stall has to be high.
Rob
Posted By: warfish
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/12/08 06:47 PM
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Hey Charlie what kind of stall are we talking. I have one of Mike Bookers ATI in a box from his car but i have no idea what stall it is? I dont plan on spinning the motor as high as you guys run them but i believe the stall has to be high.
Rob
probably 6500
Hey Charlie what kind of stall are we talking. I have one of Mike Bookers ATI in a box from his car but i have no idea what stall it is? I dont plan on spinning the motor as high as you guys run them but i believe the stall has to be high.
Rob
probably 6500
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/12/08 07:45 PM
Thanks CW.....
Rob
Rob
Posted By: RapidusMaximus
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/13/08 02:07 AM
I think this thread is cool...why is B-1 bailing on this board? It's winter time the heck else are we supposed to but participate in some serious bench racing... ...dude...kinda like golf...just grip it and rip it... ...love the AH cars...would REALLY love to drive one ...hang in there guys it's almost spring...went to the machine shop (Brad Klein/DreamChaser Motorsports) short block is ready for assembly...I'm starting to get "in the mood"...Ennis in March...let's go...
...dude...kinda like golf...just grip it and rip it... ...love the AH cars...would REALLY love to drive one ...hang in there guys it's almost spring...went to the machine shop (Brad Klein/DreamChaser Motorsports) short block is ready for assembly...I'm starting to get "in the mood"...Ennis in March...let's go...
Posted By: YbNoRmAL
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/13/08 04:21 AM
6500, No Joke? I would've never quessed that.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/13/08 08:48 PM
Thanks Racerbill..... I guess will see how it runs once in the car..
Posted By: 68Fastback
Re: SS/AH Hemi versus Wedge Match Race - 01/14/08 12:01 AM
I think B1Cuda\Chris is bailing cause this thread looks just like the threads on Marie's board, you got keyboard Bozo's using names like John Force instead of being a man and using their true name to hammer on anyone who doesn't share one guys view or agenda.
I know Chris he is a good guy and wanted to have some fun, he probably would have donated whatever money to a charity for military personel.
It's a shame that with the money some of these teams have why not just get your own website where you can have a lovefest with the groupies, this site Moparts is supposed to be a place where guys can exchange views, knowledge and try to learn from the best. Allen Johnson comes on here and you don't see him bashing anyone.
Jesse
I know Chris he is a good guy and wanted to have some fun, he probably would have donated whatever money to a charity for military personel.
It's a shame that with the money some of these teams have why not just get your own website where you can have a lovefest with the groupies, this site Moparts is supposed to be a place where guys can exchange views, knowledge and try to learn from the best. Allen Johnson comes on here and you don't see him bashing anyone.
Jesse
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I think this thread is cool...why is B-1 bailing on this board? It's winter time the heck else are we supposed to but participate in some serious bench racing...
Posted By: Jared_Jordan
Re: SS/AH Hemi versus Wedge Match Race - 01/14/08 01:24 AM
Just as a testament to how good the ATI Converters are I thought I'd share a little story. In November of '03, we took the SS/BA Belvedere to Las Vegas with a different brand converter in the car. It ran a 9.27 @ 140 in REALLY good air for Vegas. Cold, no wind, dry, you get the idea. The following March we took the car back to Vegas with no other changes made than the ATI converter. The weather was in the 90's all weekend long with a slight headwind. The car went 9.33 @ 141. A difference of only .06 when the other cars that had run both races had slowed .15 to .20. The following November, the car went 9.15 @ 142 in conditions that were very similar to the prior year. Again, no other changes were made but the converter. We had thought the old converter was doing a pretty good job until we stuck the ATI in there! Almost a solid .15 quicker than the old one.
Posted By: REHBERGERRACING
Re: SS/AH Hemi versus Wedge Match Race - 01/14/08 03:01 AM
Quote:Thanks for that bit of info. I've been waiting to see if anyone else was going add to this. Thanks again
Just as a testament to how good the ATI Converters are I thought I'd share a little story. In November of '03, we took the SS/BA Belvedere to Las Vegas with a different brand converter in the car. It ran a 9.27 @ 140 in REALLY good air for Vegas. Cold, no wind, dry, you get the idea. The following March we took the car back to Vegas with no other changes made than the ATI converter. The weather was in the 90's all weekend long with a slight headwind. The car went 9.33 @ 141. A difference of only .06 when the other cars that had run both races had slowed .15 to .20. The following November, the car went 9.15 @ 142 in conditions that were very similar to the prior year. Again, no other changes were made but the converter. We had thought the old converter was doing a pretty good job until we stuck the ATI in there! Almost a solid .15 quicker than the old one.
Posted By: Mike Swann
Re: SS/AH Hemi versus Wedge Match Race - 01/14/08 03:27 AM
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Just as a testament to how good the ATI Converters are I thought I'd share a little story. In November of '03, we took the SS/BA Belvedere to Las Vegas with a different brand converter in the car. It ran a 9.27 @ 140 in REALLY good air for Vegas. Cold, no wind, dry, you get the idea. The following March we took the car back to Vegas with no other changes made than the ATI converter. The weather was in the 90's all weekend long with a slight headwind. The car went 9.33 @ 141. A difference of only .06 when the other cars that had run both races had slowed .15 to .20. The following November, the car went 9.15 @ 142 in conditions that were very similar to the prior year. Again, no other changes were made but the converter. We had thought the old converter was doing a pretty good job until we stuck the ATI in there! Almost a solid .15 quicker than the old one.
Can you comment on what weight that was at? What size convertor?
The reason I am asking is my legacy 7.50 cert is expiring this year and do not want to go 25.2 with this car. Planning on slowing it down and enjoying it more.
Thanks Mike
Posted By: Jared_Jordan
Re: SS/AH Hemi versus Wedge Match Race - 01/14/08 05:21 PM
Quote:Quote:
Just as a testament to how good the ATI Converters are I thought I'd share a little story. In November of '03, we took the SS/BA Belvedere to Las Vegas with a different brand converter in the car. It ran a 9.27 @ 140 in REALLY good air for Vegas. Cold, no wind, dry, you get the idea. The following March we took the car back to Vegas with no other changes made than the ATI converter. The weather was in the 90's all weekend long with a slight headwind. The car went 9.33 @ 141. A difference of only .06 when the other cars that had run both races had slowed .15 to .20. The following November, the car went 9.15 @ 142 in conditions that were very similar to the prior year. Again, no other changes were made but the converter. We had thought the old converter was doing a pretty good job until we stuck the ATI in there! Almost a solid .15 quicker than the old one.
Can you comment on what weight that was at? What size convertor?
The reason I am asking is my legacy 7.50 cert is expiring this year and do not want to go 25.2 with this car. Planning on slowing it down and enjoying it more.
Thanks Mike
Mike,
The legal minimum weight for the car is 3420 lbs. We usually run it pretty close to that. No more than about 30-40 lbs. over. The converter is 8". If you have any other questions don't be afraid to ask.
Jared
Posted By: mbogina
Re: SS/AH Hemi versus Wedge Match Race - 01/14/08 06:40 PM
I agree with Jared on the ATI convertors, historically they have been the quickest, fastest and most efficient of all the brands that we have tried. As Charlie stated, service and delivery is the fastest around. Also, we have found that only ATI can truly duplicate an existing convertor for stall, efficiency and ET/MPH. My ATI convertor currently stalls 64-6600, depending on weather/track conditions. We don't run the best 60's out there, but they aren't too bad for a 3630 lb SS/DA (best of 1.249 in 2007, 9.33/141).
Posted By: Billet426
Re: SS/AH Hemi versus Wedge Match Race - 01/14/08 11:28 PM
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It's a shame that with the money some of these teams have why not just get your own website where you can have a lovefest with the groupies
Could not have said it better
Posted By: Jared_Jordan
Re: SS/AH Hemi versus Wedge Match Race - 01/14/08 11:55 PM
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I agree with Jared on the ATI convertors, historically they have been the quickest, fastest and most efficient of all the brands that we have tried. As Charlie stated, service and delivery is the fastest around. Also, we have found that only ATI can truly duplicate an existing convertor for stall, efficiency and ET/MPH. My ATI convertor currently stalls 64-6600, depending on weather/track conditions. We don't run the best 60's out there, but they aren't too bad for a 3630 lb SS/DA (best of 1.249 in 2007, 9.33/141).
1.249 in a heavy car like that sounds pretty good to me!!
Posted By: Dyno1
ATI Sale - 01/15/08 01:42 AM
I ordered my convertor from Charlie at ATI today. The sale they are having ends Friday. Dyno
Posted By: crc
Re: ATI Sale - 01/15/08 01:55 AM
Hey Dyno-
Any new pics of your car you could post?
Thanks!
Any new pics of your car you could post?
Thanks!
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: SS/AH Hemi versus Wedge Match Race - 01/15/08 02:14 AM
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Just as a testament to how good the ATI Converters are I thought I'd share a little story. In November of '03, we took the SS/BA Belvedere to Las Vegas with a different brand converter in the car. It ran a 9.27 @ 140 in REALLY good air for Vegas. Cold, no wind, dry, you get the idea. The following March we took the car back to Vegas with no other changes made than the ATI converter. The weather was in the 90's all weekend long with a slight headwind. The car went 9.33 @ 141. A difference of only .06 when the other cars that had run both races had slowed .15 to .20. The following November, the car went 9.15 @ 142 in conditions that were very similar to the prior year. Again, no other changes were made but the converter. We had thought the old converter was doing a pretty good job until we stuck the ATI in there! Almost a solid .15 quicker than the old one.
Can you comment on what weight that was at? What size convertor?
The reason I am asking is my legacy 7.50 cert is expiring this year and do not want to go 25.2 with this car. Planning on slowing it down and enjoying it more.
Thanks Mike
Mike,
The legal minimum weight for the car is 3420 lbs. We usually run it pretty close to that. No more than about 30-40 lbs. over. The converter is 8". If you have any other questions don't be afraid to ask.
Jared
Hi Jared thanks for the info.. I have a ATI that came from a SS Cuda I guess ATI will have info on that converter the box has a part number on it. Do they stamp a number on there converters as well?
Rob
Posted By: Dyno1
Re: ATI Sale - 01/15/08 02:51 AM
I have not been able to work on the car in the last month since this picture was taken, but I have been burning up the phone ordering the final pieces of a very large project. Bumpers and front grill go in next. Dyno
Posted By: crc
Re: ATI Sale - 01/15/08 03:56 AM
It's looking great. Please keep the photos coming.
Posted By: Greg
Re: ATI Sale - 01/15/08 01:27 PM
I see Don Brotherton must have bought the whole S&S racing operation. Some of the cars are on racing junk but none of the barracuda's.
Posted By: Chris2581
Re: ATI Sale - 01/15/08 02:19 PM
Quote:
I have not been able to work on the car in the last month since this picture was taken, but I have been burning up the phone ordering the final pieces of a very large project. Bumpers and front grill go in next. Dyno
Dan,
When you get the time,can you post more pics of your car?? Personally I'd like to see all of it,it's that nice of a car.
Posted By: JERICOGTX
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/15/08 02:26 PM
Dan, did Goldie paint the Barracuda for you?
Posted By: StewartP
Re: ATI Sale - 01/15/08 07:00 PM
Greg - can you supply a link to the S&S stuff on racing junk ?
Thanks
StewartP
Thanks
StewartP
Posted By: Greg
Re: ATI Sale - 01/15/08 07:55 PM
Posted By: Billet426
Re: ATI Sale - 01/15/08 10:32 PM
That Gold Coast car in NICE.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: ATI Sale - 01/16/08 12:04 AM
anybody know what is going on withn S&S racing
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: ATI Sale - 01/16/08 01:19 AM
i no it deals with them and the irs.....
casey
casey
Posted By: B1Frank
Re: ATI Sale - 01/16/08 01:57 AM
It was a BIG-TIME-BOMB, That is why i left, with NO pay ! 
NO pay !
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: ATI Sale - 01/16/08 03:09 AM
Quote:
I have not been able to work on the car in the last month since this picture was taken, but I have been burning up the phone ordering the final pieces of a very large project. Bumpers and front grill go in next. Dyno
Great looking car Dyno and great luck with it....
NoJoke
Posted By: YbNoRmAL
Re: ATI Sale - 01/16/08 10:39 AM
Hey Stewart, I noticed S&S racing has one of your beloved Dodge COLTS for sale also. Dallas Motorsports Marketing has 3 S&S cars for sale but none of the Hemi stuff is listed.
Posted By: JERICOGTX
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/16/08 05:16 PM
Is Bucky Hess building a new car, now that he sold the old one?
Posted By: JulieJordan
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/16/08 05:37 PM
Quote:
Is Bucky Hess building a new car, now that he sold the old one?
Yes. Phil Mandella (PMR Racing) is building him a new Cuda.
Posted By: 68Fastback
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/16/08 06:20 PM
Hey Julie did you get a chance to see it, I hear its done or almost done.
Jesse
Jesse
Posted By: JulieJordan
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/16/08 07:32 PM
No, Jesse, I haven't seen it. Last I heard it was getting close.
Posted By: crc
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/16/08 11:46 PM
Who bought Bucky's old car?
Posted By: JulieJordan
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/17/08 01:08 AM
Quote:
Who bought Bucky's old car?
L'il Joe Teuton
Posted By: B1CUDA
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/17/08 06:43 AM
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No, Jesse, I haven't seen it. Last I heard it was getting close.
Bucky's car is finished and left PMR on Monday. Once again, PMR did an outstanding job.
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/17/08 07:01 PM
Still waiting.Hope to have it next week.Am currently working on Big Joe's a990 love it.Changing interior back to how it came in 1965.And putting a new front plate to fit my motor.and a mid plate.then I will need to have a set of headers made and an oil pan.Probably will not have time to paint it.Want to get started on the cuda.Alot of spit and shine to do.Ya Know. Bucky, Hows doin
Bucky, Hows doin
Posted By: JERICOGTX
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/17/08 07:12 PM
What is the new Cuda going to look like, or do you guys come up with the ideas on the fly? More gold leaf and lace paint?
Jeff
Jeff
Posted By: warfish
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/17/08 07:31 PM
Quote:
What is the new Cuda going to look like, or do you guys come up with the ideas on the fly? More gold leaf and lace paint?
Jeff
I will let bucky use my design if he wants
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/17/08 08:53 PM
Charlie you better keep that for your new car.it's perfect .No spit or shine for that one. Bucky Where's the ?
Bucky Where's the ?
Posted By: cudadoug
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/17/08 10:56 PM
Quote:Quote:
What is the new Cuda going to look like, or do you guys come up with the ideas on the fly? More gold leaf and lace paint?
Jeff
I will let bucky use my design if he wants
I don't care who ya are, THAT'S funny, right there.
Posted By: JulieJordan
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/18/08 03:24 AM
Quote:
Still waiting.Hope to have it next week.Am currently working on Big Joe's a990 love it.Changing interior back to how it came in 1965.And putting a new front plate to fit my motor.and a mid plate.then I will need to have a set of headers made and an oil pan.Probably will not have time to paint it.Want to get started on the cuda.Alot of spit and shine to do.Ya Know.
Hi Bucky and Happy New Year! When are you planning on debuting the car?
Posted By: Jared_Jordan
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/18/08 04:45 PM
Hey Bucky,
Good luck with the new ride and if you ever need some Belvedere piloting tips just let me know!
Good luck with the new ride and if you ever need some Belvedere piloting tips just let me know!
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/18/08 05:07 PM
Jared I never drove a taxi cab before may need some input, but I'm sure Travis will show me .Julie I have no date as I do all my racing things after 5 and usually by myself.Travis and I have a scheme designed.He will probably draw it up then we will just wing it.Long way from there as I haven't even seen it.But I'll be at Indy with it if the Lords willing.By the way that gold cuda looks very nice.Wheres the Charlie got you that shook up Jeff?...Bucky
Charlie got you that shook up Jeff?...Bucky
Posted By: warfish
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/18/08 06:49 PM
Quote:
Wheres the
dont pick on the
, you will get deleted like I did. I guess he's coming after us, (across the finish line that is.)If you need any more artwork, let me know. I have more.
cw
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/18/08 07:41 PM
You may want to stick to engine building ,which you are rather good at,but that is kinda 70's sorta animal houseish.Did you pee off that much.I kinda like the ragging on each other. just rag on me and leave chuck alone.......Bucky
off that much.I kinda like the ragging on each other. just rag on me and leave chuck alone.......Bucky
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/18/08 09:26 PM
Hey whats up Bucky last time I saw you at Atco you had said you were getting your self a real A990 car did you get that car? Good luck with your new Cuda.
Rob
Rob
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/18/08 10:40 PM
Yes I got Big Joe Teuton's Southland Flyer .Which was John Livingstons original Tennessee Thunder .I love it .I guess I will be going after some Vettes....Bucky
Posted By: YbNoRmAL
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/18/08 11:13 PM
Bucky, is that the 65 Plymouth you got? I've never saw a 65 Plymouth Tennessee Thunder. Does anyone have any pics of it. I have a pic of a 65 Dodge Tennessee Thunder car. Probably from the early 80s at Indy with Roy Johnson driving it. I love that Flyer car.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/19/08 03:30 AM
Quote:
Yes I got Big Joe Teuton's Southland Flyer .Which was John Livingstons original Tennessee Thunder .I love it .I guess I will be going after some Vettes....Bucky
Bucky I was wondering what is the max tire size that you can run in that class? And do you have to have stock K-frame?
Rob
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/19/08 01:05 PM
Buckey, is that a Plymouth or a Dodge? When are you planning to run it first? Your friends at the WV Hillbily
Posted By: REHBERGERRACING
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/20/08 10:26 PM
Quote:can't find any pictures of his 65, but found this.....from 71???
Bucky, is that the 65 Plymouth you got? I've never saw a 65 Plymouth Tennessee Thunder. Does anyone have any pics of it. I have a pic of a 65 Dodge Tennessee Thunder car. Probably from the early 80s at Indy with Roy Johnson driving it. I love that Flyer car.
Posted By: REHBERGERRACING
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/20/08 10:30 PM
Allen Johnson sent this to me this weekend....
Posted By: YbNoRmAL
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/21/08 01:24 PM
Great picture. I remember watching Roy race alot through the 80s. He ran the Tennessee Thunder car and he also drove a 65 Belvedere that was owned by Mark Klein (great guy).
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/21/08 03:22 PM
ran against that 65 Dodge 'Tennesse Thunder" many times. He ran plenty fast.Never remember a 65 Plymouth? What ever happened to Mark?
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/21/08 04:06 PM
that 65 car was my first race car my dad ray wilkes bought it off of john livington when roy was driving it, that was the first car i ever drove down a race track my first run was a 10.17 back in 1982 the week before indy I made 1-run then took it to indy runner-up for class against richard griffin in steve bagwell car and drove it to the semi,s sold it to somebody in kentucy, joey wilkes
Posted By: REHBERGERRACING
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/21/08 04:26 PM
heres another.........
Posted By: JAKE68
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/21/08 05:50 PM
My brother owns that plymouth in that picture. Jake
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/21/08 05:53 PM
Plymouth I don't know when I'll run it first it depends on how much I redue on it.,Heres a pic I believe John told me he got down to 4 cars at the 68 winter nationals............Cool Bucky
Bucky
Posted By: YbNoRmAL
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/21/08 06:54 PM
WOW! Thanks for sharing that pic of the 65, way cool 
. That's the car that became the Southland Flyer, right? That was maybe a little before my time. Ralph thanks for those pics of Tennessee Thunder and The Mountain Hemi. There was none better looking at that time than the Mountain Hemi cars. Joey, I was going to mention that earlier about you guys buying that car, I remember John sold it to some Yankee and Roy didn't get to drive it at Indy that year. Sal I wonder what happened to Mark also. He teamed up with Jeff Taylor on those SS Camaros for awhile then that was it.
. That's the car that became the Southland Flyer, right? That was maybe a little before my time. Ralph thanks for those pics of Tennessee Thunder and The Mountain Hemi. There was none better looking at that time than the Mountain Hemi cars. Joey, I was going to mention that earlier about you guys buying that car, I remember John sold it to some Yankee and Roy didn't get to drive it at Indy that year. Sal I wonder what happened to Mark also. He teamed up with Jeff Taylor on those SS Camaros for awhile then that was it.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/21/08 10:08 PM
Here is my 65 SS Hemi im hoping to have done for this spring..
NoJoke
NoJoke
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/21/08 10:12 PM
Picture of the Motor
Posted By: crc
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/21/08 11:08 PM
Looking good Robert. Keep the progress photos coming!
Posted By: sshemifan
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/22/08 06:10 PM
Looks like that will be one awesome ride!! I'm a new member, even though I've been reading this board for quite some time now--Been a hemi s/s fan since I saw 3 Steve Bagwell cars @ Rockingham Dragway in the early 80's!!! Does anyone know what Rick Johnson has been up too?(ex-John Hagen car) haven't heard or seen any news about him in a while--Thanks, John
Posted By: crc
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/22/08 06:47 PM
Here is a photo I took at Indy '06. Not sure if he still races or not.
Posted By: JERICOGTX
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/22/08 07:11 PM
Last I heard Rick parked the Cuda, and started racing his 64 Dodge again, as the Cuda was getting too valuable to race. His Cuda is Hagens RED car, that he raced in the early 70's, not his Green Cuda.
Jeff
Jeff
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/22/08 08:49 PM
Don"t know if it is true but someone said Rick Johnson was going to run a/sa with his Dodge.Maybe someone knows if it is true.
Posted By: JERICOGTX
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/23/08 02:28 PM
Quote:
Don"t know if it is true but someone said Rick Johnson was going to run a/sa with his Dodge.Maybe someone knows if it is true.
IIRC the Dodge was backhalfed years ago, to run SS. Unless he redoes the entire rear half of the car, I can't see that car running A/SA.
Jeff
Posted By: MFR440
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/23/08 04:38 PM
Quote:Quote:can't find any pictures of his 65, but found this.....from 71???
Bucky, is that the 65 Plymouth you got? I've never saw a 65 Plymouth Tennessee Thunder. Does anyone have any pics of it. I have a pic of a 65 Dodge Tennessee Thunder car. Probably from the early 80s at Indy with Roy Johnson driving it. I love that Flyer car.
Southland Flyer at the 2004 US Nats:
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/23/08 07:05 PM
That is the car I have formerly John Livingstons.There is a picture of it when John had it on a previous post .Thanks I love it ,Bucky
Posted By: sshemifan
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/23/08 10:20 PM
Here's a nice shot of the Southland Flyer car, I just love these B-body monsters---Bucky, I hope you can mow some vettes down with it!!!John
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/24/08 02:35 PM
Buckey, you will love that 65. It's not the same animal as the 68 but they bare a great ride and lots of fun. I wouldn't trade my 2 for anything.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/25/08 12:42 AM
I cant wait to finish mine and drive mine neither
Rob
Rob
Posted By: B1Frank
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/25/08 01:05 AM
I see the SMITH'S Barracudas are for sale on racingjunk.com. Couldn't happen to nicer people !!to work for.
Posted By: ASA1711
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/25/08 01:32 AM
Frank,
I checked racingjunk and did not see the HEMI cars but saw the Camaro, Neon, Colt and Vette.
Are you free to say what happened to the Smiths?
I checked racingjunk and did not see the HEMI cars but saw the Camaro, Neon, Colt and Vette.
Are you free to say what happened to the Smiths?
Posted By: Mroctober
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/25/08 01:42 AM
It`s in super stock cars!!
Posted By: SSDAcuda
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/25/08 01:50 AM
http://www.racingjunk.com/post/1093823/1968-Super-Stock-Hemi-Cudas-.html
Man those are some BEAUTIFUL cars!
Man those are some BEAUTIFUL cars!
Posted By: ASA1711
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/25/08 01:50 AM
I got it, I must have blown right past it, thanks.
No expense spare with any of those rigs!
No expense spare with any of those rigs!
Posted By: B1Frank
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/25/08 02:20 AM
Sorry look under key word HEMI racingjunk.com
Posted By: cudarex
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/25/08 03:39 PM
Quote:
http://www.racingjunk.com/post/1093823/1968-Super-Stock-Hemi-Cudas-.html
Man those are some BEAUTIFUL cars!
X2
Posted By: B1Frank
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/25/08 09:00 PM
Yes they even look better in person !!
Posted By: cgall
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/25/08 10:09 PM
Looks like 5 entries in SS/AH for Pomona, coming up real soon.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/26/08 12:25 AM
Everthing they have or had looked that way.
Posted By: Stewart
Re: ss/ah hemi pic *DELETED* - 01/28/08 12:55 AM
Post deleted by Stewart
Posted By: SuperStocker
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/28/08 01:09 AM
Will we see the Barnett AH cars at the Cajun Sportsnats? 
Posted By: Stewart
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/28/08 01:21 AM
Tried to post a photo and it didnt take so I deleted the reply but not soon enough. We hope to make it but only if the car is fast. Should dyno again this week and test again soon.
Posted By: mk_
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/28/08 04:56 AM
Speedzone has a cool super stock hemi calender available.......here.
Posted By: liteweight
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 01/28/08 05:37 AM
I agree,I just ordered it
LITEWEIGHT
LITEWEIGHT
Posted By: StewartP
Re: ss/ah hemi pic *DELETED* - 01/30/08 02:19 PM
StewartSway --- why did you delete the photo of StewartPomeroy car and transporter ?
StewartP
StewartP
Posted By: JERICOGTX
Re: ss/ah hemi - 01/31/08 08:19 PM
Did Bucky pick up the new car yet? Is it going to be a stick or Auto? Anyone else building new cars for this class?
I see Joey Wilkes car is for sale on Racingjunk.
I see Joey Wilkes car is for sale on Racingjunk.
Posted By: pfm
Re: ss/ah hemi - 02/01/08 01:40 AM
I would like to see what Charlie is working on.
Posted By: Chris2581
Re: ss/ah hemi - 02/01/08 01:45 AM
Wilkes has had that car for sale almost a year now.I don't know why it hasn't sold,looks like a nice piece.
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: ss/ah hemi - 02/01/08 01:50 PM
I got my new car last thursday , pretty nice piece.It is an auto.I have some speed zone calendars if any one would like one free ,just send an self addressed envelope with postage and I will send it out.Bucky's ltd. 35 Restoration st. Martinsburg .w.v.25404.Can't wait to spit and shine this one.Hey jeff aliasThe how are you coming along?And how is that Gold dust car coming along ? Whose motor?Chucks?,Well more spitting and shining to do thats what pays for these Hemi's.Bucky
how are you coming along?And how is that Gold dust car coming along ? Whose motor?Chucks?,Well more spitting and shining to do thats what pays for these Hemi's.Bucky
Posted By: SSFATim
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 02/01/08 05:27 PM
another oldie...Tim
Posted By: varunner
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 02/02/08 12:09 AM
Quote:
Does any-one know the dates for the 2008 Hemi super-stock challenge, and were will it be at ?? Thanks...B1 Frank
All I've been able to determain is that they're running at the Mopars at the Strip and of course the US Nationals. Not sure of anywhere else...maybe the Sportnationals ?
Posted By: JulieJordan
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 02/02/08 04:09 AM
Quote:Quote:
Does any-one know the dates for the 2008 Hemi super-stock challenge, and were will it be at ?? Thanks...B1 Frank
All I've been able to determain is that they're running at the Mopars at the Strip and of course the US Nationals. Not sure of anywhere else...maybe the Sportnationals ?
Mopars at the Strip
Sportsnats (Belle Rose, Columbus, Fontana)
Indy
Maple Grove Dutch Classic
Posted By: bigdad
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 02/02/08 05:50 AM
Some old school SS/AA stuff real stuff
Posted By: bigdad
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 02/02/08 05:52 AM
More of the bender
Posted By: bigdad
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 02/02/08 05:54 AM
Dick is gone now .. 
Posted By: warfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 02/02/08 04:45 PM
national open in vegas http://dragracecentral.com/DRCStory.asp?ID=151437&Filter=30#indextop
Posted By: warfish
we have a new record! - 02/02/08 10:12 PM
congrats to John Rains on his new National record. That was the motor I had the pics of a couple pages back. 75 pulls later it got him in the record books. WARHEADS ROCK!
cw
cw
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: we have a new record! - 02/02/08 11:48 PM
what did he run charlie?
CONGRATS TO JOHN RAINS AND THE WESCOTTS!!!
casey
CONGRATS TO JOHN RAINS AND THE WESCOTTS!!!
casey
Posted By: Stewart
Re: ss/ah hemi pic *DELETED* - 02/03/08 01:34 AM
Stewart P
I didn't delete the Cuda/Transporter. That is in another thread. What I deleted above was a photo/note on the Barnett SS/AH car. Couldn't get the photo on because it was too large a file so I deleted the note. Will try to post later once I figure out how to sam the photo to a smaller image. Original photo of the Cuda Hauler is in the mail.
Stewart W
I didn't delete the Cuda/Transporter. That is in another thread. What I deleted above was a photo/note on the Barnett SS/AH car. Couldn't get the photo on because it was too large a file so I deleted the note. Will try to post later once I figure out how to sam the photo to a smaller image. Original photo of the Cuda Hauler is in the mail.
Stewart W
Posted By: 11secdart
Re: ss/ah hemi pic *DELETED* - 02/03/08 03:23 AM
Good Job, J.R. and C.W. what were the numbers?
Posted By: warfish
new record - 02/03/08 12:50 PM
he went 8.75 @ 151.7. that corrects to a .54. I really dont care as much about the record as I do his improved performance compared to houser. When we went to vegas last year we didnt have the performance we usually have. I think Houser was .15 faster than john, now with the new changes we made, he was a little faster. Jim Defrank and crew came over and congraulated him, they were impressed also. In the end John was happy with his car, and that makes me happy also.
RIP (this was edited by "big brother" and I had to put it back)
cw
PS if you want to edit my posts, I think you should edit buckys also.
RIP
(this was edited by "big brother" and I had to put it back)cw
PS if you want to edit my posts, I think you should edit buckys also.
Posted By: J_BODY
Re: new record - 02/04/08 03:53 AM
...wow! I think that's the first post I've ever had deleted.....why??? I don't know. I basically stated that the proof was in the puddin that CW's HP was proving itself by being added to others chassis combos and that before the Warfish era a certain other high profile builder from PA had some pretty staunch comments about being the "top dog" and is now somewhat quiet. Even the West Coast Hemi team held that title for some time. Who's next!?!
I know that HP isn't the whole story to leading the SS/AA (AH) class, but can anyone put together a time line as to what builder held the record from year to year???
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: new record - 02/04/08 02:28 PM
Congrats To John Rains And Charlie,Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.Looks like I better get to work.Jeff I'm just kidding,I love that Its cool.Comment please.Bucky,original spit and shine guy P.s. John I bet Chuck hates your shiny car.
Its cool.Comment please.Bucky,original spit and shine guy P.s. John I bet Chuck hates your shiny car.
Posted By: warfish
Re: new record - 02/04/08 02:49 PM
Quote:
Congrats To John Rains And Charlie,Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.
thanks bucky I couldn't agree more, Johns pretty nice too!
when he brought his car here this summer, the first thing he said was that the fender covers were in the front seat, not sure what that was all about, my dog liked laying on them.
So bucky, where you goin first with the new car?
cw
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: new record - 02/04/08 05:27 PM
Charlie thats pretty funny.I don't no yet the car is apart I fitted block and oil pan and headers.Now am fitting front end then can put on rotissery.Long ways from spit and shine.But were going to the dark side on the paint job .Bet your scared. Bucky Wheres Jeff?
NO Dancin bananna
Bucky Wheres Jeff?NO Dancin bananna
Posted By: Jared_Jordan
Pomona - 02/07/08 06:08 PM
First run from Pomona:
1. Jenkins 8.604 152.50 (Holton)
2. Ogburn 8.750 151 (Holton) (spun and shifted into 2nd on the starting line)
3. Raybourn 8.751 150 (Panella or CFO. Not sure)
Rains (Westcott), Houser (Allread), and Faherty (Barton) all spun bad. Don't know what their exact times were.
1. Jenkins 8.604 152.50 (Holton)
2. Ogburn 8.750 151 (Holton) (spun and shifted into 2nd on the starting line)
3. Raybourn 8.751 150 (Panella or CFO. Not sure)
Rains (Westcott), Houser (Allread), and Faherty (Barton) all spun bad. Don't know what their exact times were.
Posted By: 68Fastback
Re: Pomona - 02/07/08 06:19 PM
Hey Jared do you know what the track is like, the weather is pretty good.
Jesse
Jesse
Posted By: Jared_Jordan
Re: Pomona - 02/07/08 06:25 PM
I don't know exactly what the weather is like, but for comparison's sake, I was told Vegas was about 1900' DA last week. Dave Raybourn ran an 8.84 there. He ran a .75 this morning.
The track is pretty slippery. 4 of the 6 AH cars spun the tires bad.
The track is pretty slippery. 4 of the 6 AH cars spun the tires bad.
Posted By: Jared_Jordan
Re: Pomona - 02/07/08 08:29 PM
2nd run from Pomona:
Jenkins 8.609 152.75
Ogburn 8.72 151.50
Raybourn 8.78
Rains, Faherty, and Houser have yet to get down the track.
Jenkins 8.609 152.75
Ogburn 8.72 151.50
Raybourn 8.78
Rains, Faherty, and Houser have yet to get down the track.
Posted By: Jared_Jordan
Re: Pomona - 02/08/08 06:15 PM
3rd and final qualifying shot:
Ogburn: 8.752 150.87
Jenkins: shut off, looks like some sort of electrical problem. better 60' than yesterday's 8.60
Raines: 8.959 152.33 (not a typo. something obviously wrong)
Raybourn: 8.760 149.80
Houser: 8.715 151.20
Faherty: 8.875 151.80
Ogburn: 8.752 150.87
Jenkins: shut off, looks like some sort of electrical problem. better 60' than yesterday's 8.60
Raines: 8.959 152.33 (not a typo. something obviously wrong)
Raybourn: 8.760 149.80
Houser: 8.715 151.20
Faherty: 8.875 151.80
Posted By: JulieJordan
Re: Pomona - 02/08/08 07:53 PM
Round 1 results:
Raybourn (lost) 8.78 150.33
Raines def. Ogburn 8.662 153.50 to 8.774 150.90
Jenkins (won) 8.642 152.33
Houser (won) 8.742 145.39
Faherty was at the back of the lanes and I didn't stick around.
Raybourn (lost) 8.78 150.33
Raines def. Ogburn 8.662 153.50 to 8.774 150.90
Jenkins (won) 8.642 152.33
Houser (won) 8.742 145.39
Faherty was at the back of the lanes and I didn't stick around.
Posted By: 68Fastback
Re: Pomona - 02/09/08 02:05 AM
Hey Julie stopped by a few times but missed you. Jenkin's car is sure running good for the weather and I had to do a double take on Faherty's car just add blue flames.
Jesse
Jesse
Posted By: JulieJordan
Re: Pomona - 02/09/08 03:38 PM
Quote:
Hey Julie stopped by a few times but missed you. Jenkin's car is sure running good for the weather and I had to do a double take on Faherty's car just add blue flames.
Jesse
Hey Jesse I know! When I saw Faherty's car I thought Bob was here racing!! As soon as we're done running today I'm outta here. Gotta get back to tax season.
Posted By: JulieJordan
Re: Pomona - 02/09/08 05:08 PM
Round 2 results:
Jenkins 8.581 153.77 (won)
Raines 8.628 155.01 (won)
Sets up a 3rd round pairing between the two. Ought to be a great race!!
Houser is still in the lanes. I had to come back to trailer and get to work!
Jenkins 8.581 153.77 (won)
Raines 8.628 155.01 (won)
Sets up a 3rd round pairing between the two. Ought to be a great race!!
Houser is still in the lanes. I had to come back to trailer and get to work!
Posted By: JulieJordan
Re: Pomona - 02/09/08 06:13 PM
Round 3 results:
Raines def Jenkins 8.612 154.44 8.618 153.46
Our car wasn't getting oil pressure so Jerry got distracted. Went .208 on the tree. Raines had a nice .012 light.
Congrats to Raines & crew!
Raines def Jenkins 8.612 154.44 8.618 153.46
Our car wasn't getting oil pressure so Jerry got distracted. Went .208 on the tree. Raines had a nice .012 light.
Congrats to Raines & crew!
Posted By: Stewart
Re: Barnett SSAH - 02/12/08 04:17 AM
Hope this photo makes it size wise and doesn't get me fired. Just wanted to let folks know the #1 car is getting close but business comes before pleasure. Should start dynoing again within the week.
Posted By: SealockRacing
Re: Barnett SSAH - 02/12/08 11:05 AM
hey, just curious, will these cars be at the NHRA event in Richmond?
or is it only like a select few tracks that they race at?
is there a schedule for them?
more pictures would also be awesome!
or is it only like a select few tracks that they race at?
is there a schedule for them?
more pictures would also be awesome!
Posted By: Anonymous
SS/AH in scale - 02/12/08 06:29 PM
Kinda off topic, hope it doesn't offend anyone. My current model project, thought I would post it here since this board has been so helpfull in research on it.
Posted By: Troublemaker427
Re: SS/AH in scale - 02/12/08 07:14 PM
I like it!! Very cool!!!
Posted By: JAKE68
Re: SS/AH in scale - 02/12/08 08:02 PM
wHAT DID YOU USE AS A MODEL TO START WITH?
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: SS/AH in scale - 02/12/08 08:26 PM
Quote:
wHAT DID YOU USE AS A MODEL TO START WITH?
Revell Dick Landy 68 dart kit, trying to have it done for Cobo next month.
Posted By: VernMotor
Re: SS/AH in scale - 02/12/08 08:56 PM
Thats real cool I likey !
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Barnett SSAH - 02/12/08 09:32 PM
hey stewart,tell warren to go out back dig up some of that money he got buried and come up to ohio and buy my motor or the whole car see ya joey wilkes 74-819-0291
Posted By: Stewart
Re: Barnett SSAH - 02/13/08 01:11 AM
Joey
Believe me, Frank and I mentioned that as soon as we heard the car was for sale. I think if it had been known how long this would take he might have done something like that. Frank Barnett is no longer working at the shop. He has gone full time at his shop at the house. He will come in as needed if we get in a bind (I hope). Wyman retired but is still doing the machine work as needed. Just Warren and the boys, and me part time. We don't work as long and hard as we used to.
Believe me, Frank and I mentioned that as soon as we heard the car was for sale. I think if it had been known how long this would take he might have done something like that. Frank Barnett is no longer working at the shop. He has gone full time at his shop at the house. He will come in as needed if we get in a bind (I hope). Wyman retired but is still doing the machine work as needed. Just Warren and the boys, and me part time. We don't work as long and hard as we used to.
Posted By: warfish
Re: Barnett SSAH - 02/13/08 12:56 PM
so how quick have you went so far?
Posted By: SealockRacing
Re: Barnett SSAH - 02/13/08 01:04 PM
anything about a schedule of where you guys race?
im amazed by these cars now.
all i had known about was SS/A, and SS/AA
what is the difference between those, and SS/AH?
im amazed by these cars now.
all i had known about was SS/A, and SS/AA
what is the difference between those, and SS/AH?
Posted By: JERICOGTX
Re: Barnett SSAH - 02/13/08 02:27 PM
Quote:
all i had known about was SS/A, and SS/AA
what is the difference between those, and SS/AH?
The Darts, and Barracuda's in SS/A and AA were all put into a seperate class for themselves AH. Some other cars were legal to run AA also like a 64 lightweight Savoy with a HEMI, but they are now limited to just AA, and not AH with the Darts and Cuda's.
Jeff
Posted By: SealockRacing
Re: Barnett SSAH - 02/13/08 03:29 PM
Quote:Quote:
all i had known about was SS/A, and SS/AA
what is the difference between those, and SS/AH?
The Darts, and Barracuda's in SS/A and AA were all put into a seperate class for themselves AH. Some other cars were legal to run AA also like a 64 lightweight Savoy with a HEMI, but they are now limited to just AA, and not AH with the Darts and Cuda's.
Jeff
ohh! alright. so im guessing that the H in AH stands for Hemi?
also, do they run at every NHRA event? or just a select few.
i looked on NHRA's website to find out when they are running, and found that they will at richmond the super stock elim cars have a Y under richmond, but they will not be contested? what does that mean?
im guessing they will run if they make the trip, but it wont be for points? or am i confused here?
Posted By: Stewart
Re: Barnett SSAH - 02/13/08 03:43 PM
Charlie
Not fast enough to put it on a forum or come to a shootout, yet.
Not fast enough to put it on a forum or come to a shootout, yet.
Posted By: willp
Re: Barnett SSAH - 02/14/08 12:27 AM
SealockRacing:
The hemi Darts and Cudas have several special heads up races called 'Hemi Shoot Outs' at selected races that are sponsored by Mopar and others that are run in conjunction with qualifying. The ones I can think of are all the Sportsnationals, Indy, Las Vegas- Mopars at the strip and Mission,B.C. There are more I'm sure.It has to be one of the best shows going.
You can go on the NHRA website and look under the tab for schedules and see what National events will run Super Stock. And if Super Stock Class is contested you will see some heads up racing of any AH cars that are there for that race. Even if class is not contested there may still be an AH Dart or Cuda at the race. But the Hemi Shootouts will attract the largest gathering of the cars to see. And it is well worth the trip to see the show. One of the best times is always at the sportsnationals in Belle Rose coming up in April.
The hemi Darts and Cudas have several special heads up races called 'Hemi Shoot Outs' at selected races that are sponsored by Mopar and others that are run in conjunction with qualifying. The ones I can think of are all the Sportsnationals, Indy, Las Vegas- Mopars at the strip and Mission,B.C. There are more I'm sure.It has to be one of the best shows going.
You can go on the NHRA website and look under the tab for schedules and see what National events will run Super Stock. And if Super Stock Class is contested you will see some heads up racing of any AH cars that are there for that race. Even if class is not contested there may still be an AH Dart or Cuda at the race. But the Hemi Shootouts will attract the largest gathering of the cars to see. And it is well worth the trip to see the show. One of the best times is always at the sportsnationals in Belle Rose coming up in April.
Posted By: SealockRacing
Re: Barnett SSAH - 02/14/08 02:23 AM
thanks for the info.
i just wish the Hemi Shootouts would come to the east coast...
the west coast is quite a trip to make for me...
id make the trip up to maple grove no problem, but a cross country trip just isnt going to happen for me.
maybe someone who helps set these up, would put in a suggestion or something for a east coast show!
so, there may be some if they arent contested? sounds like ill be at richmond for all 3 days no doubt!
can someone post a bunch or pictures of these?
id like to see some under carriage shots to!
just shots of everything you can think of, i would enjoy.
we have a 67 cuda setup for bracket racing, and ours sits just like the AH cars do, and i just love to see the awesome wheelstand pictures of these, and just pictures in general!
thanks guys!
i just wish the Hemi Shootouts would come to the east coast...
the west coast is quite a trip to make for me...
id make the trip up to maple grove no problem, but a cross country trip just isnt going to happen for me.
maybe someone who helps set these up, would put in a suggestion or something for a east coast show!
so, there may be some if they arent contested? sounds like ill be at richmond for all 3 days no doubt!
can someone post a bunch or pictures of these?
id like to see some under carriage shots to!
just shots of everything you can think of, i would enjoy.
we have a 67 cuda setup for bracket racing, and ours sits just like the AH cars do, and i just love to see the awesome wheelstand pictures of these, and just pictures in general!
thanks guys!
Posted By: Hemi_Jack
Re: Barnett SSAH - 02/14/08 02:55 AM
Check out this link in the archives, lots of pics.
https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...e=0#Post2206515
https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...e=0#Post2206515
Posted By: JulieJordan
Re: Barnett SSAH - 02/14/08 03:00 AM
Quote:
thanks for the info.
i just wish the Hemi Shootouts would come to the east coast...
the west coast is quite a trip to make for me...
id make the trip up to maple grove no problem, but a cross country trip just isnt going to happen for me.
maybe someone who helps set these up, would put in a suggestion or something for a east coast show!
so, there may be some if they arent contested? sounds like ill be at richmond for all 3 days no doubt!
can someone post a bunch or pictures of these?
id like to see some under carriage shots to!
just shots of everything you can think of, i would enjoy.
we have a 67 cuda setup for bracket racing, and ours sits just like the AH cars do, and i just love to see the awesome wheelstand pictures of these, and just pictures in general!
thanks guys!
The shootout is run at Maple Grove in October, Indy, the Sportsnationals in Columbus, Belle Rose & Fontana. These are all NHRA events. In addition, there is one in Vegas at the Mopars at the Strip event.
Posted By: SealockRacing
Re: Barnett SSAH - 02/14/08 03:07 AM
so, its in maple grove every year?
it would take me and my dad and a few buddies a couple hours to get down there, and if thats the case, well be taking work off for the weekend no doubt.
thanks for all of this information!
btw, i forgot to post a picture of our bracket car in my last post... here it is!
still ALOT of work to go, it aint perfect like the AH cars, but its perfect to me, just needs some TLC...aint bad for sitting in a metal garage for 20 years...
it would take me and my dad and a few buddies a couple hours to get down there, and if thats the case, well be taking work off for the weekend no doubt.
thanks for all of this information!
btw, i forgot to post a picture of our bracket car in my last post... here it is!
still ALOT of work to go, it aint perfect like the AH cars, but its perfect to me, just needs some TLC...aint bad for sitting in a metal garage for 20 years...
Posted By: wildcargo
Re: Barnett SSAH - 02/14/08 12:08 PM
The Dutch classic at Maple Grove for the SS/AH shoot out. 
Posted By: lowbudget
Re: Barnett SSAH - 02/14/08 02:44 PM
Sealock, I wouldnt change a thing about that car...maybe polish the slots a little. Its got a cool nostalgic vibe about it.
Posted By: SealockRacing
Re: Barnett SSAH - 02/14/08 02:51 PM
Quote:
Sealock, I wouldnt change a thing about that car...maybe polish the slots a little. Its got a cool nostalgic vibe about it.
oh, im not changing much if anything really...
right now, im working on polishing the wheels, and just cleaning everything on the car. just freshening everything up basically.
so far i have rounded up the old wilwood brake calipers that need alot of rebuilding and work to get them working again.
polished the front wheels, along with the centercaps.
drained, cleaned, and refilled the 60 out back
and im ordering all new lug nuts which it really needs, ill be making the order today or tommorow for sure.
then, when it warms up, im borrowing the powerwasher from work, and completely detailing the car. powerwashing the engine bay to get it ready for the new powerplant. and going nuts on the under carriage to make it nice and degreased. also washing and waxing the entire car.
motor will be a 440 with a set of headers made specially for 440 barracudas.
i love this car. my grandfather owned it, and raced it a few times. then sold it. my dad was in love with it when he was my age, so he bought it from my grandpas friend. and hes owned it ever since. so now im a 3rd gen owner/ driver of this car!
you could say its a John Sealock family car i guess!
ill make a thread with more pictures and updates as i finish stuff on it!
Posted By: jake4cars
Re: Barnett SSAH - 02/14/08 04:05 PM
WOW!!!!!, A third generation race car, how cool is that, I would never let the car be sold again. Good Luck with it!!
Joey
Joey
Posted By: moderncylinder
john rains - 02/14/08 10:47 PM
congrats to john rains,,, drag race central article...
http://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCStory.asp?ID=152081
http://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCStory.asp?ID=152081
Posted By: SealockRacing
Re: Barnett SSAH - 02/15/08 12:57 AM
Quote:
WOW!!!!!, A third generation race car, how cool is that, I would never let the car be sold again. Good Luck with it!!
Joey
thanks man!
i could go on for hours and probably days with what i want to do to it in the future. i dont mean like restore it back to factory, but restore it to the quality of these SS/AH cars. everything just seems so perfect on them.
i have not one intention of selling...this car will be owned by me, and my son, and hopefully my sons son, and so on...
Posted By: Joe Grippo
Re: Barnett SSAH - 02/15/08 01:11 PM
Quote:
so, its in maple grove every year?
One of the BEST races of the year!!!
Here is a shot of last years Hemi Shootout line-up...
Posted By: SealockRacing
Re: Barnett SSAH - 02/15/08 07:43 PM
ill be there more than likely all 3 days
if not, than friday and saturday for sure!
hopefully i can get to check out some of these cars!
thanks guys!
if not, than friday and saturday for sure!
hopefully i can get to check out some of these cars!
thanks guys!
Posted By: warfish
race results - 02/16/08 01:04 AM
I kinda forgot, but there is a race going on in fla now. couple hemis turnin it loose.
http://dragracecentral.com/DRCStory.asp?ID=152100#indextop
http://dragracecentral.com/DRCStory.asp?ID=152100#indextop
Posted By: StewartP
Re: race results - 02/16/08 01:40 AM
Charlie, this old fart can't find which 2 Hemi cars you are talking about at Bradenton -- Help, I am going down there tomorrow and would like to see some Hemi cars.
StewartP
StewartP
Posted By: sixpakdodge
Re: race results - 02/16/08 01:42 AM
16 2354 SS/AH Bill Brooks, Kissimmee FL, '68 Barracuda 8.846 9.80 -0.954
29 350 SS/AH Jim Pancake, Delaware OH, '68 Dart 9.233 9.80 -0.567
37 2450 SS/AH Bob Reed, Salisbury NC, '68 Barracuda 9.681 9.80 -0.119
29 350 SS/AH Jim Pancake, Delaware OH, '68 Dart 9.233 9.80 -0.567
37 2450 SS/AH Bob Reed, Salisbury NC, '68 Barracuda 9.681 9.80 -0.119
Posted By: StewartP
Re: race results - 02/16/08 01:47 AM
This old piece would not be competitive
Posted By: Chris2581
Re: race results - 02/16/08 02:08 AM
Quote:
This old piece would not be competitive
Is that the same "old piece" that ended up getting a wild purple paint job??
Posted By: BryanRad
Re: race results - 02/16/08 02:12 AM
Throw this one in too:
23 205 SS/AH John Gifford, Naples FL, '68 Barracuda 9.138 9.80 -0.662
23 205 SS/AH John Gifford, Naples FL, '68 Barracuda 9.138 9.80 -0.662
Posted By: crc
Re: race results - 02/16/08 02:20 AM
Quote:
This old piece would not be competitive
Stewart,
We need more photos...please.
Posted By: Ben Holt
Re: race results - 02/16/08 02:31 AM
Quote:
I kinda forgot, but there is a race going on in fla now. couple hemis turnin it loose.
http://dragracecentral.com/DRCStory.asp?ID=152100#indextop
29 350 SS/AH Jim Pancake, Delaware OH, '68 Dart 9.233 9.80 -0.567
Have to love an old set of tires.....Pretty sure dad and Jim will have their act togther a little better tomorrow.
Posted By: warfish
Re: race results - 02/16/08 02:34 AM
pancake, brooks, gifford.
Posted By: StewartP
Re: race results - 02/16/08 11:28 AM
Yep, that is the purple car
Posted By: StewartP
Re: race results - 02/16/08 11:28 AM
First Gatornationals
Posted By: SSDAcuda
Re: race results - 02/16/08 11:46 AM
Looks Good.Keep them coming Stewart!
Posted By: StewartP
Re: race results - 02/17/08 01:02 AM
Seemed like a lot of problems for the SS/AH cars, this weekend --- clutch -- hood leaving - broken trans and pushrods -- and the ever smiling Mr. Pancake
Posted By: StewartP
Re: race results - 02/17/08 01:05 AM
Mr. Brooks
Posted By: liteweight
Re: race results - 02/17/08 05:22 PM
The hemi Darts and Cudas have several special heads up races called 'Hemi Shoot Outs' at selected races that are sponsored by Mopar and others that are run in conjunction with qualifying. The ones I can think of are all the Sportsnationals, Indy, Las Vegas- Mopars at the strip and Mission,B.C. There are more I'm sure.It has to be one of the best shows going.
Does anyone know if & when there will be a Hemi Shootout this year at Mission,B.C.,Canada??
LITEWEIGHT
Does anyone know if & when there will be a Hemi Shootout this year at Mission,B.C.,Canada??
LITEWEIGHT
Posted By: JulieJordan
Re: race results - 02/17/08 06:02 PM
Quote:
The hemi Darts and Cudas have several special heads up races called 'Hemi Shoot Outs' at selected races that are sponsored by Mopar and others that are run in conjunction with qualifying. The ones I can think of are all the Sportsnationals, Indy, Las Vegas- Mopars at the strip and Mission,B.C. There are more I'm sure.It has to be one of the best shows going.
Does anyone know if & when there will be a Hemi Shootout this year at Mission,B.C.,Canada??
LITEWEIGHT
The shootouts held at Mission ,in the past, were not Mopar sponsored. At the current time, our team is planning on attending this event. The number of other hemi cars attending will determine whether the Division 6 NHRA staff conducts a shootout or not. The winner of that will not earn points towards the Mopar series.
Posted By: liteweight
Re: race results - 02/17/08 09:53 PM
Glad to hear you guys are coming back up again.Is there anyone else on this forum willing to come up to the clean,cool,SEALEVEL air that Mission has to offer???
LIGHTWEIGHT
Daryl
LIGHTWEIGHT
Daryl
Posted By: dragonfish
Re: race results - 02/18/08 01:20 AM
HOLTON vs WARFORD at Wheatfield Raceway in Duncannon, Pa.
Posted By: JulieJordan
Re: race results - 02/18/08 04:01 AM
Quote:
HOLTON vs WARFORD at Wheatfield Raceway in Duncannon, Pa.
That is too cool! Is it a slot car track or just a set up?
Posted By: dragonfish
Re: race results - 02/18/08 11:57 AM
It's a slot car track,We race every sat. nite w/ brackets and index classes. The most popular heads-up class is SS/AH - 67-69 cuda and dart model bodies 125gram min.weight. They run .520-.540 in the 1/8th mile @ 50-52 mph !!
Posted By: YbNoRmAL
Re: race results - 02/18/08 01:13 PM
Quote:Too cool Dragonfish, I play with the H.O.s and have some pretty cool E and B bodies setup as Superstock drag cars, but nothing like what you guys have done. I give you major props, Good Job !!
HOLTON vs WARFORD at Wheatfield Raceway in Duncannon, Pa.
Posted By: dragonfish
Re: race results - 02/18/08 03:52 PM
Thanks, I build the chassis' and the motors and a fellow racer paints the bodies, he uses automotive paint and can print whatever decals u want. Right now he's doing a JIMMY DEFRANK cuda and a JIM PANCAKE dart. I'll post pics when they're done
Posted By: Dave Watt
Re: race results - 02/18/08 04:39 PM
Quote:That is SWEET! You guys have a nice setup there.
HOLTON vs WARFORD at Wheatfield Raceway in Duncannon, Pa.
Posted By: dragonfish
Re: race results - 02/18/08 10:26 PM
Here is a pic of my wifes cuda the HEMI HURRICAINE. Her 2nd car will be a DRAGON LADY dart.
Posted By: dragonfish
Re: race results - 02/18/08 10:49 PM
Here is another pic of SS/AH slotcars
Posted By: LO23
Re: race results - 02/19/08 12:35 AM
Posted By: 3ddart
Re: race results - 02/19/08 02:27 AM
dragon: do the dart for yourself and call it dagon-laddy, after your friend has painted it like shirley sahan's car. that thought crossed my mind for my dart clone but at the rate i'm going i'll never get it done!
Posted By: dragonfish
Re: race results - 02/19/08 12:28 PM
Good idea !!
Posted By: 3ddart
Re: race results - 02/20/08 01:04 AM
hey dragon: my pea brain thought of another 1 also. after you paint it and letter it dragon laddy you can use leslie nealson's line from the police comedys he was in, "and don't call me shirly"!!! 3ddart
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: race results - 02/22/08 03:49 PM
Hey Jeff (aka for charlie)hows the new project coming along ?Are you all going to Belle rose?Bucky
for charlie)hows the new project coming along ?Are you all going to Belle rose?Bucky
Posted By: warfish
Re: race results - 02/22/08 06:13 PM
its easier to talk about it than do it.
1 600 SS/BS Jeff Lane, North Bend WA, '08 Cobalt 8.891 10.05 -1.159
2 9 SS/BM Ryan McClannahan, Alta Loma CA, '08 Cobalt 8.532 9.65 -1.118
3 799J SS/AH John Rains, Santa Paula CA, '68 Dart 8.695 9.80 -1.105
rains is doin it.
1 600 SS/BS Jeff Lane, North Bend WA, '08 Cobalt 8.891 10.05 -1.159
2 9 SS/BM Ryan McClannahan, Alta Loma CA, '08 Cobalt 8.532 9.65 -1.118
3 799J SS/AH John Rains, Santa Paula CA, '68 Dart 8.695 9.80 -1.105
rains is doin it.
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: race results - 02/22/08 08:53 PM
Charlie when are you doin it?Bucky Wheres the
Wheres the
Posted By: warfish
Re: race results - 02/22/08 09:43 PM
the plan is to go to vegas and belle rose. I have 2 of our 3 motors done, I am working on mine now. also want to get hensons done so he can run it out there. I have a new one done for a new MPR guy named larry nash, should dyno all 4 of them shortly. plus I have rains other motor, and warfords back to get updated.
I hear the has been on the dyno, that would be fun to watch.
later
cw
I hear the
has been on the dyno, that would be fun to watch.later
cw
Posted By: SSDAcuda
Re: race results - 02/22/08 11:12 PM
Hey Bucky, how about some pics of the new ride? 
Posted By: sshemifan
Re: race results - 02/23/08 12:34 AM
Yes, some pics of the new car would be great!!! Also, Bucky, are you planning on running the 65 as a SS/BA, or will you move up or down a class?
Thanks, John
Thanks, John
Posted By: sshemifan
Re: race results - 02/23/08 03:01 AM
Does anyone know what became of all the Hemi super stock cars that Steve Bagwell had in his stable??? 
Thanks, John
Thanks, John
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: race results - 02/23/08 04:18 AM
Charlie thats cool you can go back to vegas,I may come to belle rose to watch. This is what I am doing now.The car isn't much to look at right now.I would put a few pictures on but they may scare Charlie and the I am going to run the 65 as a B car will probably enter it in A and run at B weight so I don't put h/p on the motor.Goin after the vettes.They are probably as scared as Charlie Bucky
This is what I am doing now.The car isn't much to look at right now.I would put a few pictures on but they may scare Charlie and the I am going to run the 65 as a B car will probably enter it in A and run at B weight so I don't put h/p on the motor.Goin after the vettes.They are probably as scared as Charlie Bucky
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: race results - 02/23/08 07:05 PM
The 64 of bagwell's is now owned by 555 Ken Montgomery.
Posted By: StewartP
Bill Brooks - 02/23/08 10:01 PM
Two very nice people -Bill Brooks-and crew chief.
StewartP
StewartP
Posted By: sshemifan
Re: race results - 02/23/08 11:24 PM
Hey Charlie, looks like Rains did even better
6 799J SS/AH John Rains, Santa Paula CA, '68 Dart 8.673 9.80 -1.127
looks like you built him an awesome motor!!!
John
6 799J SS/AH John Rains, Santa Paula CA, '68 Dart 8.673 9.80 -1.127
looks like you built him an awesome motor!!!
John
Posted By: crc
Re: race results - 02/24/08 09:26 PM
I see Joe Faherty had the best engineered car at Phoenix...who built it?
http://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCPhoto.asp?ID=152557&Filter=30#indextop
http://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCPhoto.asp?ID=152557&Filter=30#indextop
Posted By: 68Fastback
Re: race results - 02/24/08 10:52 PM
Gary Hansen did the chassis.
Jesse
Jesse
Quote:
I see Joe Faherty had the best engineered car at Phoenix...who built it?
http://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCPhoto.asp?ID=152557&Filter=30#indextop
Posted By: Gumbydammit
Re: race results - 02/25/08 01:08 AM
Just a question, and forgive me if it's been asked before, but what mods are allowed to the front suspension? It seems the modern day SS/AH cars are mighty low. Also, do most of you run 16V batteries, and if so which ones? Thanks!
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: race results - 02/25/08 03:40 AM
Stock front suspension, shorter oil pans, higher headers,now no mods to inner fenders.yes I run 16 volt.hope this helps.Bucky
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: race results - 02/25/08 03:46 AM
I still have a couple super stock calendars if anyone wants one FREE send s.a.e.Buckys ltd 35 restoration st.martinsburg wv25404.304-263-6903Bucky
Posted By: SealockRacing
Re: race results - 02/25/08 10:59 AM
Quote:
I still have a couple super stock calendars if anyone wants one FREE send s.a.e.Buckys ltd 35 restoration st.martinsburg wv25404.304-263-6903Bucky
id like one, but not sure what all those numbers are.
im guessing
west virginia, 25404 and then the rest is a phone number?
whats s.a.e.?
Posted By: HemiDart68
Re: race results - 02/25/08 11:44 AM
S.A.E = Stamped self addressed envelope
Posted By: pfm
Re: race results - 02/25/08 12:58 PM
Quote:
I still have a couple super stock calendars if anyone wants one FREE send s.a.e.Buckys ltd 35 restoration st.martinsburg wv25404.304-263-6903Bucky
Got mine last week (thanks Bucky), Now lets see some pics of the new car.
Posted By: SealockRacing
Re: race results - 02/25/08 02:23 PM
so get a im guessing one of those padded brown envelopes big enough for a calendar, and put your address on it, and mine on it, and mail it out to you?
if so, ill try and get it out this week!
if so, ill try and get it out this week!
Posted By: warfish
Re: race results - 02/25/08 03:19 PM
Quote:
Hey Charlie, looks like Rains did even better
6 799J SS/AH John Rains, Santa Paula CA, '68 Dart 8.673 9.80 -1.127
looks like you built him an awesome motor!!!
John
he went a .60 flat in the 3rd rd on sunday. 153 something.
Posted By: JulieJordan
Re: race results - 02/25/08 03:28 PM
For those of you going to Belle Rose, we'll have calendars to give away there, too. Just come by our pit.
Posted By: caper
Re: race results - 02/26/08 01:07 AM
Any of you racers want to come to New Brunswick , Canada on Aug 1 , 2008
Extreme Drag Race Adds Stock/Super Stock
Maritime Stock/SuperStock Championship Series set to join forces with Extreme Drag Race Shootout Festivities
It is with great pleasure that the Maritime Stock/SuperStock Championship Series announces they will be joining forces with the Extreme Drag Race Shootout to add a Stock/SuperStock event as part of the festivities August 1 – 3, 2008 at Miramichi Dragway Park.
This unique event will consist of two classes (Stock & Super Stock) whose winners will meet in the final to crown a 2008 EDRS Stock/Super Stock champion. While details of the purse are still being ironed out it appears this will be the highest paying Stock/Super Stock race in Maritime drag racing history.
“I must say we are very excited about the addition of the Maritime Stock/Super Stock program to the Extreme Drag Race line-up.” Explained EDRS Director Chris Biro. “We had the opportunity to meet a few of the class racers in our visits during 2007 and have seen the quality of their machines first hand. What a perfect fit, and rumor has it that some of the Hemi cars and others that are rarely raced in the Maritime area will be making an appearance to help us celebrate this sport as only the EDRS can. What can I say other than I can’t wait till August!”
Once word of this class joining the EDRS started making the rounds the first cars to sign up were the trio of Hemis from Rothesay, New Brunswick owned by the Howes Family. With a SS/AH Hemi Barracuda & SS/AH Hemi Dart to go along with their A/SA Hemi Challenger the Howes’ are excited about the opportunity to race at Miramichi this August. “With the staff at EDRS and RPM Magazine pulling out all the stops to make this the premier drag racing event on the East Coast we would be foolish to miss it.” Said Mark Howes. “The opportunity to race on home soil against some of the fastest and coolest class cars in the area is pretty hard to pass up.”
Pre registration is recommended for this event, as space will fill up quickly. Please follow the link below to register for this event. http://maritimeracers.proboards33.com/in...read=1203970826
The 2008 Maritime Stock/SuperStock Championship will be open to all NHRA and IHRA Stock/ SuperStock class cars
Extreme Drag Race Adds Stock/Super Stock
Maritime Stock/SuperStock Championship Series set to join forces with Extreme Drag Race Shootout Festivities
It is with great pleasure that the Maritime Stock/SuperStock Championship Series announces they will be joining forces with the Extreme Drag Race Shootout to add a Stock/SuperStock event as part of the festivities August 1 – 3, 2008 at Miramichi Dragway Park.
This unique event will consist of two classes (Stock & Super Stock) whose winners will meet in the final to crown a 2008 EDRS Stock/Super Stock champion. While details of the purse are still being ironed out it appears this will be the highest paying Stock/Super Stock race in Maritime drag racing history.
“I must say we are very excited about the addition of the Maritime Stock/Super Stock program to the Extreme Drag Race line-up.” Explained EDRS Director Chris Biro. “We had the opportunity to meet a few of the class racers in our visits during 2007 and have seen the quality of their machines first hand. What a perfect fit, and rumor has it that some of the Hemi cars and others that are rarely raced in the Maritime area will be making an appearance to help us celebrate this sport as only the EDRS can. What can I say other than I can’t wait till August!”
Once word of this class joining the EDRS started making the rounds the first cars to sign up were the trio of Hemis from Rothesay, New Brunswick owned by the Howes Family. With a SS/AH Hemi Barracuda & SS/AH Hemi Dart to go along with their A/SA Hemi Challenger the Howes’ are excited about the opportunity to race at Miramichi this August. “With the staff at EDRS and RPM Magazine pulling out all the stops to make this the premier drag racing event on the East Coast we would be foolish to miss it.” Said Mark Howes. “The opportunity to race on home soil against some of the fastest and coolest class cars in the area is pretty hard to pass up.”
Pre registration is recommended for this event, as space will fill up quickly. Please follow the link below to register for this event. http://maritimeracers.proboards33.com/in...read=1203970826
The 2008 Maritime Stock/SuperStock Championship will be open to all NHRA and IHRA Stock/ SuperStock class cars
Posted By: ASA1711
Re: race results - 02/26/08 01:08 AM
Happy Birthday Julie!
And many, many more!
Frank
And many, many more!
Frank
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: race results - 02/26/08 02:31 AM
Quote:
Any of you racers want to come to New Brunswick , Canada on Aug 1 , 2008
Extreme Drag Race Adds Stock/Super Stock
Maritime Stock/SuperStock Championship Series set to join forces with Extreme Drag Race Shootout Festivities
It is with great pleasure that the Maritime Stock/SuperStock Championship Series announces they will be joining forces with the Extreme Drag Race Shootout to add a Stock/SuperStock event as part of the festivities August 1 – 3, 2008 at Miramichi Dragway Park.
This unique event will consist of two classes (Stock & Super Stock) whose winners will meet in the final to crown a 2008 EDRS Stock/Super Stock champion. While details of the purse are still being ironed out it appears this will be the highest paying Stock/Super Stock race in Maritime drag racing history.
“I must say we are very excited about the addition of the Maritime Stock/Super Stock program to the Extreme Drag Race line-up.” Explained EDRS Director Chris Biro. “We had the opportunity to meet a few of the class racers in our visits during 2007 and have seen the quality of their machines first hand. What a perfect fit, and rumor has it that some of the Hemi cars and others that are rarely raced in the Maritime area will be making an appearance to help us celebrate this sport as only the EDRS can. What can I say other than I can’t wait till August!”
Once word of this class joining the EDRS started making the rounds the first cars to sign up were the trio of Hemis from Rothesay, New Brunswick owned by the Howes Family. With a SS/AH Hemi Barracuda & SS/AH Hemi Dart to go along with their A/SA Hemi Challenger the Howes’ are excited about the opportunity to race at Miramichi this August. “With the staff at EDRS and RPM Magazine pulling out all the stops to make this the premier drag racing event on the East Coast we would be foolish to miss it.” Said Mark Howes. “The opportunity to race on home soil against some of the fastest and coolest class cars in the area is pretty hard to pass up.”
Pre registration is recommended for this event, as space will fill up quickly. Please follow the link below to register for this event. http://maritimeracers.proboards33.com/in...read=1203970826
The 2008 Maritime Stock/SuperStock Championship will be open to all NHRA and IHRA Stock/ SuperStock class cars
Thanks for posting this, if any one has any questions my email is razor1966@rogers.com , I will get answers for you ASAP.
Also we will have race packages ready for download shortly. They will explain crossing the border so it is 99% hassle free. As long as you dont have a criminal record (or are JAMA Racing Ministries) you should have no problems coming up here.
I dont know this Class really well, so I am definitely looking forward to seeing up close and personal. Anytime a Hemi is involved, it has to be good. I know Chris was right pumped when he told me about it.
Posted By: 354valiant
Re: race results - 02/26/08 10:33 AM
Bucky, I would really like a calender so... What size envelope is needed and How much postage is needed on the self addressed stamped envelope? And best of luck to you Bucky with new 'Cuda and the '65 hope to see some pics soon.
Thanks Brian '65 HEMI Valiant
Thanks Brian '65 HEMI Valiant
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: race results - 02/26/08 01:52 PM
its 11"x9" i think about $2 thanks Bucky Come on Jeff aka Give us some input.your not that scared of charlie are you? He give you the why dont you pick out an icon for him?
Come on Jeff aka Give us some input.your not that scared of charlie are you? He give you the why dont you pick out an icon for him?
Posted By: SealockRacing
Re: race results - 02/26/08 02:41 PM
Quote:
its 11"x9" i think about $2 thanks Bucky
ill try and go to the P.O. and pick one up today and mail it out, can you PM the address by chance?
thanks again
John Sealock
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: race results - 02/26/08 03:52 PM
BUCKY'S LTD. 35 RESTORATION ST. MARTINSBURG W.V. 25401
Posted By: SealockRacing
Re: race results - 02/26/08 07:36 PM
thanks Bucky.
John
John
Posted By: LO23
Re: race results - 02/26/08 08:41 PM
john friel still in it?
haven't herd anything on him in awhile.
haven't herd anything on him in awhile.
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: race results - 02/27/08 06:44 PM
From what i just heard the is heading south.P.s.Goodluck
is heading south.P.s.Goodluck
Posted By: StewartP
Re: race results - 02/27/08 08:30 PM
Quote:
From what i just heard the
Bucky, what does that mean ??
Posted By: JAKE68
Re: race results - 02/27/08 09:18 PM
Quote:He is going to get some grade points and test new car!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
From what i just heard the
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: SS/AH in scale - 02/28/08 10:39 AM
Some update photos. Does anyone have a scan of the Jackson Engine sticker ? If Charlie doesn't mind I'd like to scale it down for my build.
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: race results - 02/28/08 01:20 PM
Jakes right.He's heading for Belle Rose.I believe him and Jerry Caro are partners.Lil Joe said it should be fast today.Good Luck Jeff aka What do you think Chuck?
What do you think Chuck?
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: race results - 02/28/08 09:45 PM
Lil Joe in the King Cuda 8.59 @ 153 J allen in theflamed car 8.63 @ 152.90 Jeff shut off Pancake shut off Way to go Lil Joe Bucky
Bucky
Posted By: Jared_Jordan
Re: race results - 02/28/08 10:31 PM
That's not your motor is it Bucky? I'm assuming it's CW's stuff.
Posted By: liteweight
Re: SS/AH in scale - 02/29/08 12:41 AM
Quote:
Some update photos. Does anyone have a scan of the Jackson Engine sticker ? If Charlie doesn't mind I'd like to scale it down for my build.
That is absolutely astounding
Liteweight
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: race results - 02/29/08 02:47 AM
No Jared,I think they are a combination of charlies head and intake and lil joe's engine program.I think they are doin great. no 1 for the day.Pankake went a 8.600. lil joe said he was real soft.said he'll go after it tommorrow.jeff broke a trans.What do you think charlie?
Posted By: warfish
Re: SS/AH in scale - 02/29/08 02:47 AM
Quote:
Some update photos. Does anyone have a scan of the Jackson Engine sticker ? If Charlie doesn't mind I'd like to scale it down for my build.
this is all I have, I hope it helps. That is a pretty cool model.
I hear the cake went .60 at belle rose today, sherman went a 63, lil joe went 60 and the fruit has problems, with the car that is.
cw
Posted By: racerhog
Re: SS/AH in scale - 02/29/08 04:16 AM
Good Deal
Posted By: moprod
Re: SS/AH in scale - 02/29/08 04:51 PM
here's a oldie
Posted By: StewartP
Re: SS/AH in scale - 02/29/08 05:45 PM
1
Posted By: Jared_Jordan
Re: SS/AH in scale - 02/29/08 06:39 PM
Sherman, Pancake, and Teuton all within .01 of one another in Belle Rose. Good runs by all.
Where's Jeff? Not trying to invite criticism, just curious.
Where's Jeff? Not trying to invite criticism, just curious.
Posted By: JulieJordan
Re: SS/AH in scale - 02/29/08 06:42 PM
Which car is Hebert driving? L'il Joe's old car?
Posted By: warfish
Re: SS/AH in scale - 02/29/08 08:14 PM
rains went a 63 at phoenix today also, only hemi car there though. I guess jeff is trying to get his trans fixed, I guess they dont make a trans strong enough yet to withstand the power he's packin'.
cw
cw
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: SS/AH in scale - 02/29/08 10:00 PM
Good job to everybody at Belle Rose and Chandler.
To the 2 people sitting at home in michigan that sit around figuring out who to hate next, shut up if you have nothing nice to say.
Your both are total losers.
I'm a real hemi lover but it seems everything you to ever got into you have worked on hurting it totally with your actions off of the track.
I'd rather be a banana then a _____hole!
To the 2 people sitting at home in michigan that sit around figuring out who to hate next, shut up if you have nothing nice to say.
Your both are total losers.
I'm a real hemi lover but it seems everything you to ever got into you have worked on hurting it totally with your actions off of the track.
I'd rather be a banana then a _____hole!
Posted By: 68Fastback
Re: SS/AH Belle Rose - 02/29/08 10:13 PM
Does anyone know what the track conditions are like, how is the air.
Jesse
Jesse
Posted By: moderncylinder
Re: SS/AH Belle Rose - 02/29/08 10:29 PM
For anyone thats interested
I just got off the phone with Jerry Caro.
Jeff had broke the pump in the trans yesterday.
They replaced the pump and clutches today.
He didnt make it in time for 1st or 2nd round.
They were given a 3rd round today.
This being the very first pass in this car he left on foot brake just above idle i was told and it shook the tires and ran 9.07 with 1.3ish 60foot. He'll get 2 more rounds tomorrow from what i heard so iam glad it took it easy on his first run in this car.
Bob
I just got off the phone with Jerry Caro.
Jeff had broke the pump in the trans yesterday.
They replaced the pump and clutches today.
He didnt make it in time for 1st or 2nd round.
They were given a 3rd round today.
This being the very first pass in this car he left on foot brake just above idle i was told and it shook the tires and ran 9.07 with 1.3ish 60foot. He'll get 2 more rounds tomorrow from what i heard so iam glad it took it easy on his first run in this car.
Bob
Posted By: warfish
Re: SS/AH in scale - 02/29/08 11:21 PM
Quote:
Good job to everybody at Belle Rose and Chandler.
To the 2 people sitting at home in michigan that sit around figuring out who to hate next, shut up if you have nothing nice to say.
Your both are total losers.
I'm a real hemi lover but it seems everything you to ever got into you have worked on hurting it totally with your actions off of the track.
I'd rather be a banana then a _____hole!
I am actually trying to supply my customers with the power they need to win right now, what are you doing? I have 4 motors to dyno starting tomorrow, plus I need to get hensons done next week. I am hardly sitting here looking for someone to hate. I think it is all humorous, and I think bucky does also, I guess he is a hater also for asking what the fruit is up to.
I guess he turned it loose while I went to eat, 335 SS/AH Jeffrey Kobylok, Macomb Twshp MI, '68 Dart 9.077 9.80 -0.723
I take back everything I ever said,
cw
Posted By: Chris2581
Re: SS/AH in scale - 03/01/08 12:16 AM
Charlie,
What's the (appears to be threaded) rod at the shock tower for??
What's the (appears to be threaded) rod at the shock tower for??
Posted By: SuperStocker
Re: SS/AH in scale - 03/01/08 12:32 AM
Quote:
Which car is Hebert driving? L'il Joe's old car?
Yes, it is.
Posted By: warfish
Re: SS/AH in scale - 03/01/08 12:46 AM
Quote:
Charlie,
What's the (appears to be threaded) rod at the shock tower for??
its a front end travel adjustment. not as pretty as some, but more funtional.
cw
Posted By: Chris2581
Re: SS/AH in scale - 03/01/08 01:11 AM
Doesn't matter if it's pretty,as long as it works.
Thanks for the info!!
Thanks for the info!!
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: SS/AH Belle Rose - 03/01/08 01:26 AM
Quote:
For anyone thats interested
I just got off the phone with Jerry Caro.
Jeff had broke the pump in the trans yesterday.
They replaced the pump and clutches today.
He didnt make it in time for 1st or 2nd round.
They were given a 3rd round today.
This being the very first pass in this car he left on foot brake just above idle i was told and it shook the tires and ran 9.07 with 1.3ish 60foot. He'll get 2 more rounds tomorrow from what i heard so iam glad it took it easy on his first run in this car.
Bob
did the trans break in the trailer? I thought he made some runs yesterday. sounds like he was trying to save gas by leaving at an idle, at 17.00 a gallon I cant blame him
Posted By: ASA1711
Re: SS/AH in scale - 03/01/08 12:39 PM
Charlie,
Looks like your program is already in high gear for 2008. Hard work pays off.
Have you built a HEMI for anything other than a SS/AH and if so, how is the intake runner length effected by the more limited hood scoop height, ie; E-body or A990? Would a shorter intake hurt your flow formula?
Thanks in advance for your consideration and reply.
Frank
Looks like your program is already in high gear for 2008. Hard work pays off.
Have you built a HEMI for anything other than a SS/AH and if so, how is the intake runner length effected by the more limited hood scoop height, ie; E-body or A990? Would a shorter intake hurt your flow formula?
Thanks in advance for your consideration and reply.
Frank
Posted By: warfish
Re: SS/AH in scale - 03/01/08 01:29 PM
Quote:
Charlie,
Looks like your program is already in high gear for 2008. Hard work pays off.
Have you built a HEMI for anything other than a SS/AH and if so, how is the intake runner length effected by the more limited hood scoop height, ie; E-body or A990? Would a shorter intake hurt your flow formula?
Thanks in advance for your consideration and reply.
Frank
I've only built AA motors, I did just do a set of heads for a guy building a 65 car, and I did him the same intake that I use. I know the combination that works, its up to the customer to fit it under the hood.
Posted By: ASA1711
Re: SS/AH in scale - 03/01/08 02:02 PM
Thanks Charlie and good luck.
Posted By: BADDART
Re: SS/AH in scale - 03/01/08 09:32 PM
Your demeanor is the problem,not your racing abilities.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: SS/AH in scale - 03/02/08 11:06 AM
Quote:Quote:
Charlie,
Looks like your program is already in high gear for 2008. Hard work pays off.
Have you built a HEMI for anything other than a SS/AH and if so, how is the intake runner length effected by the more limited hood scoop height, ie; E-body or A990? Would a shorter intake hurt your flow formula?
Thanks in advance for your consideration and reply.
Frank
I've only built AA motors, I did just do a set of heads for a guy building a 65 car, and I did him the same intake that I use. I know the combination that works, its up to the customer to fit it under the hood.
This will date me, but I remember back when Ray Christian's 67 car had a cut down tunnel ram under the hood. I thought then that he had to have lowered the motor some to get that under the hood.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: SS/AH in scale - 03/02/08 11:17 AM
Quote:Quote:
Some update photos. Does anyone have a scan of the Jackson Engine sticker ? If Charlie doesn't mind I'd like to scale it down for my build.
That is absolutely astounding
Liteweight
I have , but they are not cheap. This build has over 80 hours in it. Yours wouldn't be that extensive, but would still require a lot of scratch building. Here's one I did.
http://public.fotki.com/Maliburacr/randal-kleins-super/
If you want you can e mail me .
Bud
Posted By: sshemifan
Re: SS/AH in scale - 03/02/08 02:22 PM
Charlie,
did you ever sell your automatic car and start building another stick car?
Thanks, John
did you ever sell your automatic car and start building another stick car?
Thanks, John
Posted By: warfish
Re: SS/AH in scale - 03/03/08 12:05 AM
Quote:
Charlie,
did you ever sell your automatic car and start building another stick car?
Thanks, John
No, I have put that on hold. I am having a hard time keeping up with all that I have to do. I would like to have another stick car though
cw
Posted By: HEMI472
Re: SS/AH in scale - 03/03/08 05:19 AM
so what is the results of i though he was gettig 2 more runs?
i though he was gettig 2 more runs?
Posted By: YbNoRmAL
Re: SS/AH in scale - 03/03/08 04:31 PM
Anybody got any results from Belle Rose or Chandler. Did any Mopars do any good in eliminations. Any results? Any thing?
Posted By: JAKE68
Re: SS/AH in scale - 03/03/08 05:29 PM
They all lost in first round.
Posted By: 64ssmax
Re: SS/AH in scale - 03/03/08 05:55 PM
Hebert made it to second round. Div 4
http://www.dragracecentral.com/SeriesIndex.asp?Series=DRAG-SUMMIT&Filter=100
http://www.dragracecentral.com/SeriesIndex.asp?Series=DRAG-SUMMIT&Filter=100
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: SS/AH in scale - 03/03/08 08:55 PM
Sherman broke the trans in 1st round. Lil Joe spun while it was in the air. Jim Pancake did not run on Sunday. Hebert had a bye in the first and I believe an .002 red in the second. Lots of headwind all weekend except for Sat late when the heat came in. My tag had 1800 ft which included a 30.30 barometer. I think Jeff went red also in the Dart.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: MCHRE - 03/04/08 02:49 AM
Quote:
so what is the results of
Looks like Kobolok is like every other engine builder, he keeps the best piece for his own car!
Posted By: ro23car
Re: MCHRE - 03/04/08 06:35 AM
who is kobolok
Posted By: Chris2581
Re: MCHRE - 03/04/08 10:26 AM
Quote:
who is kobolok
Jeff at MCH
Posted By: JAKE68
Re: MCHRE - 03/04/08 01:01 PM
Quote:What made you think that?Quote:
so what is the results of
Looks like Kobolok is like every other engine builder, he keeps the best piece for his own car!
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: MCHRE - 03/04/08 02:03 PM
isnt that faster than any of his customers have ever went?
Posted By: ro23car
Re: MCHRE - 03/04/08 02:58 PM
well what about cw didnt he go faster than his customers at times
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: MCHRE - 03/04/08 03:04 PM
not AT TIMES its ALL the time.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: MCHRE - 03/04/08 03:25 PM
Quote:
not AT TIMES its ALL the time.
I guess we are in agreement, all engine builders have the fastest car.
Posted By: JAKE68
Re: MCHRE - 03/04/08 03:41 PM
Sorry to say but he has not gone as fast as his customers. Also the motor that was in the car is the one that was in it when he bought it.
Posted By: warfish
Re: MCHRE - 03/04/08 03:57 PM
I guess we are in agreement, all engine builders have the fastest car.
the engine builder may have the fastest car in the stable, but some stables have thoroughbreds, and some have mules, which stable do you want to be in.
cw
Posted By: ro23car
Re: MCHRE - 03/04/08 04:09 PM
me personaly id ratehr be in the one with a good personality no matter whos it is
Posted By: 64ssmax
Re: MCHRE - 03/04/08 04:43 PM
Quote:Quote:
not AT TIMES its ALL the time.
I guess we are in agreement, all engine builders have the fastest car.
isn't bucky a painter?
Posted By: moeflo
Re: MCHRE - 03/04/08 04:47 PM
Does anybody happen to know how the weather checked during the 4th round of S/S qualifying at the Belle Rose. La. race? I had some first time out heads on a brand X car there. Just wondering...
Posted By: HEMI472
Re: MCHRE - 03/04/08 04:52 PM
yes buckey is a painter and he had to go find a engine builder who dont have a ss/ah car. when he ran bartons motors he was fast till barton built his own car?????
Posted By: BryanRad
Re: MCHRE - 03/04/08 05:01 PM
Larry Morgan breaks your always rule.
Always and never are two of the smallest big words in the dictionary.
Always and never are two of the smallest big words in the dictionary.
Posted By: 64ssmax
Re: MCHRE - 03/04/08 05:02 PM
Quote:
yes buckey is a painter and he had to go find a engine builder who dont have a ss/ah car. when he ran bartons motors he was fast till barton built his own car?????
your missing the point. most AH racers ink checks to buy fast engines and got know clue how to put the power to the track. Bucky, henson, woo, wilkes, raines, pancake and a few others are the only non engine builders that I know of that know how to make the car go down the track.
Posted By: warfish
Re: MCHRE - 03/04/08 05:31 PM
Quote:
me personaly id ratehr be in the one with a good personality no matter whos it is
so when you choose someone to do open heart surgery, do you go to the bar and see who is fun to talk to, or do you look for someone who isnt going to kill you?
my customers apreciate the fact that I develop all the new technology on my car, track test it, and prove it works before they get it. when you buy a part from me whether its an oil pump, or an engine, it is proven. It isnt something that I think will work, It has already performed. last year at belle rose henson out ran me, and at every race that we were all at, the top cars were all my customers. I think my program is doing fine, I dont need to dream up excuses, and scenarios for how fast we could have went if we had the right convertor, trans ratio, etc. Excuse never won anything.
Posted By: JC Childress
Re: MCHRE - 03/04/08 05:36 PM
He may not be 100% politically correct to everyone all the time, but CW has a mission and thats winning races and building engines capable of winning races. I have the utmost respect for he and his father. I like someone who will tell it like it is and not sugarcoat it.
The old saying is " the truth hurts " !
The old saying is " the truth hurts " !
Posted By: Billet426
Re: MCHRE - 03/05/08 12:26 PM
Quote:
The old saying is " the truth hurts " !
I would say that is right on. And Jr is a [Edited by Moparts - Keep it clean] most of the time, and that truth hurts.
And the part about has a mission and thats winning races and building engines capable of winning races Gee doesn't that describe a whole bunch of really great people in this industry?? You don't have to be a [Edited by Moparts - Keep it clean] to do that.
Posted By: JC Childress
Re: MCHRE - 03/05/08 01:16 PM
I guess each to his own. He doesnt offend me. I have thick skin and a great sense of humour. I just think he and his dad are more focused on making horsepower and winning races than a lot of others. I aint directing this at anyone, so if the shoe fits, wear it.
Posted By: JERICOGTX
Re: MCHRE - 03/05/08 05:12 PM
Did Jeff buy Wilkes car? Anyone have pictures of Wilkes car?
Posted By: SuperStocker
Re: MCHRE - 03/05/08 05:34 PM
No, Jeff bought Jerry Caro's Dart. I don't know why Wilkes' Barracuda hasn't sold. That car has been fast since day one. I wish I had the money...
https://www.autoimagery.com/store/cgi-bi...amp;sortfiles=2
https://www.autoimagery.com/store/cgi-bi...amp;sortfiles=2
Posted By: Dyno1
Timing Pointer with Jesel - 03/05/08 06:19 PM
I can not find the name or thread of the person that was selling the timing pointer that can be used with a Jesel belt for a Hemi or 440. Someone help? Thanks, Dyno
Posted By: JERICOGTX
Re: Timing Pointer with Jesel - 03/05/08 07:15 PM
Dan, AndyF on the board is the one that sells the pointer mount you are looking for.
Jeff
Jeff
Posted By: warfish
Re: Timing Pointer with Jesel - 03/05/08 07:52 PM
Quote:
I can not find the name or thread of the person that was selling the timing pointer that can be used with a Jesel belt for a Hemi or 440. Someone help? Thanks, Dyno
I have one too, I will be selling them on my new webpage soon.
Posted By: B_Body_Bob
Re: MCHRE - 03/05/08 10:54 PM
Quote:
No, Jeff bought Jerry Caro's Dart. I don't know why Wilkes' Barracuda hasn't sold. That car has been fast since day one. I wish I had the money...
https://www.autoimagery.com/store/cgi-bi...amp;sortfiles=2
Ebay link http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1968-Plym...1QQcmdZViewItem
Posted By: ro23car
Re: MCHRE - 03/06/08 01:54 AM
Quote:hmmmmm well chukie what happened at indy last year with you and your dad seems to me that both of you brokeQuote:
me personaly id ratehr be in the one with a good personality no matter whos it is
so when you choose someone to do open heart surgery, do you go to the bar and see who is fun to talk to, or do you look for someone who isnt going to kill you?
my customers apreciate the fact that I develop all the new technology on my car, track test it, and prove it works before they get it. when you buy a part from me whether its an oil pump, or an engine, it is proven. It isnt something that I think will work, It has already performed. last year at belle rose henson out ran me, and at every race that we were all at, the top cars were all my customers. I think my program is doing fine, I dont need to dream up excuses, and scenarios for how fast we could have went if we had the right convertor, trans ratio, etc. Excuse never won anything.
Posted By: warfish
Re: MCHRE - 03/06/08 02:33 AM
thats correct, we both broke. we also won the next 3 races we went to. You see when you are developing new parts, things break occasionally. it goes back to my way of breaking in new ideas before I pass them on to customers.
If I remember, your buddy jeffs flagship (keyes) layed down a 9.20 something, and we went 70 something. Thats only about 100 hp behind. we have been on the dyno all winter (we have a real dyno room, not one with headers blowing exhaust in it like MCH) and when we hit the track, everyone will get a wakeup call. That car that the fruit bought went 60's last I knew, now after his tune-up it goes .99. I wouldnt be throwing to many daggers my way.
later
cw
If I remember, your buddy jeffs flagship (keyes) layed down a 9.20 something, and we went 70 something. Thats only about 100 hp behind. we have been on the dyno all winter (we have a real dyno room, not one with headers blowing exhaust in it like MCH) and when we hit the track, everyone will get a wakeup call. That car that the fruit bought went 60's last I knew, now after his tune-up it goes .99. I wouldnt be throwing to many daggers my way.
later
cw
Posted By: willp
Re: MCHRE - 03/06/08 12:37 PM
Something I have always wondered about on the SS/AH motors. Has anyone ever tested on the dyno with a different or larger 4150 series carb than what is specified by NHRA rules? If so what was the results.
Thanks
Will
Thanks
Will
Posted By: warfish
Re: MCHRE - 03/06/08 04:36 PM
Quote:
Something I have always wondered about on the SS/AH motors. Has anyone ever tested on the dyno with a different or larger 4150 series carb than what is specified by NHRA rules? If so what was the results.
Thanks
Will
I've never done that, the stock carbs work fine if you do them right.
Posted By: BADDART
Re: MCHRE - 03/06/08 06:29 PM
Quote:
thats correct, we both broke. we also won the next 3 races we went to. You see when you are developing new parts, things break occasionally. it goes back to my way of breaking in new ideas before I pass them on to customers.
If I remember, your buddy jeffs flagship (keyes) layed down a 9.20 something, and we went 70 something. Thats only about 100 hp behind. we have been on the dyno all winter (we have a real dyno room, not one with headers blowing exhaust in it like MCH) and when we hit the track, everyone will get a wakeup call. That car that the fruit bought went 60's last I knew, now after his tune-up it goes .99. I wouldnt be throwing to many daggers my way.
later
cw
Why is Jeff referred to in every conversation?Your greatness can stand on its own.
Later
BD
Posted By: warfish
Re: MCHRE - 03/06/08 07:17 PM
Why is Jeff referred to in every conversation?Your greatness can stand on its own.
Later
BD
cause its his buddies that always are first to slam me, they should look around a little.
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: MCHRE - 03/06/08 08:59 PM
I just like the
Posted By: Phil Saran
Re: SS/AH Cars - 03/06/08 11:57 PM
Will any of the east coast SS/AH cars be heading
to Vegas for the HEMI shoot out at Mopars at the Strip at the end of March?
Posted By: racerhog
Re: MCHRE - 03/07/08 12:01 AM
Posted By: moderncylinder
Re: MCHRE - 03/07/08 03:48 AM
thanks bucky,, it was nice to talk to you on the phone for that few minutes on friday..
though it goes against better judgement,, ill say something here,, i wanted to get comfortable in the car on thursday but with the trans problem on my first run it kinda messed that plan up,, and then i missed the first two sessions on friday. the third session i just drove the car down the track to make sure all felt good,, after driving down straight through just about and working my butt off to get ready to go down there and get work out the door my mind wasnt in the best place,, so i wanted to take it easy. the 2nd pass for me was the best pass actually,, i couldnt hold the car on the foot brake with the 2-step and rolled through the lights,, i went 9.30 with a 1.7 60-ft,, then the 8.99 pass i tried to hit the brakes harder and rolled through again with a 1.4 60-ft.
i got my grade point,,i got comfortable in the car and comfortable with all going on with jerry's assistance and pointers. everyone was helpfull down there,,big joe,, jerry,, little joe,, tim,, todd,, daniel,, ryan and his stocker truck buddy,, warren barnett,, and sid especially for rebuilding the trans on friday morning while jerry and i were standing there.
i know i have work to do,, i dont mind it,, ill try to get done what i can and hopefully by the us nationals ill have my stuff together. my dyno is fine,, exhaust goes out the roof,, no issues there. i actually put a motor on and didnt change a thing for 6-7 pulls to make sure it would repeat and it was right on.
after taking the car out for the first time myself,, though jerry had all the bugs worked out,, me not racing too much in past years and not at this level i just wasnt prepared and learned what i need to do for the next time to go out,, things i need to change,, things i need to get,, i appreciate all the calls and emails from the super stock guys and stocker guys being supportive after i had such a bad weekend with things going wrong,, but i still had a good time..
jeff,, aka
that was for you bucky,,, lol
though it goes against better judgement,, ill say something here,, i wanted to get comfortable in the car on thursday but with the trans problem on my first run it kinda messed that plan up,, and then i missed the first two sessions on friday. the third session i just drove the car down the track to make sure all felt good,, after driving down straight through just about and working my butt off to get ready to go down there and get work out the door my mind wasnt in the best place,, so i wanted to take it easy. the 2nd pass for me was the best pass actually,, i couldnt hold the car on the foot brake with the 2-step and rolled through the lights,, i went 9.30 with a 1.7 60-ft,, then the 8.99 pass i tried to hit the brakes harder and rolled through again with a 1.4 60-ft.
i got my grade point,,i got comfortable in the car and comfortable with all going on with jerry's assistance and pointers. everyone was helpfull down there,,big joe,, jerry,, little joe,, tim,, todd,, daniel,, ryan and his stocker truck buddy,, warren barnett,, and sid especially for rebuilding the trans on friday morning while jerry and i were standing there.
i know i have work to do,, i dont mind it,, ill try to get done what i can and hopefully by the us nationals ill have my stuff together. my dyno is fine,, exhaust goes out the roof,, no issues there. i actually put a motor on and didnt change a thing for 6-7 pulls to make sure it would repeat and it was right on.
after taking the car out for the first time myself,, though jerry had all the bugs worked out,, me not racing too much in past years and not at this level i just wasnt prepared and learned what i need to do for the next time to go out,, things i need to change,, things i need to get,, i appreciate all the calls and emails from the super stock guys and stocker guys being supportive after i had such a bad weekend with things going wrong,, but i still had a good time..
jeff,, aka
that was for you bucky,,, lol
Posted By: 68Fastback
Re: MCHRE - 03/07/08 04:06 AM
Hey Jeff congrats on making it back thru all that stuff. Now get your stuff together again and head to the MATS there will be a huge Moparts crowd there, many of whom are your customers and all around good racing. I know someone with a B1 ladder bar Cuda who is looking to line up against a SS/AH car for fun.
Jesse
Jesse
Posted By: Stk4405
Re: MCHRE - 03/07/08 04:39 AM
It was a plesure meeting you once again Jeff and I wish you the best of luck. You are right, you did have a lot of things going on at one time. If you want more help, pull that thing down for the Cajun Sportsnationals so we can show you more of our cajun hospitality. Maybe even get you to eat a crawfish.
Also maybe one day I will get to use the s.b.c. heads you did for me.
Also maybe one day I will get to use the s.b.c. heads you did for me.
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: MCHRE - 03/07/08 06:12 PM
It only gets worse.But when you do get that good run it don't get any better!
Posted By: cudadoug
Re: MCHRE - 03/07/08 11:38 PM
Quote:Quote:
Something I have always wondered about on the SS/AH motors. Has anyone ever tested on the dyno with a different or larger 4150 series carb than what is specified by NHRA rules? If so what was the results.
Thanks
Will
I've never done that, the stock carbs work fine if you do them right.
And what would be the point? I would think that these moders are too costly and time too valuable to try something just to try it when it's not legal...
Posted By: willp
Re: MCHRE - 03/08/08 01:03 AM
And what would be the point? I would think that these moders are too costly and time too valuable to try something just to try it when it's not legal...
moders? Those carbs are expensive. Just curious if 850dp or something similar makes anymore hp.
moders? Those carbs are expensive. Just curious if 850dp or something similar makes anymore hp.
Posted By: cgall
Re: MCHRE - 03/08/08 01:29 AM
I remember back in the days of Modified Production there were SS/A cars that ran A/MP with bigger carbs on the cross ram manifold...I can ask around if it ever stops snowing.
Posted By: 340Cuda
Re: MCHRE - 03/08/08 01:44 AM
Quote:
thanks jeff,, aka
Now that's funny, you should put one on the side of your car!
Good Luck!
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: MCHRE - 03/08/08 03:35 AM
The M/P cars were a few tenths faster, but we usally pulled the crossram in favor of a tunnelram and dominators. There was also extensive port work on the heads that you could not do on Superstock heads and be legal.Along with more overbore and higher compression pistons. Also the M/P cars were gutted and fiberglass doors and trunklids were used. So the cars were much more different than a carb change...
Posted By: HEMI472
Re: MCHRE - 03/08/08 06:01 AM
glad to see the is back
is back
Posted By: ASA1711
Re: MCHRE - 03/08/08 12:17 PM
Bucky,
Are you going to Belle Rose or Atco in April?
Are you going to Belle Rose or Atco in April?
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: MCHRE - 03/09/08 02:20 AM
I may go watch at belle rose depends on how far I am on my new car.Looks like Lil Joe is King again in Orlando
Posted By: StewartP
Famous people today Orlando - 03/09/08 03:32 AM
Lil Joe and Dick Oldfield
Posted By: StewartP
Re: Famous people today Orlando - 03/09/08 03:33 AM
Bill Brooks and Dick Oldfield
Posted By: StewartP
Re: Famous people today Orlando - 03/09/08 03:33 AM
Bullet Bob and Dick Oldfield
Posted By: StewartP
Re: Famous people today Orlando - 03/09/08 03:34 AM
Hensley and Dick Oldfield
Posted By: ro23car
Re: MCHRE - 03/09/08 05:21 AM
Quote:
Why is Jeff referred to in every conversation?Your greatness can stand on its own.
Later
BD
cause its his buddies that always are first to slam me, they should look around a little.
sorry charlie ive been gone for a few days i know ya miss me no one slammed you if fact you have been doing all the slaming and ya know something i would make a comment on whoever was doing the bad mouthing thats the great thing about being in america any hoo chukie im done for a bit and if i ever do slam ya you will know it take care
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: SS/AH in scale - 03/09/08 10:48 PM
Old Ray did alot crazy stuff in the old days...I passed him on the way to Edgewater Raceway on old Rt.23 and Slim and him were leaning over the fenders of his old white 68'AA car adjusting the valves while going down the road at 55-60mph...This was on an open trailer... When I got to the track I asked him why he was doing that, he told me he was just getting it back together and he wanted all his time trials....How one of those highway patrol cars we passed didn't get him was beyond me..
When I got to the track I asked him why he was doing that, he told me he was just getting it back together and he wanted all his time trials....How one of those highway patrol cars we passed didn't get him was beyond me..
Posted By: YbNoRmAL
Re: SS/AH in scale - 03/11/08 05:33 PM
Has anybody heard from Stella?
Posted By: tampabucs1
Re: Famous people today Orlando - 03/15/08 02:34 AM
orlando 99
Posted By: tampabucs1
Re: Famous people today Orlando - 03/15/08 02:38 AM
orlando again
Posted By: tampabucs1
Re: Famous people today Orlando - 03/15/08 02:39 AM
cuda
Posted By: SealockRacing
Re: Famous people today Orlando - 03/15/08 02:18 PM
so, im just wondering...
what size back tires are you SS/AH guys running, or what are they allowed to run?
what type of suspension, front suspension etc.
what do these cars weigh?
are 67's legal if we were to put a barton motor in it, and build it to the rule books, or is it limited only to 68's which were the factory SS cars?
im talking about a 'cuda here...
ill post up pics of mine cleaned up, and outside today after i do some washing on it!
these cars are amazing!
what size back tires are you SS/AH guys running, or what are they allowed to run?
what type of suspension, front suspension etc.
what do these cars weigh?
are 67's legal if we were to put a barton motor in it, and build it to the rule books, or is it limited only to 68's which were the factory SS cars?
im talking about a 'cuda here...
ill post up pics of mine cleaned up, and outside today after i do some washing on it!
these cars are amazing!
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Famous people today Orlando - 03/17/08 02:42 AM
man lil joe could use some orange on that king cuda..lol..hey jeff that's cool you made some shake down runs before going wide open.i made my 3rd pass ever at the dutch then crashed my dad's first car on the 9th pass in the car.so i know the jitters.even though i had no control of that i heard i can't drive.the car will go back together after we get dad's cuda ready.but i think all this ah crap is gay and you'll find that people who you think are your friends really aren't.all that matters is what goes down at the track not on this keypad race.
Posted By: 64HemiSavoy
Re: Famous people today Orlando - 03/17/08 11:17 AM
Travis, we were at the Dutch when you had your accident. We thought you did a great job for the first time in a beast like that. I have not met any driver yet who knows how to drive with oil on the tires. You did a great job that weekend.
Posted By: warfish
Re: Famous people today Orlando - 03/18/08 12:58 AM
Quote:
all that matters is what goes down at the track not on this keypad race.
I'll second that. its alot easier to talk a big game than it is to do it. I remember when we went to belle rose last year with Woo, he hadnt even made a licence pass yet, hadnt raced in 20 years, and his fist full pass was a 8.67. pretty good for a shakedown pass. A good motor makes up for alot of other shortcomings.
Just took my motor off the dyno this morning, its in the car, and we are getting ready for the vegas trip. I sent henson his motor friday. we will be well represented at MATS. Rains, Woo, Henson, and both of our cars. should be interesting.
cw
Posted By: nitrojoe
C-25 at Vegas - 03/18/08 05:23 PM
Just wanted to let everybody that is heading to Vegas, bring your own gas or make connections with this VP company and they will bring you some, VP will NOT be at the track cause of the Torco contract.
WE (MATS) bought a NHRA gas checker so all fuel will be checked by Wesley after each run.
Hope to see whom ever at Vegas, I'll be there Weds to Weds with my folks and son, should be a wonderful week for us as my mother is part of the 40th anniversary of the 68 Hemi cars.
Here is the VP contact:
Western Regional Sales Manager
> VP Racing Fuels, Inc.
> PO Box 1319
> Wildomar, CA. 92595
> 951-696-5100 Office
> 951-696-5577 Fax
> 909-322-0737 Cell
2008 Mopar SS/AH Hemi Super Stock Challenge Series
At
At Las Vegas Motor Speedway
March 28-30, 2008
NHRA SS/AH Rules and Tech apply
· All cars must pass NHRA tech: Tech Official Wesley Roberson
· New for 2008 The 2007 Rulebook states: ?Alteration to shock or spring towers prohibited.? (BODY:7, Fender Splash Pans, page 72).
In order to maintain a stock appearance, the entire shock tower and inner fender panel area may not be modified with bubbles, dimples, humps, bumps, lumps, or tubs. Also, cutting, moving, and refinishing inner fender panel surfaces not allowed, even if it ?looks stock.?
At left is an example of a car with acceptable inner fender panel appearance; at right is an example of a car with unacceptable, modified inner fender (showing tire clearance hump).
· New for 2008 Fuel check: NHRA-accepted racing gasoline only. Propylene oxide and/or nitrous oxide prohibited. See NHRA 2008 rulebook General Regulations 1:6. Racers are responsible for their own race fuel. Fuel will be checked by Wesley Roberson.
· Winner and Runner Up will be sealed up after the final round and the winner will be torn down and re-scaled per NHRA SS/AH rules, prior to an event champion being declared.
· Neutral location for winner teardown.
Nevarez Racing Products has been secured, 6925 Speedway Blvd #C-11, Speedway Industrial Park Phone 702-499-1222
· Heads up racing for all participants
· Under the direction of Nitro Joe Jackson and Wesley Roberson of Division 4.
Qualifying will be on Friday March 28, 2008, for qualifying ladder and the MCG/Painter Dodge Cup
*MCG /Painter Dodge Quickest Super Stock Shoot-Out. Class is for all 68 Hemi Dart and 68 Cuda’s and other qualifying SS/AH- NHRA approved Race Cars. To have your name on the MCG Cup you must simply out run everyone else, and post an ET Quicker than last year’s winner (07 Cup Winner Charlie Westcott Jr 8.802) . If you can accomplish this while staying within NHRA SS/AH rules your name goes on the MCG/Painter Dodge Cup. The Cup will be on display at the Cannery Hotel and Casino until next year’s event.
Run cards will have designated lanes on them for each qualifying run (R,L,R or L,R,L) to keep fairness of one lane being better then the other.
Elimination and final rounds will be on Saturday March 29, 2008.
* New! Saturday?s Hemi Super Stock Eliminations are now included as part of the prestigious 2008 Mopar Super Stock Hemi Challenge Points Series! Competition will be set on a sportsman ladder based on Friday?s qualifying passes, racing heads up, no breakouts on a 0.5 full tree. Competitors earn eliminator-style points which will count towards the 2008 Mopar Hemi Challenge Series. Season winner crowned at 2008 NHRA US Nationals.
*Consultation Bracket for those who have lost a round, you are invited to participate in a continual grudge match race, until an eventual winner is declared, in the winners bracket. (Chicago Style). No Hemi Challenge Points awarded in Consolation Bracket.
Entry Fee $ TBA
Please e-mail moparsatthestrip@hotmail.com your race confirmation, and the number of crew credentials that you will need prior to March 14th 2008
Payout
Winner: $7500.00
Runner Up: $2500.00
Semi?s: $1500.00
Quarters: $500.00
Low ET: Cannery Cup
(16 car minimum)
Totaling over $ 15,000.00, plus Contingencies. 16 Car Minimum
Check www.moparsatthestrip.com for more event details
* Contact Information
Wesley Roberson wroberson1@comcast.net Ph # 318-396-1358
Joe Jackson nitrojoe@neo.rr.com Ph# 419-994-4993
Phil Painter moparsatthestrip@hotmail.com Office 702-256-8254
WE (MATS) bought a NHRA gas checker so all fuel will be checked by Wesley after each run.
Hope to see whom ever at Vegas, I'll be there Weds to Weds with my folks and son, should be a wonderful week for us as my mother is part of the 40th anniversary of the 68 Hemi cars.
Here is the VP contact:
Western Regional Sales Manager
> VP Racing Fuels, Inc.
> PO Box 1319
> Wildomar, CA. 92595
> 951-696-5100 Office
> 951-696-5577 Fax
> 909-322-0737 Cell
2008 Mopar SS/AH Hemi Super Stock Challenge Series
At
At Las Vegas Motor Speedway
March 28-30, 2008
NHRA SS/AH Rules and Tech apply
· All cars must pass NHRA tech: Tech Official Wesley Roberson
· New for 2008 The 2007 Rulebook states: ?Alteration to shock or spring towers prohibited.? (BODY:7, Fender Splash Pans, page 72).
In order to maintain a stock appearance, the entire shock tower and inner fender panel area may not be modified with bubbles, dimples, humps, bumps, lumps, or tubs. Also, cutting, moving, and refinishing inner fender panel surfaces not allowed, even if it ?looks stock.?
At left is an example of a car with acceptable inner fender panel appearance; at right is an example of a car with unacceptable, modified inner fender (showing tire clearance hump).
· New for 2008 Fuel check: NHRA-accepted racing gasoline only. Propylene oxide and/or nitrous oxide prohibited. See NHRA 2008 rulebook General Regulations 1:6. Racers are responsible for their own race fuel. Fuel will be checked by Wesley Roberson.
· Winner and Runner Up will be sealed up after the final round and the winner will be torn down and re-scaled per NHRA SS/AH rules, prior to an event champion being declared.
· Neutral location for winner teardown.
Nevarez Racing Products has been secured, 6925 Speedway Blvd #C-11, Speedway Industrial Park Phone 702-499-1222
· Heads up racing for all participants
· Under the direction of Nitro Joe Jackson and Wesley Roberson of Division 4.
Qualifying will be on Friday March 28, 2008, for qualifying ladder and the MCG/Painter Dodge Cup
*MCG /Painter Dodge Quickest Super Stock Shoot-Out. Class is for all 68 Hemi Dart and 68 Cuda’s and other qualifying SS/AH- NHRA approved Race Cars. To have your name on the MCG Cup you must simply out run everyone else, and post an ET Quicker than last year’s winner (07 Cup Winner Charlie Westcott Jr 8.802) . If you can accomplish this while staying within NHRA SS/AH rules your name goes on the MCG/Painter Dodge Cup. The Cup will be on display at the Cannery Hotel and Casino until next year’s event.
Run cards will have designated lanes on them for each qualifying run (R,L,R or L,R,L) to keep fairness of one lane being better then the other.
Elimination and final rounds will be on Saturday March 29, 2008.
* New! Saturday?s Hemi Super Stock Eliminations are now included as part of the prestigious 2008 Mopar Super Stock Hemi Challenge Points Series! Competition will be set on a sportsman ladder based on Friday?s qualifying passes, racing heads up, no breakouts on a 0.5 full tree. Competitors earn eliminator-style points which will count towards the 2008 Mopar Hemi Challenge Series. Season winner crowned at 2008 NHRA US Nationals.
*Consultation Bracket for those who have lost a round, you are invited to participate in a continual grudge match race, until an eventual winner is declared, in the winners bracket. (Chicago Style). No Hemi Challenge Points awarded in Consolation Bracket.
Entry Fee $ TBA
Please e-mail moparsatthestrip@hotmail.com your race confirmation, and the number of crew credentials that you will need prior to March 14th 2008
Payout
Winner: $7500.00
Runner Up: $2500.00
Semi?s: $1500.00
Quarters: $500.00
Low ET: Cannery Cup
(16 car minimum)
Totaling over $ 15,000.00, plus Contingencies. 16 Car Minimum
Check www.moparsatthestrip.com for more event details
* Contact Information
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Posted By: ro23car
Re: C-25 at Vegas - 03/20/08 09:36 PM
good luck to all those going to mats
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: C-25 at Vegas - 03/22/08 09:01 PM
Any SS/AH teams coming to Houston?
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: SS/AH in scale - 03/23/08 10:38 PM
Finished. Thanks for the info help and to Charlie for letting use his shop name.
Posted By: mk_
Re: SS/AH in scale - 03/23/08 10:52 PM
Wow........nice job!
Posted By: JulieJordan
Re: SS/AH in scale - 03/23/08 11:45 PM
Bud ~ Your cars never fail to amaze me. So much attention to detail.
Posted By: jake4cars
Re: SS/AH in scale - 03/24/08 12:15 AM
That is so cool!!! Great job Bud!
Joey
Joey
Posted By: moprod
Re: SS/AH in scale - 03/24/08 04:00 AM
you sell any?
Posted By: ro23car
Re: SS/AH in scale - 03/24/08 09:24 PM
good no great job bud but maybe you should change drivers he laid it on its side lol j/k
Posted By: 340Cuda
Re: SS/AH in scale - 03/25/08 02:06 AM
Quote:
Wow........nice job!
Incredible, fantastic work!
Posted By: SealockRacing
Re: SS/AH in scale - 03/25/08 02:11 AM
i need to get back to work on my SS/AH cuda project, inspired by buds dart!
heres a couple shots of mine!
i have pretty much just the frame done, still need to build the cage, and put the floors in it.
it isnt going to be as nice as bud's, but it will look like the cuda in my sig, which is mine
i need to find a 727 trans for it though, any help there bud?
heres a couple shots of mine!
i have pretty much just the frame done, still need to build the cage, and put the floors in it.
it isnt going to be as nice as bud's, but it will look like the cuda in my sig, which is mine
i need to find a 727 trans for it though, any help there bud?
Posted By: JERICOGTX
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 03/27/08 04:04 PM
What are most guys running AH using for headers? Has anyone run headers from this place?
http://www.racingjunk.com/post/1159842/STAINLESS-HEMI-HEADERS.html
Jeff
http://www.racingjunk.com/post/1159842/STAINLESS-HEMI-HEADERS.html
Jeff
Posted By: JAKE68
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 03/27/08 04:14 PM
Most have the motors moved around so much that they need to be made in the car................
Posted By: JERICOGTX
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 03/27/08 06:10 PM
Quote:
Most have the motors moved around so much that they to be made in the car................
That is kinda what we were thinking but wanted to know for sure. Thanks Gary.
Jeff
BTW does anyone have pictures of Howes new Barracuda that was recently in the Mopar Muscle mag?
Posted By: sshemifan
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 03/28/08 11:28 PM
From Houston, pretty good run from L'il Joe....
10 4426 SS/AH Joe Teuton Jr., Houma LA, '68 Barracuda 8.746 9.80 -1.054
Regards, John
10 4426 SS/AH Joe Teuton Jr., Houma LA, '68 Barracuda 8.746 9.80 -1.054
Regards, John
Posted By: willp
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 03/29/08 05:12 AM
Any info yet on how the hemi's are doing at Vegas at the MATS?
Posted By: sshemifan
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 03/29/08 05:18 AM
Quote:
Any info yet on how the hemi's are doing at Vegas at the MATS?
There's a little bit about it on Marie's board
John
Posted By: 70AARcuda
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 03/29/08 05:33 AM
chariles wescott jr..
ran 8.80 149+
that about all i remember
ran 8.80 149+
that about all i remember
Posted By: warfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 03/29/08 01:37 PM
we had 2 practice runs yesterday, I went .80
in qualifying I broke my trans 1st run, 2nd run I made a bad one.
the qualifying so far is
1 rains .80
2 dad .85
3 henson .86
4 pancake .92
5 houser .92
the rest are in the 90's or .00's
we get one more this morning, should be the best one
later
cw
in qualifying I broke my trans 1st run, 2nd run I made a bad one.
the qualifying so far is
1 rains .80
2 dad .85
3 henson .86
4 pancake .92
5 houser .92
the rest are in the 90's or .00's
we get one more this morning, should be the best one
later
cw
Posted By: Hemi_Jack
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 03/29/08 03:57 PM
Thanks for the update. Here is a link to some pics from the first night. http://www.horsepowerheaven.com/features_all/2008features/08moparsvegas/index.htm
Posted By: JulieJordan
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 03/29/08 04:04 PM
Ah, there's my Daddy working hard as usual!! Wish I was there to help!!
Posted By: JulieJordan
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 03/29/08 10:08 PM
Vegas, round 2 results. Sorry it's sketchy, I'm not there.
Round 2 results:
Sr. redlit against Raines (Raines spun, don't know e.t. or if he shut off)
Vierra redlit against Pancake (8.93 148)
Houser redlit against Jr. (8.86 140)
I think Pancake has the bye next round.
Round 2 results:
Sr. redlit against Raines (Raines spun, don't know e.t. or if he shut off)
Vierra redlit against Pancake (8.93 148)
Houser redlit against Jr. (8.86 140)
I think Pancake has the bye next round.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 03/29/08 11:12 PM
Quote:
we had 2 practice runs yesterday, I went .80
in qualifying I broke my trans 1st run, 2nd run I made a bad one.
the qualifying so far is
1 rains .80
2 dad .85
3 henson .86
4 pancake .92
5 houser .92
the rest are in the 90's or .00's
we get one more this morning, should be the best one
later
cw
did you brake the trans in the trailer like the
if an .80 was a bad run i cant wait for the good one.didnt you pickup this winter another 40hp that with the 45hp you picked up last winter the good run should be a .30 with 990hp.Unless the cars junk.Is that the reason your building a new one?
what are you looking to get for the junk you have now?Wilkes car is on racingjunk for sale heard he wants 150,000 turn key and thats a good car.Would you be willing to go 80,000 turn key for yours that needs some work to handle that 990hp your working with?
Is that a Protrans your trying to plant that 990hp with?I think a 4 speed would put all that power to the ground.
I see alot of guys in texas are a little quicker than the guys in Vegas.Charlie should have went to texas
Posted By: JulieJordan
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 03/29/08 11:24 PM
Vegas is an altitude track. The guys in Texas are running mid-70's, at sea level. The runs at Vegas CW and his customers are making equate to 8.50's.
Posted By: HEMIDARTS
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 03/30/08 12:44 AM
Hemi Jack -
those are some really cool pics. Thanks for posting them!
those are some really cool pics.
Thanks for posting them!
Posted By: JulieJordan
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 03/30/08 12:48 AM
CW Jr. over Pancake in the final. I guess it was real ugly. CW had a lot of radial wobble. Pancake got so out of shape he crossed over into Jr's lane.
Good luck to all next week in Belle Rose!
Good luck to all next week in Belle Rose!
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 03/30/08 01:48 AM
Hey Julie,
"Us Guys" in Texas had the cars strictly in bracket mode. The air was over 2000' density altitude and 88 degrees when Lil Joe went 8.72 at 153 mph...So please don't make it like we're not running good Next week in belle rose we'll all be on the same track in the same weather. If we don't run good there then you can point out our lack of performance.
Allen
"Us Guys" in Texas had the cars strictly in bracket mode. The air was over 2000' density altitude and 88 degrees when Lil Joe went 8.72 at 153 mph...So please don't make it like we're not running good
Next week in belle rose we'll all be on the same track in the same weather. If we don't run good there then you can point out our lack of performance.Allen
Posted By: HemiDart68
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 03/30/08 02:10 AM
Quote:
Hey Julie,
"Us Guys" in Texas had the cars strictly in bracket mode. The air was over 2000' density altitude and 88 degrees when Lil Joe went 8.72 at 153 mph...So please don't make it like we're not running good
Allen
The Teutons are Class acts all the way. Its great to see them doing well. Good Luck in Belle Rose.
Posted By: JulieJordan
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 03/30/08 02:18 AM
Quote:
Hey Julie,
"Us Guys" in Texas had the cars strictly in bracket mode. The air was over 2000' density altitude and 88 degrees when Lil Joe went 8.72 at 153 mph...So please don't make it like we're not running good
Allen
Allen ~ In no way did I mean that to be a slam against you guys. Sorry if you took it that way. Merely pointing out that comparing scoreboards runs at altitude and non-altitude tracks is like comparing apples and oranges. Sorry if that wasn't clear. Good luck next week.
Posted By: wldtm
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 03/30/08 02:50 AM
Quote:Quote:
we had 2 practice runs yesterday, I went .80
in qualifying I broke my trans 1st run, 2nd run I made a bad one.
the qualifying so far is
1 rains .80
2 dad .85
3 henson .86
4 pancake .92
5 houser .92
the rest are in the 90's or .00's
we get one more this morning, should be the best one
later
cw
did you brake the trans in the trailer like the
if an .80 was a bad run i cant wait for the good one.didnt you pickup this winter another 40hp that with the 45hp you picked up last winter the good run should be a .30 with 990hp.Unless the cars junk.Is that the reason your building a new one?
what are you looking to get for the junk you have now?Wilkes car is on racingjunk for sale heard he wants 150,000 turn key and thats a good car.Would you be willing to go 80,000 turn key for yours that needs some work to handle that 990hp your working with?
Is that a Protrans your trying to plant that 990hp with?I think a 4 speed would put all that power to the ground.
I see alot of guys in texas are a little quicker than the guys in Vegas.Charlie should have went to texas
looks like he did what he showed up to do. CW whats the deal with the radial wobbles on your cars. I remember seeing yours do it a couple times if i remember correctly. At the U.S. nationals and at Columbus.jm
Posted By: willp
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 03/31/08 01:12 AM
Pretty good article on Vegas MATS in Dragracing online.
http://www.moparmax.com/events/2008/iii_3-mats-1.html
http://www.moparmax.com/events/2008/iii_3-mats-1.html
Posted By: JC Childress
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 03/31/08 01:46 PM
The way I see it, CW went to Vegas for one thing...to win. Mission accomplished !
Good job Charlie.
Good job Charlie.
Posted By: Mroctober
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 03/31/08 08:57 PM
A Win is a Win!!!!!!!!!!
Posted By: sshemifan
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/01/08 09:32 PM
Congrats, Charlie--good jobs at the MATS!!Good Luck to all the SS/AH teams at Belle Rose!!
Regards, John
Posted By: warfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/02/08 07:16 PM
thanks for all the support, we should be there soon, has anyone heard when the is pullin out?
later
cw
is pullin out?later
cw
Posted By: warfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/03/08 01:13 PM
Quote:
thanks for all the support, we should be there soon, has anyone heard when the
later
cw
I guess he is leaving
Posted By: moderncylinder
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/03/08 02:07 PM
charlie did you drop out of school in the 2nd grade or did your mental development just stop at 10 years old? ive never known/met or any of the above,, someone that is driven so much and works so hard to acheive his goals but is absolutely immature.
you rank #1 on one of my lists charlie,,, the most immature adult i know,, i think ive known 6 year olds that have more advanced people skills than you.
im not going to belle rose,, i had a water leak into the oil that i couldnt get resolved and thought it best to not go down there and not beable to race or have small issues again that i need to sort out. i hope to get my first full pass on the car at the indy points race.
p.s. for those of you that monitor this page,, i guess we now know who was photo shopping all those pictures with me in them a year ago or so. right on charlie,, glad to see in your little world you think this is funny,, does your dad look at this stuff too? there is no way he is proud of you for this.
im sure youll have a list of clever comebacks, as most all 10 year olds do,,, good luck down there,,, thats all i have to say,, till we meet,, and then we can see how you act and what you say to my face..
peace out,,, jeff
you rank #1 on one of my lists charlie,,, the most immature adult i know,, i think ive known 6 year olds that have more advanced people skills than you.
im not going to belle rose,, i had a water leak into the oil that i couldnt get resolved and thought it best to not go down there and not beable to race or have small issues again that i need to sort out. i hope to get my first full pass on the car at the indy points race.
p.s. for those of you that monitor this page,, i guess we now know who was photo shopping all those pictures with me in them a year ago or so. right on charlie,, glad to see in your little world you think this is funny,, does your dad look at this stuff too? there is no way he is proud of you for this.
im sure youll have a list of clever comebacks, as most all 10 year olds do,,, good luck down there,,, thats all i have to say,, till we meet,, and then we can see how you act and what you say to my face..
peace out,,, jeff
Posted By: warfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/03/08 02:56 PM
you are #1 on my list of wanna-bees.
excuses never won anything, I need to get our cars ready cause we will be running today. The top 4 at vegas were my motors, where were your customers.
later
cw
excuses never won anything, I need to get our cars ready cause we will be running today. The top 4 at vegas were my motors, where were your customers.
later
cw
Posted By: cgall
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/03/08 04:21 PM
This thread reminds me of the late 60's when Stone, Woods, and Cook were running ads in the Dragster taunting Ohio George and Big John before the match races. Great entertainment.
Good luck to all this weekend.
Good luck to all this weekend.
Posted By: SSHemi364
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/03/08 05:52 PM
Your wrong, the Gasser guy's never sunk to this level. They never got personal, and none of them ever broke their arms patting themselves on the back.
This stuff is sick and a good example of why the internet is a bad idea. People say things on these boards that they wouldn't have the balls to say to someone's face.
On the positive side, I've seen this dog and pony show before and it eventually fixes itself.
Tony DePillo
This stuff is sick and a good example of why the internet is a bad idea. People say things on these boards that they wouldn't have the balls to say to someone's face.
On the positive side, I've seen this dog and pony show before and it eventually fixes itself.
Tony DePillo
Posted By: BADDART
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/03/08 05:55 PM
AGAIN!The big man needs a patsy to stroke his ego.
Stick to racing,it's much more becoming. Chris
Stick to racing,it's much more becoming.
Chris
Posted By: Troublemaker427
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/03/08 06:17 PM
Quote:
Your wrong, the Gasser guy's never sunk to this level. They never got personal, and none of them ever broke their arms patting themselves on the back.
This stuff is sick and a good example of why the internet is a bad idea. People say things on these boards that they wouldn't have the balls to say to someone's face.
On the positive side, I've seen this dog and pony show before and it eventually fixes itself.
Tony DePillo
I wonder where Stella has been.....
Posted By: B1CUDA
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/03/08 07:41 PM
Quote:
Your wrong, the Gasser guy's never sunk to this level. They never got personal, and none of them ever broke their arms patting themselves on the back.
This stuff is sick and a good example of why the internet is a bad idea. People say things on these boards that they wouldn't have the balls to say to someone's face.
On the positive side, I've seen this dog and pony show before and it eventually fixes itself.
Tony DePillo
I agree 100%. I was in Vegas last weekend making license passes with my car. In fact, I was in the same row as all of the SS/AH cars. I walked by Westcotts pit to see if he was some big dude that could back up all of the drivel that he spews on the internet. When I saw him in person, I just had to laugh and consider the immense amount of ignorance and/or stupidity as the source of his motivation. I am really hoping for a response from him to prove my point.
Posted By: mr_340
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/03/08 08:19 PM
WC would be better off shutting his mouth and letting his on track performance speak for him. I think he would get more respect if he did that. I would never bad mouth someone for getting out there and running their car, especially a Hemi car. I like to see them all. WC is one reason I don't go to Belle Rose anymore. Some people seem to enjoy the "wrasslin' match", but I think most are interested in the technology and engine building skills. It seems to me if you are the Big Dog on the block, you don't need to brag about it, everyone knows already. Let others do the bragging for you.
Posted By: Billet426
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/03/08 09:52 PM
Just another internet punk driving his daddy's car.
The only thing that surprises me is anyone has bought into her spiel
The only thing that surprises me is anyone has bought into her spiel
Posted By: B G Racing
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/03/08 10:23 PM
The guys that run the SS/AH cars are viewed as the super stars of the super/stock classes.Like any sport figure that's on the top in his game they are viewed as people that others would look up to for inspiration.We hold those individuals to higher level of professionalism.Just because people that compete against each other or have a different opinion of each other can't get along is nothing new.The best thing to do is ignore each other or just make lite of the situation.To antagonize each other just adds fuel to the fire.To bring it to public attention makes everyone look foolish and gives others a forum to jump on the band wagon and make things worse.I like to kid around and bust some stones as much as the next guy,but I'am not a visible super star racer like you guys.If you do it in the manner of having fun,that's fine. But I think that Charlie and Jeff have an unsettled past issue that needs to be left in the past.Yesterday is gone.If there is no love kick each others butts at the track,and keep the private issues to the inner-circle.The undertones of the issue displayed is like two skunks wanting to get in a peeing match(no winner)Let us all look up to you guys for your accomplishments in the sport,your professionalism,and inspiration.I hold you guys in high regard as does many others,don't dissapoint us(please)
Posted By: LO23
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/03/08 10:30 PM
Posted By: cudadoug
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/03/08 10:38 PM
Well said Mr. George. The thing is, that CW won't be at the top of the heap forever. Sooner or later someone will come along, make more power and go faster.
CW probably doesn't think so, but: First it was S&M, then this guy and that guy, then we had DeFrank/Houser/Allread, then it was Camella and Friel, then MacCallum, then Bucky/Barton, then Holton and now him. Next?? I can't wait to see who's next and to see what he has to say then. I will give him props; he is the "man" right now, but he better savor the flavor cuz it won't last forever.
you're a class act; keep it up. Be above it all...
CW probably doesn't think so, but: First it was S&M, then this guy and that guy, then we had DeFrank/Houser/Allread, then it was Camella and Friel, then MacCallum, then Bucky/Barton, then Holton and now him. Next?? I can't wait to see who's next and to see what he has to say then. I will give him props; he is the "man" right now, but he better savor the flavor cuz it won't last forever.
you're a class act; keep it up. Be above it all...
Posted By: B G Racing
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/04/08 12:02 AM
Quote:
Well said Mr. George. The thing is, that CW won't be at the top of the heap forever. Sooner or later someone will come along, make more power and go faster.
CW probably doesn't think so, but: First it was S&M, then this guy and that guy, then we had DeFrank/Houser/Allread, then it was Camella and Friel, then MacCallum, then Bucky/Barton, then Holton and now him. Next?? I can't wait to see who's next and to see what he has to say then. I will give him props; he is the "man" right now, but he better savor the flavor cuz it won't last forever.
I tell everyone,it' how you want to be remembered.When you leave this world all you leave is the mark of your character(what kind of person you were)My son Curt,was killed in a construction accident in 2004.He was a good racer and worker.He left behind his legesy(his strength of character)There has been a quarter of a million dollar memorial built to honer him in the City of Pittsburgh,a return road at Pittsburgh Raceway Park(Curt George Memorial Blvd),a life size portrait of him at Mosities Con.Co.headquarters and his portrait greets everyone at the Operating Engeneers Union Hall.A Curt George Memorial Race/Chrysler ClassicAt PRP.All this because of the type of person he was.The inscription on his head stone sums it all up(A FRIEND TO ALL)This is what we leave,this is how we are remembered by who we are.The impressions we make today are how we are rembembered.
Posted By: SCATPACK 1
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/04/08 01:02 AM
Quote:Quote:
Well said Mr. George. The thing is, that CW won't be at the top of the heap forever. Sooner or later someone will come along, make more power and go faster.
Well Said Bob.
i was un aware of your loss. But now I know why EVERYONE is so excited about running the Curt George Memorial race. Speaks highly of his up bringing.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/04/08 01:25 AM
ill bet that guy is so well liked at the race track you could take up a collection to KICK HIS A--.And even if you needed bail money still come out way way way ahead.
Posted By: ro23car
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/04/08 01:56 AM
chrlie why would you even do something like that
ill bet bucky is really proud of you now
ill bet bucky is really proud of you now
Posted By: CMcAllister
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/04/08 02:55 AM
Soooo...how's the weather in Louisiana, think it will rain? How many cars are supposed to show?
Posted By: Billet426
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/04/08 11:28 AM
Well said Bob
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/04/08 11:49 AM
you forgot a big name in motors in the 70's and 80's "Barnett Race Cars"
Posted By: crossram
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/04/08 04:52 PM
1st round SS qualifying at Belle Rose
Lil' Joe 8.80
CW Sr. 8.83
Woo 8.84
Rains 11.99
CW Jr. 14.14
Lil' Joe 8.80
CW Sr. 8.83
Woo 8.84
Rains 11.99
CW Jr. 14.14
Posted By: crossram
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/04/08 04:58 PM
Rd.2 SS at Belle Rose qualifying
Rains 8.65
CW Jr. 8.70
Pancake 8.71
Sherman 8.76
Brooks 8.80
Teuton 8.81
CW Sr. 8.83
Woo 8.84
Rains 8.65
CW Jr. 8.70
Pancake 8.71
Sherman 8.76
Brooks 8.80
Teuton 8.81
CW Sr. 8.83
Woo 8.84
Posted By: cudadoug
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/04/08 07:08 PM
Doesn't Rains have CW power? I will give CW more props. Looks like he doesn't keep the best stuff for himself like some do...
Just curious CW, how far apart were/are your and Rains moders on the dyno??
Where's the MPH posted? That will tell us something...
Just curious CW, how far apart were/are your and Rains moders on the dyno??
Where's the MPH posted? That will tell us something...
Posted By: ro23car
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/04/08 10:16 PM
that 2nd qualifing dont me jack wait till its all ove to see whos car is faster the can hop on the cw bandwagon and be a follower like the pied pied piper
Posted By: YbNoRmAL
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/04/08 10:17 PM
Looks like Junior against Senior in the first round.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/04/08 10:40 PM
Wescott is not top 3 anymore, lets go PANCAKE!! gotta root for the Ohio man!!
Also lets not forget he is running barton power, and had the record of 8.55, he actually ran that unlike Rains and his bull crap factored record, And Pancake has the MPH record
Casey
Also lets not forget he is running barton power, and had the record of 8.55, he actually ran that unlike Rains and his bull crap factored record, And Pancake has the MPH record
Casey
Posted By: crossram
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/04/08 11:27 PM
Eliminator bracket for Hemi Shootout
1 J Rains SS/AH -1.145 ________
|________
0 Bye ________| |
|________
4 J Sherman SS/AH -1.031 ________ | |
|________| |
9 M Trumble SS/AH -0.827 ________| |
|________
3 J Pancake SS/AH -1.089 ________ | |
|________ | |
8 L Woo SS/AH -0.951 ________| | | |
|________| |
6 J Teuton Jr SS/AH -0.988 ________ | |
|________| |
11 T Hebert SS/AH -0.667 ________| |
|________
2 C Westcott Jr. SS/AH -1.091 ________ |
|________ |
7 C Westcott SS/AH -0.963 ________| | |
|________ |
5 W Brooks SS/AH -0.997 ________ | | |
|________| | |
10 M Hensley SS/AH -0.812 ________| | |
1 J Rains SS/AH -1.145 ________
|________
0 Bye ________| |
|________
4 J Sherman SS/AH -1.031 ________ | |
|________| |
9 M Trumble SS/AH -0.827 ________| |
|________
3 J Pancake SS/AH -1.089 ________ | |
|________ | |
8 L Woo SS/AH -0.951 ________| | | |
|________| |
6 J Teuton Jr SS/AH -0.988 ________ | |
|________| |
11 T Hebert SS/AH -0.667 ________| |
|________
2 C Westcott Jr. SS/AH -1.091 ________ |
|________ |
7 C Westcott SS/AH -0.963 ________| | |
|________ |
5 W Brooks SS/AH -0.997 ________ | | |
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10 M Hensley SS/AH -0.812 ________| | |
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/05/08 12:07 AM
I can't belive these two are still trading punches!Why don't someone have a SS/AH dyno shootout like they have been having for the wedges. I would think this would settle the "Who makes the most power" question...
Posted By: cudadoug
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/05/08 12:13 AM
Quote:
Wescott is not top 3 anymore, lets go PANCAKE!! gotta root for the Ohio man!!
Also lets not forget he is running barton power, and had the record of 8.55, he actually ran that unlike Rains and his bull crap factored record, And Pancake has the MPH record
Casey
I'm with ya! You just GOTTA love a guy from the buckeye state! (Yea, I know I'm in CA but my roots run deep in OH) Go get 'em Jim!!
Posted By: sshemifan
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/05/08 12:35 AM
1 799J SS/AH John Rains, Santa Paula CA, '68 Dart 8.655 9.80 -1.145
2 3651 SS/AH Charlie Westcott Jr., Parma MI, '68 Barrac 8.709 9.80 -1.091
3 350 SS/AH Jim Pancake, Delaware OH, '68 Dart 8.711 9.80 -1.089
4 4446 SS/AH J. Allen Sherman, Donaldsonville LA, '68 B 8.769 9.80 -1.031
5 2354 SS/AH William Brooks, Kissimmee FL, '68 Barracuda 8.803 9.80 -0.997
6 4426 SS/AH Joe Teuton Jr, Houma LA, '68 Barracuda 8.812 9.80 -0.988
7 3036 SS/AH Charlie Westcott, Parma MI, '68 Barracuda 8.837 9.80 -0.963
8 3500 SS/AH Larry Woo, Birmingham MI, '68 Barracuda 8.849 9.80 -0.951
9 4181 SS/AH Mike Trumble, Pasadena TX, '68 Cuda 8.973 9.80 -0.827
10 2904 SS/AH Matt Hensley, Knoxville TN, '68 Barracuda 8.988 9.80 -0.812
11 4420 SS/AH Tim Hebert, Thibodaux LA, '68 Cuda 9.133 9.80 -0.667
I recognize everyone except Mike Trumble, does anyone know anything about him?
P.S. Where's Bucky?
Thanks, John
2 3651 SS/AH Charlie Westcott Jr., Parma MI, '68 Barrac 8.709 9.80 -1.091
3 350 SS/AH Jim Pancake, Delaware OH, '68 Dart 8.711 9.80 -1.089
4 4446 SS/AH J. Allen Sherman, Donaldsonville LA, '68 B 8.769 9.80 -1.031
5 2354 SS/AH William Brooks, Kissimmee FL, '68 Barracuda 8.803 9.80 -0.997
6 4426 SS/AH Joe Teuton Jr, Houma LA, '68 Barracuda 8.812 9.80 -0.988
7 3036 SS/AH Charlie Westcott, Parma MI, '68 Barracuda 8.837 9.80 -0.963
8 3500 SS/AH Larry Woo, Birmingham MI, '68 Barracuda 8.849 9.80 -0.951
9 4181 SS/AH Mike Trumble, Pasadena TX, '68 Cuda 8.973 9.80 -0.827
10 2904 SS/AH Matt Hensley, Knoxville TN, '68 Barracuda 8.988 9.80 -0.812
11 4420 SS/AH Tim Hebert, Thibodaux LA, '68 Cuda 9.133 9.80 -0.667
I recognize everyone except Mike Trumble, does anyone know anything about him?
P.S. Where's Bucky?
Thanks, John
Posted By: SSDAcuda
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/05/08 12:50 AM
Bucky is Putting his new car together!
I can't believe Senior is going to run Jr first round.
I can't believe Senior is going to run Jr first round.
Posted By: YbNoRmAL
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/05/08 02:00 PM
I don't have any idea who's car Mike Trumble is racing, but he is another Chevy guy. He has won National events in Superstock, and Comp. Seems like he even drove Dick Shermans Pro Stocker about 6 or 7 years ago.
Posted By: moderncylinder
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/05/08 02:02 PM
trumble is driving jim hale's car,, the one that hopkins ran last year.
and bucky is building a new car with his old, current motors. he has the quickest run ever,, an 8.43
jeff
and bucky is building a new car with his old, current motors. he has the quickest run ever,, an 8.43
jeff
Posted By: YbNoRmAL
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/05/08 02:22 PM
Thanks for that info, Jeff. Trumble is a good driver. Bucky's 8.43, what can you say, WOW . Will you be at Indy next week?
. Will you be at Indy next week?
Posted By: 340Cuda
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/05/08 02:25 PM
Surprised not to see Fred Henson there.
Posted By: moderncylinder
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/05/08 03:29 PM
yes, i believe ill be at indy next week. this is like third hand info, but i believe fred could not get his competition license renewed due to a few minor health issues and has to wait a few before going back to resubmit it. i havent spoke to fred so i dont really know, but thats what i heard.
jeff
jeff
Posted By: cudarex
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/05/08 08:14 PM
Posted By: willp
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/05/08 10:51 PM
Looks like Julie was right about them boys from the vegas race going to be in the .50's. Several in the 8.50+ range first round being put on the board at Belle Rose. Second round should be really good.
Posted By: Hemi_Jack
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/05/08 11:04 PM
Here's a link to the times.
http://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCStory.asp?ID=154955#indextop
http://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCStory.asp?ID=154955#indextop
Posted By: nitrojoe
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/06/08 01:00 AM
Charlie Jr over Raines in finals as Raines red lights it away again.
Raines beat Pancake in semis
Thats 2 for 2 for who ever is keeping count.
Now I have to write a Mopar Max story, later.
Raines beat Pancake in semis
Thats 2 for 2 for who ever is keeping count.
Now I have to write a Mopar Max story, later.
Posted By: HEMI472
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/06/08 03:28 AM
way to go war fish looks like he is still the man to beat and he still has time to goof arond on here
looks like he is still the man to beat and he still has time to goof arond on here
Posted By: warfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/06/08 03:39 AM
Quote:
way to go war fish
thanks to my 2 supporters on this board, the quickest side by side run ever, 51 @ 155 to 53 @ 154. I only had a 1.19 60 ft. and by the way the national record is not factored anymore, I have it now @ 8.51.
that makes 5 wins in a row for us, and 2 number one qualifiers in a row for rains. Things are looking up for WARHEADS and my motors.
later
cw
Posted By: HEMI472
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/06/08 03:45 AM
i didnt know about the record but that even makes it better
but that even makes it better
Posted By: mr_340
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/06/08 03:59 AM
Congratulations to CW and the Warfish/Warhead team for the win and setting a new record. Did the CNC intake pickup performance over the old sheetmetal designs?
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/06/08 05:22 AM
Quote:Quote:
way to go war fish
thanks to my 2 supporters on this board, the quickest side by side run ever, 51 @ 155 to 53 @ 154. I only had a 1.19 60 ft. and by the way the national record is not factored anymore, I have it now @ 8.51.
that makes 5 wins in a row for us, and 2 number one qualifiers in a row for rains. Things are looking up for WARHEADS and my motors.
later
cw
well even the sun shines on a dogs as-s from time to time.
Congrates on your streek
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/06/08 07:09 AM
way to go Charlie thats impressive 8.51, and glad its not factored
Casey
thats impressive 8.51, and glad its not factoredCasey
Posted By: Billet426
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/06/08 11:55 AM
Way to go Jr...
11 car field
2 bye's
1 redlight...
You are the man....
11 car field
2 bye's
1 redlight...
You are the man....
Posted By: warfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/06/08 12:09 PM
Quote:
Way to go Jr...
You are the man....
glad to see you are coming around.
cw
Posted By: sshemifan
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/06/08 01:02 PM
Congrats, Charlie on the win & the record, I especially liked the back to back 8.51's!!!Regards, John
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/06/08 01:24 PM
The Wescott cars are flying!
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/06/08 02:18 PM
i agree it is very impressive performance.
but the guy being the TOOL he is with his character just sucks in this sport.
but the guy being the TOOL he is with his character just sucks in this sport.
Posted By: LO23
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/06/08 02:48 PM
great job warfish! thats flying!
thanks to all that build'em and race'em!
thats flying! thanks to all that build'em and race'em!
Posted By: Anonymous
Post deleted by moparts - 04/06/08 04:11 PM
Posted By: 11secdart
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/06/08 04:58 PM
Congrats CW Jr on the win and record!!!
Posted By: warfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/06/08 07:11 PM
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Congrats on the Record and the win charlie
Some people talk the talk and some walk the walk you do both
Don't listen to all the thin skin strokers around here! This thread was a bore untill you came around. Now whats racing without a rivalry and some smacktalk?
Warfish SS/AH Record Holder
it hasnt bothered me all these years, it wont start now. I think duster, and billet ride the MCH short bus.
later
cw
Posted By: moderncylinder
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/06/08 08:05 PM
congrats on the record charlie,,,, see you in indy if youre there.
jeff
jeff
Posted By: Ben Holt
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/06/08 08:56 PM
I didn't think you could set the record at national events???
Posted By: Ben Holt
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/06/08 09:03 PM
Besides that, congrats on your win Charlie. All of your customers sure put on a good show, and that final was worth the price of admission for sure.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/06/08 09:04 PM
that wasnt a national event.It was a jegs sportsmans allstar thing i think
Posted By: Ben Holt
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/06/08 10:33 PM
No, it was a national event. It is called the SPORTSNationals, and they are national events for Sportsman categories only. The payout and contingencies are just like as if they were at a national without all the pros. Trust me, I was there I gave all my speed secrets to Charlie, that's how he won I just thought in order to get a record you had to A)declare you were going for it, and B) it could only be done at divisionals/opens. Not knocking the runs..like I said, Charlie, congrats on the win and the runs, but I wouldn't think they would give it to you there.
I just thought in order to get a record you had to A)declare you were going for it, and B) it could only be done at divisionals/opens. Not knocking the runs..like I said, Charlie, congrats on the win and the runs, but I wouldn't think they would give it to you there.
Posted By: B G Racing
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/06/08 10:36 PM
Now this is the kind off stuff I like hearing here!!! Congraulations Charlie!!!!!
Posted By: dragonfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/06/08 11:09 PM
NEW SS/AH SLOT CAR PIC--- LARRY WOO vs. HARRY HOLTON
Posted By: dragonfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/06/08 11:11 PM
ANOTHER SHOT
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/06/08 11:12 PM
Even if you aren't a fan of CW's you have to give him credit they are running good. It would be nice if everybody got along without cutting each other up.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/06/08 11:13 PM
sorry Ben i didnt think the sportsnationals was really a national.
Did he have the (R) on the window?
Did he have the (R) on the window?
Posted By: B Dartman
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/06/08 11:39 PM
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/06/08 11:41 PM
Congrats Charlie.Tell me you're going after Sounds like a challenge.Good luck Jeff.....Bucky
Sounds like a challenge.Good luck Jeff.....Bucky
Posted By: cudadoug
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/07/08 12:42 AM
What a great day at the races! 5th straight event win, taking the record from your engine customer and beating him in the final!!
That Motorhome has to be a happy place on the way home!! CONGRATS!!
That Motorhome has to be a happy place on the way home!! CONGRATS!!
Posted By: B G Racing
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/07/08 01:01 AM
Quote:I like to give credit to anyone who deserves it. And I don't have a problem with anyone busting stones when they deserve it.But alot of people see a shot to use it and jump on the bandwagon even if they haven't a clue I have no problem if Jeff and Charlie want to duke it out.It's when you do it on a site without the facts from both sides,people assume a lot.Then the
Even if you aren't a fan of CW's you have to give him credit they are running good. It would be nice if everybody got along without cutting each other up.
and the 
starts and everyone looks bad.If Charlie is POed at Jeff for trying to take credit for his sucess,say so and if Jeff is POed at for not giving him credit then say so.If either is A fruit(gay) then lets here that to.Not that it makes much difference,I respect them both for what the have accomplished.If it's no ones business then keep it between them or between their inner circles.I would like to look upon great racers,engine builder,developers,with admiration and be envious in a good way(wish I was like them)Fame is fleeting,the type of person you are will last forever in peoples minds. I'am a fan of anyone that runs a Hemi
Posted By: REHBERGERRACING
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/07/08 02:04 AM
Quote:
Congrats on the Record and the win charlie
Some people talk the talk and some walk the walk you do both
Don't listen to all the thin skin strokers around here! This thread was a bore untill you came around. Now whats racing without a rivalry and some smacktalk?
Warfish SS/AH Record Holder
I could not have said it better myself! Congrats Charlie.
Posted By: J_BODY
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/07/08 02:34 AM
So in trying to follow this:
= Jeff @ MCH
= Bucky
which one is CW???
= Jeff @ MCH = Buckywhich one is CW???
Posted By: hemi-itis
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/07/08 02:50 AM
Congrats there CW,that was ahell of a race!!
Posted By: cudadoug
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/07/08 04:27 AM
Quote:
So in trying to follow this:
which one is CW???
Right now, I'd call him a hemi HP
Or he could be this
Actually he should be this
Posted By: 68Fastback
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/07/08 05:05 AM
Man I miss having Mike O'Malley around to get the straight scoop on these cars without all the foo foo and drama queens or whatever. 
Posted By: mr_340
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/07/08 01:03 PM
Quote:
Man I miss having Mike O'Malley around to get the straight scoop on these cars without all the foo foo and drama queens or whatever.
Posted By: warfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/07/08 01:10 PM
Quote:
Congrats Charlie.Tell me you're going after
we may go, I will probably put my other rental motor in. I dont have time to put my race piece back together, get both cars preped, etc. So the motor I will be running is for sale, as is my car. as far as the record, they told me at the scales I set it, I dont really care that much about it, if I hadnt won, I wouldnt have bothered to tear down to take it. Records are not always a true indication of who is fastest, althouh this weekend it was since the fastest cars were there, with the exception of henson. It doesnt prove anything to drive all over the country, chasing conditions at 4.00 a gallon for fuel, to make a fast run, when noone else fast is there, and get a piece of paper. This was true race conditions, everyone was on kill, and there should be no excuses for why they could have set it if they would have done.......
I wonder what the future of this class holds when 75% of the field is down 50hp, and the rest are down 100 from what we're making. If half the people that talked to me in the last 2 weeks actually buy something, than the class will continue to get more competitive.
later
and before anyone asks, the used motor I will be running is 55K
cw
Posted By: JC Childress
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/07/08 03:54 PM
Congrats Charlie ! Thats an awesome job man. Ya'll are flying and I'm tickled to death for ya'll. Keep up the good work.
Posted By: YbNoRmAL
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/07/08 06:16 PM
Quote:I agree. He is missed. Yea, Charlie it looks like you have gained a few more supporters this week that seemed like they weren't so supportive last week.
Man I miss having Mike O'Malley around to get the straight scoop on these cars without all the foo foo and drama queens or whatever.
Posted By: B G Racing
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/07/08 06:30 PM
We are all proud of Charlie's accomplishments,we just need Charlie to to polish off those rough edges and be the class act the we know he can be.We want to be able to say we respect him not just for his accomplishments but also for the person that he can be.I get a laugh from some of his remarks but when it's done at anothers expence it loses it's humor real quick.I take a lot of ribbing on the site and dish out a lot,all in good humor.Not that I won't let some one know when they cross the line like Mr Bill Dewing Did.
Posted By: StewartP
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/07/08 06:53 PM
BG is trolling again :-)
Posted By: B G Racing
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/07/08 07:15 PM
Quote:Got that right,trolling for crap eating bottom feeders(suckers)
BG is trolling again :-)
Posted By: Defbob
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/07/08 10:21 PM
Quote:
So in trying to follow this:
which one is CW???
Posted By: warfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/08/08 12:03 AM
Quote:
We are all proud of Charlie's accomplishments,we just need Charlie to to polish off those rough edges and be the class act the we know he can be.We want to be able to say we respect him not just for his accomplishments but also for the person that he can be.I get a laugh from some of his remarks but when it's done at anothers expence it loses it's humor real quick.I take a lot of ribbing on the site and dish out a lot,all in good humor.Not that I won't let some one know when they cross the line like Mr Bill Dewing Did.
whether or not you or anyone else thinks I am a class act is not going to change my life. What the people on this board that have never even met me dont know is I have a good sence of humor, and like stirring it up like anyone does. Stewart P thought I was a jerk till he actually met me at G-ville last year. I'm sorry but if you cant find a little humor in the mch short bus, I am missing something. everyone that knows me thought it was funny. Woo made it his screen saver!!
later
cw
Posted By: StewartP
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/08/08 12:37 AM
CW is right, I did think he was a jerk, until I met him last year. He is a very hard working racer, now does that mean that I want him to marry my sister ??? I don't think I would wish that on anyone, my sister that is
StewartP
StewartP
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/08/08 02:30 AM
Charlie, typical of a net-forum, but this crowds tough! 
...I can tell you first hand I personally know jr and his dad, some of you thin skinned cats should be so lucky that SR dosen't type so fast if you think jr is quick whitted...meet his dad sometime, proud to be a friend.
...I can tell you first hand I personally know jr and his dad, some of you thin skinned cats should be so lucky that SR dosen't type so fast if you think jr is quick whitted...meet his dad sometime, proud to be a friend.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/08/08 02:34 AM
StewartP.. post a picture of your sister, we'll decide her qualities
Posted By: HEMI472
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/08/08 03:39 AM
dont worry cw i liked the joke about the bus and the . you know the best part is the are both yellow
. you know the best part is the are both yellow
Posted By: 68Fastback
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/08/08 06:23 AM
So does anyone know a car count for Indy yet.
Posted By: warfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/08/08 11:33 AM
Posted By: StewartP
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/08/08 11:50 AM
Ranger, this is a photo of my sister before she made the top 10 in the Krispy Kreme calendar
Posted By: StewartP
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/08/08 11:56 AM
and today --
Posted By: JC Childress
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/08/08 12:51 PM
Cool site Charlie. I enjoyed looking thru it. I can appreciate ya'lls dedication to making these Hemis better and better. My hats off to you and your dad.
Stewart - you made me lose my appetite with that last pic ......
Stewart - you made me lose my appetite with that last pic ......
Posted By: warfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/08/08 01:25 PM
I agree 100%. I was in Vegas last weekend making license passes with my car. In fact, I was in the same row as all of the SS/AH cars. I walked by Westcotts pit to see if he was some big dude that could back up all of the drivel that he spews on the internet. When I saw him in person, I just had to laugh and consider the immense amount of ignorance and/or stupidity as the source of his motivation. I am really hoping for a response from him to prove my point.
I just saw this post when I went back to see if the bus was still on here, I think I backed it up.
are you the one I saw making singles there? did you win anything? will you ever?
later
cw
Posted By: ro23car
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/08/08 02:11 PM
Quote:
I agree 100%. I was in Vegas last weekend making license passes with my car. In fact, I was in the same row as all of the SS/AH cars. I walked by Westcotts pit to see if he was some big dude that could back up all of the drivel that he spews on the internet. When I saw him in person, I just had to laugh and consider the immense amount of ignorance and/or stupidity as the source of his motivation. I am really hoping for a response from him to prove my point.
I just saw this post when I went back to see if the bus was still on here, I think I backed it up.
are you the one I saw making singles there? did you win anything? will you ever?
later
cw
winnig things doesnt make up for a crappy personality
Posted By: JC Childress
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/08/08 03:58 PM
I am curious: of all the people that get on here and complain about CW's personality, how many have met him in person ? Very few I imagine.
So he gets on here and cuts up and carry's on. Big freaking deal ! If ya'll hate it so dang much, then why do you even get on here ? Hes having some fun and hasnt hurt a soul ! My God, lighten up a lil !
They didnt have computers in the sixties, but do you think Ronnie, Dandy Dick, Grumpy and Dyno Don never cut up and talked some smack ? I know they did. Its competition and thats how its always been. The computer just makes it so that everyone can see it.
If I won the lottery tonight, I can tell you one thing, I know where I'd be getting me a Hemi from, and I wouldnt give a durn about what ya'll thought of his personality ! He and his dad have the goal of being the fastest and staying the fastest. Its not a popularity contest, it RACING !
So he gets on here and cuts up and carry's on. Big freaking deal ! If ya'll hate it so dang much, then why do you even get on here ? Hes having some fun and hasnt hurt a soul ! My God, lighten up a lil !
They didnt have computers in the sixties, but do you think Ronnie, Dandy Dick, Grumpy and Dyno Don never cut up and talked some smack ? I know they did. Its competition and thats how its always been. The computer just makes it so that everyone can see it.
If I won the lottery tonight, I can tell you one thing, I know where I'd be getting me a Hemi from, and I wouldnt give a durn about what ya'll thought of his personality ! He and his dad have the goal of being the fastest and staying the fastest. Its not a popularity contest, it RACING !
Posted By: ro23car
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/08/08 04:40 PM
Quote:
I am curious: of all the people that get on here and complain about CW's personality, how many have met him in person ? Very few I imagine.
So he gets on here and cuts up and carry's on. Big freaking deal ! If ya'll hate it so dang much, then why do you even get on here ? Hes having some fun and hasnt hurt a soul ! My God, lighten up a lil !
They didnt have computers in the sixties, but do you think Ronnie, Dandy Dick, Grumpy and Dyno Don never cut up and talked some smack ? I know they did. Its competition and thats how its always been. The computer just makes it so that everyone can see it.
If I won the lottery tonight, I can tell you one thing, I know where I'd be getting me a Hemi from, and I wouldnt give a durn about what ya'll thought of his personality ! He and his dad have the goal of being the fastest and staying the fastest. Its not a popularity contest, it RACING ! [/quote yup its racing not raggin and everyone is entitled to their own opinion
Posted By: warfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/08/08 05:23 PM
you need to cut ro23 some slack, he rides the short bus too. you are right about the people that have never met me, the stroke that was at vegas was the one who wanted to match race me with his 800 inch wedge, now since he walked past my pit area he is an expert on my life. I think maybe we need a full size bus. I wonder how someone thought they were gonna race anyone when they apparantly dont even have a licence.
cw
cw
Posted By: cudadoug
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/08/08 05:50 PM
Quote:
you need to cut ro23 some slack, he rides the short bus too. you are right about the people that have never met me, the stroke that was at vegas was the one who wanted to match race me with his 800 inch wedge, now since he walked past my pit area he is an expert on my life. I think maybe we need a full size bus. I wonder how someone thought they were gonna race anyone when they apparantly dont even have a licence.
cw
I guess you were supposed to match race to the 60' clocks, then to 1/2 track, then to 1000'
Posted By: 69_6bbl_Runner
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/08/08 05:51 PM
Quote:Quote:
...we just need Charlie to to polish off those rough edges and be the class act the we know he can be....
whether or not you or anyone else thinks I am a class act is not going to change my life....
later
cw
uh oh, cw, do you know who you just dis'd....it's one of the most well respected members of this computer board I hear...you may want to reconsider your position, sounds like he is disappointed in you...
Posted By: ro23car
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/08/08 06:23 PM
Quote:hey cuck oops chuck i ride the bus you and your cronnies words dont bother me hell sometime they let me drive the bus instaed of my truck but you will still have you crappy personalilty chuck lol your a hoot for a human being
you need to cut ro23 some slack, he rides the short bus too. you are right about the people that have never met me, the stroke that was at vegas was the one who wanted to match race me with his 800 inch wedge, now since he walked past my pit area he is an expert on my life. I think maybe we need a full size bus. I wonder how someone thought they were gonna race anyone when they apparantly dont even have a licence.
cw
Posted By: B G Racing
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/08/08 06:24 PM
Quote:Bill Dewing,Charlie doesn't disturb me at all.I have the utmost respect for him and his dad.They have accomplished much.I met Charlie once,very breifly.He is on top (what is there not to respect)I don't mind him busting stones I have said that I do it every now and then,usually with humor,unless someone like you(Bill Dewing)crosses the line.Which you did when you brought my late son Curt's name into your rantings of a nutball.Matter of fact the post was like Steward said I was trolling for a crap eating bottom feeder(sucker) and you took the bait.You again have crawled out from under the snakes belly,where you were hiding.If your smart you will crawl back under the original rock from whence you were concieved.You are the worm that I thought you are and most worms are a-sexual.So go right back to doing to yourself what your good at.Since you want to poke the Bear,tell Fred that I will take the gloves off and we will bare fist it from now on.Fred will be proud of you. This is just a little tidbit for you,only the beginning,If you could only stand on your two feet like a man then we can hash it out like men,but since you are realigated to just crawling on your belly I have to deal with you like the worm you are.Charlie,how'ed I do?Can I hang with you,Quote:Quote:
...we just need Charlie to to polish off those rough edges and be the class act the we know he can be....
whether or not you or anyone else thinks I am a class act is not going to change my life....
later
cw
uh oh, cw, do you know who you just dis'd....it's one of the most well respected members of this computer board I hear...you may want to reconsider your position, sounds like he is disappointed in you...
and Respect to all(except the worm)Can we get an icon of a worm don't want to demean snakes(since he's lower than one)
Posted By: 69_6bbl_Runner
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/08/08 06:32 PM
Quote:Quote:Bill Dewing,Charlie doesn't disturb me at all.I have the utmost respect for him and his dad.They have accomplished much.I met Charlie once,very breifly.He is on top (what is there not to respect)I don't mind him busting stones I have said that I do it every now and then,usually with humor,unless someone like you(Bill Dewing)crosses the line.Which you did when you brought my late son Curt's name into your rantings of a nutball.Matter of fact the post was like Steward said I was trolling for a crap eating bottom feeder(sucker) and you took the bait.You again have crawled out from under the snakes belly,where you were hiding.If your smart you will crawl back under the original rock from whence you were concieved.You are the worm that I thought you are and most worms are a-sexual.So go right back to doing to yourself what your good at.Since you want to poke the Bear,tell Fred that I will take the gloves off and we will bare fist it from now on.Fred will be proud of you. This is just a little tidbit for you,only the beginning,If you could only stand on your two feet like a man then we can hash it out like men,but since you are realigated to just crawling on your belly I have to deal with you like the worm you are.Charlie,how'ed I do?Can I hang with you,Quote:Quote:
...we just need Charlie to to polish off those rough edges and be the class act the we know he can be....
whether or not you or anyone else thinks I am a class act is not going to change my life....
later
cw
uh oh, cw, do you know who you just dis'd....it's one of the most well respected members of this computer board I hear...you may want to reconsider your position, sounds like he is disappointed in you...
huh...looks like it only took a few minutes for me to get a bite,
hehehe.....talk about rantings of a nutball...I know what got you all riled up and incoherent today...I forgot to refer to you as "Bear" and "Shadow"....sorry Bear/Shadow...
Posted By: Anonymous
Post deleted by Defbob - 04/08/08 06:33 PM
Posted By: ro23car
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/08/08 06:35 PM
bare knuckles now there is a way to settle things like the old days
Posted By: 68Fastback
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/08/08 07:00 PM
Well looks like this will be the third of these threads to get the axe. Nice website Charlie and continued success, maybe you can add space on your site for a forum like this and we all can visit it. Ohh yeah I thought it was you who said you would build a 800 inch motor and race Greg Anderson instead of Chris's 542 B1 at Vegas. Either way good deal you are making HP for your customers and yourself.
Posted By: B G Racing
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/08/08 07:01 PM
huh...looks like it only took a few minutes for me to get a bite,
hehehe.....talk about rantings of a nutball...I know what got you all riled up and incoherent today...I forgot to refer to you as "Bear" and "Shadow"....sorry Bear/Shadow... Bill Dewing(Ivory Soap)You don't really think your that smart do you?We were trolling for you quite a few post back.Go back and read if you can.If anyone took the bait it's you,your an easy catch.With all the problems that Fred Engenhart has,having you for a friend is his biggest one.Tell Fred what ever happens from here is on you. Charlie,sorry Bill Dewing had to come and steal the attention of your accomplishment.He needs to be the center of attention.I don't think his mother loved him enough so he was bottle fed from the git go.
Posted By: 69_6bbl_Runner
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/08/08 07:06 PM
Quote:Bill Dewing(Ivory Soap)You don't really think your that smart do you?We were trolling for you quite a few post back.Go back and read if you can.If anyone took the bait it's you,your an easy catch.With all the problems that Fred Engenhart has,having you for a friend is his biggest one.Tell Fred what ever happens from here is on you. Charlie,sorry Bill Dewing had to come and steal the attention of your accomplishment.He needs to be the center of attention.I don't think his mother loved him enough so he was bottle fed from the git go.
huh...looks like it only took a few minutes for me to get a bite,
So now you're bringing my Mother into it....who's the worm now Bear/Shadow...
Posted By: B G Racing
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/08/08 07:20 PM
Quote:Quote:Bill Dewing(Ivory Soap)You don't really think your that smart do you?We were trolling for you quite a few post back.Go back and read if you can.If anyone took the bait it's you,your an easy catch.With all the problems that Fred Engenhart has,having you for a friend is his biggest one.Tell Fred what ever happens from here is on you. Charlie,sorry Bill Dewing had to come and steal the attention of your accomplishment.He needs to be the center of attention.I don't think his mother loved him enough so he was bottle fed from the git go.
huh...looks like it only took a few minutes for me to get a bite,
So now you're bringing my Mother into it....who's the worm now Bear/Shadow...
The worm is still you.Like they say if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck,then it's a duck.In your case,if it crawls on it's belly it could be a snake, but snakes mate so you must be a worm cause you are always doing yourself.
You should start your own thread and not screw up the SS/AH one. Go ahead I'll be right behind you.You can call it,The Worm Is Back
Posted By: 69_6bbl_Runner
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/08/08 07:31 PM
Quote:
The worm is still you.Like they say if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck,then it's a duck.In your case,if it crawls on it's belly it could be a snake, but snakes mate so you must be a worm cause you are always doing yourself.
Have you considered counseling ?
Posted By: Anonymous
Post deleted by Defbob - 04/08/08 07:55 PM
Posted By: B G Racing
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/08/08 09:19 PM
Hemi Fred,Bill Dewing is bringing his garbage to a great thread for all the SS/AH info.I will not respond to him anymore here,he will only succeed in screwing a good informative thread or get it banned.I post another thread if he wants dance with me.It is the one about the guy(Bill Dewing) who insulted the memory of Curt.He can go there and rant and leave this good thread for all to enjoy.
Posted By: Anonymous
Post deleted by Defbob - 04/08/08 09:53 PM
Posted By: badwej
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/09/08 10:31 PM
Your not going to phone are Mom's are you
Posted By: cgall
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/10/08 12:04 AM
Back to topic. Nice pic of J. Allen Sherman at the Cajun's.
http://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCPhoto.asp?ID=154894&Filter=100#indextop
http://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCPhoto.asp?ID=154894&Filter=100#indextop
Posted By: YbNoRmAL
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/10/08 12:28 AM
Quote:Hey Dragonfish. Could we see a nice shot of the chassis on your SS/AH slots? Beeauteeeful.
NEW SS/AH SLOT CAR PIC--- LARRY WOO vs. HARRY HOLTON
Posted By: Anonymous
Post deleted by Defbob - 04/10/08 03:19 AM
Posted By: sixpackbee
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/10/08 01:06 PM
I need some info on Joey Wilkes car. If anyone knows the car PM me. Thanks.
Posted By: B G Racing
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/10/08 01:18 PM
Quote:Talked to Grant last night,and made a few calls.I was going to call him back.Tell Grant to pass on it.
I need some info on Joey Wilkes car. If anyone knows the car PM me. Thanks.
Posted By: warfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/10/08 01:39 PM
Quote:
I need some info on Joey Wilkes car. If anyone knows the car PM me. Thanks.
its a good car, with a cheap price. you should buy it. his # is 740 454 8208
read the last line of this article
http://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCStory.asp?ID=155263
Posted By: sixpackbee
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/10/08 01:58 PM
Quote:
Talked to Grant last night,and made a few calls.I was going to call him back.Tell Grant to pass on it.
Bob, I'll send the message along.
Posted By: 69_6bbl_Runner
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/10/08 02:38 PM
hmmm, one guys says buy it, the other says to pass on it......I wonder who's opinion I would take......yup that sure is a tough one... ...especially after reading the last line of that article...
...yup that sure is a tough one... ...especially after reading the last line of that article...
Posted By: YbNoRmAL
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/10/08 04:16 PM
It's a Mandella car. It's probably a pretty dog gone nice car. All the Wilkes' car are top shelf stuff. It's turn key, don't know who does their motors. That's just my and I'm nobody.
and I'm nobody.
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/10/08 05:11 PM
It's a steal at that price.Trust me I know.He had his own engine program and possibly if the right guy bought the car the guy would continue. BuckyHows doin?
BuckyHows doin?
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/10/08 10:29 PM
anyone have a picture of joey wilkes car, what kind of numbers is he asking for it?
Posted By: dragonfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/10/08 11:37 PM
The chassis on the left is the (wide chassis) HARRY HOLTON car, on the right the (narrow chassis) LARRY WOO car. They are basically the same guide flag support and motor box/upright assem. .050 spring steel, main rails .080 stainless steel tubing, 10/ 58 or 60 gear ratio w/ high speed ball bearings and a gun drilled rear axle.1 1/16th x .500 wide tires.
Posted By: SSDAcuda
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/11/08 12:51 AM
Quote:
anyone have a picture of joey wilkes car, what kind of numbers is he asking for it?
hemi cuda
$150,000.00
joey wilkes hemi cuda ss/ah its still for sale guys last time out at indy 07 no. 4 qual. went 8.74 first round e-mail if you have cash 150k jjcwilkes@yahoo.com or ph. 740-819-0291 thanks joey wilkes
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/11/08 12:56 AM
Quote:Quote:
anyone have a picture of joey wilkes car, what kind of numbers is he asking for it?
hemi cuda
$150,000.00
joey wilkes hemi cuda ss/ah its still for sale guys last time out at indy 07 no. 4 qual. went 8.74 first round e-mail if you have cash 150k jjcwilkes@yahoo.com or ph. 740-819-0291 thanks joey wilkes
any pictures, sounds like a nice car.
Posted By: Hemi_Jack
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/11/08 01:05 AM
Here's a pic at Indy 07
Posted By: Hemi_Jack
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/11/08 01:05 AM
One more
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/11/08 02:53 AM
yes my car is still for sale 140k running 5-runs on drive train last run indy 07 8.74 call me at 740-819-0291,740-454-8208or e-mail jjcwilkes@yahoo.com or better yet ask bucky hess how much it takes to built one like mine he knows this is a steal. hey bucky and charlie can you believe somebody said to pass on this car real brains ps only call if you have cash i get enough tire kickers in the car buss. thanks joey wilkes
Posted By: SealockRacing
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/11/08 03:30 AM
any insight on what size the rear tires are, and what front tires you SS/AH guys are running?
we have 15x33's under our 67, and some moroso 7.10x15's up front. i love the way the front tires fill the fenders up. if anyone knows about that kind of stuff, like cage, chassis, tire size, any of that, let me know, id like to build ours to resemble a SS/AH car, and run like one too haha.
another side question, would my 67 be legal, ever, or is this class for the '68 cars only? im guessing its for '68 cars, but, i could be wrong.
thanks
John Sealock
we have 15x33's under our 67, and some moroso 7.10x15's up front. i love the way the front tires fill the fenders up. if anyone knows about that kind of stuff, like cage, chassis, tire size, any of that, let me know, id like to build ours to resemble a SS/AH car, and run like one too haha.
another side question, would my 67 be legal, ever, or is this class for the '68 cars only? im guessing its for '68 cars, but, i could be wrong.
thanks
John Sealock
Posted By: dragonfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/11/08 12:58 PM
WILL THERE BE ANY SS/AH CARS AT THE SPRING OPEN AT MAPLE GROVE IN MAY???
Posted By: sshemifan
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/11/08 08:20 PM
Quote:
yes my car is still for sale 140k running 5-runs on drive train last run indy 07 8.74 call me at 740-819-0291,740-454-8208or e-mail jjcwilkes@yahoo.com or better yet ask bucky hess how much it takes to built one like mine he knows this is a steal. hey bucky and charlie can you believe somebody said to pass on this car real brains ps only call if you have cash i get enough tire kickers in the car buss. thanks joey wilkes
Wow, if I could only hit the lottery, I know what i'd buy!!!
Why did this thread lose it's stick pin?
John
Posted By: GOLDUST
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/11/08 11:11 PM
Al Smyth's Port-a-Tree car will be there,it's our first race this year.
Posted By: REHBERGERRACING
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/13/08 04:30 AM
Can this thread be put back to a "Sticky Topic"??
Please.........
Please.........
Posted By: Defbob
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/13/08 09:48 AM
Quote:
Al Smyth's Port-a-Tree car will be there,it's our first race this year.
divisional race?
Posted By: GOLDUST
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/13/08 04:22 PM
yes.
Posted By: dragonfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/13/08 05:05 PM
Do you mind if I snap some pics of the car at the spring open to make decals for a SS/AH slotcar project ??
Posted By: HEMI472
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/14/08 12:43 AM
Can this thread be put back to a "Sticky Topic"??
Please.........
Please.........
Posted By: GOLDUST
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/14/08 12:39 PM
Quote:Of course not!I'll even have a cold beer waiting for ya!
Do you mind if I snap some pics of the car at the spring open to make decals for a SS/AH slotcar project ??
Posted By: warfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/14/08 05:41 PM
Quote:
Al Smyth's Port-a-Tree car will be there,it's our first race this year.
did you ever get any steam?
cw
Posted By: GOLDUST
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/15/08 07:06 PM
Quote:Quote:
Al Smyth's Port-a-Tree car will be there,it's our first race this year.
did you ever get any steam?Not sure,haven't dynoed yet.
cw
Posted By: warfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/16/08 03:14 PM
Quote:Quote:Quote:
Al Smyth's Port-a-Tree car will be there,it's our first race this year.
did you ever get any steam?Not sure,haven't dynoed yet.
cw
wow they must be busy, I talked to you about 4 or 5 months ago.
later
cw
Posted By: ss/ah3480
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/20/08 03:18 PM
just curious ,what happened at indy charlie?
Posted By: warfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/20/08 04:03 PM
Quote:
just curious ,what happened at indy charlie?
I couldnt ever get it off the line, the first run it spun through 1st gear, 2nd and 3rd same story. I need to change the suspension setup to suit whats under the hood right now. dads car ran good. 62 @ 157.30 and 69 @ 157.15. we loaded it up after that. we will test soon now that its nice out.
I dont know what happened to marvel, I passed him on the way out saturday, didnt see him on the sheet. the sorcerer went an 80 something at 148. that was all that was there. I dont know where the rest of the Mi. hemi contingent was.
later
cw
Posted By: cgall
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/21/08 01:16 AM
Turck outran Warfish, I believe those are MCH parts on his car.
Go to dragracecentral for the actual times.
Go to dragracecentral for the actual times.
Posted By: moderncylinder
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/21/08 01:29 PM
no turk does not have anything from me on his but the oil pan,, we made that for him. charlie could post his speed, im sure he was faster than turk even if he spun the tires. if charlie sr went 157, jr should have run 154 with his good motor, i remember him saying that he was putting in his backup to run the points races or something like that, at 154 he would have been in the high 8.50's,, the last year charlie had my heads on his car that he won a shootout with was at indy in '06, he ran 8.58 at 154ish at 1500 d.a. which was a great run. houser outran ebveryone at indy last year in the hemi shootout with my heads on it, the only one that i thought could have beaten him was henson, who was fastest on wednesday but then he blew up his westcott engine which also had heads on it from me. houser ended up dominating the event, making the winner at indy the last 3 years an engine with my heads.
i didnt goto indy cause i have had a head/chest cold that is pretty good,, its lasted a week now. and i had a sleeve move in my engine so i had to pull it back apart and have to put a new sleeve in it.
jeff
i didnt goto indy cause i have had a head/chest cold that is pretty good,, its lasted a week now. and i had a sleeve move in my engine so i had to pull it back apart and have to put a new sleeve in it.
jeff
Posted By: B G Racing
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/21/08 01:59 PM
Thanks for the info.Good luck with your program.
Posted By: warfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/21/08 02:49 PM
just so everyone knows, not one of my engines, or my customers, that by the way have been #1 at both races so far, have anything on them from MCH. Jeff coudnt come cause he had a cold , where was keys?
My backup motor was good enough to go 50 something there, but it didnt. Jeff likes to compare weather station readings, a pet peave of mine. I like to compare real world results. I think the car that "dominated" indy was at vegas. If juggling D.A. readings is how you are going to build your business,we'll see you in the bankruptsy publications. Maybe you can charge admission to tour your power stables.
later
cw
, where was keys? My backup motor was good enough to go 50 something there, but it didnt. Jeff likes to compare weather station readings, a pet peave of mine. I like to compare real world results. I think the car that "dominated" indy was at vegas. If juggling D.A. readings is how you are going to build your business,we'll see you in the bankruptsy publications. Maybe you can charge admission to tour your power stables.
later
cw
Posted By: Billet426
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/21/08 04:44 PM
Quote:
If juggling D.A. readings is how you are going to build your business,we'll see you in the bankruptcy publications. Maybe you can charge admission to tour your power stables.
Well that didn't take long...
What a moron. Thanks for all the good info there jr 
Posted By: BADDART
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/21/08 05:50 PM
Hey CW why don't you find another place to spew your childish S&*# so the rest of us can enjoy this site.NO---REALLY! Later BD
Posted By: mr_340
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/22/08 02:23 AM
You can click on the offending morons name and then choose Ignore This Moron like I did. Now I don't have to look at useless drivel. Takes up less space in the thread too!
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/22/08 10:55 AM
On something better than all this bull. I seen Buckey's new ride and all I can say is WOW!
Posted By: 64ssmax
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/22/08 11:57 AM
Quote:
On something better than all this bull. I seen Buckey's new ride and all I can say is WOW!
PICS!!!!!!
Posted By: YbNoRmAL
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/22/08 12:56 PM
Looking forward to seeing Bucky's car, gotta be good looking. And 64ssmax, I love the picture of your car and the Lady.
Posted By: ssdart3360
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/22/08 09:46 PM
O.K. guys I've never posted here before. But I thought I should tell you Charlie bashers A quick story.--- I was strapped in with helmet on @lodrs @ Indy when something or the other happed in front of me and the track was temporarily shut down. I sat and wondered what I was going run thru. I saw Charlie and yelled him over,He then took the time to explain what was happening and spent a minute to talk. Seemed pretty human to me.
Bruce Gibson
Bruce Gibson
Posted By: 68Fastback
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/23/08 01:59 AM
Bruce I do not think in the beginning there were any such things as Charlie Bashers on here far from it. If you spend an hour and look back at the three of these threads that have been killed off you will see he was whole heartedly welcomed. But his internet personalities took over and all of a sudden he, Stella, Ranger, John Force, heck I could spend a few minutes and get more names from here and Maries board that only cropped up like YOU HAVE when the masses have spoken up about his verbal attacks. So I say the solution is simple, Charlie has a great website, add some space so all the fans and I admit to being a fan can go there and he can share his knowledge of how he see's things and leave this thread alone so it does not get killed off like the others. On Moparts we even have the top Mopar Pro Stock driver Allen Johnson stop by without all the drama, we look forward to that. So please lets just stay on subject about these cars or I am positive the powers that be will delete this thread, I know if it was me I would of tracked the IP addresses of all these NEW members and if they were the same person it would be a simple solution. Peace out.
Jesse Rivera
Jesse Rivera
Quote:
O.K. guys I've never posted here before. But I thought I should tell you Charlie bashers A quick story.--- I was strapped in with helmet on @lodrs @ Indy when something or the other happed in front of me and the track was temporarily shut down. I sat and wondered what I was going run thru. I saw Charlie and yelled him over,He then took the time to explain what was happening and spent a minute to talk. Seemed pretty human to me.
Bruce Gibson
Posted By: GOLDUST
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/23/08 02:26 AM
All of you guys complaining about C.W. NEED to get a sense of humor!Lighten up already!
Posted By: Billet426
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/23/08 12:20 PM
Sense of humor has got nothing to do with it. I would love to know just how many names on this thread come from the same computer...
Heres a oldy but a goodie. A lady with a lot of class
.
Heres a oldy but a goodie. A lady with a lot of class
.
Posted By: warfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/23/08 01:30 PM
This whole deal doesn't require this much attention. I say why dont you figure out who the IP #'s belong to, I can promise they arent mine, or anyone I put up to anything. why is it when someone has something nice to say about me, it is questioned, but a phony name like duster buster gets free rein to slam me. or he can go onto maries with fake names and start stuff. If all you guys think this somehow is going to throw me off kilter, think again. I find humor in all of it, and the amount of effort you guys put into arguing your point is amazing. Why is the same guys that hate me worship a guy who doesnt go to a race cause he has a "cold" when the real truth is he has NO POWER or USEFUL KNOWLEDGE about racing.
I can be done here, very easily. I have 4 new motors to build (cause I am such a loser) and really have better things to do that argue my point to haters.
later
cw
I can be done here, very easily. I have 4 new motors to build (cause I am such a loser) and really have better things to do that argue my point to haters.
later
cw
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/24/08 12:04 AM
My IP address won't be the same as CW's because he isn't me
Posted By: Stewart
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/24/08 03:14 AM
Charlie
You have more supporters on here than you think. We just don't jump to your aid because you and your car both seem to be able to defend yourselves.
You have more supporters on here than you think. We just don't jump to your aid because you and your car both seem to be able to defend yourselves.
Posted By: badwej
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/24/08 08:46 AM
CW is king
Posted By: YbNoRmAL
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/24/08 01:57 PM
Quote:I have to agree with Stewart
Charlie
You have more supporters on here than you think. We just don't jump to your aid because you and your car both seem to be able to defend yourselves.
. Division 3 Land of the Winners. Nice little write up and CW's smiling face in this weeks Dragster.
Posted By: JC Childress
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/24/08 03:06 PM
Very well said Stewart. I support CW 100% and Bucky is a friend of mine as well, and so are the Teutons. I think the SS/AH class is loaded with really good folks with very different personalities. If we were all alike it would sure would be boring.
One thing for sure...INDY should be awesome this year !
One thing for sure...INDY should be awesome this year !
Posted By: dragonfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/24/08 06:11 PM
2nd round qualifying at ATLANTA: WENDELL HOWES 8.834; MARK HOWES 8.896; BOB REED 9.018
Posted By: SSAAHemiFan
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/24/08 09:02 PM
GO BOB REED!!!
Posted By: YbNoRmAL
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/25/08 01:52 PM
Bob Reed, Great to see his name again in NHRA competion. Cool old dude. Me and him both got to the semi's at a points meet in Bowling Green, probably 20 years ago. We went to pick up our checks. We won 40 bucks each for the final 4 cars. And we was trying to figure what we could get into with all of our winnings, but we was in Bowling Green on a Sunday night and there wasn't anything to do, we figured we better just play it safe and call it a day. But I just remember how cool I thought he was. I saw him alot at division 2 races and he didn't know me from Adam, but I was a racer and a Mopar racer and I guess that was enough, he treated me like a friend. Maybe he liked me for my wonderful personality though.
Posted By: Billet426
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/25/08 02:19 PM
Yes Bob Reed. A customer just sent me a Utube video of him and ronnie making a run. Cant remember the date but a loong time ago. Nice
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/25/08 05:00 PM
Good to see "bullet" bob running again
Posted By: B G Racing
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/25/08 05:53 PM
Bob Reed,A man to be respected,He's an old fart that can bang gears with the best.I've met Bob quite a few times over the years and he's a hoot.It was a great honor for Curt and myself to have met and raced with Bob.At a MMCI meet at Quaker City,Ohio years ago Curt qualified #2 behind Bob in a all Hemi race,with his Challanger.I was a lowly#10 in my 65.Bob and Ronnie Sox came to PRP(Keystone) and put on a great show,even though Ronnie wasn't feeling well.
Posted By: StewartP
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/25/08 07:14 PM
Bullet Bob, a couple of months ago
Posted By: Hemi_Jack
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/25/08 07:45 PM
Pic of his car on dragracecentral today.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/25/08 09:39 PM
He'll take the time to talk to you like he's known you all his life. Cool dude for sure.
Posted By: B G Racing
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/25/08 09:52 PM
Quote:
He'll take the time to talk to you like he's known you all his life. Cool dude for sure.
He is a special kind of guy with a thousand stories that will make you laugh your azz off.He has certainly lived an interesting life and is very talanted for a man his age.He sure make you feel like your important to him.Both Curt and I shared great admiration for Bob.We used to get a kick out of the circle on his car with a line drawn through Bartons name,(No Barton Engine)
Posted By: GOLDUST
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/25/08 10:56 PM
Bob's a GREAT guy!Him,his girlfriend,and crew had us laughing are a$$s off till about 3 in the morning at e- town 2 year's ago,great people!
Posted By: warfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/26/08 12:34 AM
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/68-Hemi-Darts_156438.htm
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/68-Hemi-Dart-vs-68-Hemi-Barracuda_156434.htm
a couple videos from vegas that rains sent me today.
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/68-Hemi-Dart-vs-68-Hemi-Barracuda_156434.htm
a couple videos from vegas that rains sent me today.
Posted By: GOLDUST
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/26/08 02:40 AM
Quote:I've waited a few day's to respond to your b.s.First off;I am with the ss/ah 1960 car(port-a-tree).2nd,I find a lot of humor in what C.W.posts.3rd,If you are "calling out" people that are from the same i.p. address,check it out,it's easy to do.My profile is real,my first name(Jim),my last name(Lee) are real!....I just checked your profile,and your name is listed as Wally Parks!I thought you passed away last year!Another fraud!
Sense of humor has got nothing to do with it. I would love to know just how many names on this thread come from the same computer...
Heres a oldy but a goodie. A lady with a lot of class
.
Posted By: Billet426
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/26/08 11:52 AM
Well Mr. Jim Lee I see that you waited until Jr posted again for your response. So she must have talked you into it, or it took this long to come up with the courage.
If you find a lot of humor in constantly berating the good members here on Moparts...then you are a gutless coward also.
We are a community of Mopar lovers exchanging into and ideas. The rest are just self promoters. So when you mess with one then the rest stand up and put a stop to it.
As far as my name goes I am not here to promote my business. Fun...business...Fun...business...See how nice they are when you keep them separate?
I keep that separate. I apparently don't need the extra work. Also in your detective work did you notice I don't bash, or berate, or call names, or undercut my competition....Go ahead look back...way back...you wont find any. You also wont find any reference to any of the products I make, or services we provide...none.
Just standing up for fellow members.
If you don't like that then there are many other boards that might welcome you, don't know...don't care.
Oh by the way Jim...have a nice day, and good luck with your products
If you find a lot of humor in constantly berating the good members here on Moparts...then you are a gutless coward also.
We are a community of Mopar lovers exchanging into and ideas. The rest are just self promoters. So when you mess with one then the rest stand up and put a stop to it.
As far as my name goes I am not here to promote my business. Fun...business...Fun...business...See how nice they are when you keep them separate?
I keep that separate. I apparently don't need the extra work. Also in your detective work did you notice I don't bash, or berate, or call names, or undercut my competition....Go ahead look back...way back...you wont find any. You also wont find any reference to any of the products I make, or services we provide...none.
Just standing up for fellow members.
If you don't like that then there are many other boards that might welcome you, don't know...don't care.
Oh by the way Jim...have a nice day, and good luck with your products
Posted By: SSDAcuda
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/26/08 12:27 PM
Could we please keep this post about the Hemi cars and end the bickering before this thread gets locked.
I have personally met Charlie and was a very humble guy at the track. His cars do the talking...
I have dealt with Jeff and his work is very professional and I respect his devotion to the Hemi and taking the cylinder head development to higher levels.
I take Charlies comments with a grain of salt, and found the "Bus" picture funny and not meant to hurt anyone.
I think the thing I found the funniest was that charlie was actually at the races between passes when he posted that Bus picture.
Just picture Jr getting out of his 'Cuda after a 8.50 pass, climb into his toter and cutting and pasting that photo of Jeff with a big smile on his face. Now thats the funny part.
As much as Charlie is obsessed with Jeff, I think it is all in good fun. Really Jeff should be flattered, as who is Charlie watching and looking for the most... He's praying Jeff fails at engine building!
Its actually a shame, because if Jeff and Charlie continued working TOGETHER, and Jeff concentrated 100% on his heads and charlie concentrated 100% on engine building/ horsepower, That is a combination legends are made of, Much like a SS/AH John Force and Austin Coil...
I have personally met Charlie and was a very humble guy at the track. His cars do the talking...
I have dealt with Jeff and his work is very professional and I respect his devotion to the Hemi and taking the cylinder head development to higher levels.
I take Charlies comments with a grain of salt, and found the "Bus" picture funny and not meant to hurt anyone.
I think the thing I found the funniest was that charlie was actually at the races between passes when he posted that Bus picture.
Just picture Jr getting out of his 'Cuda after a 8.50 pass, climb into his toter and cutting and pasting that photo of Jeff with a big smile on his face. Now thats the funny part.
As much as Charlie is obsessed with Jeff, I think it is all in good fun. Really Jeff should be flattered, as who is Charlie watching and looking for the most... He's praying Jeff fails at engine building!
Its actually a shame, because if Jeff and Charlie continued working TOGETHER, and Jeff concentrated 100% on his heads and charlie concentrated 100% on engine building/ horsepower, That is a combination legends are made of, Much like a SS/AH John Force and Austin Coil...
Posted By: Defbob
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/26/08 01:34 PM
Posted By: 11secdart
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/26/08 01:49 PM
I just saw on Drag Race Central that CW jr won second round in Super Comp in Atlanta is this a misprint or true? Is one of his Hemis in the car/dragster?
Posted By: warfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/26/08 02:41 PM
Quote:
I just saw on Drag Race Central that CW jr won second round in Super Comp in Atlanta is this a misprint or true? Is one of his Hemis in the car/dragster?
there are actually 3 charlie westcotts in nhra.
that guy goes by chuck westcott, I met him when I started racing. He now works at Goodridge, the fitting place.
so no I dont run super comp, I'll stop there.
cw
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/26/08 04:16 PM
Quote:
......As much as Charlie is obsessed with Jeff, I think it is all in good fun. Really Jeff should be flattered, as who is Charlie watching and looking for the most... He's praying Jeff fails at engine building!...........
I agree.......Why else would someone talk so much smack about someone???
Typically, when someone acts as Charlie does, he's got an inferiority complex and he's trying to get people to look at someone other than him.........that's why they try so hard to be good at what they do.......to make them feel better about themselves..... There's only one way to shut somebody up like that.............and that's to go out and outrun him........which would be great entertainment if it happened........
Having said all that, there's always drama and politics in any sport.........and it's hard to imagine that he'll be at the top forever......so there's only one way to go........
Posted By: warfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/26/08 05:01 PM
If you knew everything, you would see it as I do. here is an example of what I have to deal with.
this is how he promotes his business, with lies. and on maries now is some more of the crap they are stirring. And in the meantime one of his main supporters on this board blew the motor jeff just built him up at milan last night, in low gear, on the first run.
this was an email his P.R. guy sent one of my customers
Garry Kopera <gkopera340944@comcast.net> wrote:
Hey just a little insight on this article. Charlie takes Jeffs heads and sends them to Jessel where a Head Porter(M2) does the work. Charlie did not develop the port. CW’s customers are still running Jeff’s heads. When CW gets heads from Jeff they are not complete he orders them that way so he can do the valve job. One more thing he constantly berates Jeff but never runs a decal on the car. Who pays contingency with no decal? Would you pay anyone? Where are all the warheads that he pushes and on who’s cars? The stuff sold to Teuton was last year’s stuff and they ran about the same as with Jeff’s stuff. Little Joes car has problems and he is replacing it with Bucky’s car soon.CW has a hard on for Jeff and tries to discredit him constantly. Any questions ..Ask me how I know!..GK
this is how he promotes his business, with lies. and on maries now is some more of the crap they are stirring. And in the meantime one of his main supporters on this board blew the motor jeff just built him up at milan last night, in low gear, on the first run.
this was an email his P.R. guy sent one of my customers
Garry Kopera <gkopera340944@comcast.net> wrote:
Hey just a little insight on this article. Charlie takes Jeffs heads and sends them to Jessel where a Head Porter(M2) does the work. Charlie did not develop the port. CW’s customers are still running Jeff’s heads. When CW gets heads from Jeff they are not complete he orders them that way so he can do the valve job. One more thing he constantly berates Jeff but never runs a decal on the car. Who pays contingency with no decal? Would you pay anyone? Where are all the warheads that he pushes and on who’s cars? The stuff sold to Teuton was last year’s stuff and they ran about the same as with Jeff’s stuff. Little Joes car has problems and he is replacing it with Bucky’s car soon.CW has a hard on for Jeff and tries to discredit him constantly. Any questions ..Ask me how I know!..GK
Posted By: willp
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/26/08 08:40 PM
I saw were Bob Reed was DQed after his 1st round win at Atlanta. Tough break. Anyone know what happened?
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/26/08 10:08 PM
Wow........it's a shame that there's so much drama going on........By the way you slam Jeff, it's obvious that there's more going on than meets the eye........
I can only imagine if there were Chevy's and Ford's racing in that class......
I can only imagine if there were Chevy's and Ford's racing in that class......
Posted By: GOLDUST
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/27/08 02:09 AM
Quote:I didn't need to do ANY detective work,I just read this post,you have a nice day too there Wally.Get it!
Well Mr. Jim Lee I see that you waited until Jr posted again for your response. So she must have talked you into it, or it took this long to come up with the courage.
If you find a lot of humor in constantly berating the good members here on Moparts...then you are a gutless coward also.
We are a community of Mopar lovers exchanging into and ideas. The rest are just self promoters. So when you mess with one then the rest stand up and put a stop to it.
As far as my name goes I am not here to promote my business. Fun...business...Fun...business...See how nice they are when you keep them separate?
I keep that separate. I apparently don't need the extra work. Also in your detective work did you notice I don't bash, or berate, or call names, or undercut my competition....Go ahead look back...way back...you wont find any. You also wont find any reference to any of the products I make, or services we provide...none.
Just standing up for fellow members.
If you don't like that then there are many other boards that might welcome you, don't know...don't care.
Oh by the way Jim...have a nice day, and good luck with your products
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/27/08 04:22 AM
I have talked to Charlie several times and have always been treated well..We are all Mopar racers and I think the bashing back and forth makes us look like fools..I have two superstock cars a SS/BA 65'Coronet and a SS/EA 63'Savoy...Us Mopar guys have alot more expense to make our rides run so lets worry more about being the fastest than the biggest mouths...Let the cars do the talking...
Posted By: SealockRacing
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/27/08 05:25 AM
quick question for you AH guys.
do you all run tubes in your slicks, or are you all tubeless?
me and my dads friend were having a little disagreement on this topic, and he said the super stock guys wouldnt run them.
im hoping i was right when i said i bet they do!
John
do you all run tubes in your slicks, or are you all tubeless?
me and my dads friend were having a little disagreement on this topic, and he said the super stock guys wouldnt run them.
im hoping i was right when i said i bet they do!
John
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/27/08 08:01 AM
Tubeless, and alot of them run radials...Largest allowable size is 14Wx32x15....
Posted By: warfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/27/08 11:26 AM
Quote:
Tubeless, and alot of them run radials...Largest allowable size is 14Wx32x15....
actually its 14.5 x 33.0 15 rim, we need bigger ones, but they wont let us. and no tubes.
cw
Posted By: 11secdart
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/27/08 04:13 PM
Okay , now thats cleared up. I thought you where doing a Dan Fletcher and running your S/S car in a Super class. ( Joking).
Posted By: moderncylinder
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/27/08 07:39 PM
Quote:again the world according to charlie..... who cares how you see it,, or what you percieve what the truth is or was. garry is supporting me because ive known him since i was like 17 and he actually was my intro to alot of the chrysler super stock and bracket guys. he is and has been a long time friend of richard maskin among many other guys who have personalities, integrity, are honest, and have been racing since almost the beginning of time. garry sometimes doesnt get the whole deal and he isnt the only guy who keeps telling me you copied my heads,, i DONT care what you copied,, i sold you about 15 sets of ss hemi heads,, i gave you good service, you paid me,, thats it,, you went and changed thinsg around or started with a clean slate on your head,, i dont care what you did,, whatever it is though,, from our relationship in the 6 or 7 years that you called me "the brother you never had" in no way do i deserve to be berated, trashed, and verbally abused on the internet,, ive never sone anything to you,, if i have make us all aware of it. i dont need or never have taken any credit for how fast you are/were or any races that you have won. when it all comes down to it you have a fast race car and you won some races,, big deal,, that doesnt make you a saint. keep garry or any other of my friends out of this, i have no clue who posts on maries site and i wish they would stop it,, you dont need any fuel for your childish personality/sense of humor, lack of ethics, or inflated ego. whatever problem you have with me we will resolve when i see you,, if we dont resolve it then, it will be resolved the next time i see you ,, over and over and over till you let this go. i have no idea why you may be jealous of me, or feel that im a threat, or whatever is your driving force to propel this,, but it will end soon.
If you knew everything, you would see it as I do.
those of you that say you have met charlie and spoke with him for 5 minutes and he is a good guy,, you dont know the real charlie,, the guy who insults everyone he comes in contact with and belittles his friends behind their backs. you can respect him for having a fast race car, but other than that you know where the guy lies in the scheme of life,, on the bottom deserving no respect..
im going to ask something of all super stock/stock racers,, noone evers stands up to this guy,, he insults people,, businesses,, we need to start standing up for our friends and putting this guy in his place, speaking out to defend our friends with no regard to his childish comebacks or treatments. i know many raecrs at indy last year were congradulating the winner of the shootout and were overwhelmed with joy that charlie didnt win.
peace out,,,,, jeff kobylski............
p.s. charlie,,, im really done with all this, youve gone too far,, im not going to get suspended from nhra,, but i better never see you outside the gate of a race track.
Posted By: mr_340
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/27/08 10:59 PM
I wish Mopar would drop the big payouts for SS/AH and go back to racing for pride in the Hemi ranks. It would be apparent who the real Mopar racers really are.
Posted By: warfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/27/08 11:18 PM
sounds like you need to start drinking decaff.
as far as dealing with "the real charlie" I invite anyone to go talk to anyone who has ever done business with me, check my website if you dont know who, and ask them how I am. They wont say that I dont answer the phone, or that they have been waiting 5 months for heads that were gonna be done in 4 weeks. I could go on. I am sorry that things aren't as easy as they seem jeff, its alot easier to tell everyone what they are doing wrong, than it is to show them. Thats what seperates the men from the boys. Hope your cold is getting better.
cw
as far as dealing with "the real charlie" I invite anyone to go talk to anyone who has ever done business with me, check my website if you dont know who, and ask them how I am. They wont say that I dont answer the phone, or that they have been waiting 5 months for heads that were gonna be done in 4 weeks. I could go on. I am sorry that things aren't as easy as they seem jeff, its alot easier to tell everyone what they are doing wrong, than it is to show them. Thats what seperates the men from the boys. Hope your cold is getting better.
cw
Posted By: SealockRacing
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/27/08 11:40 PM
we used to have 14x32's on our 67, but went to 15x33's...they were free.
looks like i lost our little battle...
thanks guys.
John
looks like i lost our little battle...
thanks guys.
John
Posted By: StewartP
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/28/08 12:05 AM
I knew Ronnie Sox, Jake King, Dick Landy, and know Dave Christie, Ted Spehar, Tom Hoover,Dick Oldfield, and other "famous" Mopar Hemi SS builders and drivers. I know people are not always gonna get along, nor like each other, but let's try to not get personal about it. There are a lot of us that think this has gotten to the point where this thread has become a "pi--ing" contest. No matter what some people might think -- the people involved with the Hemi Shootouts, reflect on all of us that love those cars -- Chill out guys. Like the old axiom goes - "if you can not say something nice about someone, don't say anything at all"
My .02
StewartP
My .02
StewartP
Posted By: 69_6bbl_Runner
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/28/08 12:23 AM
Quote:
...-- Chill out guys. Like the old axiom goes - "if you can not say something nice about someone, don't say anything at all"
My .02
StewartP
Yes, and there is another that goes -"Do as I say and not as I do"-, so be sure and do as Stewart says , and not as he does...
Posted By: StewartP
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/28/08 01:44 AM
Bill Dewing: I would like this thread to survive, therefore I will not respond in kind to your comments, other than to say, there is a BIG difference between the Jeff and Charlie show, and the other scandal that you refer to.
StewartP
StewartP
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/28/08 02:10 AM
Quote:
I wish Mopar would drop the big payouts for SS/AH and go back to racing for pride in the Hemi ranks. It would be apparent who the real Mopar racers really are.
Payout has nothing to do with it....Those guys spend way more than what they can potentially make back.........
Posted By: warfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/28/08 03:04 AM
check out our new t-shirts on the website, just got them in. Jesel did the design work. they are really nice. will also have the spring changers for sale this week with a real picture soon. we will put the new stuff on the front page as it becomes available.
cw
cw
Posted By: moderncylinder
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/28/08 05:15 PM
well, noone has said it,, but back to what this thread is about.....
congrats to mark howes for his class win at atlanta,, though it was over his dad
jeff
congrats to mark howes for his class win at atlanta,, though it was over his dad
jeff
Posted By: mr_340
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/28/08 11:15 PM
Congrats to Canuck!
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/28/08 11:32 PM
Good going "Howes" from your freinds at tghe WV Hillbilly
Posted By: 8secDart
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/29/08 12:50 AM
Bullet had the wrong MSD box.We did not know the 31 box was a NO NO.It was a lot of my fault,and Bob has no clue on all the new computer sh$t.
Posted By: warfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/29/08 01:35 AM
we started my dads car up to load it for vegas, and it wouldnt go over 4000. I hooked up the laptop and it said TCD alert. It is a 7530T box, the one that had no TC capabilities (traction control). you have to leave the ign on for 24 hrs to reset it unless you are at a national event and nhra can do it for you. They had no explanation for why it got set off, said it happens sometimes at start up if it kicks back and gives a false trigger reading. keep that in mind. they told me I could buy some new box for 800.00 and it wouldnt do that.
cw
cw
Posted By: willp
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/29/08 01:49 AM
Thanks for the info 8secDart. Bummer. Hate to hear something like that happened. Glad to see that stick car out there though.
Posted By: Troublemaker427
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/29/08 01:37 PM
Quote:
Bullet had the wrong MSD box.We did not know the 31 box was a NO NO.It was a lot of my fault,and Bob has no clue on all the new computer sh$t.
Is this Bob's new car? I heard awhile back he was building a new car.
Posted By: YbNoRmAL
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/29/08 06:15 PM
Anybody have any good pics of Bucky's old car. The white with yellow flames. Nice spit and shine going on there.
Posted By: LO23
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/29/08 06:26 PM
one i have.
Posted By: crc
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/29/08 07:37 PM
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/30/08 03:30 AM
that cuda was our first best appearing ever.gainsville 2001.sucks darrell killed it with that purple.if you guys like that style of paint you'll love the new car.it smokes the old king cuda.spit and shine what we do...
Posted By: J_BODY
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/30/08 05:21 AM
How about posting picts of those spit shined beauties in the order you owned/painted them?
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/30/08 10:38 AM
That new car of Buckey's will be something to see. I have seen it and it is a beauty.
Posted By: Troublemaker427
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/30/08 11:02 AM
Quote:
That new car of Buckey's will be something to see. I have seen it and it is a beauty.
I'm really looking forward to seeing it. I heard it is going to be trick.
Posted By: YbNoRmAL
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/30/08 12:31 PM
Quote:That was an awesome car, beautiful. And I can't believe what it looks like now. Looking forward to seeing the new one. Are you guys able to do any work on the Flyer car?
that cuda was our first best appearing ever.gainsville 2001.sucks darrell killed it with that purple.if you guys like that style of paint you'll love the new car.it smokes the old king cuda.spit and shine what we do...
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/30/08 03:53 PM
Stopped on the 65 for now till we get the new car done.I did put a new engine plate in it plus installed a mid plate,I am putting the old van seats in it and the correct door pads beige.If you are a fan of early funny car paint jobs then you will love the new car.It is beautiful Travis did great.I am so proud
Posted By: island hemi
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/30/08 04:25 PM
Bucky Can you give any hints as to the colors like maybe just the base color? Thanks Chuck :help
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/30/08 05:12 PM
Top of car is kandy violet with kandy gold flames the sides are kandy red with scales and candy gold and orange lace alot of gold leaf.got to see to believe.Travis did awesome.By the way congrats to pizza Joe Miakia Best appearing at atlanta.Check it out on drag race central How ya doin
How ya doin
Posted By: mk_
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/30/08 06:00 PM
I can hardly wait to see it................Travis does beautiful work.
Posted By: island hemi
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/30/08 06:38 PM
I knew Joe's car would win best appearing the first time i saw it. Yours will blow them away great color choices
Posted By: warfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/02/08 12:06 PM
can we keep the dialouge going about shiny cars, its mezmorizing!
good article on DRC about the pizza guy, pretty cool.
cw
good article on DRC about the pizza guy, pretty cool.
cw
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/02/08 12:27 PM
Then Charlie your goin to love KK II
Posted By: warfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/02/08 01:37 PM
KK II ? c-mon, you can do better than that, thats like naming my dads car warfish 2
how bout Queen cuda, and put a pic of freddie mercury on the hood.
how bout bannana split? but be careful, or you will get threratened.
later
cw
how bout Queen cuda, and put a pic of freddie mercury on the hood.
how bout bannana split? but be careful, or you will get threratened.
later
cw
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/02/08 05:13 PM
I got it. How about K.Cuda Chaser?
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/02/08 05:15 PM
Aw shoot I can't take that you seem to already chose that.
Posted By: StewartP
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/02/08 05:17 PM
I hope all you SS/AH fans, owners, and drivers will make it to the ALL HEMI REUNION ??
http://www.allhemireunion.com/
StewartP
http://www.allhemireunion.com/
StewartP
Posted By: JC Childress
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/02/08 05:22 PM
How about Kingfish ?
I cant wait to see it Bucky ! I bet its a bad sucker.
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/02/08 05:51 PM
No thats Charlie,but it is cool
Posted By: Defbob
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/02/08 09:57 PM
actually Charlie's second car is Fishstick
Posted By: wldtm
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/03/08 12:18 AM
what about "nightstick"...flat black w/ red wheels, red head lights... hummm
Bucky is it true your first car was back halved by you with a "kit" set-up?
thanks
jm
Bucky is it true your first car was back halved by you with a "kit" set-up?
thanks
jm
Posted By: B G Racing
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/03/08 12:35 AM
Red headlights 
Posted By: wldtm
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/03/08 01:23 AM
so is only blue and yellow cool? no red?
Posted By: warfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/03/08 02:08 AM
Quote:
I got it. How about K.Cuda Chaser?
just so you know, I didnt choose that, it just showed up. I requested "the man"
how bout "I dream of genie" for the new car
cw
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/03/08 03:07 AM
Yes I bought an alston kit did the whole car in my garage, rollcage, 4 link,narrowed the dana,tubs didn't have a clue,but an 8.76 @ 150 tens years ago.Must have done something right.Charlie you be the jeff wins though with the i'll be Come on I dream of Jeannie kkII rocks
jeff wins though with the i'll be Come on I dream of Jeannie kkII rocks
Posted By: wldtm
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/03/08 03:15 AM
Quote:
Yes I bought an alston kit did the whole car in my garage, rollcage, 4 link,narrowed the dana,tubs didn't have a clue,but an 8.76 @ 150 tens years ago.Must have done something right.Charlie you be the
Much respect. Theres hope for people like me! When do we get to see the new car? Good luck and thanks for the reply...
justin m
Posted By: SSDAcuda
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/03/08 11:48 AM
Quote:
Charlie you be the
Bucky, I like your style!
Can't wait to see your new ride. How about some prepainted chassis pics of the latest AH chassis technology! 
Posted By: Defbob
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/03/08 02:24 PM
Bucky, you've only been doing this for 10years? What is to come of your old car, is it still going to be raced or displayed?
Posted By: estcsthemi18
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/03/08 04:41 PM
Bucky has been involved with hemi's alot longer than 10 years. He even raced boats a while back. 
Posted By: Defbob
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/03/08 05:29 PM
I meant racing a SS/AA Barracuda
Posted By: dragonfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/04/08 12:25 AM
what yellow is the main color of the port-a-tree car
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/04/08 01:53 AM
I started building my 1st car in 1988raced beginning of 1991.I hope to have the new car ready for atco div.My new car is as nice as you can build one.Travis has some pictures on his my space page,as we have been painting it still has some lettering and pinstriping to do.When I get it done I will get a picture of it on here.It looks like a 1968 funny car.How about that gold and black car when is it going to be done and that one on the other thread?
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/04/08 02:05 AM
Racing ss/aa cars since 1991.I had a real 1970 hemi challenger with 21,000 miles.that I built the motor for in the late 70's went a 10.97 back then.sold car for $9000 thought I was rich.Called the guy that I sold it to in the late 80's ask him what he wanted for it he said $1,000,000.I repaired the old car.Travis is going to paint front and hopefully run it again.I have his motor about ready to put together.
Posted By: island hemi
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/04/08 10:49 AM
Bucky I took a used 70 Hemi Cuda with 11 miles on it in trade on a car i had in 73. Sold it to a guy for $4000 he still has it today. I tried to buy it back 10 years ago he would not even give me a figure. Just looked at the hood on my space WOW
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/04/08 12:41 PM
Buckey, don't feel bad we had a 1971 original Hemi Cuda Conv. w/ 4speed that we ran in SS/EA that we bought in 1971 and sold in 1987. ir recently brought over 2mil. But that's the way it goes. we paid 4500.00 and sold it to the Painter brothers
Posted By: warfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/04/08 05:09 PM
Quote:
Buckey, don't feel bad we had a 1971 original Hemi Cuda Conv. w/ 4speed that we ran in SS/EA that we bought in 1971 and sold in 1987. ir recently brought over 2mil. But that's the way it goes. we paid 4500.00 and sold it to the Painter brothers
how do you think I felt when I bought this peach for 250.00, then had to let it go on ebay for 20.00.
I am trying to cope with my emotions.
Posted By: J_BODY
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/04/08 05:16 PM
Come on , could have done a little 
and had that looking like new!
, could have done a little and had that looking like new!
Posted By: J_BODY
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/04/08 05:22 PM
You could go the "resto" look
Posted By: island hemi
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/04/08 05:36 PM
CW any way you can get it back i think it is a better car than the one i started with. Later CC 
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/04/08 11:44 PM
Not a bad idea for you Cw!
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/05/08 12:48 AM
how do you think I felt when I bought this peach for 250.00, then had to let it go on ebay for 20.00.
I am trying to cope with my emotions.
Now thats funny stuff...and I dont care who you are.....Think of the shine Jordan could of done on that car...."RED FISH"....shoulda' kept it
Posted By: warfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/05/08 11:51 PM
did anyone see that wayne county tune up jason line was running last night? looked fishy to me.
Posted By: StewartP
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/06/08 12:16 AM
oh the blow up ?
StewartP
StewartP
Posted By: warfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/06/08 01:49 AM
I heard some stuff about the smith clan today getting sentenced, has anyone heard anything about it?
cw
cw
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/08/08 11:23 PM
...anyone here?
Posted By: B5 Bee
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/08/08 11:46 PM
Quote:
I heard some stuff about the smith clan today getting sentenced, has anyone heard anything about it?
cw
Only could find when they were indicted March 14, nothing about a recent sentencing.
http://www.sundaygazettemail.com/News/200803130813
Posted By: warfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/09/08 12:45 AM
it was a rumor, it wasnt true.
Posted By: dragonfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/10/08 10:49 PM
WHAT DAYS ARE THE HEMI CHALLENGE at INDY
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/10/08 11:48 PM
wed and thurs qualifing.fri.hemi challenge
Posted By: dragonfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/11/08 02:46 PM
Thanx, gonna try and be there thurs. and fri.
Posted By: warfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/11/08 07:16 PM
for those interested, we have our new spring changing tool available, all steel to stand up to the ever increasing spring loads.
pics on the webpage.
cw
pics on the webpage.
cw
Posted By: warfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/13/08 09:55 PM
there will be an announcement soon from NHRA to let us know that they will enforce the 25-(whatever) chassis spec for all cars that have went faster than 8.50. I suggested that it should be for the class as a whole, not sure which way they will swing at this point.
cw
cw
Posted By: jyrki
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/14/08 05:28 AM
That's nice! It's SFI 25.5 spec. Just got ours ready and teched, it will be a real pleasure in such a small car as an A-body. We had the old 8.5+ mild steel cage, and updating that to the SFI 25.5 spec would have doubled the weight of the cage. We built a completely new cage out of chromo, and the weight is now about 20% more than that of the previous cage. Still have problems of getting below the maximum weigth of the SFI25.5 psec, 3600 lbs, but I think your cars are lighter than that. We actually have to compromise safety, use lighter brakes, no wheelie bars, no sway bars etc, to meet the weight of the safety regulatins. Doesnät make much sence to me. In my opinion, it would be wrong to mandate the SFI 25.5 spec cage in th SS/AH, kind of a punishment that you run so quick, since most never reach the 8.5 sec level. How are these things done in for example SS/AM cars, that are also capable for sub 8.5 sec ET's?
http://kuvablogi.com/nayta/iso/img1072792.jpg
http://kuvablogi.com/nayta/iso/img1072792.jpg
Posted By: HEMI472
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/14/08 05:31 AM
i know bucky in KING CUDA went faster than 8.50 has anyone else? thanks Ed
in KING CUDA went faster than 8.50 has anyone else? thanks Ed
Posted By: warfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/14/08 11:27 AM
The modified cars will have the same rule enforced. I say if yhey are going to do it it needs to be for the whole class just like every other class racing chassis spec. in SS/H you have to have a cage SS/I you dont. we are no different, do it as a class, or dont do it.
Posted By: JERICOGTX
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/14/08 01:25 PM
How do most cars get away without running a chute, when they are capable of running over 150mph?
Is there a ride height rule for the AH cars now? How low are these cars being setup?
Jeff
Is there a ride height rule for the AH cars now? How low are these cars being setup?
Jeff
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/14/08 01:29 PM
King Kuda II is Certified to 7.5 or slower.I think only cars that are capable to run under 8.50 should have to do this .Other wise we will lose alot of cars and I don't want to see that.
Posted By: J_BODY
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/14/08 01:33 PM
Quote:
How do most cars get away without running a chute, when they are capable of running over 150mph?
Jeff
We still got a chuckle at MaTS when there were bracket racers running 9.9's and have to wear the thick jacket, pants, etc... and we watched a SS/AH guy slip on his sweat pants over his shorts prior to a run
Posted By: warfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/14/08 10:01 PM
I think it should be by class because that is the way it works for every class. Say you build a prostock car, just because it goes 8.60 doesnt mean that it doesnt have to meet pro stock specs. Top fuel, funny car, comp etc. A class car is not a bracket car, and the rules should be class specific.
the way that the rule is as of now (subject to change) is that as long as you dont go too fast in the dial-in eliminator, it doesnt matter how fast you go. class elims, qualifying, are exempt. I dont get the logic behind this. so if you go too fast, they give you a form at the scales that you have to sign and agree to not do it again at that event or you will be DQ'd. I say they can change this at any time, like when I am on my way to the dutch classic, and I will get dq'd in qualifying (potentially).
cw
the way that the rule is as of now (subject to change) is that as long as you dont go too fast in the dial-in eliminator, it doesnt matter how fast you go. class elims, qualifying, are exempt. I dont get the logic behind this. so if you go too fast, they give you a form at the scales that you have to sign and agree to not do it again at that event or you will be DQ'd. I say they can change this at any time, like when I am on my way to the dutch classic, and I will get dq'd in qualifying (potentially).
cw
Posted By: JERICOGTX
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/15/08 10:30 AM
Charlie, I agree it should be class specific. What does the SFI 25.5 chassis have different then a regular 12 point cage? Is it a funny car type cage? My buddies Dart is heading to the chassis shop in a couple weeks, and it would be nice to know what the cars are going to need.
Thanks.
Jeff
Thanks.
Jeff
Posted By: j oliverio
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/15/08 11:20 AM
buckey, how is the car coming along?
Posted By: StewartP
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/15/08 12:55 PM
Old style custom paint
StewartP
StewartP
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/15/08 01:07 PM
Ok then how about if they dont want to step up Nhra let them go back an run ss/aa?
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/15/08 01:09 PM
Coming along very well.Hope to debut at Atco in June
Posted By: Troy
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/15/08 03:01 PM
Quote:
Ok then how about if they dont want to step up Nhra let them go back an run ss/aa?
....In all the other classes you can move one class up or one class down. Good idea!!
Posted By: j oliverio
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/15/08 04:02 PM
I think NHRA should et them run SS/AA if that is their choice.
Posted By: Troy
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/15/08 06:11 PM
The Chevy people complained to much for that to happen again.
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/15/08 06:56 PM
Well then if they don't let the 68 cars run in ss/aa, I'll give them chevy guys something to think about when I get this 65 done. When are ya runnin next
When are ya runnin next
Posted By: jyrki
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/16/08 07:35 AM
For "regular people", the limit for a rollcage is 11.0 seocnds, under that and you need a cage. In SS, however, the cage is not needed in a class, where the national record is in the 9's. With that logic, requering SFI cage from cars in a class, where one or two cars have barely run under the 8.5 second barrier so far, just doesn't make much sence. I think in the other S & SS classes, the safety requirements are based on indexes, SS/IA index is 11.0, which still doesn't require a cage, and SS/HA is 10.85 = cage. Since SS/AH index is 9.80, following the same logic, a SFI 25.5 spec cage shouldn't be needed.
Posted By: j oliverio
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/16/08 11:43 AM
I was up at Buckey's with Wild Bill Collett and he has some nice pieces. That new 68 car is outstanding to say the least. That 65 is nice also but I'm partial to the 65's.
Posted By: Dyno1
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/16/08 12:21 PM
It would be much for effective for everyone if they added 5 horsepower to slow the cars down and prevent alot of added expenses to update the entire class to a new chassis spec. because of a couple of fast cars. Wait until the heat of the summer, no one will be as fast as this spring. Dyno
Posted By: Troublemaker427
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/16/08 12:47 PM
Quote:
I was up at Buckey's with Wild Bill Collett and he has some nice pieces. That new 68 car is outstanding to say the least. That 65 is nice also but I'm partial to the 65's.
How is Wild Bill. Is he building another car?
Posted By: j oliverio
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/16/08 04:06 PM
Bill is working on car now. Hopefully before year end.
Posted By: Troublemaker427
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/16/08 04:19 PM
Same car as crashed or another Cuda?
Posted By: warfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/17/08 02:06 AM
hey hemi fans, come on over to columbus for the chrysler classic. we are here now, pancake will be here tomorrow. don bales is here too. we just got here, quite a few cars on the grounds.
later
cw
later
cw
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/17/08 02:27 AM
sweet charlie, are you gonna have any shirts? i will be out there with the whompin wedge
casey
casey
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/17/08 02:49 AM
that wouldn't make sence to have a cage rule for the whole ah class.some guys don't have the funds to go 8.50's in good air or ever.if so there would be alot of cars going back to the chassis shop.that would be cool if they did let the ah cars go beat up on the vettes if they can't run in ah because of the spec change.i do agree with the chute on the 150 mph cars.plus it looks cool on those cars. ,but what do i know i just paint stuff.
,but what do i know i just paint stuff.
Posted By: SSAAHemiFan
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/17/08 09:27 AM
Travis.... Got any teaser pics of your dad's new paint job?? pretty please
Dying to see what you guys have come up with this time. No doubt it will be incredible!
I'm trying to come up with a nostalgia style paint job for my car so I can take it to the Hemi Reunion (it's a clone) but it's tough to find something to go with viper yellow
Dying to see what you guys have come up with this time. No doubt it will be incredible!
I'm trying to come up with a nostalgia style paint job for my car so I can take it to the Hemi Reunion (it's a clone) but it's tough to find something to go with viper yellow
Posted By: warfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/17/08 10:57 AM
Quote:
Well then if they don't let the 68 cars run in ss/aa, I'll give them chevy guys something to think about when I get this 65 done.
he was runnin @ norwalk (I guess that was runnin')
he went a 95 @ 146
keys went a 91 @ 146
we never got hold of the track I went a 76 @ 152 dad went 78 @ 155
columbus should be a challange
cw
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/18/08 02:22 AM
Ok here you go.
Posted By: CMcAllister
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/18/08 03:17 AM
You have authorization to post that photo?
Posted By: crc
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/18/08 03:41 AM
Quote:
You have authorization to post that photo?
I would hope so...he painted it.
It looks awesome. Can't wait to see the whole car.
Posted By: SealockRacing
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/18/08 04:13 AM
Bucky, that car is gorgeous! i wish our 67 looked that awesome, it will one day though! i love these SS/AH cars!
John Sealock
John Sealock
Posted By: JulieJordan
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/18/08 04:17 AM
Wow, Travis, lots of detail going on. I love the purple. Can't wait to see the finished car!
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/18/08 08:11 AM
A new SS/DA Dodge showed up at Norwalk points meet
http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2331326370103507369dIVSNo
http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2331326370103507369dIVSNo
Posted By: drag345
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/18/08 09:49 AM
WOW Travis that paint is AMAZING!
Can't wait to see it finished.
thanks for posting
drag345
Can't wait to see it finished. thanks for posting
drag345
Posted By: SSAAHemiFan
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/18/08 01:00 PM
Thanks Travis
Glad you decided to keep the scales on the new car also. The red and burgundy look awesome.
Man..can't wait too see it in person.
Glad you decided to keep the scales on the new car also. The red and burgundy look awesome.
Man..can't wait too see it in person.
Posted By: j oliverio
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/18/08 01:43 PM
When you see Buckey's car it will blow you away. It is gorgeous.
Posted By: jake4cars
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/18/08 04:06 PM
That is one awesome paint job, can't wait to see it @Indy
Joey
Joey
Posted By: Troublemaker427
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/18/08 08:10 PM
Travis,
The new car looks great!!!!! You and your dad do great work.
By the way does anyone know if Ray Barton is building a new car?
The new car looks great!!!!! You and your dad do great work.
By the way does anyone know if Ray Barton is building a new car?
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/19/08 02:20 AM
hey thanks alot.this is the nicest car dad has ever had.he's been going like crazy to get it on the track.this thing looks like a late sixties funny car...hey cole,i think i'm ok.what about the detailed veiw from behind? gotta give them somthing to look at.
gotta give them somthing to look at.
Posted By: CMcAllister
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/19/08 06:12 AM
The car is beautiful. It needs to be seen in person. There is no way a photo can do it justice. It's just off the hook. BTW, Travis did some extra special work on the tail panel to give the chasers something nice to look at while they're doing the chasing..
Posted By: jyrki
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/19/08 11:09 AM
Local cars first outing, first SS/AH in Finland:
http://www.kuvia.1g.fi/kuvat/Tapahtumat+2008/FHRA/Sonax17_18_5_08/Pit/MOP_4007.jpg/full
http://www.kuvia.1g.fi/kuvat/Tapahtumat+2008/FHRA/Sonax17_18_5_08/Pit/MOP_4802.jpg/full
http://www.kuvia.1g.fi/kuvat/Tapahtumat+2008/FHRA/Sonax17_18_5_08/Race/MOP_4318.jpg/full
http://www.kuvia.1g.fi/kuvat/Tapahtumat+2008/FHRA/Sonax17_18_5_08/Race/MOP_4321.jpg/full
http://www.kuvia.1g.fi/kuvat/Tapahtumat+2008/FHRA/Sonax17_18_5_08/Race/MOP_4488.jpg/full
http://www.kuvia.1g.fi/kuvat/Tapahtumat+2008/FHRA/Sonax17_18_5_08/Race/MOP_4490.jpg/full
http://www.kuvia.1g.fi/kuvat/Tapahtumat+2008/FHRA/Sonax17_18_5_08/Pit/MOP_4007.jpg/full
http://www.kuvia.1g.fi/kuvat/Tapahtumat+2008/FHRA/Sonax17_18_5_08/Pit/MOP_4802.jpg/full
http://www.kuvia.1g.fi/kuvat/Tapahtumat+2008/FHRA/Sonax17_18_5_08/Race/MOP_4318.jpg/full
http://www.kuvia.1g.fi/kuvat/Tapahtumat+2008/FHRA/Sonax17_18_5_08/Race/MOP_4321.jpg/full
http://www.kuvia.1g.fi/kuvat/Tapahtumat+2008/FHRA/Sonax17_18_5_08/Race/MOP_4488.jpg/full
http://www.kuvia.1g.fi/kuvat/Tapahtumat+2008/FHRA/Sonax17_18_5_08/Race/MOP_4490.jpg/full
Posted By: cgall
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/19/08 01:59 PM
Very cool to see the Warfish cars and Pancake make some runs at the cc event. Too bad Don Bales did not get his new NSS motor figured out (605" Hemi w/2 dominators).
Some bracket racer in a Nova wanted to run Pancake heads-up, Pancake ran something like 5.53, the Nova was breaking up badly, better check the NOS system. Rumor was there was some $$$ on the line.
Some bracket racer in a Nova wanted to run Pancake heads-up, Pancake ran something like 5.53, the Nova was breaking up badly, better check the NOS system.
Rumor was there was some $$$ on the line.
Posted By: warfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/19/08 08:02 PM
we had fun at that event, I was glad we came. we sold alot of shirts, talked to some magazines, didnt break anything etc. dont forget that there will be a real hemi shootout at his norwalk event that pays big money. I was a little sad that the MCH stable didnt show up, I guess they figured they had work to do. We could've had a small race at that event if we had a few more cars.
cw
that the MCH stable didnt show up, I guess they figured they had work to do. We could've had a small race at that event if we had a few more cars.cw
Posted By: B G Racing
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/19/08 11:46 PM
Was great watching you guys and Pancake
Posted By: dragonfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/20/08 12:20 AM
ANOTHER SS/AH CAR FROM SWEDEN
Posted By: sshemifan
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/20/08 02:59 AM
Quote:
Well then if they don't let the 68 cars run in ss/aa, I'll give them chevy guys something to think about when I get this 65 done.
Bucky, when will the 65 be done? Can't wait to see you do a little vette busting!!! By the way, the new cuda looks amazing.
Regards, John
Posted By: dan1320
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/20/08 04:04 AM
Charlie,
Just a quick question about your dads car if you don't mind. I didn't get to see all of the runs as I was running Hemi S/S but I was standing on the starting line when he blew the tires off of it on one pass. Was that a suspension deal or a clutch issue? I don't know too much about the type of clutch you guys run but it looked to me all most ProModish in how hard it spun.
It was great having you guys come down and let us see you perform up close like that.
Just a quick question about your dads car if you don't mind. I didn't get to see all of the runs as I was running Hemi S/S but I was standing on the starting line when he blew the tires off of it on one pass. Was that a suspension deal or a clutch issue? I don't know too much about the type of clutch you guys run but it looked to me all most ProModish in how hard it spun.
It was great having you guys come down and let us see you perform up close like that.
Posted By: Brandon70cuda
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/20/08 04:52 AM
If it was in the Left lane it was probably just the track being sh*t. It was all weekend for some reason. Just about everyone I know spun in that lane. Yet the right lane was great go figure.
Posted By: Ben Holt
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/20/08 01:04 PM
We went right down the left lane twice with Pancake's car....
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/20/08 01:28 PM
One at a time please
Posted By: dan1320
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/20/08 02:19 PM
The left lane worked ok for us too but we ain't making near that much HP. I was just curious if was something that CW was trying on the stick car is all. Just a tech type question if he wanted to answer it.
I was just curious if was something that CW was trying on the stick car is all. Just a tech type question if he wanted to answer it.
Posted By: warfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/20/08 04:58 PM
we were experimenting with dads car, clutch and tires. My car went down both lanes every time, which was unusual. I made some 4-link changes at norwalk, and didnt get to put it to use until we got to columbus. I was very happy with the way my car worked there, and hope to keep moving forward.
cw
cw
Posted By: Joe Grippo
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/20/08 06:11 PM
Anyone coming to the D1 race at Maple Grove this weekend?
Posted By: dan1320
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/20/08 08:03 PM
Thanks Charlie, that's what I was looking for.
Posted By: AMXDuster
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/20/08 10:13 PM
Wow, love that new 66 Coronet SS/DA car with the Sox and Martin paint scheme... obviously Hemi powered, any more details? Motor builder, chassis guy? Great car, looking forward to seeing it at Joliet possibly?
Thanks!
Thanks!
Posted By: mbogina
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/20/08 11:24 PM
The Coronet belongs to Russ Abrams now- he bought it a couple weeks ago off ebay. The car was built about 10 years ago by Phil Collins (Collins and Jones Racing) and run out of the High Adventure Racing group. Phil moved to Florida several years ago and has raced the car down there, running a best of 9.51 in SS/EA with a 1.271 60' (footbrake). He sent the motor up to KC for freshening a couple years ago and decided to re-paint the car. He just finished it up a couple months ago. I think that there are a few pics with the old paint scheme on www.autoimagery.com (search for Phil Collins). I believe that Norwalk was the first time out for Russ, hope that he enjoys the car- should be a blast
Mike Bogina SS/DA 5088
High Adventure Racing
Mike Bogina SS/DA 5088
High Adventure Racing
Posted By: AMXDuster
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/20/08 11:35 PM
Mike,
Thanks for the reply, searched Auto Imagery and Phil's car was the white car, but is a 67 SS/EA in the pic. I own a 66 Coronet, was there a reason for changing the car over to a 66? Wondering if there is some advantage to a 66 motor for SS over the '67. Again, thanks for the reply, the car looks fantastic, BIG motivator to get working on mine.
Arvid Svendsen
Thanks for the reply, searched Auto Imagery and Phil's car was the white car, but is a 67 SS/EA in the pic. I own a 66 Coronet, was there a reason for changing the car over to a 66? Wondering if there is some advantage to a 66 motor for SS over the '67. Again, thanks for the reply, the car looks fantastic, BIG motivator to get working on mine.
Arvid Svendsen
Posted By: mk_
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/21/08 12:20 AM
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King Kuda II is Certified to 7.5 or slower.I think only cars that are capable to run under 8.50 should have to do this .Other wise we will lose alot of cars and I don't want to see that.
I see in the rule revisions updated today it says "Effective 1/1/2009; Roll cage meeting SFI 25.4 or 25.5 is mandatory for all super stock cars running 8.49 seconds(*5.30) or quicker."
Posted By: mbogina
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/21/08 12:47 AM
The 66 Coronet was not available with the RO SS Hemi Scoop, they have to run a flat hood. Only the 67 is allowed the SS Scoop, so Phil changed it over to a 67.
Posted By: AMXDuster
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/21/08 01:14 AM
Thanks for the reply, makes sense. As a fellow 66 owner, glad Russ brought it back to a 66. Again, aweseome car.
Posted By: AMXDuster
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/21/08 01:21 AM
Oops, rereading your original post, Phil brought it back to a '66... Look forward to seeing it go down the track. Again, great car!
Posted By: mr_340
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/21/08 01:49 AM
Quote:
The 66 Coronet was not available with the RO SS Hemi Scoop, they have to run a flat hood. Only the 67 is allowed the SS Scoop, so Phil changed it over to a 67.
Mike, I was looking at the 1966 Plymouth classification guide and NHRA had three combinations in there with the scoop and the battery in the trunk. One was a wagon. It looks like they extended the RO combo over to 1966 if I'm reading it right?
Posted By: REHBERGERRACING
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/21/08 03:29 AM
I saw that car for sale here on Moparts. I belive it has a 67 grill & headlight bezels.
Neat car!!!!
Neat car!!!!
Posted By: REHBERGERRACING
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/21/08 03:47 AM
I just found this picture.......
Posted By: Ben Holt
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/21/08 11:16 AM
I wasn't trying to be a p@#$k, I guess I just get really defensive when I think someone is bad-mouthing Trails...It's our home track and all of our guys always do awesome there.
It was really cool to have The Westcott's and Pancake there this weekend, I hope it was a little treat for some of the other racers/fans there. But like Charlie said, they have a shootout at the Classic race at Norwalk, and they pay back to the semi's!! You won't get treated any better anywhere else, trust me!!
It was really cool to have The Westcott's and Pancake there this weekend, I hope it was a little treat for some of the other racers/fans there. But like Charlie said, they have a shootout at the Classic race at Norwalk, and they pay back to the semi's!! You won't get treated any better anywhere else, trust me!!
Posted By: QuickSilver
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/21/08 12:45 PM
Hey Charlie, I just wanted to thank you and your father for putting on another great weekend show. Also for being such a gracious host when it started to rain on saturday afternoon you invited my buddy and myself into your rig and we picked up some new T's. We are true SS/A fans from wayback and really dig Hemi's as a rule. We will be looking forward to seeing ya'll at Norwalk in september. Why don't more hardcore hemi cars show up for those laid back weekends? The fans really like the action. Later, JC.
Posted By: JC Childress
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/21/08 03:53 PM
What does that 67 Coronet have to weigh ? NHRA SS legal weight I mean.
Posted By: warfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/21/08 04:45 PM
Quote:
Hey Charlie, I just wanted to thank you and your father for putting on another great weekend show. Also for being such a gracious host when it started to rain on saturday afternoon you invited my buddy and myself into your rig and we picked up some new T's. We are true SS/A fans from wayback and really dig Hemi's as a rule. We will be looking forward to seeing ya'll at Norwalk in september. Why don't more hardcore hemi cars show up for those laid back weekends? The fans really like the action. Later, JC.
I dont know why the other 2 hemis that were at norwalk didnt come down unless they had other commitments, (like finding 100hp). I had hoped to have some more cars so we could have a race.
thanks for buying a shirt, we always appreciate it.
cw
Posted By: dan1320
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/21/08 05:49 PM
CW, you've raised the bar too high maybe.
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/21/08 06:53 PM
No the bar is 8.46 @ 156..Thank you.I think is finding its harder than it looks.No offense Jeff
is finding its harder than it looks.No offense Jeff
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/21/08 07:55 PM
Quote:
No the bar is 8.46 @ 156..Thank you.I think
when did jeff go a 46? I knew he was fast, but that is flyin!
Posted By: moderncylinder
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/21/08 08:25 PM
bucky ran an 8.46,, though i thought you ran an 8.43 at atco last year.
i have one run on the car now that it left the line ok,, not spinning like the first run at norwalk, or pushing through the lights because the two step was at 4400 and there was only a single rear caliper on the back,, with my leg bent as much as it was/is, being about a foot taller than jerry i couldnt get the leverage on the pedal like jerry could. i ran an 8.95 at 146.5 or so,, i know the motor in the car is down,, thast not my best effort,, i didnt really car,, i just want to get comfortable in the car and drive it a little. i wanted to get a comparison to see how far i was away from charlie for mph so i knew how much i needed to pick up,, but he spun so he was down mph, and i still had a few issues that i didnt catch till i got home saturday, though that motor, in its current configuration is still about 6mph down from charlie, no big deal to me at this point indy is 3 months away. ill have a better motor in it for the chicago race, though probably not up to charlie's mark, but closer.
i didnt goto columbus because i have way to much work to do at my shop. i havent spent any real time on my hemi stuff because of it i just needed a running engine to go get my grade pooints and get comfortable driving the car.
jeff
i have one run on the car now that it left the line ok,, not spinning like the first run at norwalk, or pushing through the lights because the two step was at 4400 and there was only a single rear caliper on the back,, with my leg bent as much as it was/is, being about a foot taller than jerry i couldnt get the leverage on the pedal like jerry could. i ran an 8.95 at 146.5 or so,, i know the motor in the car is down,, thast not my best effort,, i didnt really car,, i just want to get comfortable in the car and drive it a little. i wanted to get a comparison to see how far i was away from charlie for mph so i knew how much i needed to pick up,, but he spun so he was down mph, and i still had a few issues that i didnt catch till i got home saturday, though that motor, in its current configuration is still about 6mph down from charlie, no big deal to me at this point indy is 3 months away. ill have a better motor in it for the chicago race, though probably not up to charlie's mark, but closer.
i didnt goto columbus because i have way to much work to do at my shop. i havent spent any real time on my hemi stuff because of it i just needed a running engine to go get my grade pooints and get comfortable driving the car.
jeff
Posted By: dan1320
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/21/08 10:01 PM
Ah Bucky, I only meant compared to the cars at the Norwalk race. I know there are a lot of hitters in that class. That's why it makes it so much fun for us fans. It's close to the way drag racing used to be and for that we are all grateful. Btw, Joe Tueton introduced himself last month at the Chrysler Classic race in Bowling Green while we were in the staging lanes. What a super guy he is. Had nothing but great things to say about you and the Cuda. The car was was looking and running awesome.
I know there are a lot of hitters in that class. That's why it makes it so much fun for us fans. It's close to the way drag racing used to be and for that we are all grateful. Btw, Joe Tueton introduced himself last month at the Chrysler Classic race in Bowling Green while we were in the staging lanes. What a super guy he is. Had nothing but great things to say about you and the Cuda. The car was was looking and running awesome.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/22/08 12:43 AM
how much hp does one mph equal? I have heard alot of different stories.
Posted By: warfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/22/08 12:09 PM
I had a chrysler engineer at vegas tell me (based on the speed diff from my dads stick car to mine) that it takes 13 hp per mph. He was hangin with Tom Hoover, dont remember his name.
cw
cw
Posted By: 64ssmax
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/22/08 12:48 PM
Quote:
I had a chrysler engineer at vegas tell me (based on the speed diff from my dads stick car to mine) that it takes 13 hp per mph. He was hangin with Tom Hoover, dont remember his name.
cw
Just curious on how that engineer came up with that number. 156x13= 2028hp? 156/13= 12hp?
Posted By: JERICOGTX
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/22/08 01:25 PM
Hard to say what the hp diff would be. The faster you go the harder it is to gain a mph, while pushing a brick. I know Charlie has more HP then the rest, but him and his Dad also have a big thing figured out on these cars, and that is the ability to make the cars 60'. That is gained by taking the cars out alot, and testing them. Seems Jr. and Sr. are always testing. You learn from trial and error.
On a side not, my buddy has been collecting alot of parts for his AH car lately. It will be off to the chassis shop next Saturday. I'll take some pics when I can. ALot of good parts going into the chassis.
Jeff
On a side not, my buddy has been collecting alot of parts for his AH car lately. It will be off to the chassis shop next Saturday. I'll take some pics when I can. ALot of good parts going into the chassis.
Jeff
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/22/08 03:54 PM
Don't think so.
Posted By: JERICOGTX
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/22/08 04:00 PM
Quote:
Don't think so.
Posted By: sixpackbee
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/22/08 04:03 PM
Quote:
how much hp does one mph equal? I have heard alot of different stories.
The increase in horse power needed to gain velocity is a exponential curve, a funtion of velocity squared. Simply put to gain 10 mph from 100 to 110 needs way less power than it takes to gain 10 from 150 to 160. There is no set broad formula as the cars drag coefficient needs to be known. All cars have a different CD.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/22/08 05:12 PM
Quote:
Don't think so.
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/22/08 07:15 PM
more h.p.than the rest
Posted By: mbogina
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/22/08 07:53 PM
my calcs show 18 HP difference to go from 155 mph to 156 mph at 3220 lbs
Posted By: JERICOGTX
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/22/08 08:03 PM
Quote:
more h.p.than the rest
Sorry, except Bucky.
Bucky who is building your motors now? Clark still?
Posted By: 68Fastback
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/22/08 08:43 PM
I wonder what the dollar calc is going from 150ish to 156. Guessing if you gotta ask ya can't afford to play.
Quote:
my calcs show 18 HP difference to go from 155 mph to 156 mph at 3220 lbs
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/22/08 08:49 PM
Quote:
my calcs show 18 HP difference to go from 155 mph to 156 mph at 3220 lbs
how much to go from 146 to 152?
Posted By: mbogina
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/22/08 09:55 PM
fromm 146 mph to 152 mph calcs to 99 HP difference at 3220 lbs.
Posted By: warfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/22/08 10:14 PM
Quote:
fromm 146 mph to 152 mph calcs to 99 HP difference at 3220 lbs.
bingo!
I'm sure not all will agree with this, I do though.
cw
Posted By: sixpackbee
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/23/08 12:26 AM
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romm 146 mph to 152 mph calcs to 99 HP difference at 3220 lbs.
The weight of the vehicle is really a small issue when compared to the aero forces. In high gear the car is accelerating at a relatively slow rate. Punching a hole through the air becomes the greater combating force.
Posted By: pfm
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/23/08 01:14 AM
Quote:
from 146 mph to 152 mph calcs to 99 HP difference at 3220 lbs.
Wow, I never would have guessed 100 horse.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/23/08 02:06 AM
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We went right down the left lane twice with Pancake's car....
Your father and you really got the setup right on Cakes car..It was really going down the track smooth...I talked to Jim the other day for a good while...I think hes got the ride thats going to put down a 43 or 44 and re-capture the AH record for sure..poppaj
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/23/08 02:57 AM
No offence to Jr, but I cant wait till Sr. with the 4 speed car puts a woopin' to the kid this year. I hope it's at Indy for all to see,.... JR, I'm sure Sr will congrat the motor builder when he's collecting the check...LOL....and I'll bet the motor builder WON'T be too disappointed when it happens either.
Posted By: Ben Holt
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/23/08 03:24 AM
Thanks Jim!! We're really proud of that car, and of all the hard work Jim puts in on it. I sure hope he's got a number like that in her, as long as he had that record it seems weird that someone else has it, but Charlie sure deserves it, Jim just deserves it a little bit more!! HAHAHA BTW, brown nosing me won't get your stuff done any quicker....
Ben
Ben
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/23/08 08:00 AM
Quote:
Thanks Jim!! We're really proud of that car, and of all the hard work Jim puts in on it. I sure hope he's got a number like that in her, as long as he had that record it seems weird that someone else has it, but Charlie sure deserves it, Jim just deserves it a little bit more!! HAHAHA BTW, brown nosing me won't get your stuff done any quicker....
Ben
would I do that
Posted By: dragonfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/24/08 12:08 AM
SO FAR AT MAPLE GROVE , JIM PANCAKE #1 SS/AH CAR 8.62 AND A HECK OF A NICE GUY TO TALK TO !!!
WENDELL HOWES 8.66, DAVID BARTON 8.70, MELVIN DANIELS 8.71, BOB WOLKWITZ 8.77, GARY WOLKWITZ AND MARK HOWES 8.83
WENDELL HOWES 8.66, DAVID BARTON 8.70, MELVIN DANIELS 8.71, BOB WOLKWITZ 8.77, GARY WOLKWITZ AND MARK HOWES 8.83
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/24/08 01:46 AM
how about john armstrong going a 67 in AA with the 69 corvette! I'm not a chevy guy, but thats one hell of a run. I think he does wendell howes motors too, looks like their gettng it right too.
Posted By: HEMIDARTS
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/24/08 03:39 AM
I just wanted to make a post and say that i
met Stewart P today for the first time.
He is one hellofa good guy! He met
me in florida and took me out and showed me a
real good time. He even took me to a local drag
strip. I am sorry for the of this wonderful thread, but i know Stewart comes around
here. Thanks again Stewart, you are a true friend!
met Stewart P today for the first time.
He is one hellofa good guy!
He met me in florida and took me out and showed me a
real good time. He even took me to a local drag
strip. I am sorry for the
of this wonderful thread, but i know Stewart comes aroundhere. Thanks again Stewart, you are a true friend!
Posted By: GRIZZLEY
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/24/08 05:30 AM
what about dear old dad ?
Posted By: dragonfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/24/08 12:49 PM
I saw the run 8.67 with an 8.72 backup
Posted By: warfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/25/08 02:23 AM
rains just emailed me his run from fontana, he went a 64 @ 153, dont know what everyone else did, maybe julie can report. raybourn, viera, ogburn, and jenkins are there.
also a race in bowling green, guess the clinton twp. madman is there. hope to hear how that goes.
cw
also a race in bowling green, guess the clinton twp. madman is there. hope to hear how that goes.
cw
Posted By: JulieJordan
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/25/08 03:05 AM
I have no clue what anyone ran. Neither Dad or I are there. Hard to tell what tuning magic Ogburn and crew are capable of.
Posted By: B1CUDA
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/25/08 03:38 AM
The track was very cold for most of the day,and cruddy track prep. The "64" that was mentioned before is good for #1. I believe Ogburn went 9.00, and I saw Jenkins slam the car down, and hit the pan pretty hard, causing a leak. My car went 8.72 @ 153.88 on a true 10.5 slick.(I think my car traveled a 1/2 half mile on that pass)
Good luck to everyone tomorrow!
Good luck to everyone tomorrow!
Posted By: warfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/26/08 12:01 AM
john rains took the win over mark viera in the final.
65 to an 82.
3rd #1 qualifier for rains, not bad for a motor with 54 runs on it, and 70 dyno pulls.
good job rainman, also good job to mark viera. he does his own stuff.
cw
65 to an 82.
3rd #1 qualifier for rains, not bad for a motor with 54 runs on it, and 70 dyno pulls.
good job rainman, also good job to mark viera. he does his own stuff.
cw
Posted By: nitrojoe
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/26/08 03:57 PM
ended up being a neat event, i ran them chicago style eliminations where the 2 winners came back for finals. all 5 cars seen 7 runs over the weekend.
Thanks to all five for supporting the event and West Coast Hemi's for sponsoring it.
Rains is the West coast "boss" right now.
Thanks to all five for supporting the event and West Coast Hemi's for sponsoring it.
Rains is the West coast "boss" right now.
Posted By: dragonfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/26/08 04:29 PM
anyone have a picture of Don Solomon's SS/AA Barracuda
Posted By: 68hemiss
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/26/08 04:49 PM
Joe, Which one - this one or....
Mark J
Mark J
Posted By: 68hemiss
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/26/08 05:02 PM
Or this one....
Mark J
Mark J
Posted By: dragonfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/26/08 08:57 PM
the one he's runnin now
Posted By: genuinerocker
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/27/08 07:58 PM
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just so everyone knows, not one of my engines, or my customers, that by the way have been #1 at both races so far, have anything on them from MCH. Jeff coudnt come cause he had a cold
My backup motor was good enough to go 50 something there, but it didnt. Jeff likes to compare weather station readings, a pet peave of mine. I like to compare real world results. I think the car that "dominated" indy was at vegas. If juggling D.A. readings is how you are going to build your business,we'll see you in the bankruptsy publications. Maybe you can charge admission to tour your power stables.
later
cw
You certainly can not argue Charlie's veiwpoint....His engines have been dominant!!!Talk is easy, because you swallow every word....Results come from effort and hard work....You may not see the effort and hard work, but you certainly see the results!!!!!As he put it "real world results" If any one out there has a better engine or car that can beat the Warfish, Where is it?.....
The Warfish Team has let the results on the strip do all the talking!!!!!Until someone can go faster or win in the final round against him...The results are not going to change!!!!
Posted By: cousinbob
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/27/08 08:31 PM
Mark, I saw Solomon's car this past weekend at Milan Dragway (IHRA Motor City Nationals). He was running 9.40's and he went out first round.
Posted By: Sherminator
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/28/08 01:40 AM
has anybody know if pancake is still racing or is his car outdated and under horsepowered ?
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/28/08 02:22 AM
yes he is still racing!!
he is far from out dated, he has the best built car out there no doubt in my mind!
he is always testing, he has a 40 in it just gotta find it lol
casey
he is far from out dated, he has the best built car out there no doubt in my mind!
he is always testing, he has a 40 in it just gotta find it lol
casey
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/28/08 03:30 AM
I'm ready to see some finished pics of Bucky's car........Is it top secret, or can they be posted???
Posted By: estcsthemi18
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/28/08 03:06 PM
Bucky's new cuda is about 98% complete. He will probably debut it at a race next month if everything goes okay.
if everything goes okay.
Posted By: warfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/29/08 12:09 AM
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Bucky's new cuda is about 98% complete. He will probably debut it at a race next month
probably should start with
and work up
cw
Posted By: tazmaniac
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/29/08 02:41 AM
Just a point of interest Randy Hopkins is selling his Dart.
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/29/08 12:26 PM
?
Posted By: warfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/29/08 01:05 PM
I thought he was trying to saw me in half, I suggested you should pick an easier target to start.
here are some hemi runs from bowling green posted by nitro joe on class racer
http://classracer.com/classforum/showthread.php?t=11107
5 … T/SS … 10.20 … 9.066 … -1.134 … 364 .. Tony DePillo .. Dayton OH .. 64 Savoy
38 … SS/AH … 9.80 … 8.981 … -0.819 … 335 .. Jeff Kobylok .. Macomb Twshp MI .. 68 Dart
46 … SS/AH … 9.80 … 9.131 … -0.669 … 342 .. Harold Leiter .. Troy OH .. 68 Barracuda
cw
here are some hemi runs from bowling green posted by nitro joe on class racer
http://classracer.com/classforum/showthread.php?t=11107
5 … T/SS … 10.20 … 9.066 … -1.134 … 364 .. Tony DePillo .. Dayton OH .. 64 Savoy
38 … SS/AH … 9.80 … 8.981 … -0.819 … 335 .. Jeff Kobylok .. Macomb Twshp MI .. 68 Dart
46 … SS/AH … 9.80 … 9.131 … -0.669 … 342 .. Harold Leiter .. Troy OH .. 68 Barracuda
cw
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/29/08 04:47 PM
The targets fine might as well shoot high,but by Indy we may be shooting at the ,Peace
Posted By: wldtm
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/29/08 04:50 PM
forgive me but what is T/SS? I see Depillo is registered under that, and i though that was a SS/B car...
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/29/08 06:47 PM
Top s/s is all cars run at B weight heads up
Posted By: warfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/29/08 11:20 PM
Posted By: warfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/30/08 01:48 AM
there is a new website that is pretty cool, anyway it has a story written by john force, it says the the charlotte drag strip is gonna be 4 lanes! Is this a joke?
I've seen bob reed switch lanes at two different tracks, he will have more options at this one.
has anyone else heard this?
cw
http://go2geiger.com/
I've seen bob reed switch lanes at two different tracks, he will have more options at this one.
has anyone else heard this?
cw
http://go2geiger.com/
Posted By: Defbob
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/30/08 11:08 AM
run two races at a time, seperated by jersey barriers. old concept
Posted By: warfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/30/08 12:34 PM
Quote:
run two races at a time, seperated by jersey barriers. old concept
I realize that, my dad did it in the 60's, but when was the last time you heard of someone building a 4 lane dragstrip. I think it is a good idea. You could get the races done in half the time.
cw
Posted By: Bill_LBSR
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 05/30/08 02:43 PM
Either that or if one is oiled down they can switch to the other one to speed up eliminations for TV coverage..........would make tuning for the track quite interesting.
Posted By: 64ssmax
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 06/05/08 11:45 AM
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 06/06/08 12:25 PM
IT'S ALIVE! are you scared?
are you scared?
Posted By: estcsthemi18
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 06/06/08 06:30 PM
Posted By: JulieJordan
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 06/10/08 09:05 PM
Bucky ~ Is the car ready for Atco this weekend? If so, good luck!
Posted By: estcsthemi18
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 06/11/08 12:29 PM
Bucky's new car will be at Atco. Julie, we also want you to know that Jared is in our thoughts and prayers.
Posted By: JAKE68
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 06/11/08 03:13 PM
Just got an E-mail with pictures of Ron Mancini's original A car that has been in a garage since 1973 and never raced. I talk to the guy about a year ago and found out he went to the same high school as me and we never met. He was origanly going to make the car a pro street car and never did it boy I bet he was glad. Well he sold the car sunday. I am going to call him and get the poop. I wish I knew how to get those photo's and tex on here. Jake
Posted By: PC-CHARGER
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 06/11/08 03:56 PM
There's a thread in the General section from the guy who just bought it.
https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...;gonew=1#UNREAD
https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...;gonew=1#UNREAD
Posted By: JAKE68
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 06/11/08 07:18 PM
I guess I was a day late!!!!!!!!!!!!Jake
Posted By: 65 Belv A990
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 06/12/08 07:55 AM
Quote:
I guess I was a day late!!!!!!!!!!!!Jake
Yep Gary and more than likely about a quarter to a third a million George Washingtons short as well!
Ed.
Posted By: HemiDart68
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 06/12/08 01:31 PM
Quote:Quote:
I guess I was a day late!!!!!!!!!!!!Jake
Yep Gary and more than likely about a quarter to a third a million George Washingtons short as well!
Ed.
I just hope that the guy that had the car for thirty years got some of those george washingtons, not just the guys that (saved) it.
Posted By: willp
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 06/12/08 11:48 PM
Link to pictures of Bucky Hess' new King Kuda
http://classracer.com/classforum/showthread.php?t=11338&page=2
http://classracer.com/classforum/showthread.php?t=11338&page=2
Posted By: VernMotor
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 06/13/08 02:04 AM
Wow thats realy nice ..
Posted By: cudadoug
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 06/13/08 07:06 PM
Oh my...KING Cuda is right! Bucky, that is KOOL!! Travis, YOU da man!!
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 06/13/08 10:33 PM
Good looking! How's it run?
Anyone know if "they" the charlie and charlie show did anything at Chicago?
Anyone know if "they" the charlie and charlie show did anything at Chicago?
Posted By: warfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 06/13/08 10:58 PM
11 3036 SS/AH Charlie Westcott, Parma MI, '68 Barracuda 8.703 9.80 -1.097
12 3651 SS/AH Charlie Westcott Jr., Parma MI, '68 Barrac 8.703 9.80 -1.097
26 304 SS/AH Jim Keyes, Durand MI, '68 Barracuda 8.838 9.80 -0.962
37 335 SS/AH Jeffrey Kobylski, Macomb Twshp MI, '68 Dart 8.953 9.80 -0.847
12 3651 SS/AH Charlie Westcott Jr., Parma MI, '68 Barrac 8.703 9.80 -1.097
26 304 SS/AH Jim Keyes, Durand MI, '68 Barracuda 8.838 9.80 -0.962
37 335 SS/AH Jeffrey Kobylski, Macomb Twshp MI, '68 Dart 8.953 9.80 -0.847
Posted By: Defbob
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 06/13/08 11:47 PM
Bucky's car is done. Are you scared
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 06/14/08 07:22 PM
Identical times???? hmmm...how did pops beat you jr?
Posted By: RedRT
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 06/14/08 09:49 PM
Nice photo of CW Jr, with CW Sr waiting in the wings, on DRC site.
Posted By: FASTFISH420
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 06/14/08 11:04 PM
This is kinda off the discussion,but I figured this would be the thread and the place to ask.but What would it cost to have a competative ss/ah car built these days?I am talking chassis,and a good competative engine program?
Posted By: willp
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 06/14/08 11:44 PM
Jeff from Modern Cylinder Head
Survived first round at Joliet
Survived first round at Joliet
Posted By: warfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 06/15/08 12:33 AM
Quote:
This is kinda off the discussion,but I figured this would be the thread and the place to ask.but What would it cost to have a competative ss/ah car built these days?I am talking chassis,and a good competative engine program?
you can have the winningest car ever,(mine) with a brand new engine for 160K.
cw
we elected to leave this morning, I sold the motor in my car, and have other things to do.
way to go in the bracket race
Posted By: bacaruda
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 06/15/08 12:48 AM
Where can you see qualifying order and elims. results from
today?
today?
Posted By: FASTFISH420
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 06/15/08 12:54 AM
160k seems to be a good deal for that car..being it's history.
Is there any others for sale?
Is there any others for sale?
Posted By: warfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 06/15/08 01:09 AM
http://dragracecentral.com/DRCStory.asp?ID=160764&Filter=30#indextop qualifying
http://dragracecentral.com/DRCStory.asp?ID=160912&Filter=30#indextop 1st rd
http://dragracecentral.com/DRCStory.asp?ID=160759&Filter=Year2008#indextop atco qual, more hemis at that race
http://dragracecentral.com/DRCStory.asp?ID=160912&Filter=30#indextop 1st rd
http://dragracecentral.com/DRCStory.asp?ID=160759&Filter=Year2008#indextop atco qual, more hemis at that race
Posted By: willp
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 06/15/08 01:23 AM
cw
What would it take to buy the car w/o motor?
Thanks
willp
What would it take to buy the car w/o motor?
Thanks
willp
Posted By: warfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 06/15/08 01:36 AM
car with 2 automatics, 5 convertors, and headers 90K. computer and all included, drop in the engine of your choice and go.
cw
cw
Posted By: willp
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 06/15/08 02:24 AM
Thanks for the reply.
Willp
Posted By: bacaruda
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 06/15/08 02:37 AM
Thanks,for the links. I went over there and could not figure out how you got to that info. I looked under PRESS, but I'll have to work on it.
Posted By: Phil Saran
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 06/15/08 03:31 AM
Charlies prices are very resonable.
You can NOT build a SS/AH car for $160K
You can NOT build a rolling chassis for
$90K
I believe Phil Mandella Racecars is up
to $130K for a roller now, give or take
a little.
You can NOT build a SS/AH car for $160K
You can NOT build a rolling chassis for
$90K
I believe Phil Mandella Racecars is up
to $130K for a roller now, give or take
a little.
Posted By: Ben Holt
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 06/15/08 04:01 AM
Sure you can build a roller for under $90K. Not saying that Charlie's car isn't a good deal, it is. The records and wins prove that tenfold....but it doesn't take $90K to build a winning roller. Check that, shouldn't take $90K....
Posted By: 68Fastback
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 06/15/08 06:08 AM
Bucky's new car is a Phil Mandella roller. Charlie's car is a great price with or without the motor considering it's winning history.
Jesse
Jesse
Quote:
Sure you can build a roller for under $90K. Not saying that Charlie's car isn't a good deal, it is. The records and wins prove that tenfold....but it doesn't take $90K to build a winning roller. Check that, shouldn't take $90K....
Posted By: FASTFISH420
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 06/15/08 02:06 PM
It's almost cheaper to build a nhra pro stock car these days than a ss/ah car.I was told it takes 250k for a good ah car...this is from starting from scatch..
Posted By: Ben Holt
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 06/15/08 02:15 PM
I know who built Bucky's car. And we built Jim Pancake's Dart, and have two more on the table being built. It shouldn't be 130K for a roller is all I'm saying....
Quote:
Bucky's new car is a Phil Mandella roller. Charlie's car is a great price with or without the motor considering it's winning history.
Jesse
Posted By: sshemifan
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 06/15/08 03:36 PM
Charlie,
If you can say, who bought the motor out of your car?
Regards, John
If you can say, who bought the motor out of your car?
Regards, John
Posted By: warfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 06/15/08 05:59 PM
what does a roller cost from you guys, ready to paint?
Posted By: Ben Holt
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 06/15/08 08:46 PM
Depends on a few things:
What parts you supply
How good of shape the car is in; i.e. how much resto work would we have to do
And how close to paint is close to paint.
The last car we did had 95% of the body work done and was in primer. And the interior/underpinnings were show quality.
And we supplied brakes, 3rd member, motor plates, battery holddowns, fire extinguisher, etc.
That was less than $90K.
I won't deluge actual numbers here, because that is my father's responsibility. But if you, or anyone for that matter, is interested in having us do one, we can easily come up with something close. And I think our performances speak for themselves!
BTW, does anyone know Pancake was in the big $ bracket race @ Indy this weekend? He was representing The Blankenships and the Classic banner, and apparently didn't do too bad against all the professionals!
Who says the Hemi guys don't know how to race!!:)
What parts you supply
How good of shape the car is in; i.e. how much resto work would we have to do
And how close to paint is close to paint.
The last car we did had 95% of the body work done and was in primer. And the interior/underpinnings were show quality.
And we supplied brakes, 3rd member, motor plates, battery holddowns, fire extinguisher, etc.
That was less than $90K.
I won't deluge actual numbers here, because that is my father's responsibility. But if you, or anyone for that matter, is interested in having us do one, we can easily come up with something close. And I think our performances speak for themselves!
BTW, does anyone know Pancake was in the big $ bracket race @ Indy this weekend? He was representing The Blankenships and the Classic banner, and apparently didn't do too bad against all the professionals!
Who says the Hemi guys don't know how to race!!:)
Posted By: pirate7411
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 06/15/08 11:05 PM
CA Duster,
Just curious as to where you got your numbers on Bucky's car, what a "little" is in the "give or take a little" and what you consider a "roller"?
Thanks, Pirate
Just curious as to where you got your numbers on Bucky's car, what a "little" is in the "give or take a little" and what you consider a "roller"?
Thanks, Pirate
Posted By: warfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 06/16/08 12:18 AM
I wasnt asking for me, I am happy with my guy. I was just making a point that you cant build a car, wire it, plumb it, paint, computer, tires wheels, test extensively, and get stainless headers, 2 pro-trans, 5 convertors, (20 K worth right there) for 90 K.
cw
cw
Posted By: mprrlz
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 06/16/08 02:27 AM
Has anybody heard how Pancake did @ Indy?
Posted By: cgall
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 06/16/08 06:37 PM
He lost 1st round in the 32K, don't know about the 16K, all they have posted is that Scott Richardson was the winner.
Seems to me Pancake is a "fish out of water" at that race.
Seems to me Pancake is a "fish out of water" at that race.
Posted By: moderncylinder
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 06/16/08 11:27 PM
i was thinking of seeing if there was/is any interest in trying to get a side hemi shootout going at a points race like the div 4 race at memphis, or the div 3 race in columbus,, though id rather see it at memphis. i think charlie organized one 3 years back at stanton,, maybe a 250.00 pay in from each driver,, then the pot gets split 75% to winner, 25% to runner up. its awhile off till indy,,, just though it might stir it up some,, if we could get 10-12 cars to commit to it,, id go,, id imagine joe and allen will be there,, ???
jeff
jeff
Posted By: warfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 06/17/08 12:42 AM
based on your track record of not paying your non-contingent awards (dutch 07') I think I will pass on anything you are involved in. If someone wants to race I would encourage going to a chrysler classic event. he told me that if 4 cars show up he will put some money up for us to race for. there is one at martin in a month or so, I would plan on that before another empty promise.
cw
cw
Posted By: moderncylinder
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 06/17/08 01:10 PM
charlie the guy from maple groove worded it wrong.. i told him i would pay anyone but you or your dad since you insulted me so much even when we were "friends"
id be in at martin,,, i thought memphis because the teutons were already going there. im sure i could get keyes to go,, so that would be two, both westcotts,, thats four,, maybe woo,, pancake,, need 6 more to commit,, then it would be a fun deal...
jeff
id be in at martin,,, i thought memphis because the teutons were already going there. im sure i could get keyes to go,, so that would be two, both westcotts,, thats four,, maybe woo,, pancake,, need 6 more to commit,, then it would be a fun deal...
jeff
Posted By: B G Racing
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 06/17/08 01:30 PM
If we could get at least a 10 car field for the Chrysler Classics we would be interested in helping the Blankenships with some pay out Dollars.
Posted By: dragonfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 06/18/08 11:07 AM
Is anyone else going to E-TOWN ? I know BUCKY, the WOLWITZ', BARTON and AL SMYTH(if his car is done,some ford guys building his new motors)are registered
Posted By: GOLDUST
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 06/18/08 09:47 PM
Quote:Port-a-tree will be there!and yea we are running a 428 scj...dare to be different!
Is anyone else going to E-TOWN ? I know BUCKY, the WOLWITZ', BARTON and AL SMYTH(if his car is done,some ford guys building his new motors)are registered
Posted By: JulieJordan
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 06/19/08 06:39 PM
What car is Barton driving at E-Town?
Posted By: S/SSJOHN
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 06/19/08 08:27 PM
Julie! Sure hope you get some good news on Jared! He's in our Prayers. As always John & Ginny Lang
Posted By: mr2performance
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 06/19/08 09:06 PM
mahans
Posted By: JulieJordan
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 06/19/08 11:47 PM
Quote:
Julie! Sure hope you get some good news on Jared! He's in our Prayers. As always John & Ginny Lang
Well we finally have an appointment at Stanford for...get this...July 11!! That's just the appointment to see the doctor, no surgery appointment yet. Unreal! His shoulder is still broke and we don't know what the issue is with his bones. He starts his final year of law school mid-August. It's a friggin' nightmare!! Thanks for your concern, John, much appreciated.
Posted By: 11secdart
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 06/21/08 11:11 AM
Went to E- Town Friday, Earthquake, Smyth and Bucky Win first round of S/S. Saw Buckys car up close in the sun , Man is it gorgeus !!!
Posted By: Defbob
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 06/21/08 01:18 PM
I stopped and talked to Bucky. Awesome guy, and superb car!!
Posted By: estcsthemi18
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 06/21/08 04:50 PM
Congrats to Travis and the Hess family on "Best Appearing" at E-town!
Posted By: j oliverio
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 06/21/08 06:10 PM
GREAT GOING TO BUCKEY AND TRAVIS!
Posted By: 11secdart
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 06/22/08 06:11 PM
Congrats to Bucky and Travis on another best appearing, I saw the car on Friday, the paint is simply unbelievable!
Posted By: warfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 06/22/08 11:52 PM
all we are talking about is his paint! I thought he made a pretty good run, no mention of that. what were the other runs he made, what was the speed, what did the other guys do, this is racing, not autorama.
cw
cw
Posted By: 11secdart
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 06/23/08 12:51 AM
CW ,we figured you`d be looking at all that on Drag Race Central like us. He qualified #5 with an 8.63, ran a 8.67 at 152.92 first round and a 8.67 at 152.78 second round.
Posted By: warfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 06/23/08 01:02 AM
I was loking at DRC, and I wasnt just talking to you, you were just the last post when I hit reply. There were a few people at the race, that are members, seems like we could get some news from the racetrack. We all know bucky and travis are some of the best painters, I would bet he was more satisfied that he got down the track than he was with the award we already knew he would win.
good job bucky, I was impressed with the qualifying position.
cw
good job bucky, I was impressed with the qualifying position.
cw
Posted By: 11secdart
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 06/23/08 01:05 AM
Good point , I was impressed by the fact that its only the second time out with the car and its running that good already.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 06/23/08 01:09 AM
thanks everyone...charlie is probably right.dad and phil seemed kinda frustrated last weekend.
Posted By: Defbob
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 06/23/08 10:52 AM
Quote:
I was loking at DRC, and I wasnt just talking to you, you were just the last post when I hit reply. There were a few people at the race, that are members, seems like we could get some news from the racetrack. We all know bucky and travis are some of the best painters, I would bet he was more satisfied that he got down the track than he was with the award we already knew he would win.
good job bucky, I was impressed with the qualifying position.
cw
, how come you weren't there??
Posted By: warfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 06/23/08 11:42 AM
no reason to go, spend 1000 on fuel to go to a bracket race, no thanks. I am working on customer stuff right now that pays alot better. besides I dont have an engine together for my car yet.
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 06/23/08 07:44 PM
Posted By: warfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 06/24/08 01:02 AM
Quote:
how about David looks like he picked up 70 horse from atco.
I noticed that, that would be 1 HP per additional cubic inch.
Posted By: StewartP
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 06/24/08 01:25 AM
500 inches ???
Posted By: HEMI472
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 06/24/08 03:16 AM
david who?
Posted By: YbNoRmAL
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 06/24/08 11:19 AM
Quote:That be David Barton.
david who?
Posted By: Defbob
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 06/25/08 11:29 AM
Quote:Quote:
how about David looks like he picked up 70 horse from atco.
I noticed that, that would be 1 HP per additional cubic inch.
probably the next Dodge Boy
Posted By: moderncylinder
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 06/25/08 05:36 PM
congrats to bucky and david for running well,,, to assume that barton has a bigger than legal motor or is cheating somehow is stupid,, those guys have been doing this ss/aa racing for longer than anyone.....
good job
jeff
good job
jeff
Posted By: j oliverio
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 06/25/08 10:21 PM
I agree!
Posted By: Defbob
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 06/26/08 12:12 AM
I know they wouldn't cheat. I've just been wanting to make a reference joke about the dodge boys for a long time.
Posted By: cudadoug
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 06/26/08 03:00 AM
Quote:
I know they wouldn't cheat. I've just been wanting to make a reference joke about the dodge boys for a long time.
At the risk of
, it seems the Dodge Boys WERE a joke!!
Posted By: 68Fastback
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 06/26/08 06:14 AM
My gosh I would never expect a Moderator on a Mopar site to stir the pot like this with unproven stuff that has been passed around forever and always causes heated posts on here, especially against a team that for a long time was the only shining light Mopar had. Or maybe I am out of line.
Quote:
I know they wouldn't cheat. I've just been wanting to make a reference joke about the dodge boys for a long time.
Posted By: moderncylinder
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 06/26/08 01:27 PM
i know you were just joking,,, my comments were more directed to the bigger motor coment,, which he could have been joking too,, i was just saying they ran well,,, and im sure they are 100% legit,, plus its only cheating till you get caught...
jeff
jeff
Posted By: warfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 06/26/08 06:02 PM
It was a joke, I am sure they have picked up 2 tenths from where they have been for the last several years, and I look forward to seeing the same "pick-up" from the earthquakers, daniels, and pancake. looks like we need to get to work. I have been accused of cheating as well, I always took it as a compliment. If you are doing well, people get suspisious, if you are going 90's, noone will suspect anything.
cw
cw
Posted By: RedRT
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 06/27/08 12:56 AM
There is a good article about Bob and Gary Wolkwitz on the DRC site. Written by Bob Frey.
At Norwalk
Bucky Hess #16 8.852
Jim Pancaake #49 9.152
At Norwalk
Bucky Hess #16 8.852
Jim Pancaake #49 9.152
Posted By: cgall
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 06/27/08 01:34 PM
Posted By: warfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 06/28/08 01:12 PM
I'm gonna go out on a limb here, bucky will win the norwalk race.
cw
cw
Posted By: Ben Holt
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 06/28/08 01:37 PM
The dude is awesome!! Beating Craig and Bertozzi???? Who says these hemi guys can't bracket race!!
Posted By: Defbob
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 06/28/08 01:42 PM
only one can't
Posted By: Ben Holt
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 06/28/08 03:51 PM
Bucky got knocked out 4th round @ Norwalk. Nice work, Bucky!
Posted By: sshemifan
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 06/28/08 11:14 PM
Nice job Bucky, glad to see the new car is working well---looking fantastic as well!!!Regards, John
Posted By: 733404spdCuda
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 06/29/08 01:21 AM
A few pics of his car from today... Very cool!!
Posted By: 733404spdCuda
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 06/29/08 01:21 AM
2nd
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 06/29/08 01:25 AM
Come on 2 compliments are you getting soft.Pancake said he could run with David.I like to bracket race.a.002 and 2, .019 lites not bad for a 50 year old footbraker.
2 compliments are you getting soft.Pancake said he could run with David.I like to bracket race.a.002 and 2, .019 lites not bad for a 50 year old footbraker.
Posted By: 733404spdCuda
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 06/29/08 01:32 AM
Bucky your paint is a work of art... its cool to see a mopar run with all of the chevy boys
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 06/29/08 01:56 AM
Heres why don't like to bracket race i lost at my 1st race with the new car with a .028 lite the2nd race lost with a .024 lite and today with a .019 lite.How about you do you like to bracket race?
don't like to bracket race i lost at my 1st race with the new car with a .028 lite the2nd race lost with a .024 lite and today with a .019 lite.How about you do you like to bracket race?
Posted By: j oliverio
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 06/29/08 01:29 PM
Great showing Bucky! Car is a beauty. Your friends at the WV HILLBILLY
Posted By: sunroofgtx
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 06/30/08 12:42 PM
Bucky, I was hovering around the trailer Fri afternoon . Trying to find ya.It was all closed up. Congrats on your rounds. I was over in Pancakes trailer also. When is your next Mopar race , over in Ohio. Thanks, hope to meet you soon.
Posted By: moderncylinder
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 07/01/08 01:27 PM
bucky i do like to bracket race,, its a new challenge and i like racing the car,, im having fun.. i dont think i would enter into a national race that did not race class or have a hemi thing going on,, but at this point im not a good bracket racer, if i was and i was looking to get into the top 10 in my division or something then maybe i would. right now ill take any and all runs i can get so that i can get comfortable in the car and try to learn as much as possible every time i go out racing. it isnt common to have a hemi car going far into eliminations though,, you and little joe probably do the best with it, charlie probably could as well though he isnt interested in anything but heads up and trying to outrun everyone on the planet so that he can sell parts to everybody and make money.
peace out,,, jeff
peace out,,, jeff
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 07/01/08 03:35 PM
I just love that icon nothing personal.There are alot of very good hemi drivers.I guess just the maintenance keeps alot of them from bracket racing.But you sometime dont get the opportunity to have a nat event track either. But as of late they dont worry about them until the pros run.I couldnt hook norwalk till friday.But my goal is to win one of those big trophys.I dont know if it will ever happen but im trying. What do you think ?
Posted By: Jared_Jordan
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 07/01/08 04:38 PM
Almost seems to me that trying to bracket race one of those cars is a seriously futile effort. All the SS/AH owners/drivers run their cars on "kill" all the time. Makes it pretty tough to try and hook one up in the later rounds when the track goes away. The way I see it, the only way someone is going to be able to bracket race one competitively is to either a) back the car way down which no one wants to do or b) dial for spin and practice your finish line fender racing, but even that's next to impossible because spin effects RT and you never know when the car will or won't hook.
A lot of the SS/Modified cars win races and, though they run similar ET's, they don't make anywhere near the TQ these Race Hemi's make. Let's face facts: if you're not driving a car off the trans-brake and can go .030 or better every round and the car will hook up in water....the odds are definitely stacked against you.
A lot of the SS/Modified cars win races and, though they run similar ET's, they don't make anywhere near the TQ these Race Hemi's make. Let's face facts: if you're not driving a car off the trans-brake and can go .030 or better every round and the car will hook up in water....the odds are definitely stacked against you.
Posted By: JulieJordan
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 07/01/08 07:58 PM
The SS/AH class average was -1.003 for the AHFS reporting period. Index has been lowered to 9.75.
Posted By: SCATPACK 1
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 07/01/08 10:13 PM
Quote:
The SS/AH class average was -1.003 for the AHFS reporting period. Index has been lowered to 9.75.
SO I think I already know the answer, but by any chance did they lower the index for those Chevy guys that were running 1.5 under their index? Doubt it, some Chevy spectator/fan might not show up with his $5.00 for a ticket.
Posted By: moderncylinder
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 07/02/08 01:19 AM
well julie,,, i did my best to try to bring the average down..
Posted By: JulieJordan
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 07/02/08 01:31 AM
Quote:
well julie,,, i did my best to try to bring the average down..
Ha ha! It's only qualifying postions, anyway. Sounds like you're having fun, Jeff. That's cool. Keep at it.
Posted By: moderncylinder
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 07/03/08 06:28 PM
entry list to indy so far....
138 SS/AH Wendell Howes Rathesay NB '68 Barracuda Dodg 426 HOWES RACING
205 SS/AH John Gifford Naples FL '68 Barracuda Chry 426 JOHN GIFFORD RACE CARS
304 SS/AH James Keyes Durand MI '68 Barracuda Plym 426 KEYES & LEWIS CUDA
335 SS/AH Jeffrey Kobylski Macomb Township MI '68 Dodge Dodg 426 MODERN CYLINDER HEAD
350 SS/AH Jim Pancake Delaware OH '68 Dart Dodg 426 CARRIAGE TOWNE CDJ INC.
364 SS/AH Tony De Pillo Dayton OH '68 Plymouth HEMI 426 HUTTON RACING
452 SS/AH Steven Kent Lottie LA '69 Barracuda Chry 426 KENT SERVICES & TRUCKING
720 SS/AH Dave Raybourn Modesto CA '68 Barracuda Plym 426 TCB INDUSTRIAL/AMERICAN META
721 SS/AH Rick Houser Pasadena CA '68 Barracuda Chry 426 CALIFORNIA CAR DUSTER HEMI
1145 SS/AH Steve Welker Tower City PA '68 Barracuda Plym 426 WELKER RACING ENT
1381 SS/AH Mark Howes Rothesay NB '68 Dart Dodg 426 HOWES RACING
1517 SS/AH Melvin Daniels Yardley PA '68 Dart MOPR 426 RAY BARTON RACING ENGINES
1798 SS/AH Bucky Hess II Bunker Hill WV '68 Barracuda Plym 426 BUCKYS LTD AUTOBODY INC
1945 SS/AH Gary Wolkwitz Annandale NJ '68 Dodge Dodg 426 EARTHQUAKE
1960 SS/AH Al Smyth III Uxbridge MA '68 Barracuda Plym 426 PORTATREE
1968 SS/AH Chuck Comella Sanibel FL '68 Dart Dodg 426 ISLAND HEMI
1990 SS/AH David Barton Robesonia PA '68 Barracuda Plym 426 MAHAN & BARTON RACING
2354 SS/AH Bill Brooks Kissimmee FL '68 Barracuda Plym 426 ---
3036 SS/AH Charlie Westcott Parma MI '68 Austin Healy HD 426 JACKSON DRYWALL
3392 SS/AH William Bales Connersville IN '68 Barracuda Chry 426 SS/AH
3410 SS/AH Randall Warford Nashville IN '68 Barracuda Plym 426 WARFORD MOTORSPORTS
3426 SS/AH Darrell Marvel Big Rapids MI '68 Barracuda Plym 426 MARCO DODGE/INTOON RACING
3500 SS/AH Larry Woo Birmingham MI '68 Barracuda Chry 426 HAUGH & WOO / COLOR MATRIX
3651 SS/AH Charlie Westcott Jr Parma MI '68 Barracuda Cad 426 WAR FISH
4426 SS/AH Joe Teuton III Schriever LA '68
Plymouth Plym 426 SOUTHLAND DODGE & INTL
4446 SS/AH J Allen Sherman Donaldsonville LA '68 Barracuda Chry 426 SOUTHLAND PERFORMANCE
5333 SS/AH Randy Hopkins Scandia MN '68 Barracuda Plym 426 HALE PERFORMANCE
799J SS/AH John Rains Santa Paula CA '68 Dart Dodg 426 JOHN RAINS HELI HEMI
i cant get in till the day after the stanton points race,,, hopefully i still can.
jeff
138 SS/AH Wendell Howes Rathesay NB '68 Barracuda Dodg 426 HOWES RACING
205 SS/AH John Gifford Naples FL '68 Barracuda Chry 426 JOHN GIFFORD RACE CARS
304 SS/AH James Keyes Durand MI '68 Barracuda Plym 426 KEYES & LEWIS CUDA
335 SS/AH Jeffrey Kobylski Macomb Township MI '68 Dodge Dodg 426 MODERN CYLINDER HEAD
350 SS/AH Jim Pancake Delaware OH '68 Dart Dodg 426 CARRIAGE TOWNE CDJ INC.
364 SS/AH Tony De Pillo Dayton OH '68 Plymouth HEMI 426 HUTTON RACING
452 SS/AH Steven Kent Lottie LA '69 Barracuda Chry 426 KENT SERVICES & TRUCKING
720 SS/AH Dave Raybourn Modesto CA '68 Barracuda Plym 426 TCB INDUSTRIAL/AMERICAN META
721 SS/AH Rick Houser Pasadena CA '68 Barracuda Chry 426 CALIFORNIA CAR DUSTER HEMI
1145 SS/AH Steve Welker Tower City PA '68 Barracuda Plym 426 WELKER RACING ENT
1381 SS/AH Mark Howes Rothesay NB '68 Dart Dodg 426 HOWES RACING
1517 SS/AH Melvin Daniels Yardley PA '68 Dart MOPR 426 RAY BARTON RACING ENGINES
1798 SS/AH Bucky Hess II Bunker Hill WV '68 Barracuda Plym 426 BUCKYS LTD AUTOBODY INC
1945 SS/AH Gary Wolkwitz Annandale NJ '68 Dodge Dodg 426 EARTHQUAKE
1960 SS/AH Al Smyth III Uxbridge MA '68 Barracuda Plym 426 PORTATREE
1968 SS/AH Chuck Comella Sanibel FL '68 Dart Dodg 426 ISLAND HEMI
1990 SS/AH David Barton Robesonia PA '68 Barracuda Plym 426 MAHAN & BARTON RACING
2354 SS/AH Bill Brooks Kissimmee FL '68 Barracuda Plym 426 ---
3036 SS/AH Charlie Westcott Parma MI '68 Austin Healy HD 426 JACKSON DRYWALL
3392 SS/AH William Bales Connersville IN '68 Barracuda Chry 426 SS/AH
3410 SS/AH Randall Warford Nashville IN '68 Barracuda Plym 426 WARFORD MOTORSPORTS
3426 SS/AH Darrell Marvel Big Rapids MI '68 Barracuda Plym 426 MARCO DODGE/INTOON RACING
3500 SS/AH Larry Woo Birmingham MI '68 Barracuda Chry 426 HAUGH & WOO / COLOR MATRIX
3651 SS/AH Charlie Westcott Jr Parma MI '68 Barracuda Cad 426 WAR FISH
4426 SS/AH Joe Teuton III Schriever LA '68
Plymouth Plym 426 SOUTHLAND DODGE & INTL
4446 SS/AH J Allen Sherman Donaldsonville LA '68 Barracuda Chry 426 SOUTHLAND PERFORMANCE
5333 SS/AH Randy Hopkins Scandia MN '68 Barracuda Plym 426 HALE PERFORMANCE
799J SS/AH John Rains Santa Paula CA '68 Dart Dodg 426 JOHN RAINS HELI HEMI
i cant get in till the day after the stanton points race,,, hopefully i still can.
jeff
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 07/03/08 08:42 PM
ah wescott is trying out the new harley davidson powered austin healy, its a bold move hope it pays off for him
casey
casey
Posted By: dragonfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 07/04/08 02:41 PM
Does anyone know if Randy Warford is going to be there???
Posted By: warfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 07/04/08 08:32 PM
he should be, their motor is ready to pick up.
cw
cw
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 07/10/08 01:51 PM
I don't see you on the list yet ,How are you goin to get the Nice to see some new guys.Are any your customers .Me and Travis were invited to the York Reunion this weekend,if anyone wants to see some fast spit and shine
Posted By: moderncylinder
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 07/10/08 07:41 PM
bucky,, i cant get in yet,, im at a grade 4,, im hoping that i goto stanton and get my 5th,, and then enter on monday..
jeff
jeff
Posted By: dragonfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 07/10/08 11:36 PM
Are you going to the reunion? and if so are u bringing KING KUDA II? i'll be there fri. evening, it's about 5 min. from my house.
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 07/11/08 12:45 PM
I hope you make it.The more the better.Looks like there are some new cars.How about that gold and black car and the silver bullet,I'm sorry but the real silver bullet is Bob Reed.Can't wait to see vs. .And yes we took Travis and my car to york last nite.We are goin back sat evening after Carlisle.
Posted By: moderncylinder
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 07/11/08 01:53 PM
well bucky before the match up with charlie and i could happen i need to get my stuff sorted out,, i hope it happens by indy but who knows,, charlie has been racing his combo/car for what 4 years now. i am working on my stuff right now and am up enough power to run 2.5-3mph more than i did and have alot more torque but thats not where i need to be,,, i need 6mph from where i was. and the guy to beat,, i think,,, is that new king kuda car,, if you hook it up unlike last year with your other car.
jeff
jeff
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 07/11/08 03:15 PM
No problem , M/T
, M/T
Posted By: YbNoRmAL
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 07/12/08 01:48 AM
Really Bullet Bob is Bullet Bob. His cars was always black till the early eighties and he was Bullet Bob, and still is, just Bullet no silver. The Real Silver Bullet was Jimmy Addison's 67 GTX from the Motor City, That's my
Hey Bucky this was cool, I went to church camp this week in southern Indiana with a bunch of high school kids, 140 I think. I helped set up all these wild extreme games they played through the week. When I was packing I got out my favorite T shirts, the ones I only wear for special occasions , ya know? They all was wanting my shirt with your white/ yellow flamed, Indy shootout winning car. I told 'em if they liked the shirt, they would of loved the car.
Hey Bucky this was cool, I went to church camp this week in southern Indiana with a bunch of high school kids, 140 I think. I helped set up all these wild extreme games they played through the week. When I was packing I got out my favorite T shirts, the ones I only wear for special occasions , ya know? They all was wanting my shirt with your white/ yellow flamed, Indy shootout winning car. I told 'em if they liked the shirt, they would of loved the car.
Posted By: dragonfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 07/12/08 07:55 PM
There were 4 SS/AH cars at the YORK REUNION, buckys KING KUDA II, the SOX&MARTIN car BOB REED built for RONNIE SOX to race , the MR.MOTEC car(will be at indy)and an original b029 car ,white on top, silver on the bottom, with the name TROXELL (i think), on the side glass
Posted By: mr_340
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 07/13/08 01:45 AM
Speaking of Bullet Bob, has anyone heard of a guy named Benny DeFlavis (sp?)? He was doing Hemi heads for Bob when Bob owned the records and I seem to remember seeing his decal on one of Teuton's cars (White '64 Plymouth if I remember right). This was circa 1990 or so.
Posted By: B5 Bee
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 07/13/08 04:17 AM
PM sent about Benny DeFlavis.
Posted By: sshemifan
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 07/13/08 09:37 AM
Anyone know what the story is with Larry Woo----Has he run anywhere this year???
Regards, John
Regards, John
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 07/14/08 03:42 PM
did you bracket race sat?Where was .........
Posted By: moderncylinder
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 07/14/08 06:27 PM
i experienced technical difficulties
Posted By: warfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 07/14/08 08:55 PM
Quote:
I bracket raced on sunday to get another run. I ran a little better relative to everyone else. I have the motor on a stand now, ready to try a few things. We put dads engine on the dyno when we got home last night, it was fine. We are going to change some things around and go to the chrysler classic at 131 dragway this weekend.
cw
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 07/14/08 10:39 PM
Looked like you ran pretty good, better speed or the same.what happened to tech diff?
Posted By: warfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 07/15/08 02:04 AM
Quote:
I went 150 in qualifying, 1st rd I went 151.80, 2nd rd I was +1 mph in the 1/8th @ 123.86, then I lifted cause I didnt know I redlighted and went a 73 @ 147.
I hope MCH can make the chrysler classic this weekend so the guy can have a few cars show up.
him and keys would make at least 4 cars
cw
Posted By: warfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 07/16/08 02:19 AM
Attention hemi racers using JESEL rockers, I have my new spring pressure testing tool done. Should be able to ship them next week. Also check out the spring changing tool.
just click on the website link, its on the front page.
cw
just click on the website link, its on the front page.
cw
Posted By: sshemifan
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 07/20/08 03:31 AM
Hello, is there anybody out there???????? Post sure has been quiet!!! Does anyone know what the story is with Larry Woo and Fred Henson--haven't heard a word about them this year, or I've just totally missed it!!!
Regards, John
Post sure has been quiet!!! Does anyone know what the story is with Larry Woo and Fred Henson--haven't heard a word about them this year, or I've just totally missed it!!! Regards, John
Posted By: YbNoRmAL
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 07/20/08 10:53 AM
Quote:I noticed they are not on the entry list for Indy either.
Hello, is there anybody out there????????
Regards, John
Posted By: mr2performance
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 07/20/08 01:02 PM
woo is entered, henson had trouble getting his nhra liscense renewed Mike
Posted By: Chris2581
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 07/20/08 02:21 PM
What's up with the Gold Coast 'Cuda???
Posted By: moderncylinder
curent indy entry list - 07/20/08 04:55 PM
138 SS/AH Wendell Howes Rathesay NB '68 Barracuda Dodg 426 HOWES RACING
205 SS/AH John Gifford Naples FL '68 Barracuda Chry 426 JOHN GIFFORD RACE CARS
304 SS/AH James Keyes Durand MI '68 Barracuda Plym 426 KEYES & LEWIS CUDA
335 SS/AH Jeffrey Kobylski Macomb Township MI '68 Dodge Dodg 426 MODERN CYLINDER HEAD
350 SS/AH Jim Pancake Delaware OH '68 Dart Dodg 426 CARRIAGE TOWNE CDJ INC.
364 SS/AH Tony De Pillo Dayton OH '68 Plymouth HEMI 426 HUTTON RACING
452 SS/AH Steven Kent Lottie LA '69 Barracuda Chry 426 KENT SERVICES & TRUCKING
720 SS/AH Dave Raybourn Modesto CA '68 Barracuda Plym 426 TCB INDUSTRIAL/AMERICAN META
721 SS/AH Rick Houser Pasadena CA '68 Barracuda Chry 426 CALIFORNIA CAR DUSTER HEMI
1145 SS/AH Steve Welker Tower City PA '68 Barracuda Plym 426 WELKER RACING ENT
1381 SS/AH Mark Howes Rothesay NB '68 Dart Dodg 426 HOWES RACING
1517 SS/AH Melvin Daniels Yardley PA '68 Dart MOPR 426 RAY BARTON RACING ENGINES
1798 SS/AH Bucky Hess II Bunker Hill WV '68 Barracuda Plym 426 BUCKYS LTD AUTOBODY INC
1945 SS/AH Gary Wolkwitz Annandale NJ '68 Dodge Dodg 426 EARTHQUAKE
1960 SS/AH Al Smyth III Uxbridge MA '68 Barracuda Plym 426 PORTATREE
1968 SS/AH Chuck Comella Sanibel FL '68 Dart Dodg 426 ISLAND HEMI
1990 SS/AH David Barton Robesonia PA '68 Barracuda Plym 426 MAHAN & BARTON RACING
2354 SS/AH Bill Brooks Kissimmee FL '68 Barracuda Plym 426 ---
3036 SS/AH Charlie Westcott Parma MI '68 Austin Healy HD 426 JACKSON DRYWALL
3392 SS/AH William Bales Connersville IN '68 Barracuda Chry 426 SS/AH
3410 SS/AH Randall Warford Nashville IN '68 Barracuda Plym 426 WARFORD MOTORSPORTS
3426 SS/AH Darrell Marvel Big Rapids MI '68 Barracuda Plym 426 MARCO DODGE/INTOON RACING
3500 SS/AH Larry Woo Birmingham MI '68 Barracuda Chry 426 HAUGH & WOO / COLOR MATRIX
3651 SS/AH Charlie Westcott Jr Parma MI '68 Barracuda Cad 426 WAR FISH
4426 SS/AH Joe Teuton III Schriever LA '68
Plymouth Plym 426 SOUTHLAND DODGE & INTL
4446 SS/AH J Allen Sherman Donaldsonville LA '68 Barracuda Chry 426 SOUTHLAND PERFORMANCE
5333 SS/AH Randy Hopkins Scandia MN '68 Barracuda Plym 426 HALE PERFORMANCE
799J SS/AH John Rains Santa Paula CA '68 Dart Dodg 426 JOHN RAINS HELI HEMI
205 SS/AH John Gifford Naples FL '68 Barracuda Chry 426 JOHN GIFFORD RACE CARS
304 SS/AH James Keyes Durand MI '68 Barracuda Plym 426 KEYES & LEWIS CUDA
335 SS/AH Jeffrey Kobylski Macomb Township MI '68 Dodge Dodg 426 MODERN CYLINDER HEAD
350 SS/AH Jim Pancake Delaware OH '68 Dart Dodg 426 CARRIAGE TOWNE CDJ INC.
364 SS/AH Tony De Pillo Dayton OH '68 Plymouth HEMI 426 HUTTON RACING
452 SS/AH Steven Kent Lottie LA '69 Barracuda Chry 426 KENT SERVICES & TRUCKING
720 SS/AH Dave Raybourn Modesto CA '68 Barracuda Plym 426 TCB INDUSTRIAL/AMERICAN META
721 SS/AH Rick Houser Pasadena CA '68 Barracuda Chry 426 CALIFORNIA CAR DUSTER HEMI
1145 SS/AH Steve Welker Tower City PA '68 Barracuda Plym 426 WELKER RACING ENT
1381 SS/AH Mark Howes Rothesay NB '68 Dart Dodg 426 HOWES RACING
1517 SS/AH Melvin Daniels Yardley PA '68 Dart MOPR 426 RAY BARTON RACING ENGINES
1798 SS/AH Bucky Hess II Bunker Hill WV '68 Barracuda Plym 426 BUCKYS LTD AUTOBODY INC
1945 SS/AH Gary Wolkwitz Annandale NJ '68 Dodge Dodg 426 EARTHQUAKE
1960 SS/AH Al Smyth III Uxbridge MA '68 Barracuda Plym 426 PORTATREE
1968 SS/AH Chuck Comella Sanibel FL '68 Dart Dodg 426 ISLAND HEMI
1990 SS/AH David Barton Robesonia PA '68 Barracuda Plym 426 MAHAN & BARTON RACING
2354 SS/AH Bill Brooks Kissimmee FL '68 Barracuda Plym 426 ---
3036 SS/AH Charlie Westcott Parma MI '68 Austin Healy HD 426 JACKSON DRYWALL
3392 SS/AH William Bales Connersville IN '68 Barracuda Chry 426 SS/AH
3410 SS/AH Randall Warford Nashville IN '68 Barracuda Plym 426 WARFORD MOTORSPORTS
3426 SS/AH Darrell Marvel Big Rapids MI '68 Barracuda Plym 426 MARCO DODGE/INTOON RACING
3500 SS/AH Larry Woo Birmingham MI '68 Barracuda Chry 426 HAUGH & WOO / COLOR MATRIX
3651 SS/AH Charlie Westcott Jr Parma MI '68 Barracuda Cad 426 WAR FISH
4426 SS/AH Joe Teuton III Schriever LA '68
Plymouth Plym 426 SOUTHLAND DODGE & INTL
4446 SS/AH J Allen Sherman Donaldsonville LA '68 Barracuda Chry 426 SOUTHLAND PERFORMANCE
5333 SS/AH Randy Hopkins Scandia MN '68 Barracuda Plym 426 HALE PERFORMANCE
799J SS/AH John Rains Santa Paula CA '68 Dart Dodg 426 JOHN RAINS HELI HEMI
Posted By: sunroofgtx
Re: curent indy entry list - 07/20/08 05:02 PM
Nice to see the Woo team in. Looks like a great turnout. Good luck Everyone !!
Posted By: Dyno1
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 07/20/08 09:08 PM
Gold Coast Hemi is getting closer. Dyno'ed the engine last week, made good power for what is in it. I ran the fuel and brake lines last week and bleed the brakes on Saturday. Need to wire and final assemble. Hope to be out by the middle of August. Tip to anyone thinking of building a new car, it will take twice as long and 3 times as expensive as you think. See everyone at the track. Dyno
Posted By: Chris2581
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 07/20/08 09:34 PM
Can't wait to see it Dan,looks like a awesome piece!!
Posted By: Defbob
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 07/20/08 09:42 PM
Dyno1, I notice you have the rear of your car higher than most others have been setting theirs to. Or are you waiting to set the chassis until all of the weight is in the car?
Posted By: Dyno1
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 07/20/08 10:12 PM
There was not any weight (batteries, fuel cell etc.) in the rear when the picture was taken. After the driveline is in, we will see if the springs are OK or if a lighter spring or height adjustment is needed. Working everyday on it. Dyno
Posted By: S/ST 3040
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 07/21/08 02:31 AM
Martin Friday.
Posted By: Troy
Re: curent indy entry list - 07/21/08 03:39 PM
Quote:
138 SS/AH Wendell Howes Rathesay NB '68 Barracuda Dodg 426 HOWES RACING
205 SS/AH John Gifford Naples FL '68 Barracuda Chry 426 JOHN GIFFORD RACE CARS
304 SS/AH James Keyes Durand MI '68 Barracuda Plym 426 KEYES & LEWIS CUDA
335 SS/AH Jeffrey Kobylski Macomb Township MI '68 Dodge Dodg 426 MODERN CYLINDER HEAD
350 SS/AH Jim Pancake Delaware OH '68 Dart Dodg 426 CARRIAGE TOWNE CDJ INC.
364 SS/AH Tony De Pillo Dayton OH '68 Plymouth HEMI 426 HUTTON RACING
452 SS/AH Steven Kent Lottie LA '69 Barracuda Chry 426 KENT SERVICES & TRUCKING
720 SS/AH Dave Raybourn Modesto CA '68 Barracuda Plym 426 TCB INDUSTRIAL/AMERICAN META
721 SS/AH Rick Houser Pasadena CA '68 Barracuda Chry 426 CALIFORNIA CAR DUSTER HEMI
1145 SS/AH Steve Welker Tower City PA '68 Barracuda Plym 426 WELKER RACING ENT
1381 SS/AH Mark Howes Rothesay NB '68 Dart Dodg 426 HOWES RACING
1517 SS/AH Melvin Daniels Yardley PA '68 Dart MOPR 426 RAY BARTON RACING ENGINES
1798 SS/AH Bucky Hess II Bunker Hill WV '68 Barracuda Plym 426 BUCKYS LTD AUTOBODY INC
1945 SS/AH Gary Wolkwitz Annandale NJ '68 Dodge Dodg 426 EARTHQUAKE
1960 SS/AH Al Smyth III Uxbridge MA '68 Barracuda Plym 426 PORTATREE
1968 SS/AH Chuck Comella Sanibel FL '68 Dart Dodg 426 ISLAND HEMI
1990 SS/AH David Barton Robesonia PA '68 Barracuda Plym 426 MAHAN & BARTON RACING
2354 SS/AH Bill Brooks Kissimmee FL '68 Barracuda Plym 426 ---
3036 SS/AH Charlie Westcott Parma MI '68 Austin Healy HD 426 JACKSON DRYWALL
3392 SS/AH William Bales Connersville IN '68 Barracuda Chry 426 SS/AH
3410 SS/AH Randall Warford Nashville IN '68 Barracuda Plym 426 WARFORD MOTORSPORTS
3426 SS/AH Darrell Marvel Big Rapids MI '68 Barracuda Plym 426 MARCO DODGE/INTOON RACING
3500 SS/AH Larry Woo Birmingham MI '68 Barracuda Chry 426 HAUGH & WOO / COLOR MATRIX
3651 SS/AH Charlie Westcott Jr Parma MI '68 Barracuda Cad 426 WAR FISH
4426 SS/AH Joe Teuton III Schriever LA '68
Plymouth Plym 426 SOUTHLAND DODGE & INTL
4446 SS/AH J Allen Sherman Donaldsonville LA '68 Barracuda Chry 426 SOUTHLAND PERFORMANCE
5333 SS/AH Randy Hopkins Scandia MN '68 Barracuda Plym 426 HALE PERFORMANCE
799J SS/AH John Rains Santa Paula CA '68 Dart Dodg 426 JOHN RAINS HELI HEMI
That is a LOOOONNNNGGGGG list!! That will be something to see!!
Posted By: warfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 07/22/08 03:03 PM
we are back at martin, they are testing some pro stock cars today, panella, and rick jones. it looks nice out, no more rain.
cw
cw
Posted By: ASA1711
Re: curent indy entry list - 07/22/08 07:22 PM
It's good to see the Woo car back.
Whatever happened to the Sox & Martin "tribute" car to be campaigned by Buddy Martin and Monte Bailey?
Whatever happened to the Sox & Martin "tribute" car to be campaigned by Buddy Martin and Monte Bailey?
Posted By: warfish
Re: curent indy entry list - 07/23/08 01:51 AM
Quote:
It's good to see the Woo car back.
Whatever happened to the Sox & Martin "tribute" car to be campaigned by Buddy Martin and Monte Bailey?
Bob jr. told me that the car is in the trim shop, they dont have a motor done yet.
RJ went .75 @ 202
Bob went .79 @ 203
dad went .74 @ 155
cw
Posted By: J_BODY
Re: curent indy entry list - 07/23/08 02:38 AM
Noted that fender cover in that picture . I KNEW you cared about the paint!!
. I KNEW you cared about the paint!!
Posted By: 68Fastback
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 07/24/08 08:24 PM
Gonna try this again, I am sure many of you know about West Coast Hemis Jared Jordan, here is some good news Julie posted on Maries site.
http://members3.boardhost.com/mariet327/msg/1216334236.html
http://members3.boardhost.com/mariet327/msg/1216334236.html
Posted By: PUNK
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 07/24/08 10:56 PM
Bob Mazzolinis Cuda will finally be back in action. He finally finished his engine and it is Dynoed and ready for some racing. He has been buried at work and hasnt had the time to get his Hotrod back to the track. Ran good on the dyno. Now to see how the numbers run at the track.
Posted By: warfish
Re: curent indy entry list - 07/25/08 05:35 PM
HE'S BACK, he left when he hit the gas cause the trans brake didnt work. 149mph I heard the others were 147, 143, 143, in that order.
39 3500 SS/AH Larry Woo, Birmingham MI, '68 Barracuda 8.877 9.75 -0.873
50 350 SS/AH Jim Pancake, Delaware OH, '68 Dart 8.990 9.75 -0.760
69 335 SS/AH Jeffrey Knoblock, Macomb Twshp MI, '68 Dart 9.125 9.75 -0.625
71 342 SS/AH Harold Leiter Jr., Troy OH, '68 Dart 9.136 9.75 -0.614
columbus divisional results
http://dragracecentral.com/DRCStory.asp?ID=164430&Filter=30#indextop
39 3500 SS/AH Larry Woo, Birmingham MI, '68 Barracuda 8.877 9.75 -0.873
50 350 SS/AH Jim Pancake, Delaware OH, '68 Dart 8.990 9.75 -0.760
69 335 SS/AH Jeffrey Knoblock, Macomb Twshp MI, '68 Dart 9.125 9.75 -0.625
71 342 SS/AH Harold Leiter Jr., Troy OH, '68 Dart 9.136 9.75 -0.614
columbus divisional results
http://dragracecentral.com/DRCStory.asp?ID=164430&Filter=30#indextop
Posted By: VernMotor
Re: curent indy entry list - 07/25/08 09:40 PM
Posted By: moderncylinder
Re: curent indy entry list - 07/28/08 01:32 PM
charlie,, woo ran 150.2, i ran 147.8, pancake ran a high 146, leiter ran 143. i spun every run, went 1.31 60ft when pancake ran 8.97, woo ran 8.86, i ran 9.07. i had a fun weekend, jsut have to work on it to try to get the tire spin thing out, plus it was spinning on bias ply tires.
my name is spelled KOBYLSKI charlie,, you copied and pasted off drag race central then went in and changed my last name????
my name is spelled KOBYLSKI charlie,, you copied and pasted off drag race central then went in and changed my last name????
Posted By: warfish
Re: curent indy entry list - 07/28/08 04:29 PM
sounds like you have it all figured out, see ya in a few weeks!
we are renting stanton this week, probably thursday. rains will be here momentarily. if you want to try to get your spin issues worked out, maybe you are interested.
cw
we are renting stanton this week, probably thursday. rains will be here momentarily. if you want to try to get your spin issues worked out, maybe you are interested.
cw
Posted By: moderncylinder
Re: curent indy entry list - 07/28/08 05:01 PM
no i dont have it all figured out yet. i cant do the deal at stanton, i have s few things to do to the car that i found at columbus, and i have alot of work to do in my shop. i hope to get things sorted out by indy but i tihnk on a good track it wont matter with my spin issure, jerry never had a problem on a good track.
i talked to alot of people over at columbus,, had a great time,, talked to larry,, he picked up .25mph on me on the back half,, he ran 150.2 at the 1/4, i ran 147.8 and i think he ran 121.6 at the 1/8th and i ran 119.2. ill be honest,, my motor made 855hp and has terrible blow by but leaks down great. the block is an old non-siamesed bore that has sleeves in it that i think are kinda thin,, but im working on a new motor for indy, plus i picked up danny smiths motor that i built for him last year that made 900hp on impastatos dyno. so i just have to get my stuff together and get out and test,, cant this week though.
thanks for the offer though good buddy
jeff
i talked to alot of people over at columbus,, had a great time,, talked to larry,, he picked up .25mph on me on the back half,, he ran 150.2 at the 1/4, i ran 147.8 and i think he ran 121.6 at the 1/8th and i ran 119.2. ill be honest,, my motor made 855hp and has terrible blow by but leaks down great. the block is an old non-siamesed bore that has sleeves in it that i think are kinda thin,, but im working
on a new motor for indy, plus i picked up danny smiths motor that i built for him last year that made 900hp on impastatos dyno. so i just have to get my stuff together and get out and test,, cant this week though.thanks for the offer though good buddy
jeff
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: curent indy entry list - 07/28/08 05:16 PM
Why wasn't you there to run What kind of air?I ran at Numidia 8.83 151 best.3600 ft Not to good actually 1.23 60
Posted By: moderncylinder
Re: curent indy entry list - 07/28/08 05:44 PM
it was 2600ft when i ran 147.8 and woo ran 150.2,, you ran 151 at 3600ft,, thats a good shot should put you at 154 at indy if its the same air as last year. my deal right now is down 4-5mph from the top dog,, you. but maybe if it hooked up and drove through the 60ft without spinning it might run .5-1mph better. if i make 900hp on my dyno here i think ill be good,, that will give me a solid 3mph from where i was at columbus. ive heard from a few people how much power you make on clark's dyno,, that you make 900? that true?
jeff
jeff
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: curent indy entry list - 07/28/08 07:18 PM
Haven't been on the dyno in 2 years this motor made a best of 885 bracket motor made 870
Posted By: Defbob
Re: curent indy entry list - 07/28/08 09:32 PM
Bucky, I mean , (lol), can't wait to see you run at Maple Grove later this year.
I might be going to the Hemi Reunion in Ohio
, (lol), can't wait to see you run at Maple Grove later this year. I might be going to the Hemi Reunion in Ohio
Posted By: warfish
Re: curent indy entry list - 07/29/08 02:10 AM
I didnt need to go to columbus, we were on the dyno with my dads motor saturday. I would rather do that than go to a points meet. by the way we made 860. some day I will make 885 if I keep tryin
rains is here now, hansen will be here tonight. we will put in a fresh one and test thursday I think.
rains is here now, hansen will be here tonight. we will put in a fresh one and test thursday I think.
Posted By: mr2performance
Re: curent indy entry list - 07/29/08 10:58 AM
"by the way we made 860" did you leave a plug wire off or what ?
?
Posted By: Defbob
Re: curent indy entry list - 07/29/08 11:09 AM
Charlie, what happened to the 900+hp motor you were bragging about last year??
Posted By: warfish
Re: curent indy entry list - 07/29/08 11:35 AM
If bucky only makes 885, and says he is the top dog, then I am only allowed to make 860.
I made an offer earlier this year to settle all this HP BS, I would be willing to have a dyno challenge like in the hot rod magazines. 10K entry fee, winner take all. If you are proud enough of your capabilities to sell your stuff for big money, then you should be willing to do it.
cw
says he is the top dog, then I am only allowed to make 860.I made an offer earlier this year to settle all this HP BS, I would be willing to have a dyno challenge like in the hot rod magazines. 10K entry fee, winner take all. If you are proud enough of your capabilities to sell your stuff for big money, then you should be willing to do it.
cw
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: curent indy entry list - 07/29/08 11:54 AM
Haven't been on the dyno in 2 years p.s. my stuff not for sale
Posted By: ro23car
Re: curent indy entry list - 07/29/08 07:34 PM
Quote:i guess i missed where jeff said he is the top dog i understand it to be hess is the top dog but truck drivin can mess up your eyes sometimes
If bucky only makes 885, and
I made an offer earlier this year to settle all this HP BS, I would be willing to have a dyno challenge like in the hot rod magazines. 10K entry fee, winner take all. If you are proud enough of your capabilities to sell your stuff for big money, then you should be willing to do it.
cw
Posted By: 68Fastback
Re: curent indy entry list - 07/29/08 07:55 PM
At what point does NHRA step in and try to refactor the HP ratings on the cars or does it matter cause you guys have your own class. Maybe a dump question but just curious.
Quote:
If bucky only makes 885, and
I made an offer earlier this year to settle all this HP BS, I would be willing to have a dyno challenge like in the hot rod magazines. 10K entry fee, winner take all. If you are proud enough of your capabilities to sell your stuff for big money, then you should be willing to do it.
cw
Posted By: Dyno1
NHRA Adjustment - 07/29/08 08:16 PM
NHRA just adjusted the horsepower rating by lowering the index .05 to 9.75. They do this instead of adding more weight. Dyno
Got the engine in last night, getting closer.
Got the engine in last night, getting closer.
Posted By: moderncylinder
Re: NHRA Adjustment - 07/29/08 09:47 PM
charlie was saying that i said bucky was top dog,, not that i am top dog. i never said anything about charlie not being able to make power,, we all hear how dynos are,, charlies is just higher than clarks probably,, or maybe its not,, all you need when you go on the dyno is more, who cares what the numbers are. i say bucky is top cause he ran an 8.43 at 156+ at 300 or so feet air with his bracket motor in. last year at indy houser and bucky were top though bucky had technical difficulties with his tach/ignition. henson was fast but broke a rod bolt or a piston or whatever and had to put in his back up engine, i thought fred was the guy to beat till that happened.
we will all find out in a month if its charlie or bucky at the top,, or maybe barton or houser,, or lil joe..
jeff
we will all find out in a month if its charlie or bucky at the top,, or maybe barton or houser,, or lil joe..
jeff
Posted By: Ben Holt
Re: NHRA Adjustment - 07/30/08 02:19 AM
We weren't impressive enough at Columbus to get on your list????
Luckily have some time to work the bugs out....
Luckily have some time to work the bugs out....
Posted By: moderncylinder
Re: NHRA Adjustment - 07/30/08 01:34 PM
ben,, you guys are included in the barton gang,, so you are in there by association,, you cant count out jim,, even when he is down on performance he seems to find a way to the final. nice to talk to you and your dad over there.
jeff
jeff
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: NHRA Adjustment - 07/30/08 04:39 PM
If you haven't got at the top of the favorites,you must have been living underground for the past 5 years.I don't care if you don't like him his record speaks for itself.
at the top of the favorites,you must have been living underground for the past 5 years.I don't care if you don't like him his record speaks for itself.
Posted By: moderncylinder
Re: NHRA Adjustment - 07/30/08 07:26 PM
bucky, charlie was the first guy i mentioned. its just my opinion, but i think you are the guy to beat, your quickest and fastest run for an automatic speaks for itself. charlie works as hard or harder than anyone out there on this stuff. it shows and he gets rewarded quite often, ive had differences with him in recent times but that doesnt take anything away from his ability to race. if you pull aside charlie in a heads up race you best be on your game.
jeff
jeff
Posted By: warfish
Re: NHRA Adjustment - 07/31/08 01:51 AM
thanks bucky. I think that all of my customers should be on the short list of favorites. we are at stanton right now, rains tried tonight, but t spun bad. we will try again tomorrow.
cw
cw
Posted By: 68hemiss
Re: NHRA Adjustment - 07/31/08 03:37 AM
Just wanted everyone to know that there will be a Hemi Shootout at the allhemireunion at Quaker City Raceway. Trying to get them to prep the track for this event.
HEMI SHOOT OUT
On Saturday the 23rd August. Must be able to run 10.50 or quicker. Must have period looking no modern hood scoops, and 1964 to 1971 body style. If you want to run the Hemi Shoot out call Chuck Reichman at 330-479-0159 he is the coordinator for the shoot out.
Mark J
HEMI SHOOT OUT
On Saturday the 23rd August. Must be able to run 10.50 or quicker. Must have period looking no modern hood scoops, and 1964 to 1971 body style. If you want to run the Hemi Shoot out call Chuck Reichman at 330-479-0159 he is the coordinator for the shoot out.
Mark J
Posted By: j oliverio
Re: NHRA Adjustment - 07/31/08 10:59 AM
Are the West Coast Hemi's coming. Sure would be nice if they were there. They are great people.
Posted By: JulieJordan
Re: NHRA Adjustment - 08/01/08 05:48 PM
Quote:
Are the West Coast Hemi's coming. Sure would be nice if they were there. They are great people.
Thank you for asking and your nice comment. We will not be there. Currently we are a dysfunctional team.
Posted By: j oliverio
Re: NHRA Adjustment - 08/01/08 06:59 PM
Julie, that is terrible. Your team adds a lot of class to SS/AH. How is Harry and Jarred doing. You all will be missed at Indy. Hope your team gets back on the track.
Posted By: JulieJordan
Re: NHRA Adjustment - 08/02/08 02:10 AM
Quote:
Julie, that is terrible. Your team adds a lot of class to SS/AH. How is Harry and Jarred doing. You all will be missed at Indy. Hope your team gets back on the track.
Dad is doing pretty good. He'll by 77 on Sept. 1. Jared is recuperating fine.He has a lot of physical therapy ahead of him but he'll be fine. He's going to go back to his home in Sacramento this weekend. He starts his last year of law school 8/18. Soon I will be done with tuition and rent. Woohoo!
Posted By: sshemifan
Re: NHRA Adjustment - 08/02/08 11:58 PM
Quote:
Are the West Coast Hemi's coming. Sure would be nice if they were there. They are great people.
Here's a west coast car you don't see too often, Mark Vieira--ran a very nice 8.618 @LODRS, sharp car, nice flame job!!!
Regards, John
Posted By: Al_Alguire
Re: NHRA Adjustment - 08/03/08 03:21 AM
Mark's car is an awesome piece. The attention to detail is outstanding on it, top to bottom. But then again most of these cars seem to be that way.
Posted By: warfish
Viera! - 08/03/08 12:31 PM
I am not going to ask the usual question "What was the air like?" a 61 is good anywhere. he qualified good, out ran dave R by a tenth (CFO power), Mark builds his own motors, buys parts from people who have a track record, and the results speak for themselves. Good job
cw
cw
Posted By: mr2performance
Re: Viera! - 08/03/08 03:16 PM
Quote:
I am not going to ask the usual question "What was the air like?" a 61 is good anywhere. he qualified good, out ran dave R by a tenth (CFO power), Mark builds his own motors, buys parts from people who have a track record, and the results speak for themselves. Good job
cw
I agree
Posted By: Jared_Jordan
Re: Viera! - 08/03/08 11:28 PM
Not to mention Mark and his son built most of that car themselves.
Posted By: j oliverio
Re: Viera! - 08/04/08 11:05 AM
That is great no matter! I agree
Posted By: Erik Jones
Re: Viera! - 08/04/08 06:41 PM
It is great to see Mark Running fast, he has been getting the short end of the "Stick" for way to long. Mark and his son spent 2 days at my shop on the Dyno and they are great people to work with.
The ONLY people who deserve the credit for Mark's performance is the Vieira's not the parts house or his neighbors Plumber or anyone else for that matter.
Great Job Mark!
The ONLY people who deserve the credit for Mark's performance is the Vieira's not the parts house or his neighbors Plumber or anyone else for that matter.
Great Job Mark!
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: Viera! - 08/04/08 08:50 PM
Congrats
Posted By: warfish
Re: Viera! - 08/04/08 09:36 PM
Quote:
Mark and his son spent 2 days at my shop on the Dyno and they are great people to work with
did you learn anything?
Posted By: Erik Jones
Re: Viera! - 08/05/08 01:44 AM
did you learn anything?
Yea as a matter of fact......I found out that the Ladies Foot Locker there in Parma will let you return those cute little slip-on shoes that you wear......I purchased a pair from your favorite shoe store last summer, But after Mark came down i figured out that i didnt need the pink slip-on's any more
Yea as a matter of fact......I found out that the Ladies Foot Locker there in Parma will let you return those cute little slip-on shoes that you wear......I purchased a pair from your favorite shoe store last summer, But after Mark came down i figured out that i didnt need the pink slip-on's any more
Posted By: JERICOGTX
Re: NHRA Adjustment - 08/05/08 10:27 AM
Quote:Quote:
Are the West Coast Hemi's coming. Sure would be nice if they were there. They are great people.
Here's a west coast car you don't see too often, Mark Vieira--ran a very nice 8.618 @LODRS, sharp car, nice flame job!!!
Regards, John
Anymore pictures of this car available?
Thanks
Jeff
Posted By: warfish
Re: Viera! - 08/05/08 11:35 AM
Quote:
did you learn anything?
Yea as a matter of fact......I found out that the Ladies Foot Locker there in Parma will let you return those cute little slip-on shoes that you wear......I purchased a pair from your favorite shoe store last summer, But after Mark came down i figured out that i didnt need the pink slip-on's any more
I was more interested in whether you could keep a motor together for more than one run yet. The secrets not in the shoes, and they're camo, not pink.
cw
Posted By: Troublemaker427
Re: Viera! - 08/05/08 12:03 PM
I don't care who you are, thats funny....
Yea as a matter of fact......I found out that the Ladies Foot Locker there in Parma will let you return those cute little slip-on shoes that you wear......I purchased a pair from your favorite shoe store last summer, But after Mark came down i figured out that i didnt need the pink slip-on's any more
Quote:
did you learn anything?
Yea as a matter of fact......I found out that the Ladies Foot Locker there in Parma will let you return those cute little slip-on shoes that you wear......I purchased a pair from your favorite shoe store last summer, But after Mark came down i figured out that i didnt need the pink slip-on's any more
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: Viera! - 08/05/08 12:49 PM
you have another adoring fan?
Posted By: Erik Jones
Re: Viera! - 08/05/08 07:20 PM
Quote:Quote:
did you learn anything?
Yea as a matter of fact......I found out that the Ladies Foot Locker there in Parma will let you return those cute little slip-on shoes that you wear......I purchased a pair from your favorite shoe store last summer, But after Mark came down i figured out that i didnt need the pink slip-on's any more
I was more interested in whether you could keep a motor together for more than one run yet. The secrets not in the shoes, and they're camo, not pink.
cw
Come on son your memory can't be that bad......What was it 3rd round i think, yea when Jenkins sent you packin after your loooong trip to Vegas circa 2007. I cant imagine what the shipping bill looked like from TCB to Jackson Drywall for all those Engine rebuilds....
People who live in glass porta potties shouldn't throw Rod Bolts.
Happy Trails Cupcake...Go back to work!
Posted By: dan1320
Re: Viera! - 08/05/08 07:46 PM
Posted By: warfish
Re: Viera! - 08/05/08 09:27 PM
Come on son your memory can't be that bad......What was it 3rd round i think, yea when Jenkins sent you packin after your loooong trip to Vegas circa 2007. I cant imagine what the shipping bill looked like from TCB to Jackson Drywall for all those Engine rebuilds....
Jenkins beat me there, one win doesnt make you a winner. At least none of my customers ever crashed their cars when their motors blew up. You talk a big game, time to start producing. Dave told me at vegas his record was like 7 runs on a motor. I just freshened rains motor (the #1 qualifier at vegas 08, and belle rose 08) it had 50 + runs on it and won the last race it was at, you remember when your motor blew up again. Just cause you have t-shirts with your name on them, doesnt make you king. You need to get to work cupcake.
Jenkins beat me there, one win doesnt make you a winner. At least none of my customers ever crashed their cars when their motors blew up. You talk a big game, time to start producing. Dave told me at vegas his record was like 7 runs on a motor. I just freshened rains motor (the #1 qualifier at vegas 08, and belle rose 08) it had 50 + runs on it and won the last race it was at, you remember when your motor blew up again. Just cause you have t-shirts with your name on them, doesnt make you king. You need to get to work cupcake.
Posted By: meanfish
Re: Viera! - 08/05/08 10:48 PM
Charlie, the 7 run people were the engine builder prior to CFO. I have had very descent reliability from the stuff I took to him, witch he wasn't thrilled about warming up some one elses stuff. I look forward to getting the new piece from him in the very near future so maybe I can compete again. Best regards Dave
Posted By: Erik Jones
Re: Viera! - 08/05/08 11:12 PM
My last reply to charlie
The facts:
#1 Jenkins sending you home was only an answer to your last question nothing more nothing less.
#2 Jenkins Did not crash his car as a result of an engine failure.
#3 I have had 5 posts previous to this pissin match, so i dont know where you came up with "You talk a big Game"
#4 209-571-1746 Is the number for TCB, ask for Dave and im sure he can explain the "7 pass record" from his previous Engine Builderzzzzzzz, your name is on that list!
#5 I have Built and Broken many engines....I have the Balls enough to say it.
The funny part about your "88 year old's" sewing circle is that the only thing you accomplished on here is to get your little pink panties in a bunch. Its the cheapest form of comedy!
The next time we have the pleasure of being at the same track you should come say hi and maybee we could have a Capri Sun together.
Later Dork!
The facts:
#1 Jenkins sending you home was only an answer to your last question nothing more nothing less.
#2 Jenkins Did not crash his car as a result of an engine failure.
#3 I have had 5 posts previous to this pissin match, so i dont know where you came up with "You talk a big Game"
#4 209-571-1746 Is the number for TCB, ask for Dave and im sure he can explain the "7 pass record" from his previous Engine Builderzzzzzzz, your name is on that list!
#5 I have Built and Broken many engines....I have the Balls enough to say it.
The funny part about your "88 year old's" sewing circle is that the only thing you accomplished on here is to get your little pink panties in a bunch. Its the cheapest form of comedy!
The next time we have the pleasure of being at the same track you should come say hi and maybee we could have a Capri Sun together.
Later Dork!
Posted By: nitrojoe
Elephant Cage - 08/05/08 11:40 PM
guys, not to change the subject...
August issue of the Elephant Cage is posted on Mopar Max site, in there I talk about the US Nationals Mopar Hemi Challenge. Enjoy the reading. Here is the stats that kind of got screwed up in there somehow.
Numbers dont lie.
ET CAR # DRIVER RD EVENT
8.514 3651 Charlie Westcott Jr CE 3 CAJUN SPORTS
8.530 799J John Rains CE 4 CAJUN SPORTS
8.581 7301 Jerry Jenkins RD 2 WINTER NATS
8.598 350 Jim Pancake Q CAJUN SPORTS
8.604 4446 J. Allen Sherman Q D4-1 BELLE ROSE
8.612 4426 Joe Teuton III Q D4-1 BELLE ROSE
8.626 3036 Charlie Westcott Sr Q D3-1 INDY
8.633 1798 Bucky Hess Q SUPER NATS
8.640 3500 Larry Woo Q CAJUN SPORTS
8.648 2354 Bill Brooks RD 3 D2-3 ORLANDO
8.658 138 Wendell Howes Q D1-2 READING
8.660 1990 David Barton Q SUPER NATS
8.711 1517 Jim Daniels Q D1-2 READING
8.715 721 Rick Houser Q WINTER NATS
8.726 736 Michael Ogburn Q WINTER NATS
8.734 2904 Matt Hensley RD 1 D2-3 ORLANDO
8.751 720 Dave Raybourn Q WINTER NATS
8.754 1954 Bob Wolkwitz RD 1 D1-2 READING
8.806 1945 Gary Wolkwitz Q D1-2 READING
8.819 304 Jim Keyes Q D3-3 JOLIET
8.820 1381 Mark Howes Q D1-2 READING
8.842 7629 Joe Faherty RD 3 D7-1 CHANDLER
8.852 360 Geoff Turk Q D3-1 INDY
8.858 6145 Norman Scott Q D6-4 WOODBURN
8.859 2450 Bob Reed RD 1 D2-2 GAINESVILLE
8.898 1960 Al Smith III Q SUPER NATS
8.903 4181 Mike Trumble Jr. Q CAJUN SPORTS
8.949 335 Jeff Kobylok Q D3-3 JOLIET
8.963 4420 Tim Hebert CE 2 CAJUN SPORTS
9.008 342 Harold Leiter RD 1 D3 B-GREEN N/O
9.138 205 John Gillford Q D2-1 BRADENTON
9.146 4443 Gary Moore RD 3 D4-4 HOUSTON
9.409 4777 S.E. Buchanan RD 1 D4-3 MEMPHIS
9.568 397 Don Soloman RD 2 D3-4 STANTON
9.663 1174 Brooks Lee RD 1 D1 NUMIDIA NO
© "Nitro Joe's" Drag Racing Stats 2008
*CE= Class Eliminations
August issue of the Elephant Cage is posted on Mopar Max site, in there I talk about the US Nationals Mopar Hemi Challenge. Enjoy the reading. Here is the stats that kind of got screwed up in there somehow.
Numbers dont lie.
ET CAR # DRIVER RD EVENT
8.514 3651 Charlie Westcott Jr CE 3 CAJUN SPORTS
8.530 799J John Rains CE 4 CAJUN SPORTS
8.581 7301 Jerry Jenkins RD 2 WINTER NATS
8.598 350 Jim Pancake Q CAJUN SPORTS
8.604 4446 J. Allen Sherman Q D4-1 BELLE ROSE
8.612 4426 Joe Teuton III Q D4-1 BELLE ROSE
8.626 3036 Charlie Westcott Sr Q D3-1 INDY
8.633 1798 Bucky Hess Q SUPER NATS
8.640 3500 Larry Woo Q CAJUN SPORTS
8.648 2354 Bill Brooks RD 3 D2-3 ORLANDO
8.658 138 Wendell Howes Q D1-2 READING
8.660 1990 David Barton Q SUPER NATS
8.711 1517 Jim Daniels Q D1-2 READING
8.715 721 Rick Houser Q WINTER NATS
8.726 736 Michael Ogburn Q WINTER NATS
8.734 2904 Matt Hensley RD 1 D2-3 ORLANDO
8.751 720 Dave Raybourn Q WINTER NATS
8.754 1954 Bob Wolkwitz RD 1 D1-2 READING
8.806 1945 Gary Wolkwitz Q D1-2 READING
8.819 304 Jim Keyes Q D3-3 JOLIET
8.820 1381 Mark Howes Q D1-2 READING
8.842 7629 Joe Faherty RD 3 D7-1 CHANDLER
8.852 360 Geoff Turk Q D3-1 INDY
8.858 6145 Norman Scott Q D6-4 WOODBURN
8.859 2450 Bob Reed RD 1 D2-2 GAINESVILLE
8.898 1960 Al Smith III Q SUPER NATS
8.903 4181 Mike Trumble Jr. Q CAJUN SPORTS
8.949 335 Jeff Kobylok Q D3-3 JOLIET
8.963 4420 Tim Hebert CE 2 CAJUN SPORTS
9.008 342 Harold Leiter RD 1 D3 B-GREEN N/O
9.138 205 John Gillford Q D2-1 BRADENTON
9.146 4443 Gary Moore RD 3 D4-4 HOUSTON
9.409 4777 S.E. Buchanan RD 1 D4-3 MEMPHIS
9.568 397 Don Soloman RD 2 D3-4 STANTON
9.663 1174 Brooks Lee RD 1 D1 NUMIDIA NO
© "Nitro Joe's" Drag Racing Stats 2008
*CE= Class Eliminations
Posted By: JulieJordan
Re: Elephant Cage - 08/06/08 12:22 AM
We haven't been out much this year and Dad isn't working the hours he used to so it's nice to see his motor is #3 on the list. What a guy! (you think I'm prejudiced? )
Thanks, Joe. Your article, as usual, is great.
)Thanks, Joe. Your article, as usual, is great.
Posted By: warfish
Re: Viera! - 08/06/08 12:24 AM
you kinda started it when you had to jump in on viera's success. I think its cool that he builds his own motors. Then had to tell how he was getting screwed by the last guy (harry). I kinda like harry, and I took offense to that. I had to explain to bucky and comella today who you are, I guess they hadnt heard how cool you are.
And I apologize to Dave R. for misrepresenting what he said to me. I get along well with him also even though he took his work elsewhere.
Dork? whatever. 5 of the top 9 cars on nitros list are my customers, where are yours.
later
cw
And I apologize to Dave R. for misrepresenting what he said to me. I get along well with him also even though he took his work elsewhere.
Dork? whatever. 5 of the top 9 cars on nitros list are my customers, where are yours.
later
cw
Posted By: warfish
Re: Elephant Cage - 08/06/08 01:13 AM
I read your article on MM. Do you have the points? You are aware that columbus and the dutch count for 08 aren't you. I dont think I have anything wrapped up, I think Cake is close.
Posted By: nitrojoe
Re: Elephant Cage - 08/06/08 01:25 AM
Yes, I know, but it's real close to a done deal, anything can happen! But yes, Pancake is in second.
Good Luck to everybody at Indy and I'll be writing a daily blog for Mopar Max on site, so this will be fun to watch. I just wish it would get promoted better at the US Nationals!
1 3651 Charlie Westcott Jr 275
2 350 Jim Pancake 158
3 799J John Rains 117
4 2904 Matt Hensley 115
5 3036 Charlie Westcott Sr 114
6 3500 Larry Woo 94
7 7301 Jerry Jenkins 83
8 44 Joe Teuton III 83
9 4446 J. Allen Sherman 83
10 736 Michael Ogburn 72
11 2354 Bill Brooks 72
12 721 Rick Houser 42
13 7005 Mark Vieira 42
14 4420 Tim Hebert 42
15 720 Dave Raybourn 31
16 4222 Fred Henson 31
17 4443 Gary Moore 31
18 4181 Mike Trumble Jr 31
19 364 Tony DePillo 30
20 1798 Bucky Hess 30
21 19 David Barton 30
22 1174 Brooks Lee 30
23 1517 Jim Daniels 30
24 1945 Gary Wolkwitz 30
25 1954 Bob Wolkwitz 30
26 3426 Darrell Marvel 30
Good Luck to everybody at Indy and I'll be writing a daily blog for Mopar Max on site, so this will be fun to watch. I just wish it would get promoted better at the US Nationals!
1 3651 Charlie Westcott Jr 275
2 350 Jim Pancake 158
3 799J John Rains 117
4 2904 Matt Hensley 115
5 3036 Charlie Westcott Sr 114
6 3500 Larry Woo 94
7 7301 Jerry Jenkins 83
8 44 Joe Teuton III 83
9 4446 J. Allen Sherman 83
10 736 Michael Ogburn 72
11 2354 Bill Brooks 72
12 721 Rick Houser 42
13 7005 Mark Vieira 42
14 4420 Tim Hebert 42
15 720 Dave Raybourn 31
16 4222 Fred Henson 31
17 4443 Gary Moore 31
18 4181 Mike Trumble Jr 31
19 364 Tony DePillo 30
20 1798 Bucky Hess 30
21 19 David Barton 30
22 1174 Brooks Lee 30
23 1517 Jim Daniels 30
24 1945 Gary Wolkwitz 30
25 1954 Bob Wolkwitz 30
26 3426 Darrell Marvel 30
Posted By: warfish
Re: Elephant Cage - 08/06/08 01:51 AM
thanks, not a bad points total for a dork.
4 out of top 6, kinda goes along with my slogan.
cw
4 out of top 6, kinda goes along with my slogan.
cw
Posted By: sshemifan
Re: Elephant Cage - 08/06/08 03:04 AM
Quote:
guys, not to change the subject...
August issue of the Elephant Cage is posted on Mopar Max site, in there I talk about the US Nationals Mopar Hemi Challenge. Enjoy the reading. Here is the stats that kind of got screwed up in there somehow.
Numbers dont lie.
ET CAR # DRIVER RD EVENT
8.514 3651 Charlie Westcott Jr CE 3 CAJUN SPORTS
8.530 799J John Rains CE 4 CAJUN SPORTS
8.581 7301 Jerry Jenkins RD 2 WINTER NATS
8.598 350 Jim Pancake Q CAJUN SPORTS
8.604 4446 J. Allen Sherman Q D4-1 BELLE ROSE
8.612 4426 Joe Teuton III Q D4-1 BELLE ROSE
8.626 3036 Charlie Westcott Sr Q D3-1 INDY
8.633 1798 Bucky Hess Q SUPER NATS
8.640 3500 Larry Woo Q CAJUN SPORTS
8.648 2354 Bill Brooks RD 3 D2-3 ORLANDO
8.658 138 Wendell Howes Q D1-2 READING
8.660 1990 David Barton Q SUPER NATS
8.711 1517 Jim Daniels Q D1-2 READING
8.715 721 Rick Houser Q WINTER NATS
8.726 736 Michael Ogburn Q WINTER NATS
8.734 2904 Matt Hensley RD 1 D2-3 ORLANDO
8.751 720 Dave Raybourn Q WINTER NATS
8.754 1954 Bob Wolkwitz RD 1 D1-2 READING
8.806 1945 Gary Wolkwitz Q D1-2 READING
8.819 304 Jim Keyes Q D3-3 JOLIET
8.820 1381 Mark Howes Q D1-2 READING
8.842 7629 Joe Faherty RD 3 D7-1 CHANDLER
8.852 360 Geoff Turk Q D3-1 INDY
8.858 6145 Norman Scott Q D6-4 WOODBURN
8.859 2450 Bob Reed RD 1 D2-2 GAINESVILLE
8.898 1960 Al Smith III Q SUPER NATS
8.903 4181 Mike Trumble Jr. Q CAJUN SPORTS
8.949 335 Jeff Kobylok Q D3-3 JOLIET
8.963 4420 Tim Hebert CE 2 CAJUN SPORTS
9.008 342 Harold Leiter RD 1 D3 B-GREEN N/O
9.138 205 John Gillford Q D2-1 BRADENTON
9.146 4443 Gary Moore RD 3 D4-4 HOUSTON
9.409 4777 S.E. Buchanan RD 1 D4-3 MEMPHIS
9.568 397 Don Soloman RD 2 D3-4 STANTON
9.663 1174 Brooks Lee RD 1 D1 NUMIDIA NO
© "Nitro Joe's" Drag Racing Stats 2008
*CE= Class Eliminations
Hey Nitro Joe----speaking of Mark Vieira, howcome he didn't make your list???
Regards, John
Posted By: sshemifan
Re: NHRA Adjustment - 08/06/08 03:09 AM
Quote:Quote:Quote:
Are the West Coast Hemi's coming. Sure would be nice if they were there. They are great people.
Here's a west coast car you don't see too often, Mark Vieira--ran a very nice 8.618 @LODRS, sharp car, nice flame job!!!
Regards, John
Anymore pictures of this car available?
Thanks
Jeff
Got that pic off of DRC----pics of that car seem to be as scarce as hens teeth, anybody got any more???
Regards, John
Posted By: sshemifan
Re: NHRA Adjustment - 08/06/08 03:22 AM
Oops, found another one Regards, John
Posted By: Hemi_Jack
Re: NHRA Adjustment - 08/06/08 03:59 AM
Here's one from 2005 at Mission, B.C.
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: Viera! - 08/06/08 02:31 PM
Come on Eric /cfo.Later Dork, Get it right its Later ........
........
Posted By: Erik Jones
Re: Viera! - 08/06/08 05:26 PM
Quote:
Come on Eric /cfo.Later Dork, Get it right its Later
OOOOPS Sorry
Is that the species Known as the "Fairy (also known as little blue) Eudyptula minor" Ok im going back to work on my Bottom Feeding, 1 Round, Stupid Stock engines.........
Posted By: moderncylinder
how ya doin - 08/08/08 02:16 AM
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: how ya doin - 08/08/08 01:47 PM
How did the test session at indy go?or is it top secret.........
Posted By: warfish
test - 08/08/08 07:51 PM
Quote:
How did the test session at indy go?or is it top secret.........
warford went a .94 @ 148, the bales group was there(silver bullet) with mr2 and D barton, they never made a good run while we were there, it was a new car, and I am sure it needs some tuning. maybe mr2 can tell us how it went after we left.
cw
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: test - 08/08/08 08:03 PM
i wanna say thanks to charile & his dad for coming down to the indy test session, & helping randy & i on the car. thanks alot charlie!
Posted By: mr2performance
Re: test - 08/09/08 01:09 PM
Quote:Quote:
How did the test session at indy go?or is it top secret.........
warford went a .94 @ 148, the bales group was there(silver bullet) with mr2 and D barton, they never made a good run while we were there, it was a new car, and I am sure it needs some tuning. maybe mr2 can tell us how it went after we left.
cw
The two runs when you guys were there the car dead hooked for about ten feet then went into a weird controlled spin and blew the tires away. We found the right side rim was spinning so bad in the tire that it turned the bead into molten rubber. Don't know if it was the powder coat or what. Put 6 rim screws in the right rear and it went right down the race track with the frontend about 1 foot in the air went 1.23 and 9.11 144.9 something. Not fast but you gotta start somewhere. Changed some stuff yesterday and picked up almost 2 more mph. Going to columbus today. I'll post the update when we get back.
MR2
Posted By: dragonfish
Re: test - 08/13/08 11:13 PM
HEMI-MILITIA (1/25 scale)
Posted By: warfish
Re: test - 08/13/08 11:19 PM
kinda quiet, must mean everyones ready for indy.
cw
cw
Posted By: PUNK
Re: test - 08/13/08 11:23 PM
Quote:
HEMI-MILITIA (1/25 scale)
Those drag-slot cars are way cool. I used to do that alot when the local track was still around. Cool cars.
Posted By: mr_340
Wescott Engine Paint? - 08/14/08 03:41 AM
I'm just curious if WC uses Shivy Orange paint on his engines? I've been to several Hemi Shootouts in Belle Rose and saw his car at Indy in 2004, but never ventured by to take a look.
Posted By: Defbob
Re: test - 08/14/08 11:13 AM
Quote:
HEMI-MILITIA (1/25 scale)
those wheelie bars are not nhra legal
Posted By: JAKE68
Re: Wescott Engine Paint? - 08/14/08 11:52 AM
Quote:charlie dose not paint the motors
I'm just curious if WC uses Shivy Orange paint on his engines? I've been to several Hemi Shootouts in Belle Rose and saw his car at Indy in 2004, but never ventured by to take a look.
Posted By: moderncylinder
Re: test - 08/14/08 03:48 PM
im not ready for indy,,, i hope to be in the next week ,, need to try to test somewhere mid next week but then im so busy with work at my shop.my new motor is not together yet, and my other is apart to change rod bolts in it.. i have talked to a few guys and they are ready to go,, hopeful on making more power that they will run as good as last year or better. im looking forward to it, having fun, and hopefully running well .
jeff
. jeff
Posted By: Defbob
Re: Wescott Engine Paint? - 08/15/08 12:11 AM
Quote:Quote:charlie dose not paint the motors
I'm just curious if WC uses Shivy Orange paint on his engines? I've been to several Hemi Shootouts in Belle Rose and saw his car at Indy in 2004, but never ventured by to take a look.
sure he doesn't just use "cast iron" paint like I did on Tom's blower motor?
Posted By: warfish
Re: Wescott Engine Paint? - 08/15/08 12:43 AM
I'll leave the painting to bucky. I painted comellas motor cause the block was a little rusty looking, but that was the only one I ever painted.
Why are we talking about this anyways?
Any trackside reports from maplegrove?
cw (not wc)
Why are we talking about this anyways?
Any trackside reports from maplegrove?
cw (not wc)
Posted By: warfish
Re: Wescott Engine Paint? - 08/15/08 02:38 PM
check this out, live timing from MG.
http://www.1320go.com/maplegrove/livetiming.php#
By the way for anyone interested, I will have an engine ready for indy rental, or sale. I plan to finish it tomorrow.
later
cw
http://www.1320go.com/maplegrove/livetiming.php#
By the way for anyone interested, I will have an engine ready for indy rental, or sale. I plan to finish it tomorrow.
later
cw
Posted By: JulieJordan
Re: Wescott Engine Paint? - 08/15/08 03:27 PM
What happened to Bucky at Maple Grove? He was a "no show" for class elims.
Posted By: jake4cars
Re: Wescott Engine Paint? - 08/15/08 06:10 PM
Rumor is he lost an engine.
Posted By: JulieJordan
Re: Wescott Engine Paint? - 08/15/08 08:03 PM
I'm sorry to hear that. Hope that wasn't his Indy piece.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Wescott Engine Paint? - 08/16/08 04:32 AM
it wasn't his indy motor.sounded like it scattered pretty good.
Posted By: j oliverio
Re: Wescott Engine Paint? - 08/16/08 12:48 PM
GREAT it wasn't you ndy piece! We will see you at Indy. Your freinds at the WV HillBilly
Posted By: sshemifan
Re: Wescott Engine Paint? - 08/16/08 03:22 PM
Quote:
What happened to Bucky at Maple Grove? He was a "no show" for class elims.
Looks like not such a good weekend for any of the AH cars, nobody got past first round...Regards, John
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: Wescott Engine Paint? - 08/18/08 01:33 PM
Yes it was my Indy piece.Scattered to pieces,Hopefully I can get my bracket motor back together.Its starting like my typical Indy..
Posted By: Troy
Re: Wescott Engine Paint? - 08/18/08 03:36 PM
Sorry to here about your engine Bucky.
I have a few of the P5153943 Hemi Super Stock blocks in stock if anybody is looking for them.
Special pricing to any S/S racer!!
I have a few of the P5153943 Hemi Super Stock blocks in stock if anybody is looking for them.
Special pricing to any S/S racer!!
Posted By: warfish
Re: Wescott Engine Paint? - 08/19/08 02:11 AM
we plan to rent martin later this week, thursday or friday. anyone interested call me. I have 4 lined up now. Jeff? Marvell? or whoever.
517 531 3430
517 531 3430
Posted By: dragonfish
Re: Wescott Engine Paint? - 08/21/08 12:27 AM
Whats the schedule for the HEMI CHALLENGE at Indy
Posted By: warfish
Re: Wescott Engine Paint? - 08/21/08 01:59 AM
wed and thurs qualifying, friday race. usually starts around 10 am.
we are testing tomorrow, we run both of our cars, and I will run rains' car. chuck comella will be there, and marvell said he is coming. weather looks dry but warm, 85 high.
later
cw
we are testing tomorrow, we run both of our cars, and I will run rains' car. chuck comella will be there, and marvell said he is coming. weather looks dry but warm, 85 high.
later
cw
Posted By: OUTLAWSSAA
Re: Wescott Engine Paint? - 08/21/08 04:38 AM
Hemi race is run on fri. Aug 29 along with other class eliminations that start around 8:00 am.
Posted By: 68Fastback
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 08/22/08 10:05 PM
Any word on how testing went for the teams at CW's track rental.
Posted By: warfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 08/23/08 11:12 AM
2800 ft on my tag
marvell 81 151
cw stick 67 156
rains (jr driving) 74 153
comella half pass, would have been mid 80
jr 58 155
cw
marvell 81 151
cw stick 67 156
rains (jr driving) 74 153
comella half pass, would have been mid 80
jr 58 155
cw
Posted By: badwej
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 08/23/08 09:57 PM
Nice job CW
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 08/25/08 01:25 PM
Pretty impressive .........
.........
Posted By: ASA1711
Re: Wescott Engine Paint? - 08/25/08 11:18 PM
Bucky,
I hope you're being coy about your Indy piece
I'd like to see you and CW run for the money.
Good luck to both of you.
Frank
I hope you're being coy about your Indy piece
I'd like to see you and CW run for the money.
Good luck to both of you.
Frank
Posted By: J_BODY
Re: Wescott Engine Paint? - 08/26/08 03:51 AM
Looked like 28+ on the pre-entry for Indy. Now if we just had a score card/program of who they are. Where they're from, and who's the engine builder.
Posted By: bigtimeauto
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 08/26/08 04:48 AM
Hey guys, just curious what is the race weight of one of these cars.
thanks bob
thanks bob
Posted By: JAKE68
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 08/26/08 11:59 AM
3210
Posted By: bigtimeauto
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 08/26/08 12:40 PM
thanks
Posted By: ro23car
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 08/26/08 01:52 PM
good luck to everyone goin
Posted By: Chris2581
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 08/26/08 11:55 PM
Quote:
3210
Is that weight just for the Auto trans cars?? I thought the stick cars can weigh in at 3170
Posted By: JulieJordan
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 08/27/08 12:12 AM
Quote:Quote:
3210
Is that weight just for the Auto trans cars?? I thought the stick cars can weigh in at 3170
Chris, you are correct.
Posted By: bigjohn65
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 08/27/08 02:42 AM
Quote:
Pretty impressive
I saw your cuda at the york reunion and that was real impressive!! The paint was awesome.
Good luck racing.
Big John
Posted By: sshemifan
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 08/27/08 03:49 AM
Good Luck to all the participants in the Hemi Shootout at Indy---Hook 'em hard, guys!!! Regards, John
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 08/27/08 03:53 AM
hey well,i just got a really upsetting phone call.my dad was just about in scarry crash towing.the road just stopped on his way to indy at 11:30 pm.he didn't hit anyone but got the rig stopped but braked so hard the golf cart bounced off the front of the car and crushed the front of the car.after blowing up now this.we're all pretty overwhelmed.it coulda been worse.those who pray....say one for my dad.he was freakin out.he thought he was gonna run over a pile of cars.he could barely talk.thanks alot
Posted By: 354valiant
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 08/27/08 05:21 AM
Travis, Hope Bucky is okay, My prays and wishes are with him. My Dad and I are heading to Indy on Thursday for the HEMI Shootout. The Buetsch Family wishes the Hess Family all the best.
Sincerely, Brian Buetsch
65 HEMI Valiant
Sincerely, Brian Buetsch
65 HEMI Valiant
Posted By: cudadoug
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 08/27/08 05:23 AM
Quote:
hey well,i just got a really upsetting phone call.my dad was just about in scarry crash towing.the road just stopped on his way to indy at 11:30 pm.he didn't hit anyone but got the rig stopped but braked so hard the golf cart bounced off the front of the car and crushed the front of the car.after blowing up now this.we're all pretty overwhelmed.it coulda been worse.those who pray....say one for my dad.he was freakin out.he thought he was gonna run over a pile of cars.he could barely talk.thanks alot
First, GLAD and VERY THANKFUL he's okay! Second, hope the cars's not too bad; seems he is making DEPOSITS into the luck bank lately...hopefully he can take some out soon.
Third, I bet that ruined a good pair of Fruit of the Looms!
Is the car raceable??!!??
Posted By: Defbob
Re: Wescott Engine Paint? - 08/27/08 11:09 AM
oh crap. was he calm enough to drive again last night?
Posted By: Troublemaker427
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 08/27/08 11:18 AM
Hang in there Travis. Good luck to you and your dad this weekend.
Posted By: 64ssmax
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 08/27/08 02:22 PM
any thing on 1st round of qualifying from indy?
Posted By: j oliverio
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 08/27/08 02:23 PM
Travis, hope everything is ok with Bucky and Jeanie and the car. we will be at Indy Thursday. Your freinds at the WV Hillbilly!
Posted By: JulieJordan
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 08/27/08 02:35 PM
Travis ~ Glad your parents (I assume your Mom was with him, too?)are ok. Racecars can be fixed/repaired and Indy rolls around every year. Trust me, when I say, the health of a family member takes priority over racing any day! Best wishes!
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 08/27/08 02:38 PM
this is travis,not dad.i talked to him this morning.he stayed up till 3 am tearing it apart and beating out what he could.he's just beat himself.hopefully he'll make a solid pass today.thanks everyone.
tuki
tuki
Posted By: JulieJordan
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 08/27/08 02:49 PM
Quote:
any thing on 1st round of qualifying from indy?
Qualifying didn't start until 9AM, with Stock out first. Usually SS doesn't get on the track until 11 or so.
Posted By: 64ssmax
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 08/27/08 02:51 PM
ty julie
Posted By: 65pacecar
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 08/27/08 04:53 PM
Is Dean Mink running in the Hemi Challenge this year? Hope to make it up Friday.
Posted By: 64ssmax
1st round qualifying at the BIG GO! - 08/27/08 06:20 PM
Psn Driver Class Index ET Ov/Un
16. Charlie Westcott SS/AH 9.75 8.690 -1.060
18. Charlie Westcott Jr. SS/AH 9.75 8.699 -1.051
51. Mark Vieira SS/AH 9.75 8.779 -0.971
63. David Barton SS/AH 9.75 8.800 -0.950
77. John Rains SS/AH 9.75 8.840 -0.910
78. Larry Woo SS/AH 9.75 8.841 -0.909
80. Jim Pancake SS/AH 9.75 8.842 -0.908
88. Bucky Hess SS/AH 9.75 8.864 -0.886
97. Bob Wolkwitz SS/AH 9.75 8.882 -0.868
98. Jim Daniels SS/AH 9.75 8.883 -0.867
100. Rick Houser SS/AH 9.75 8.898 -0.852
101. J Allen Sherman SS/AH 9.75 8.899 -0.851
103. Jim Keyes SS/AH 9.75 8.908 -0.842
115. Bill Brooks SS/AH 9.75 8.935 -0.815
118. Wendell Howes SS/AH 9.75 8.941 -0.809
119. Kevin Helms SS/AH 9.75 8.950 -0.800
125. Al Smyth SS/AH 9.75 8.968 -0.782
127. Dave Raybourn SS/AH 9.75 8.975 -0.775
128. Joe Teuton Jr. SS/AH 9.75 8.975 -0.775
--------- Not Qualified ---------
132. Gary Wolkwitz SS/AH 9.75 9.000 -0.750
133. Tony DePillo SS/AH 9.75 9.000 -0.750
139. Chuck Comella SS/AH 9.75 9.124 -0.626
143. Darrell Marvel SS/AH 9.75 9.175 -0.575
144. Mark Howes SS/AH 9.75 9.195 -0.555
147. Don Bales SS/AH 9.75 9.238 -0.512
152. Jeffrey Kobylski SS/A 0.00 16.711 16.711
16. Charlie Westcott SS/AH 9.75 8.690 -1.060
18. Charlie Westcott Jr. SS/AH 9.75 8.699 -1.051
51. Mark Vieira SS/AH 9.75 8.779 -0.971
63. David Barton SS/AH 9.75 8.800 -0.950
77. John Rains SS/AH 9.75 8.840 -0.910
78. Larry Woo SS/AH 9.75 8.841 -0.909
80. Jim Pancake SS/AH 9.75 8.842 -0.908
88. Bucky Hess SS/AH 9.75 8.864 -0.886
97. Bob Wolkwitz SS/AH 9.75 8.882 -0.868
98. Jim Daniels SS/AH 9.75 8.883 -0.867
100. Rick Houser SS/AH 9.75 8.898 -0.852
101. J Allen Sherman SS/AH 9.75 8.899 -0.851
103. Jim Keyes SS/AH 9.75 8.908 -0.842
115. Bill Brooks SS/AH 9.75 8.935 -0.815
118. Wendell Howes SS/AH 9.75 8.941 -0.809
119. Kevin Helms SS/AH 9.75 8.950 -0.800
125. Al Smyth SS/AH 9.75 8.968 -0.782
127. Dave Raybourn SS/AH 9.75 8.975 -0.775
128. Joe Teuton Jr. SS/AH 9.75 8.975 -0.775
--------- Not Qualified ---------
132. Gary Wolkwitz SS/AH 9.75 9.000 -0.750
133. Tony DePillo SS/AH 9.75 9.000 -0.750
139. Chuck Comella SS/AH 9.75 9.124 -0.626
143. Darrell Marvel SS/AH 9.75 9.175 -0.575
144. Mark Howes SS/AH 9.75 9.195 -0.555
147. Don Bales SS/AH 9.75 9.238 -0.512
152. Jeffrey Kobylski SS/A 0.00 16.711 16.711
Posted By: wildcargo
Re: 1st round qualifying at the BIG GO! - 08/27/08 08:07 PM
Thanks SS/AH
Posted By: HemiDart68
Re: 1st round qualifying at the BIG GO! - 08/27/08 10:26 PM
19. Charlie Westcott 8.690 -1.060
21. Charlie Westcott Jr. 8.699 -1.051
57. Mark Vieira 8.779 -0.971
70. David Barton 8.800 -0.950
74. John Rains 8.813 -0.937
83. Jim Daniels 8.839 -0.911
85. Larry Woo 8.841 -0.909
87. Jim Pancake 8.842 -0.908
91. Darrell Marvel 8.850 -0.900
93. Bucky Hess 8.863 -0.887
96. Randy Warford 8.867 -0.883
103. Bob Wolkwitz 8.882 -0.868
107. Rick Houser 8.898 -0.852
108. J Allen Sherman 8.899 -0.851
111. Jim Keyes 8.908 -0.842
117. Wendell Howes 8.917 -0.833
123. Kevin Helms 8.924 -0.826
126. Bill Brooks 8.935 -0.815
--------- Not Qualified ---------
134. Al Smyth 8.968 -0.782
135. Dave Raybourn 8.975 -0.775
136. Joe Teuton Jr. 8.975 -0.775
141. Gary Wolkwitz 9.000 -0.750
142. Tony DePillo 9.000 -0.750
146. Jeffrey Kobylski 9.043 -0.707
147. Chuck Comella 9.045 -0.705
150. Steve Kent 9.118 -0.632
155. Mark Howes 9.195 -0.555
156. Don Bales 9.238 -0.512
21. Charlie Westcott Jr. 8.699 -1.051
57. Mark Vieira 8.779 -0.971
70. David Barton 8.800 -0.950
74. John Rains 8.813 -0.937
83. Jim Daniels 8.839 -0.911
85. Larry Woo 8.841 -0.909
87. Jim Pancake 8.842 -0.908
91. Darrell Marvel 8.850 -0.900
93. Bucky Hess 8.863 -0.887
96. Randy Warford 8.867 -0.883
103. Bob Wolkwitz 8.882 -0.868
107. Rick Houser 8.898 -0.852
108. J Allen Sherman 8.899 -0.851
111. Jim Keyes 8.908 -0.842
117. Wendell Howes 8.917 -0.833
123. Kevin Helms 8.924 -0.826
126. Bill Brooks 8.935 -0.815
--------- Not Qualified ---------
134. Al Smyth 8.968 -0.782
135. Dave Raybourn 8.975 -0.775
136. Joe Teuton Jr. 8.975 -0.775
141. Gary Wolkwitz 9.000 -0.750
142. Tony DePillo 9.000 -0.750
146. Jeffrey Kobylski 9.043 -0.707
147. Chuck Comella 9.045 -0.705
150. Steve Kent 9.118 -0.632
155. Mark Howes 9.195 -0.555
156. Don Bales 9.238 -0.512
Posted By: 68Fastback
Re: 1st round qualifying at the BIG GO! - 08/27/08 11:41 PM
Wow the Westcott's did their homework.
Quote:
19. Charlie Westcott 8.690 -1.060
21. Charlie Westcott Jr. 8.699 -1.051
57. Mark Vieira 8.779 -0.971
70. David Barton 8.800 -0.950
74. John Rains 8.813 -0.937
83. Jim Daniels 8.839 -0.911
85. Larry Woo 8.841 -0.909
87. Jim Pancake 8.842 -0.908
91. Darrell Marvel 8.850 -0.900
93. Bucky Hess 8.863 -0.887
96. Randy Warford 8.867 -0.883
103. Bob Wolkwitz 8.882 -0.868
107. Rick Houser 8.898 -0.852
108. J Allen Sherman 8.899 -0.851
111. Jim Keyes 8.908 -0.842
117. Wendell Howes 8.917 -0.833
123. Kevin Helms 8.924 -0.826
126. Bill Brooks 8.935 -0.815
--------- Not Qualified ---------
134. Al Smyth 8.968 -0.782
135. Dave Raybourn 8.975 -0.775
136. Joe Teuton Jr. 8.975 -0.775
141. Gary Wolkwitz 9.000 -0.750
142. Tony DePillo 9.000 -0.750
146. Jeffrey Kobylski 9.043 -0.707
147. Chuck Comella 9.045 -0.705
150. Steve Kent 9.118 -0.632
155. Mark Howes 9.195 -0.555
156. Don Bales 9.238 -0.512
Posted By: J_BODY
Re: 1st round qualifying at the BIG GO! - 08/28/08 01:47 AM
WTG Mark Vierra!
Posted By: jake4cars
Re: 1st round qualifying at the BIG GO! - 08/28/08 04:39 AM
I hope Bucky gets some luck going his way, he sure deserves it for what he has been through lately.
Joey
Joey
Posted By: Jared_Jordan
Re: 1st round qualifying at the BIG GO! - 08/28/08 04:58 AM
Quote:
WTG Mark Vierra!
I agree!
Posted By: HemiDart68
Re: 1st round qualifying at the BIG GO! - 08/28/08 11:48 AM
Do all of the hemi cars get to race for class (shootout) or do they have to qualify for the superstock field?
Posted By: 64ssmax
Re: 1st round qualifying at the BIG GO! - 08/28/08 12:59 PM
Quote:
Do all of the hemi cars get to race for class (shootout) or do they have to qualify for the superstock field?
I just dug into this. Yes they do. The last round of qualifying is the the begining of class runoffs.
Posted By: NDragster
Re: 1st round qualifying at the BIG GO! - 08/28/08 02:39 PM
Just to clarify...
All of the SS/AH Hemi cars get to participate in Friday's Mopar Hemi Challenge.
You must be one of the 128 quickest qualifiers in order to participate in U.S. Nationals eliminations, which begin on Sunday morning.
All of the SS/AH Hemi cars get to participate in Friday's Mopar Hemi Challenge.
You must be one of the 128 quickest qualifiers in order to participate in U.S. Nationals eliminations, which begin on Sunday morning.
Posted By: VernMotor
Re: 1st round qualifying at the BIG GO! - 08/28/08 09:36 PM
I see just went a .63....yikes
just went a .63....yikes
Posted By: HemiDart68
Re: 3rd round qualifying at the BIG GO! - 08/28/08 10:27 PM
17 Charlie Westcott Jr. 8.631 -1.119
34 Charlie Westcott 8.684 -1.066
53 John Rains 8.737 -1.013
67 Darrell Marvel 8.759 -0.991
70 Mark Vieira 8.767 -0.983
73 Jim Daniels 8.77 -0.98
76 Bucky Hess 8.776 -0.974
82 Randy Warford 8.783 -0.967
89 David Barton 8.8 -0.95
103 Rick Houser 8.822 -0.928
110 Dave Raybourn 8.84 -0.91
111 Jim Pancake 8.84 -0.91
112 Larry Woo 8.841 -0.909
125 Bob Wolkwitz 8.882 -0.868
127 Al Smyth 8.892 -0.858
128 J Allen Sherman 8.899 -0.851
--------- Not Qualified ---------
129 Wendell Howes 8.903 -0.847
132 Jim Keyes 8.908 -0.842
134 Kevin Helms 8.924 -0.826
136 Bill Brooks 8.935 -0.815
139 Joe Teuton Jr. 8.944 -0.806
143 Don Bales 8.956 -0.794
149 Gary Wolkwitz 9.000 -0.75
150 Tony DePillo 9.000 -0.75
153 Mark Howes 9.009 -0.741
154 Jeffrey Kobylski 9.043 -0.707
155 Chuck Comella 9.045 -0.705
160 Steve Kent 9.118 -0.632
34 Charlie Westcott 8.684 -1.066
53 John Rains 8.737 -1.013
67 Darrell Marvel 8.759 -0.991
70 Mark Vieira 8.767 -0.983
73 Jim Daniels 8.77 -0.98
76 Bucky Hess 8.776 -0.974
82 Randy Warford 8.783 -0.967
89 David Barton 8.8 -0.95
103 Rick Houser 8.822 -0.928
110 Dave Raybourn 8.84 -0.91
111 Jim Pancake 8.84 -0.91
112 Larry Woo 8.841 -0.909
125 Bob Wolkwitz 8.882 -0.868
127 Al Smyth 8.892 -0.858
128 J Allen Sherman 8.899 -0.851
--------- Not Qualified ---------
129 Wendell Howes 8.903 -0.847
132 Jim Keyes 8.908 -0.842
134 Kevin Helms 8.924 -0.826
136 Bill Brooks 8.935 -0.815
139 Joe Teuton Jr. 8.944 -0.806
143 Don Bales 8.956 -0.794
149 Gary Wolkwitz 9.000 -0.75
150 Tony DePillo 9.000 -0.75
153 Mark Howes 9.009 -0.741
154 Jeffrey Kobylski 9.043 -0.707
155 Chuck Comella 9.045 -0.705
160 Steve Kent 9.118 -0.632
Posted By: Defbob
Re: 1st round qualifying at the BIG GO! - 08/28/08 10:28 PM
glad to see Bucky qualified
Posted By: Jared_Jordan
Re: Wescott Engine Paint? - 08/28/08 10:42 PM
Posted By: MikeCompTA 57
Final order - 08/28/08 11:19 PM
1 3651 SS/AH Charlie Westcott Jr., Parma MI, '68 Barrac 8.631 9.75 -1.119
2 3036 SS/AH Charlie Westcott, Parma MI, '68 Barracuda 8.684 9.75 -1.066
3 799J SS/AH John Rains, Santa Paula CA, '68 Dart 8.737 9.75 -1.013
4 3516 SS/AH Darrell Marvel, Big Rapids MI, '68 Barracu 8.759 9.75 -0.991
5 7005 SS/AH Mark Viera, Turlock CA, '68 Dart 8.767 9.75 -0.983
6 1517 SS/AH Jim Daniels, Bristol PA, '68 Dart 8.770 9.75 -0.980
7 1798 SS/AH Bucky Hess, Bunker Hill WV, '68 Barracuda 8.776 9.75 -0.974
8 3410 SS/AH Randy Warford, Nashville IN, '68 Barracuda 8.783 9.75 -0.967
9 1990 SS/AH David Barton, Robesonia PA, '68 Barracuda 8.800 9.75 -0.950
10 721 SS/AH Rick Houser, Pasadena CA, '68 Barracuda 8.822 9.75 -0.928
11 720 SS/AH Dave Raybourn, Modesto CA, '68 Barracuda 8.840 9.75 -0.910
12 350 SS/AH Jim Pancake, Delaware OH, '68 Dart 8.840 9.75 -0.910
13 3500 SS/AH Larry Woo, Birmingham MI, '68 Barracuda 8.841 9.75 -0.909
14 1954 SS/AH Bob Wolkwitz, Darien CT, '68 Barracuda 8.882 9.75 -0.868
15 1960 SS/AH Al Smyth, Uxbridge MA, '68 Barracuda 8.892 9.75 -0.858
16 4446 SS/AH J Allen Sherman, Donaldsonville LA, '68 Ba 8.899 9.75 -0.851
17 138 SS/AH Wendell Howes, Rathesby NB, '68 Barracuda 8.903 9.75 -0.847
18 304 SS/AH Jim Keyes, Durand MI, '68 Barracuda 8.908 9.75 -0.842
19 428 SS/AH Kevin Helms, Belle Rose LA, '68 Barracuda 8.924 9.75 -0.826
20 2354 SS/AH Bill Brooks, Kissimmee FL, '68 Barracuda 8.935 9.75 -0.815
21 4426 SS/AH Joe Teuton Jr., Houma LA, '68 Barracuda 8.944 9.75 -0.806
22 3392 SS/AH Don Bales, Connersville IN, '68 Barracuda 8.956 9.75 -0.794
23 1945 SS/AH Gary Wolkwitz, Annandale NJ, '68 Dart 9.000 9.75 -0.750
24 364 SS/AH Tony DePillo, Dayton OH, '68 Barracuda 9.000 9.75 -0.750
25 1381 SS/AH Mark Howes, Rothesay NB, '68 Dart 9.009 9.75 -0.741
26 335 SS/AH Jeffrey Kobylski, Macomb Twshp MI, '68 Dart 9.043 9.75 -0.707
27 1968 SS/AH Chuck Comella, Sanibel FL, '68 Dart 9.045 9.75 -0.705
28 452 SS/AH Steve Kent, Lottie LA, '68 Barracuda 9.118 9.75 -0.632
2 3036 SS/AH Charlie Westcott, Parma MI, '68 Barracuda 8.684 9.75 -1.066
3 799J SS/AH John Rains, Santa Paula CA, '68 Dart 8.737 9.75 -1.013
4 3516 SS/AH Darrell Marvel, Big Rapids MI, '68 Barracu 8.759 9.75 -0.991
5 7005 SS/AH Mark Viera, Turlock CA, '68 Dart 8.767 9.75 -0.983
6 1517 SS/AH Jim Daniels, Bristol PA, '68 Dart 8.770 9.75 -0.980
7 1798 SS/AH Bucky Hess, Bunker Hill WV, '68 Barracuda 8.776 9.75 -0.974
8 3410 SS/AH Randy Warford, Nashville IN, '68 Barracuda 8.783 9.75 -0.967
9 1990 SS/AH David Barton, Robesonia PA, '68 Barracuda 8.800 9.75 -0.950
10 721 SS/AH Rick Houser, Pasadena CA, '68 Barracuda 8.822 9.75 -0.928
11 720 SS/AH Dave Raybourn, Modesto CA, '68 Barracuda 8.840 9.75 -0.910
12 350 SS/AH Jim Pancake, Delaware OH, '68 Dart 8.840 9.75 -0.910
13 3500 SS/AH Larry Woo, Birmingham MI, '68 Barracuda 8.841 9.75 -0.909
14 1954 SS/AH Bob Wolkwitz, Darien CT, '68 Barracuda 8.882 9.75 -0.868
15 1960 SS/AH Al Smyth, Uxbridge MA, '68 Barracuda 8.892 9.75 -0.858
16 4446 SS/AH J Allen Sherman, Donaldsonville LA, '68 Ba 8.899 9.75 -0.851
17 138 SS/AH Wendell Howes, Rathesby NB, '68 Barracuda 8.903 9.75 -0.847
18 304 SS/AH Jim Keyes, Durand MI, '68 Barracuda 8.908 9.75 -0.842
19 428 SS/AH Kevin Helms, Belle Rose LA, '68 Barracuda 8.924 9.75 -0.826
20 2354 SS/AH Bill Brooks, Kissimmee FL, '68 Barracuda 8.935 9.75 -0.815
21 4426 SS/AH Joe Teuton Jr., Houma LA, '68 Barracuda 8.944 9.75 -0.806
22 3392 SS/AH Don Bales, Connersville IN, '68 Barracuda 8.956 9.75 -0.794 23 1945 SS/AH Gary Wolkwitz, Annandale NJ, '68 Dart 9.000 9.75 -0.750
24 364 SS/AH Tony DePillo, Dayton OH, '68 Barracuda 9.000 9.75 -0.750
25 1381 SS/AH Mark Howes, Rothesay NB, '68 Dart 9.009 9.75 -0.741
26 335 SS/AH Jeffrey Kobylski, Macomb Twshp MI, '68 Dart 9.043 9.75 -0.707
27 1968 SS/AH Chuck Comella, Sanibel FL, '68 Dart 9.045 9.75 -0.705
28 452 SS/AH Steve Kent, Lottie LA, '68 Barracuda 9.118 9.75 -0.632
Posted By: RedRT
Re: Final order - 08/28/08 11:52 PM
All things considered, for a 28 car field to be seperated by a time of 0.5 second is pretty impressive. Congrats to ALL the SS/AHer's
Historically, CW jr, keeps getting faster each run at the NATS. Suppose we will see it again?
So far yes.
Historically, CW jr, keeps getting faster each run at the NATS. Suppose we will see it again?
So far yes.
Posted By: NDragster
Re: Final order - 08/29/08 04:42 PM
Two rounds of eliminations are in the books and so far, Charlie Westcott Sr. and Jr. are still well ahead of the competition. Both War Fish cars have run well into the 8.6s while most of the other drivers are running low 8.8s. Heading into the third round, here is how the ladder shapes up
Westcott Sr.
Bye
Rains vs Daniels
Westcott Jr. vs Pancake
Marvel vs. Hess
More later on nhra.com
Westcott Sr.
Bye
Rains vs Daniels
Westcott Jr. vs Pancake
Marvel vs. Hess
More later on nhra.com
Posted By: Stk4405
Re: Final order - 08/29/08 08:55 PM
Bucky vs
Westcott Jr
vs Westcott Jr
Posted By: 11secdart
Re: Final order - 08/29/08 09:04 PM
Two Moparts members in the Shoot-Out Challenge Final. Thats Cool!!!
Posted By: REHBERGERRACING
Re: Final order - 08/29/08 09:08 PM
Looks like Charlie has him covered in the et. department. Should be a good race!!
Posted By: Defbob
Re: Final order - 08/29/08 11:01 PM
come on Bucky
Posted By: dthemi
Re: Final order - 08/29/08 11:20 PM
Do any of you guys know if, and when it will be televised?
Posted By: JulieJordan
Re: Final order - 08/29/08 11:32 PM
Quote:
Do any of you guys know if, and when it will be televised?
They quit televising a few years ago.
Congrats Charlie on the win and Bucky for the runner-up! Now tear down tomorrow...fun, fun.
Posted By: Defbob
Re: Final order - 08/29/08 11:45 PM
Quote:Quote:
Do any of you guys know if, and when it will be televised?
They quit televising a few years ago.
Congrats Charlie on the win and Bucky for the runner-up! Now tear down tomorrow...fun, fun.
darn
Posted By: NDragster
Re: Final order - 08/29/08 11:54 PM
Great final round between Hess and Westcott and it was really cool to see how much the fans really respond to the Hemi cars.
A full story should be up on NHRA.com momentarily.
A full story should be up on NHRA.com momentarily.
Posted By: sunroofgtx
Re: Final order - 08/30/08 12:02 AM
Taken from NHRA.com Don't read if you don't want to...
Charlie Westcott Jr. drove his War Fish Barracuda to the SS/AH class title at Indy for the third time in the last four years. While most of his opponents were running in the 8.8-second zone, Westcott, and his father, Charlie Sr., were cranking out 8.6-second runs with alarming consistency. In the final round Charlie Jr., defeated his old nemesis Bucky Hess, 8.65 to 8.86.
Charlie Westcott Jr. drove his War Fish Barracuda to the SS/AH class title at Indy for the third time in the last four years. While most of his opponents were running in the 8.8-second zone, Westcott, and his father, Charlie Sr., were cranking out 8.6-second runs with alarming consistency. In the final round Charlie Jr., defeated his old nemesis Bucky Hess, 8.65 to 8.86.
Posted By: cgall
Re: Final order - 08/30/08 12:25 AM
Pancake ripped a .016 on Charlie Sr. in round 3 and held him off for the win. The stands were less than 1/4 full, but a roar went up after that one, much louder than anything heard at Lucas Oil Stadium last night.
Don Bales should win best engineered or best appearing, maybe both.
Congrats to War Fish on the win, he really had them covered today.
Don Bales should win best engineered or best appearing, maybe both.
Congrats to War Fish on the win, he really had them covered today.
Posted By: 11secdart
Re: Final order - 08/30/08 12:30 AM
Congrats CW on the win!! Good job! and Congrats to Bucky for the R/U
Posted By: sunroofgtx
Re: Final order - 08/30/08 12:39 AM
I really wish somebody would cover this stuff on a tv channel. These races have to be amazing to watch. . The engineering and teamwork that goes into each of these cars is mindblowing. Especially for 40 year old cars.. How did Danny Smith do ? Was the 67 Hemi Native American RO Coronet there ? So CW won the 10 g's for the Mopar HP challenge ? Congrat s Charlie and Bucky to make it to the finals. Man I wish I could watch 30 of these things race. Hopefully Norwalk will have a bunch in 2 weeks..
Posted By: 383man
Re: Final order - 08/30/08 01:45 AM
Congrats to Charlie and Bucky. Wish I was there but I will see them in Oct at the Dutch Classic in PA. Ron
Wish I was there but I will see them in Oct at the Dutch Classic in PA. Ron
Posted By: sshemifan
Re: Final order - 08/30/08 02:54 AM
Congrats to CW for the win, and Bucky for the r/u, after his towing "excitement", glad to see him get that far. Regards, John
Posted By: cgall
Re: Final order - 08/30/08 03:31 AM
Another comment from today, I noticed that many of the cars were running small-ish M/T radials.
Warfish was shod with GY's.
Warfish was shod with GY's.
Posted By: KD800X
Re: Final order - 08/30/08 03:41 AM
Quote:
I really wish somebody would cover this stuff on a tv channel. These races have to be amazing to watch. . The engineering and teamwork that goes into each of these cars is mindblowing. Especially for 40 year old cars.. How did Danny Smith do ? Was the 67 Hemi Native American RO Coronet there ? So CW won the 10 g's for the Mopar HP challenge ? Congrat s Charlie and Bucky to make it to the finals. Man I wish I could watch 30 of these things race. Hopefully Norwalk will have a bunch in 2 weeks..
I think Danny's Motor is still down. That's why He didn't have Blackie at the Hemi Reunion.
Posted By: HEMIDARTS
Re: Final order - 08/30/08 06:15 AM
Well i just got home from the HEMI shootout.
And it was amazing!!! I have the whole entire thing on video, including an introduction lap around the staging lanes that all of the cars drove in.
CW Jr. had the field covered, but Bucky gave it his best shot.
I was at half track for the final and from my point of view it looked like Bucky had him at half track, and Jr. pulled on him big time on the top end. That says a lot for both guys, so good job to both of you.
It was great to hang out with you and your crew all day long Bucky. And it was even fun "pushing" you up into the lanes.
This is just my opinion, but with the way Bucky was driving today, if he had his good bullet in the car, i FIRMLY believe he would have won. But i will let him tell his own buisness.
As always the HEMI shootout is just outstanding!!
And it was amazing!!! I have the whole entire thing on video, including an introduction lap around the staging lanes that all of the cars drove in.
CW Jr. had the field covered, but Bucky gave it his best shot.
I was at half track for the final and from my point of view it looked like Bucky had him at half track, and Jr. pulled on him big time on the top end. That says a lot for both guys, so good job to both of you.
It was great to hang out with you and your crew all day long Bucky. And it was even fun "pushing" you up into the lanes.
This is just my opinion, but with the way Bucky was driving today, if he had his good bullet in the car, i FIRMLY believe he would have won. But i will let him tell his own buisness.
As always the HEMI shootout is just outstanding!!
Posted By: MrSixpack
Re: Final order - 08/30/08 08:45 AM
HEMIDARTS please put it on youtube and show us the video
Posted By: ichsam
Re: Final order - 08/30/08 12:13 PM
donnie car looks great r u having shirts made ??
Posted By: 340Cuda
Re: Final order - 08/30/08 03:47 PM
vs An all Moparts final!
Lots to be impressed with at this race. I guess Charlie Sr's 155 mph runs got my attention the most.
If anyone is out there with ESPN, this is a DVD I would buy!
Bill
Posted By: moparmanjr
Re: Final order - 08/30/08 04:14 PM
bucky is awsome thanks for letting us hang out at the trailer all day long we had a great time even pushing you up in the lanes for the semis
Posted By: bigtimeauto
Re: Final order - 08/30/08 05:49 PM
here is a link to a article and some pics:
http://www.competitionplus.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=7624&Itemid=6
http://www.competitionplus.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=7624&Itemid=6
Posted By: bigtimeauto
Re: Final order - 08/30/08 05:51 PM
Quote:
here is a link to a article and some pics:
http://www.competitionplus.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=7624&Itemid=6
i have a soft spots for for darts
Posted By: MFR440
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 08/30/08 08:55 PM
Congrats to the Hemi Militia for blowing away the competition!
Congrats also to our friend, Darrell Marvel. Darrell stepped up to qualify #4 with an 8.75, then cooked a killer steak dinner to which he invited all the Hemi teams - well over 120 people!
Darrell won two rounds in the Challenge before a faulty valve cover gasket ended his day. Man, it was fun getting a little dirty between rounds working on his awesome Hemi Cuda!
I met several Moparts members (Jeff-moderncylinder), and said Hi to a few that I already knew. (Mark - Canuck, Jake68-Gary "Jake") amongst others.
Thanks to Darrell and Patti, and the rest of the Hemi competitors for yet another fun-filled Hemi Challenge at Indy!
P.S.
I forgot! A special thanks to Mike (mr2performance) for providing the steaks for Darrell's dinner on Thursday. He then pitched in to help Darrell during the Challenge on Friday.
I think Don Bales and MR2 ROBBED of the Best Engineered trophy!
Congrats also to our friend, Darrell Marvel. Darrell stepped up to qualify #4 with an 8.75, then cooked a killer steak dinner to which he invited all the Hemi teams - well over 120 people!
Darrell won two rounds in the Challenge before a faulty valve cover gasket ended his day. Man, it was fun getting a little dirty between rounds working on his awesome Hemi Cuda!
I met several Moparts members (Jeff-moderncylinder), and said Hi to a few that I already knew. (Mark - Canuck, Jake68-Gary "Jake") amongst others.
Thanks to Darrell and Patti, and the rest of the Hemi competitors for yet another fun-filled Hemi Challenge at Indy!
P.S.
I forgot! A special thanks to Mike (mr2performance) for providing the steaks for Darrell's dinner on Thursday.
He then pitched in to help Darrell during the Challenge on Friday. I think Don Bales and MR2 ROBBED of the Best Engineered trophy!
Posted By: MFR440
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 08/30/08 08:57 PM
Canuck
Posted By: HEMIDARTS
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 08/30/08 08:57 PM
I have just got done editing all of the video i took, and now i am in the process of uploading it to you tube. I will post the links when they are uploaded.
Posted By: MFR440
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 08/30/08 08:58 PM
Jake68 walking past moderncylinder's (Jeff) Dart:
Posted By: MFR440
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 08/30/08 09:00 PM
Posted By: VernMotor
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 08/31/08 12:02 AM
and get to run each other first round of S/S ...lol
Posted By: 70AARcuda
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 08/31/08 01:05 AM
jon asher wrote an article about the hemi challenge
http://www.competitionplus.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=7628&Itemid=7
http://www.competitionplus.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=7628&Itemid=7
Posted By: 383man
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 08/31/08 02:38 AM
Thanks Tony as it has 12 pages of SS/AH pics !! Ron
Ron
Posted By: Phil Saran
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 08/31/08 03:46 AM
SunroofGTX asked about TV coverage of Indy.
ESPN2 has coverage of "qualifing" both Sun and Monday. Of course we will NOT see a single door car in the bunch unless they show some of Pro Stock.
The cars we love (Stock/Superstock) no way will the TV people show what we want to see.
We will have to do with the wonderfull work of
our friends here on moparts.com and hopefully
some one will put out a DVD for us to purchase
in time.
God, I hope what I've written can be proven WRONG.
ESPN2 has coverage of "qualifing" both Sun and Monday. Of course we will NOT see a single door car in the bunch unless they show some of Pro Stock.
The cars we love (Stock/Superstock) no way will the TV people show what we want to see.
We will have to do with the wonderfull work of
our friends here on moparts.com and hopefully
some one will put out a DVD for us to purchase
in time.
God, I hope what I've written can be proven WRONG.
Posted By: HEMIDARTS
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 08/31/08 05:11 AM
Ok i am finally done uploading all of these videos. You tube is very slow on loading files, and then they make the video look like junk. I apologise for the crappy quality of the video, but it is not that way on my digital camera.
HEMI parade through the staging lanes
HEMI shootout round 1 part 1
HEMI shootout round 1 part 2
HEMI shootout round 2
HEMI shootout round 3 semis
HEMI shootout round 4 finals
i hope you enjoy. and sorry for youtubes crappy quality.
HEMI parade through the staging lanes
HEMI shootout round 1 part 1
HEMI shootout round 1 part 2
HEMI shootout round 2
HEMI shootout round 3 semis
HEMI shootout round 4 finals
i hope you enjoy. and sorry for youtubes crappy quality.
Posted By: 68Fastback
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock Indy - 08/31/08 05:44 AM
Matthew thanks for video, that was a great show.
Posted By: HEMIDARTS
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock Indy - 08/31/08 07:30 AM
You are very welcome. I am glad you enjoyed it.
I am glad you enjoyed it.
Posted By: Phil Saran
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock Indy - 08/31/08 07:33 AM
Matthew, thanks for sharing the videos.
As I posted earlier, I wasted an hour watching
qualifing from Indy on ESPN2 that I recorded.
The closes thing to a door car they showed was
Pro Stock.
As I posted earlier, I wasted an hour watching
qualifing from Indy on ESPN2 that I recorded.
The closes thing to a door car they showed was
Pro Stock.
Posted By: J_BODY
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock Indy - 08/31/08 07:36 AM
Quote:
Matthew thanks for video, that was a great show.
Yes....thanks for the effort you put into filming/downloading etc! The CW machines just plain have their program down!!
Posted By: dan1320
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock Indy - 08/31/08 12:55 PM
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Matthew thanks for video, that was a great show.
Yes....thanks for the effort you put into filming/downloading etc! The CW machines just plain have their program down!!
X 3!
Posted By: KD800X
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 08/31/08 01:53 PM
HemiDarts,
Thanks for the videos!!! Great Job!
I think SS/AH should be part of the TV coverage...Who Agrees?
Thanks for the videos!!! Great Job!
I think SS/AH should be part of the TV coverage...Who Agrees?
Posted By: SSAAHemiFan
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 08/31/08 03:02 PM
Thanks for the videos... The "Parade" was awesome
Posted By: Dave Watt
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 08/31/08 08:32 PM
I believe in this mornings NHRA raceday show, they said the Hemi Shootout would be part of the Sportsman coverage shown next Sunday at 10am Eastern time.
Also, they showed Warfish coming off the line using their super slow motion camera, 600 frames per second?
It was really cool to see a wheels up Hemi Super Stocker like that.
Congratulations CW.
Also, they showed Warfish coming off the line using their super slow motion camera, 600 frames per second?
It was really cool to see a wheels up Hemi Super Stocker like that.
Congratulations CW.
Posted By: MFR440
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/01/08 03:53 AM
Thanks for posting the vids! I haven't had a chance to put mine together yet.
Sorry I got in your shot, too!
Sorry I got in your shot, too!
Posted By: HEMIDARTS
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/01/08 04:48 AM
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Thanks for posting the vids! I haven't had a chance to put mine together yet.
Sorry I got in your shot, too!
No problem. I am glad everyone is enjoying the videos.
I really wish that youtube did not make them look so crappy, i do apologise for that.
There are so many people on here that post pictures and videos from all of the events,
i am just glad i could return the favor atleast once or twice.
Posted By: MrSixpack
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/01/08 06:44 AM
Awesome videos, great work
Posted By: 383man
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/01/08 03:45 PM
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Awesome videos, great work
X2.
Ron
Posted By: wildcargo
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/01/08 08:36 PM
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Ok i am finally done uploading all of these videos. You tube is very slow on loading files, and then they make the video look like junk. I apologise for the crappy quality of the video, but it is not that way on my digital camera.
HEMI parade through the staging lanes
HEMI shootout round 1 part 1
HEMI shootout round 1 part 2
HEMI shootout round 2
HEMI shootout round 3 semis
HEMI shootout round 4 finals
i hope you enjoy. and sorry for youtubes crappy quality.
I hate dial up
Posted By: 540dust
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/02/08 02:21 AM
Awesome, thanks for the
Vids.
Vids.
Posted By: HEMIDARTS
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/02/08 02:50 AM
I am glad everyone is enjoying the vids. I just noticed that there is an option to watch the vids in standard mode or high quality mode, if you choose high quality it is a little better. click right under the volume where it says high quality.
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/02/08 05:17 PM
Congrats You deserve it........ I lost in second round -.001 lite.Heading for charlotte next.Didn't Darryl Marvel do well.
You deserve it........ I lost in second round -.001 lite.Heading for charlotte next.Didn't Darryl Marvel do well.
Posted By: mr2performance
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/02/08 06:44 PM
Congrats to Charlie, Bucky, and Darrell having a great week at the nats. Good to see the west coast guys out here as well. Mike
Posted By: JulieJordan
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/02/08 07:06 PM
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Congrats to Charlie, Bucky, and Darrell having a great week at the nats. Good to see the west coast guys out here as well. Mike
Mike ~ Bales car should have got Best Engineered. You guys got screwed! LOL Beautiful car, can't wait to see it in person.
Posted By: mr2performance
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/02/08 07:12 PM
Thanks, Julie there is a lot of work in that car. Mike
Posted By: MikeCompTA 57
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/02/08 09:43 PM
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Mike ~ Bales car should have got Best Engineered. You guys got screwed! Beautiful car.
Posted By: HemiDart68
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/03/08 12:45 AM
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Mike ~ Bales car should have got Best Engineered. You guys got screwed! Beautiful car.
Best appearing would probably have been just as appropriate. That is one of the nicest race cars i have ever seen.
Posted By: J_BODY
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/03/08 01:26 AM
THAT'S the UNDER HOOD of a RACE CAR?!?! WoW!!
....yeah we know, shine don't make em fast, but that's pretty impressive for a car that actually gets used.
....yeah we know
, shine don't make em fast, but that's pretty impressive for a car that actually gets used.
Posted By: warfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/03/08 01:28 AM
I had 3 people call me to tell me I had a heads up run with KK2 first rd. My dad had to get home and start a job sunday, so we left saturday. Why dont you go to norwalk next week instead of charlotte? would you rather bracket race than race for 5K at a hemi shootout? Show up on saturday, and leave saturday night. I think the chrysler classic events are a blast. Plus they have cheap ice cream at norwalk.
Who on here is going to that race? mr2, marvell, I think henson is coming, woo and rains will be there.
thanks for all the people that stopped over and said hi, and bought shirts. we sold about twice as many as usual.
thanks
cw
Who on here is going to that race? mr2, marvell, I think henson is coming, woo and rains will be there.
thanks for all the people that stopped over and said hi, and bought shirts. we sold about twice as many as usual.
thanks
cw
Posted By: warfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/03/08 01:31 AM
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THAT'S the UNDER HOOD of a RACE CAR?!?! WoW!!
....yeah we know
I thought of about 3 smart remarks for that one, but I will keep them to myself.
I asked the tech dept if they could give me the "worst appearing car award" they thought that was funny.
cw
Posted By: VernMotor
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/03/08 01:34 AM
YEA Come to norwalk..and play with us mopar guys !!!!!
Come to norwalk..and play with us mopar guys !!!!!
Posted By: Ben Holt
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/03/08 02:16 AM
Congrats Charlie, an absolutely impressive showing this weekend...just have to get your dad a bottle of No-Doze huh!!!
Mike, it was really cool to see you again and hang out with you guys. Tha car is something else, man. It's guys like Don Bales, and Darrell, and Pancake(of course) and all the other Hemi guys that make this racing so much fun.
And I absolutely agree with Charlie. Screw that Charlotte crap. Come to Norwalk!!!!!! You won't be treated better, have more fun, or win better money than coming to a Classic event. It's ten times better than a National Event (besides Indy).
My .02 guys.....got to go put a bottle in the Dart to keep up wit the WARFISH!!!!!
Mike, it was really cool to see you again and hang out with you guys. Tha car is something else, man. It's guys like Don Bales, and Darrell, and Pancake(of course) and all the other Hemi guys that make this racing so much fun.
And I absolutely agree with Charlie. Screw that Charlotte crap. Come to Norwalk!!!!!! You won't be treated better, have more fun, or win better money than coming to a Classic event. It's ten times better than a National Event (besides Indy).
My .02 guys.....got to go put a bottle in the Dart to keep up wit the WARFISH!!!!!
Posted By: J_BODY
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/03/08 04:19 AM
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I thought of about 3 smart remarks for that one, but I will keep them to myself.
Can't believe you let that one go!
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/03/08 12:04 PM
Can we dial in?.... because thats the only way I have a chance with this motor.Should have ran a 8.76 against you but tried to many things......
because thats the only way I have a chance with this motor.Should have ran a 8.76 against you but tried to many things......
Posted By: warfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/04/08 01:15 AM
I should have ran a 55, but I was in "bracket mode"
I hope the CC guy has a good turnout, he really tries hard.
does anyone have a good pic of Comella I can use on my website? How bout his 83 on friday. slight improvement since his last engine builder gave him a 9.60 piece last year.
I hope the CC guy has a good turnout, he really tries hard.
does anyone have a good pic of Comella I can use on my website? How bout his 83 on friday. slight improvement since his last engine builder gave him a 9.60 piece last year.
Posted By: bigtimeauto
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/04/08 03:53 AM
Posted By: MFR440
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/04/08 04:47 AM
That's a great shot of Comella's Dart! Did you take that photo? Or did you TAKE that photo?
Here's one I took, that isn't nearly as good, but I don't make my living from photography, and therefore don't mind if my photos are "borrowed". Probably not good enough for the Westcott website, but thought I would share.
Here's one I took, that isn't nearly as good, but I don't make my living from photography, and therefore don't mind if my photos are "borrowed". Probably not good enough for the Westcott website, but thought I would share.
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/04/08 12:35 PM
Touchet.....
Posted By: mr2performance
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/04/08 12:55 PM
I thought Warford's 67 was pretty good considering it carried the wheels 250 feet. Easily could have been a low 60 or high 50. Mike
Posted By: bigtimeauto
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/04/08 01:40 PM
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That's a great shot of Comella's Dart! Did you take that photo? Or did you TAKE that photo?
Here's one I took, that isn't nearly as good, but I don't make my living from photography, and therefore don't mind if my photos are "borrowed". Probably not good enough for the Westcott website, but thought I would share.
I took it off of competiton plus's site. If i was next to his car at indy i would have just bought it and brought it home!
Posted By: bigtimeauto
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/04/08 01:46 PM
Here is the link: http://www.competitionplus.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=7624&Itemid=6
Roger richards took it. I'm sure if you contact him you can get permission to use it on your site.
Posted By: MFR440
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/04/08 01:47 PM
Posted By: crc
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/04/08 04:13 PM
Nice photos Brian. Thanks for sharing.
Posted By: MFR440
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/05/08 01:23 PM
I heard from a semi-reliable source that Darrell Marvel will be at Norwalk for the Chrysler Classic. Fred Henson is planning to be there also!
C'mon, - join the party!
source that Darrell Marvel will be at Norwalk for the Chrysler Classic. Fred Henson is planning to be there also!C'mon,
- join the party!
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/05/08 04:47 PM
I don't have anything for the yet....
yet....
Posted By: cgall
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/05/08 04:57 PM
Bales was shafted out of the best engineered/best appearing awards. I looked at the dragster that won BE, it was a plain-jane FED with black rattle-can paint. I guess the tech men were impressed with the inline six cylinder and manual trans. The BA award car had very nice paint, but was one of many cookie-cutter Cobalts out there.
The detail and creativity on the Connersville Bullet are outstanding, shame on NHRA.
The detail and creativity on the Connersville Bullet are outstanding, shame on NHRA.
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/05/08 05:07 PM
I agree the silver bullet car is top of line. He and Mike should be very proud,But quoting the from Indy no one is within 60 h.p. of him some might as well sell there cars ....
from Indy no one is within 60 h.p. of him some might as well sell there cars ....
Posted By: Troy
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/05/08 05:33 PM
Is making good power but so is Greg Anderson and he went out early. It's Drag Racing......anything can happen.
Posted By: Defbob
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/05/08 08:40 PM
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I agree the silver bullet car is top of line. He and Mike should be very proud,But quoting the
, how bad was your Indy motor? short block or whole thing?
Posted By: warfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/05/08 09:14 PM
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there is probably more to the story of why the SB didnt get any awards. I will not go there, but the involved parties know what happened. I am a little dissapointed that the "king" wants to dial in, Troy is right, anything can happen, and I'll bet Ronnie Sox never wouldnt skip a real race for a bracket race.
later
cw
Posted By: JAKE68
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/05/08 10:00 PM
Charlie congrats to you on your Indy win. You realy had the field covered in the hp. department. Nice job. See you at norwalk. Jake
Posted By: 68shifter
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/06/08 01:21 AM
CW, heres a couple shots of the Comella's car. Congrats, and great racing. I'm 24 and have been going to INDY for 15 consecutive years and the Hemi shooutout brings me down a day early every year for some of the best racing of the weekend.
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Posted By: 68shifter
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/06/08 01:23 AM
Comella vs. Woo
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Posted By: Anonymous
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/06/08 02:05 AM
jim daniels 8.647 at 153.13
at 28 hundred feet
at 28 hundred feet
Posted By: VernMotor
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/06/08 02:14 AM
Wellcome Jim !
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/06/08 02:20 AM
look at this
Posted By: Ben Holt
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/06/08 02:44 AM
I've got to toot a horn a little bit here.....THere's no doubt that Charlie's bullet picked up Comella....a ton. But that wouldn't have come to fruition if there hadn't been a little suspension tweaking Thursday night. Dad absolutely nailed that thing, and he might have went a few more rounds without that red 2nd round.
Just wanted to give John Holt a little props for his suspension mastery...
Just wanted to give John Holt a little props for his suspension mastery...
Posted By: sshemifan
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/06/08 11:05 AM
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I've got to toot a horn a little bit here.....THere's no doubt that Charlie's bullet picked up Comella....a ton. But that wouldn't have come to fruition if there hadn't been a little suspension tweaking Thursday night. Dad absolutely nailed that thing, and he might have went a few more rounds without that red 2nd round.
Just wanted to give John Holt a little props for his suspension mastery...
Props to CW and John Holt---I just think its cool that Chuck's car is running so well!!!
Regards, John
Posted By: island hemi
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/06/08 11:20 AM
Ben you are 100% correct. I would like to thank the Wescotts Charlie Senior and Junior who worked ther butt off on my car and Carl Robinson from Mickey Thompson tire and John and Ben Holt. Thanks again Chuck
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/06/08 03:41 PM
David Barton in the stock ran a 10.28
David Barton in Super stock ran a 8.74
Jim Daniels in Super Stock ran a 8.67
David Barton in Super stock ran a 8.74
Jim Daniels in Super Stock ran a 8.67
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/06/08 06:45 PM
I would never want to dial in a hemi car it was a joke.But why should I come to a race to get my a$$ handed to me?Remember indy..... Nice goin Jim
Posted By: Ben Holt
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/06/08 07:27 PM
Because the money is right, Bucky. They pay back to I believe the quarters. Last year, only four guys showed up. Both Westcotts, Woo, and Pancake. He guaranteed the payout, and paid, with cash I believe, with a big smile on his face. Plus, you get treated like gold, best parking, pretty much run when you want, and the fans are awesome. Go to Charlotte and dial in? To be home on Saturday anyways with fuel and entry fees pissed away? I'd go to Norwalk in a heartbeat. Plus, it's racing. If you thought you're bracket piece didn't stand a chance against CW, why did you even go to Indy?
Posted By: Troublemaker427
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/06/08 07:49 PM
Quote:Quote:
I've got to toot a horn a little bit here.....THere's no doubt that Charlie's bullet picked up Comella....a ton. But that wouldn't have come to fruition if there hadn't been a little suspension tweaking Thursday night. Dad absolutely nailed that thing, and he might have went a few more rounds without that red 2nd round.
Just wanted to give John Holt a little props for his suspension mastery...
Props to CW and John Holt---I just think its cool that Chuck's car is running so well!!!
Regards, John
It is cool he is running good and a "real Hemi" car to boot!!! Now I'd love to see Friel's car out!!!
Posted By: island hemi
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/06/08 08:17 PM
John was coming back 3 years ago new motorhome new trailer had the car updated was going to build a new motor then just never finished it Not sure why. Chuck
Posted By: 68Fastback
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/06/08 08:44 PM
Chuck your car looks great, honestly they all do and glad to see it running hard. Mind me asking how much you had to change around going with a wescott motor.
Jesse
Jesse
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/06/08 09:56 PM
why would someone go to indy to just race in a hemi shoot out.it's indy.my dad would rather win on monday and get the big wally than the 10 grand.he's been at this way before shootouts.see how many purpose built shoot out cars go up for sale when mopar bails out.most guys driving them can't race the finish line .indy class is a big deal to him of course,bigger than any race.but he likes it all.
Posted By: warfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/06/08 10:43 PM
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Chuck your car looks great, honestly they all do and glad to see it running hard. Mind me asking how much you had to change around going with a wescott motor.
Jesse
we had to raise the hood to make room for the camshaft location.
I just talked to henson, he said he is ready to put the motor back in and go to norwalk. should be a good show. are any of the pensylvania hitters coming over?
later
cw
Posted By: Ben Holt
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/06/08 10:49 PM
That's all well and good, Travis. I know Jim feels the same way. But if you're argument for not supporting a really cool MOPAR only series that treats like gold is because you can't hang, then why bother racing in the shootouts. That's my point. But I also see both sides of the coin.
My main mission is just to get as many cars to Norwalk as possible so everyone can see how cool of a deal it really is.
My main mission is just to get as many cars to Norwalk as possible so everyone can see how cool of a deal it really is.
Posted By: warfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/07/08 01:08 AM
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why would someone go to indy to just race in a hemi shoot out.it's indy.my dad would rather win on monday and get the big wally than the 10 grand.he's been at this way before shootouts.see how many purpose built shoot out cars go up for sale when mopar bails out.most guys driving them can't race the finish line .indy class is a big deal to him of course,bigger than any race.but he likes it all.
I do not want to start another big internet war, but I have a few things to say.
Why would anyone spend 150K+ to build a car to bracket race. I built my car for the heads up racing, we built another one so my dad could do it. I am in the process of building another one now. I (we) do this cause we like to race heads up, no breakout. If I just wanted to bracket race I could do that close to home with a pick-up. Racing in general is driven by the male ego, we all have one, and when things go our way we like to let everyone know how cool we are. When people cant go fast they tell stories about why they should have went X amount faster, and if they had this and that fixed they would have won. I get sick of hearing all of it. It happens every year. Everyone had since bell-rose to get ready for indy, alot of people didnt even attend that race, so they had longer. There is no reason that someone cant be prepared. everyone had the same opportunity that we had. We had about .05 more performance advantage than we usually do. It was mostly related to the weather. I work hard on a hot weather engine package. when the air gets good, the spread will be narrowed considerably. That brings me to point 2. Bucky went the 8.46 with the "bracket motor" last year. now it is a dog. I dont get it. evidently it is a good air motor.
As far as purpose built cars, you guys just got one, mine is turning into one of the older cars anymore since it was built in 03. My Gary Jennings chassis works just fine, and if people were more interested in winning the race, instead of a car show, they should call him.
cw
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/07/08 03:11 AM
well,forget i ever said any thing...it's hard to make a point on a keypad.it just seems like most of these cars just came out in force about 5 or 6 years ago.dad won the very 1st "MOPAR" shoot out.,so i think he can hang.although chuck kicked his butt this year, he drove well to get to the final.and his car was purpose built,to race.not just a shoot out.and charlie is right,that motor is a good air motor.it looks like it can't run in the heat.charlies dad said"that's all the boy does" is work on his car.and it shows....he's fast wherever he goes.maybe we should just put the car in car shows.
Posted By: ksj
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/07/08 05:00 AM
For not wanting to start an internet war.seems like
Posted By: nitrojoe
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/07/08 05:05 AM
I'll be up at Norwalk watching, hope its a great show and something good to write about in my Mopar Max column.
Good Luck to all that comes to Norwalk and I hope the hell its more then 4 that showed last year.
Good Luck to all that comes to Norwalk and I hope the hell its more then 4 that showed last year.
Posted By: crc
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/07/08 06:05 AM
Is Larry calling it quit's or going in a different direction?
http://www.oldride.com:80/classic_cars/517837.html
http://www.oldride.com:80/classic_cars/517837.html
Posted By: j oliverio
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/07/08 02:41 PM
I am glad to see Chuck running good. He is a class act. Is car is a beauty.
Posted By: island hemi
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/07/08 03:09 PM
Thanks John You coming to the Dutch?
Posted By: 65hardtop
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/07/08 03:21 PM
cw why don't you try to build a pro stock car instead of building another super A car?
Posted By: warfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/07/08 05:54 PM
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cw why don't you try to build a pro stock car instead of building another super A car?
as long as there are hemi shootouts, I will do that. if it ends, then I will pursue other avenues.
I shook WJ's hand at the scales, I have never spoken to him before. He said "looks like those guys need to do their homework". I thought that was one of the biggest compliments I have ever had.
cw
Posted By: SSAAHemiFan
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/07/08 06:47 PM
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I shook WJ's hand at the scales, I have never spoken to him before. He said "looks like those guys need to do their homework". I thought that was one of the biggest compliments I have ever had.cw
That's a heck of a compliment by WJ. I would be proud and you certainly deserved it !
I was looking at the pic's of Woo's car.. I thought the wheel humps in the inner fender were illegal?
Posted By: JAKE68
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/07/08 07:17 PM
Those have been removed
Posted By: dragonfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/07/08 09:32 PM
Does anyone know why he's selling ???
Posted By: ro23car
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/07/08 11:46 PM
Quote:hey ben no doubt you and your dad are the best it was good to see you adam and your dad now wheres my shirt lol
I've got to toot a horn a little bit here.....THere's no doubt that Charlie's bullet picked up Comella....a ton. But that wouldn't have come to fruition if there hadn't been a little suspension tweaking Thursday night. Dad absolutely nailed that thing, and he might have went a few more rounds without that red 2nd round.
Just wanted to give John Holt a little props for his suspension mastery...
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/08/08 12:35 AM
Dear I am sorry I had to run my dog at indy,I did blow up the motor that I intended to run at the race.Maybe you would have beat it worse.I could tell before you got there that you had picked up and it showed.My engine program has been slow as Joe had lost one of his two employees and we haven't dynoed in 2 years.that still no excuse.He was coming to indy but when he saw how bad you was kicking my butt he decided to finally get in gear.Hope to be ready by the Dutch.Whats it to you or anyone else if I like to bracket race.Its easy to talk shi# about heads up racing when you got everyone covered.I have more of a chance of winning charlotte.than i do a heads up against you right now.But I'll be back I ain't scared.Heck I may even bring my dog to Norwalk.Just to support Heads up racing.By the way How can Ben Holt make any comments about where or when I race?Who the heck does he think he is?One other thing Don Schumakers public relation guy called and wanted me to let Ron Capps drive my car against Micheal Waltrips Cup car in a match race tuesday evening in Charlotte.I guess I'll tell them no so I can support your race............
I am sorry I had to run my dog at indy,I did blow up the motor that I intended to run at the race.Maybe you would have beat it worse.I could tell before you got there that you had picked up and it showed.My engine program has been slow as Joe had lost one of his two employees and we haven't dynoed in 2 years.that still no excuse.He was coming to indy but when he saw how bad you was kicking my butt he decided to finally get in gear.Hope to be ready by the Dutch.Whats it to you or anyone else if I like to bracket race.Its easy to talk shi# about heads up racing when you got everyone covered.I have more of a chance of winning charlotte.than i do a heads up against you right now.But I'll be back I ain't scared.Heck I may even bring my dog to Norwalk.Just to support Heads up racing.By the way How can Ben Holt make any comments about where or when I race?Who the heck does he think he is?One other thing Don Schumakers public relation guy called and wanted me to let Ron Capps drive my car against Micheal Waltrips Cup car in a match race tuesday evening in Charlotte.I guess I'll tell them no so I can support your race............
Posted By: jake4cars
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/08/08 12:50 AM
You don't have anything to apologize for Bucky, all things considered you had a fine outing at the challenge. I really wish you would come to Norwalk,it might be a great experience for you, have Travis bring his 65 along, Charlie B.puts on a cool NSS show. Does Joe need any help?
Joey
Joey
Posted By: ro23car
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/08/08 12:50 AM
wow chukies admirer isnt too happy
Posted By: Chris2581
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/08/08 01:00 AM
Maybe,but he ain't talking smack,just telling the real deal.
Posted By: ro23car
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/08/08 01:02 AM
if your refering to what i said i never implied he was talking smack
Posted By: Chris2581
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/08/08 01:04 AM
I wasn't refering to your post specifically.
Posted By: ro23car
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/08/08 01:05 AM
ok np
Posted By: DodgeCharger
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/08/08 01:09 AM
Quote:Quote:
cw why don't you try to build a pro stock car instead of building another super A car?
as long as there are hemi shootouts, I will do that. if it ends, then I will pursue other avenues.
I shook WJ's hand at the scales, I have never spoken to him before. He said "looks like those guys need to do their homework". I thought that was one of the biggest compliments I have ever had.
cw
Enjoy your ride at the top. Nothing lasts forever.
AH cars are still hobby cars.Most of the racers in your class are running for their own enjoyment.
I'm sure many of the racers you are running against would like to put more time into their race program to be more competitive but they have other obligations. Like jobs and families.
Racing is not their top priority.
If you are getting tired of being on top I suggest like someone suggested earlier you try running Pro Stock.
I'm sure it would be a humbling experience.
Posted By: HEMI472
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/08/08 01:28 AM
?One other thing Don Schumakers public relation guy called and wanted me to let Ron Capps drive my car against Micheal Waltrips Cup car in a match race tuesday evening
buckey why would you let ron capps drive your car??????? do you think he would let you drive his?? i dont think so.and if he wants a hemi car he has enough money to buy his own.
buckey why would you let ron capps drive your car??????? do you think he would let you drive his?? i dont think so.and if he wants a hemi car he has enough money to buy his own.
Posted By: Ben Holt
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/08/08 02:41 AM
Bucky, you've totally took my intentions the wrong way. This is why every time I start to type anything on the internet I think twice about it. The only thing I wanted to get across is that I think you will have a better time at Norwalk. That's it. You will get treated better, have a better chance to make more money, and have more fun. But this is just my honest opinion. I am not knocking you in any form. The car is a beaut. You have always been fast, and a great ambassador for the class/sport. If this was a discussion about Indy vs. Norwalk, then I would have to say you gotta go to Indy, but if you're choices are what they are now.....
Like I said I don't knock you if you go to Charlotte, looks like a gorgeous place, and you are killer in bracket mode, but I think you and Travis and Jeannie would have more fun up at Norwalk, that's all. Sorry if I ruffled your feathers.
Like I said I don't knock you if you go to Charlotte, looks like a gorgeous place, and you are killer in bracket mode, but I think you and Travis and Jeannie would have more fun up at Norwalk, that's all. Sorry if I ruffled your feathers.
Posted By: Ben Holt
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/08/08 02:42 AM
It was great to see you too, Bill. Having Andy there was a total blast from the past, I think he has the bug to come back now! I tell you what, when we actually get some new shirts done, you'll be first in line!!
Posted By: eddie_ccevents
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/08/08 02:52 AM
Ben I new where you where coming from. Thank you for supporting and promoting are event I believe we should have 10 cars there so it should be a good show and a lot of fun and full of action.
Posted By: ro23car
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/08/08 12:31 PM
Quote:ok ben ill hold ya to it plus ill be at norwalk with jerky for you andy and make sure your dad gets some ok lol
It was great to see you too, Bill. Having Andy there was a total blast from the past, I think he has the bug to come back now! I tell you what, when we actually get some new shirts done, you'll be first in line!!
Posted By: J_BODY
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/08/08 01:43 PM
In the whole 5 seconds they devoted to the SS/AH cars on the Lucas oil sportsmen show that slow film speed of the Warfish car launching was pretty sweet. Look up "HOOK" on wikepedia and that vid should be there
Posted By: warfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/09/08 12:38 AM
Enjoy your ride at the top. Nothing lasts forever.
AH cars are still hobby cars.Most of the racers in your class are running for their own enjoyment.
I'm sure many of the racers you are running against would like to put more time into their race program to be more competitive but they have other obligations. Like jobs and families.
Racing is not their top priority.
If you are getting tired of being on top I suggest like someone suggested earlier you try running Pro Stock.
I'm sure it would be a humbling experience.
I think when these guys spend 100's of thousands on their sport, it is slightly more than a hobby. Ogburn has spent a million on it at least. It is my job, and I enjoy it very much. I think allen johnson used to run SS, so its not like it cant be done. I wonder if the capps vs waltrip race will make it on TV? It should give the waltrip fans something to be happy about for a change.
cw
Posted By: DodgeCharger
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/09/08 01:42 AM
Quote:
Enjoy your ride at the top. Nothing lasts forever.
AH cars are still hobby cars.Most of the racers in your class are running for their own enjoyment.
I'm sure many of the racers you are running against would like to put more time into their race program to be more competitive but they have other obligations. Like jobs and families.
Racing is not their top priority.
If you are getting tired of being on top I suggest like someone suggested earlier you try running Pro Stock.
I'm sure it would be a humbling experience.
I think when these guys spend 100's of thousands on their sport, it is slightly more than a hobby. Ogburn has spent a million on it at least. It is my job, and I enjoy it very much. I think allen johnson used to run SS, so its not like it cant be done. I wonder if the capps vs waltrip race will make it on TV? It should give the waltrip fans something to be happy about for a change.
cw
I think it is more of an addiction. But my point is that since your competition isn't racing to put food on the table winning isn't their top priority in life.They are content with just running the class and hoping you have a bad day.
Do you build motors now? I was at a local cruise night and ended up talking to a fellow who is building a new AH car for next season.
I thought he said he was using your engines or your engine builder or chassis guy? Something like that.
He usually runs Chevy's with Grumpy Jenkins power.
It sounds like he might give you some competition next year.
Posted By: scottb
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/09/08 01:43 AM
CW keep up the good work it shows all your hard work has paid off best of luck
Posted By: warfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/09/08 01:59 AM
that was probably larry perkins. He is having jennings build him a car right now. It is almost done, then he will start on mine. not sure who is doing his engines. he called me last winter, I think he is having tony depillo build him one. I am not worried. I am glad to see some new guys coming into the class though. Yes I build engines, check the website to see who I do work for. I have to add a couple to the list, but you will get the picture.
Larry is a good racer, if he can get a motor that runs, he could be a threat.
cw
Larry is a good racer, if he can get a motor that runs, he could be a threat.
cw
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/09/08 02:09 AM
Posted By: DodgeCharger
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/09/08 02:15 AM
Quote:
that was probably larry perkins. He is having jennings build him a car right now. It is almost done, then he will start on mine. not sure who is doing his engines. he called me last winter, I think he is having tony depillo build him one. I am not worried. I am glad to see some new guys coming into the class though. Yes I build engines, check the website to see who I do work for. I have to add a couple to the list, but you will get the picture.
Larry is a good racer, if he can get a motor that runs, he could be a threat.
cw
I think that is his name. If I remember correctly he is going to run a stick shift car.
I don't know him personally but we have a mutual friend.
He used to run a Pro Stock truck a few years back with Jenkins power.
I don't recall who is building his motor if it is not you. I do know that it is not Barton.
Barton is local but he did not mention him.
Posted By: SealockRacing
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/09/08 06:09 AM
does anybody have any links to any SS/AH builds? im just looking for some neat things on these cars, considering im working on my 67 bracket car.
just curious
thanks
John Sealock
just curious
thanks
John Sealock
Posted By: jyrki
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/09/08 11:10 AM
Here is a video of a local SS/AH http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uh7wUZKjtm4
Posted By: JERICOGTX
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/09/08 01:32 PM
How fast did Charlie's customers go at INDY? Gotta give Charlie and his Dad alot of credit for doing what it takes to make both the stick car and auto car to run down the track.
Jeff
Jeff
Posted By: warfish
Re: 2008 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 09/09/08 06:48 PM
rains went a 73 in elims, comella went 82, warford went an 80 I think.
on sunday for the bracket race rains went 63, warford went 67, comella went an 80, and woo went 90 I think. He was having stumble issues.
cw
on sunday for the bracket race rains went 63, warford went 67, comella went an 80, and woo went 90 I think. He was having stumble issues.
cw
Posted By: moderncylinder
norwalk cc race - 09/09/08 10:45 PM
what cars are 100% going to norwalk for the ss/ah hemi deal? im 99%,, putting a motor in my car tonight to get ready....
ive heard..
henson
rains
charlie jr
charlie sr
woo
pancake
me
jeff
ive heard..
henson
rains
charlie jr
charlie sr
woo
pancake
me
jeff
Posted By: MFR440
Re: norwalk cc race - 09/09/08 11:14 PM
Darrell Marvel said he is planning to come.
Posted By: Silver Bullet
Re: norwalk cc race - 09/10/08 12:13 AM
I'm coming with both my cars.
Bales
Bales
Posted By: warfish
Re: norwalk cc race - 09/10/08 12:34 AM
I see bucky pulled out of NC. Looks like he may be coming to play. Warford was tossing it around also.
Daniels pulled out also. looks like it could be a good turnout. That would be the first big turnout for a non nhra event, and to me shows that this deal could continue on its own.
cw
Daniels pulled out also. looks like it could be a good turnout. That would be the first big turnout for a non nhra event, and to me shows that this deal could continue on its own.
cw
Posted By: Greg
Re: norwalk cc race - 09/10/08 02:32 AM
Charlie,
What is the run schedule for your guys? Will your eliminations be on Saturday and Sunday or just Saturday. My 10 year old has a baseball doubleheader on Saturday and would like to take him depending upon the schedule.
Thanks
What is the run schedule for your guys? Will your eliminations be on Saturday and Sunday or just Saturday. My 10 year old has a baseball doubleheader on Saturday and would like to take him depending upon the schedule.
Thanks
Posted By: Ben Holt
Re: norwalk cc race - 09/10/08 04:03 AM
One qualifier Friday night.
Two Qualifiers Saturday (I think two...) and elims starting 2ish on Saturday.
Two Qualifiers Saturday (I think two...) and elims starting 2ish on Saturday.
Posted By: MikeCompTA 57
Re: norwalk cc race - 09/10/08 12:14 PM
Quote:
I'm coming with both my cars.
Bales
Don.....Welcome to the SS/AH thread!
Posted By: B G Racing
Re: norwalk cc race - 09/10/08 01:24 PM
Quote:Donny,it will be good to see you.The Silver Bullit is amazing
I'm coming with both my cars.
Bales
Posted By: moderncylinder
Re: norwalk cc race - 09/10/08 01:41 PM
so then that makes...
henson
rains
charlie jr
charlie sr
woo
pancake
me
don bales
marvel
daniels ???
bucky ???
warford ????
i talked to little joe last night,, he said if they cancel their points race in shreveport he is comming probably with two cars..
lil joe ???
helms or sherman ???
so thats 14 possible, 9 definite
henson
rains
charlie jr
charlie sr
woo
pancake
me
don bales
marvel
daniels ???
bucky
???warford ????
i talked to little joe last night,, he said if they cancel their points race in shreveport he is comming probably with two cars..
lil joe ???
helms or sherman ???
so thats 14 possible, 9 definite
Posted By: Greg
Re: norwalk cc race - 09/10/08 01:57 PM
Will the Jegs Sport Nationals be having the hemi class again and if so who will be planning to attend?
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: norwalk cc race - 09/10/08 02:06 PM
Now why would I come when says I don't have nothin but a Dog.I got Micheal Waltrip to make happy.....
says I don't have nothin but a Dog.I got Micheal Waltrip to make happy.....
Posted By: jake4cars
Re: norwalk cc race - 09/10/08 03:31 PM
Every dog needs to have a place to run....just kidding!! Who cars what CW thinks, I know everyone else wants you to come...and don't forget the 65 as well.
Joey
Joey
Posted By: CorporateGirl
Re: norwalk cc race - 09/11/08 01:34 AM
The NHRA Jeg's SportsNationals at National Trail will have a Mopar HEMI Challenge event.
Who's all going...?
Who's all going...?
Posted By: 68Fastback
Re: SS/AH norwalk cc race - 09/11/08 04:29 AM
Michael Waltrip probably just wants a good look at a Hemi for Toyota when they start their Pro Stock teams. From the sounds of Norwalk it will be a really good race for all the classes.
Quote:
Now why would I come when
Posted By: moderncylinder
Re: norwalk cc race - 09/11/08 01:54 PM
i just talked to little joe,, he says they are comming to norwalk with three cars, allen, helms and joe.
c'mon bucky,, charlie could always break a trans, spin tires,, something,, you never know. rains almost cut a light on him at indy and put him out but charlie drove right by him,,, if john only had a lil more power
jeff
c'mon bucky,, charlie could always break a trans, spin tires,, something,, you never know. rains almost cut a light on him at indy and put him out but charlie drove right by him,,, if john only had a lil more power
jeff
Posted By: Troy
Re: norwalk cc race - 09/11/08 02:43 PM
Quote:
if john only had a lil more power
jeff
Here we go again!!
Posted By: nitrojoe
Re: norwalk cc race - 09/11/08 07:33 PM
Guys I wish everyone good luck at Norwalk as I’ll be a no show trying to rest up for SportsNationals to help the family out there. I tore the cartilage in my ribs about a month in a half ago and its still really hurting. Hard to get around at times and that’s why I wasn’t around too much at Indy.
Good luck to all and have a umbrella handy.
Good luck to all and have a umbrella handy.
Posted By: JulieJordan
Re: norwalk cc race - 09/11/08 09:13 PM
Those of us far, far away from Norwalk would love to hear updates from the track!
Posted By: Ben Holt
Re: norwalk cc race - 09/11/08 09:26 PM
Get well soon, Joe, we'll miss you in Norwalk!
BTW there are ZERO hemi cars in SS after three rounds of qualifying. I wonder where they all are????
No excuses now!!!!
BTW there are ZERO hemi cars in SS after three rounds of qualifying. I wonder where they all are????
No excuses now!!!!
Posted By: estcsthemi18
Re: norwalk cc race - 09/11/08 10:35 PM
You are incorrect Mr. Holt. Bob Reed is there. Bucky may come to Norwalk if they let him "dial in"
Posted By: Ben Holt
Re: norwalk cc race - 09/11/08 10:45 PM
OMG!!! How can I miss the Bullet!! Thanks for pointing that out.
Whatever.....the "dial-in" crap is getting old. I don't care either way, they have some really good, competitive bracket classes at these events, also, so if that's what he wants to do, then he can go for it. But I just don't want to hear about how much of a "dog" so and so is. If you can bring it, bring it, if you can't quit whining. If you have a Mopar (regardless of what type), and your choices are a NHRA national event, or a full-flegded Mopar-only event that treats everybody pretty damn good, where would you go?
Whatever, off my soapbox I go, I wish everyone safe travels and a fun (and dry) weekend.
Whatever.....the "dial-in" crap is getting old. I don't care either way, they have some really good, competitive bracket classes at these events, also, so if that's what he wants to do, then he can go for it. But I just don't want to hear about how much of a "dog" so and so is. If you can bring it, bring it, if you can't quit whining. If you have a Mopar (regardless of what type), and your choices are a NHRA national event, or a full-flegded Mopar-only event that treats everybody pretty damn good, where would you go?
Whatever, off my soapbox I go, I wish everyone safe travels and a fun (and dry) weekend.
Posted By: estcsthemi18
Re: norwalk cc race - 09/11/08 11:03 PM
And the band plays on.
Posted By: mr2performance
Re: norwalk cc race - 09/11/08 11:09 PM
Are you going Ben?
Posted By: Ben Holt
Re: norwalk cc race - 09/12/08 02:12 AM
I may get bashed a little bit for this one...but no I am not. I have some family stuff I have to take care of this weekend. But Pancake is definitely going, and my dad will be there with him. I was looking forward to seeing you guys again, but there are more races down the road. take er easy, Mike, and have a few silver bullets for me!!
Posted By: dragonfish
Re: norwalk cc race - 09/12/08 06:40 PM
I heard Pancake is bringing the Cuda to Ohio
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: norwalk cc race - 09/12/08 08:05 PM
Bob Reed first round "WINNER" at North Carolina!
Posted By: Troublemaker427
Re: norwalk cc race - 09/12/08 08:25 PM
Quote:
I heard Pancake is bringing the Cuda to Ohio
2 car team?
Posted By: dragonfish
Re: norwalk cc race - 09/12/08 10:06 PM
the Cuda is quicker has been a 55
Posted By: Defbob
Re: norwalk cc race - 09/13/08 12:57 AM
didn't he run a low '50 in the dart? He ran a .55 in the cuda?! I never saw him run the cuda, only the dart
Posted By: Ben Holt
Re: norwalk cc race - 09/13/08 01:39 AM
The Dart has been several mid to high 50's. The Cuda went a few 55's at Atco a few years ago for the record. I believe he held the record at 8.554 @ 155.87 until it was reset the beginning of this year. I don't think we've seen the weather/track they had there since then.
I can tell you this much, that Dart is one bad hombre. It takes everything we can throw at it, and says thank you.
I can tell you this much, that Dart is one bad hombre. It takes everything we can throw at it, and says thank you.
Posted By: Ben Holt
Re: norwalk cc race - 09/13/08 01:41 AM
The cuda was all together with his other engine, while the one we had at Indy is at Barton's. It was easier for him just to take that car than to rip it apart and put the Dart together. The Dart should be at Columbus next week.
Posted By: nitrojoe
Re: norwalk cc race - 09/13/08 03:14 PM
Saturday Morning around 11am, (yes i just got out of bed, life of retirement!)
It's raining off and on here at my house (Loudonville, Ohio), which I'm 35 miles south of Norwalk. Hope they get some clear cells in sometime today to run the shootout, but watching the weather channel only if one of them have a hemi powered boat, not much hope right now.
It's raining off and on here at my house (Loudonville, Ohio), which I'm 35 miles south of Norwalk. Hope they get some clear cells in sometime today to run the shootout, but watching the weather channel only if one of them have a hemi powered boat, not much hope right now.
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: norwalk cc race - 09/13/08 03:32 PM
I withdrew from Charlotte,had all intentions of leaving thursday around lunch time for Norwalk,went to fill up motorhome and it wouldn't move,had it towed to int.dealer.Called a friend to borrow his gmc made a hitch put in brake control filled his truck to leave fri. morning .Went up to shop to check weather,said it wasn't worth setting up there in a truck sorry
Posted By: Ben Holt
Re: norwalk cc race - 09/13/08 08:14 PM
Sorry about your luck, Bucky. You trying to make it to Columbus, next weekend?
Posted By: Dyno1
Norwalk Results? - 09/14/08 11:05 PM
Any news on the hemi shootout? I picked up the Barracuda today, headers are finished. 50 and raining in Mpls. Dyno
Posted By: island hemi
Re: Norwalk Results? - 09/15/08 12:27 AM
Charlie Wescott Senior over Daryll Marvel in the final.
Posted By: HEMIDARTS
Re: Norwalk Results? - 09/15/08 03:49 AM
I just got home from Norwalk.
Even though it rained, it was a great weekend.
Lil Joe Teuton won the HEMI class bracket race!!!
He was really up on the wheel today and was great!!
Great job Lil Joe!!!
Even though it rained, it was a great weekend.
Lil Joe Teuton won the HEMI class bracket race!!!
He was really up on the wheel today and was
great!! Great job Lil Joe!!!
Posted By: Jared_Jordan
Re: Norwalk Results? - 09/15/08 04:18 AM
Who ran what? I'm assuming CW Jr. was low ET? Sr. had top speed?
Posted By: scottb
Re: Norwalk Results? - 09/15/08 11:40 AM
All i can say is thanks to those cars that did show up put on a great show Jr &Sr cars had everyone covered I seen both of the cars run in the 60s everyone else was in the 90s and upper 80s
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Norwalk Results? - 09/16/08 02:20 AM
Pretty sure Charlie had a 65 and Mr. Wescott had a 67. Most of the cars were in high 80's to 90's. It was nice to see that many class legal AH cars at a all Mopar event..There was a nice field of Hemi race cars in the class race...
Posted By: MikeCompTA 57
SportsNationals - 09/18/08 09:52 PM
Who's entered in the "The Hemi Challenge" at Columbus this weekend?
Posted By: HEMIDARTS
Re: SportsNationals - 09/19/08 01:04 AM
Lil Joe Teuton and his whole team are going to be there. I am going down to see them.
Posted By: Ben Holt
Re: SportsNationals - 09/19/08 02:40 AM
So far all three Teuton cars, Rains, Earthquake Cuda and DePillo. Pancake, Westcotts, Woo, Marvel, Bucky, Bales, Barton, Daniels = I am 99% will be there. Warford. I know I'm missing a few, but this group will definitely be there.
Posted By: 67HEMI
Re: SportsNationals - 09/19/08 03:24 AM
Are the Super Stockers running in Memphis on the 26th or are we going to have to endure 1,000 Super Comp dragsters?
Posted By: VernMotor
Re: norwalk cc race - 09/21/08 12:34 AM
Charlie Westcott Jr. 0.083 8.52 155.58
Charlie
Westcott
****WINNER**** 0.027 8.566 157.04
Charlie
Westcott
****WINNER**** 0.027 8.566 157.04
Posted By: MikeCompTA 57
"Hemi Challenge" Columbus - 09/21/08 04:01 PM
Low ET Charlie Westcott Jr. 8.51 et
Top Speed Charlie Westcott 157 mph
"Hemi Challenge"
14 Cars (15 if you count Pancakes Cuda @ Mopar display)
1 Deep Stage
1 Roll back out of beams
1 Perfect reaction time
2 Bye runs
Holeshots (some questionable)
Tire spin
Wheelstands
Hi Steve!
Top Speed Charlie Westcott 157 mph
"Hemi Challenge"
14 Cars (15 if you count Pancakes Cuda @ Mopar display)
1 Deep Stage
1 Roll back out of beams
1 Perfect reaction time
2 Bye runs
Holeshots (some questionable)
Tire spin
Wheelstands
Hi Steve!
Posted By: HEMIDARTS
Re: "Hemi Challenge" Columbus - 09/22/08 03:26 AM
Quote:
Low ET Charlie Westcott Jr. 8.51 et
Top Speed Charlie Westcott 157 mph
"Hemi Challenge"
14 Cars (15 if you count Pancakes Cuda @ Mopar display)
1 Deep Stage
1 Roll back out of beams
1 Perfect reaction time
2 Bye runs
Holeshots (some questionable)
Tire spin
Wheelstands
Hi Steve!
that pretty much describes it. I just got home and i had a blast.
It was great to hang out with the
Teuton gang,
,and all weekend! I would like to thank the whole crew for
making this weekend so great!
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Columbus Results? - 09/23/08 09:50 PM
The race of all races and I missed it. The hell with Indy, you all think that final was exciting? How about the final at Columbus? Mr. four speed vs the kid ...Sr got him by 2 feet at the end...Way to go Charlie Sr!! do ya think he thanked his engine builder? Congrats to you too Jr, BOTH of you, well deserved. Its a coin toss who was probably more excited Sr or Jr with the win, except Sr has the check this time.
vs the kid ...Sr got him by 2 feet at the end...Way to go Charlie Sr!! do ya think he thanked his engine builder? Congrats to you too Jr, BOTH of you, well deserved. Its a coin toss who was probably more excited Sr or Jr with the win, except Sr has the check this time.
Posted By: JAKE68
Re: Columbus Results? - 09/23/08 10:05 PM
Thats 2 weeks in a row for Sr. Good job. I guess you showed them that you can drive. Jake
Posted By: SealockRacing
Re: Columbus Results? - 09/24/08 05:29 AM
whos going to be down at the Grove on the 25th?
ill be down there and would love to check this out.
ill be down there and would love to check this out.
Posted By: moderncylinder
Re: Columbus Results? - 09/24/08 01:13 PM
from the looks of it,,,, if the air is typical maple groove charlie should beable to run low 8.30's or so,, i think his car is only certified to run 8.50. it will be interesting to see if they actually enforce that rule for chassis cert against charlie... though i wouldnt think they will since they dont really enforce any of the other rules that people point out.
jeff
jeff
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: Columbus Results? - 09/24/08 01:31 PM
I hope one day I get fast again and people will try to pick every thing apart on my car ,But then again I did get throwed out for short screws.I guess there are two standards...
Posted By: moderncylinder
Re: Columbus Results? - 09/24/08 02:33 PM
well bucky im content right now trying to pick up .02 or so every run,, making small changes and quantifing the result. i think i made progress at columbus though the car started to slow down but i have 4 pushrod tubes leaking to the point that the port wont hold a vacuum. i picked up in incrementals most every run and learned a few things about tuning the chassis to get down the track.
see you at the dutch bucky,, i think...
jeff
see you at the dutch bucky,, i think...
jeff
Posted By: VernMotor
Re: Columbus Results? - 09/24/08 02:50 PM
Quote:
I got ask what screws ???
And thank you for coming to norwalk..I hope you had a good time up there..I never did get to talk to you..But I was hanging over the fence down At the et shack giving you a thumb up
Posted By: warfish
Re: Columbus Results? - 09/24/08 03:57 PM
why is it that it is always the slowest race car at the track, is an athority on the rules? What rules are you referring to? Since I have been torn down 4 times this year alone, (more than anyone else has in the last 10 years), and I recieved a letter telling me that I needed to move my batteries, and a letter stating that the lifter angle deal was a non issue, what else do you have to complain about. I dont really know what quantify means, but if it is synonomous with being 4 tenths behind, than I understand.
cw
cw
Posted By: S/SSJOHN
Re: Columbus Results? - 09/24/08 04:41 PM
I believe he was talking about the screws in the throttle plates, through the throttle shafts! I guess his were to short, as in modified!!!!!!! John Lang
Posted By: ro23car
Re: Columbus Results? - 09/24/08 04:48 PM
would that be the same as your batteries have to move where to they need thave to move to ohio or alabama lol you so are the typo police
Posted By: moderncylinder
Re: Columbus Results? - 09/24/08 04:54 PM
glad to see the lifter deal is legal,, it wasnt a big deal to me,, one other guy had a problem with it since nhra told him to stop doing it a few years back. i didnt mean anything to take away from your accomplishments charlie,, your car is fast, as it would be with whatever lifter angle you had in it because of your dedication to working on it. ill probably modify my inner fenders so i can fit a taller tire since i have a problem red lighting when i leave higher than 3200rpm,, though its not legal to do,, but i think its legal if you just slightly do it,,
youve been doing this for 8 years charlie,, and this year youve gained the most of any from year to year,, congrats.. ive come to the conclusion that in my first year im not going to turn a few screws or get a magic cam that will pick me up two tents or so,, its a combination and many little things that go into it,, its not going to happen overnight,, so im content just trying to go faster every run...
jeff
youve been doing this for 8 years charlie,, and this year youve gained the most of any from year to year,, congrats.. ive come to the conclusion that in my first year im not going to turn a few screws or get a magic cam that will pick me up two tents or so,, its a combination and many little things that go into it,, its not going to happen overnight,, so im content just trying to go faster every run...
jeff
Posted By: ro23car
Re: Columbus Results? - 09/24/08 05:09 PM
oh btw must be equally as proud of your secretrarial skills and and abilities as much as your skills andabilities lol im glad im just and old truck driver
must be equally as proud of your secretrarial skills and and abilities as much as your skills andabilities lol im glad im just and old truck driver
Posted By: DodgeCharger
Re: Columbus Results? - 09/24/08 05:40 PM
Quote:
why is it that it is always the slowest race car at the track, is an athority on the rules? What rules are you referring to? Since I have been torn down 4 times this year alone, (more than anyone else has in the last 10 years), and I recieved a letter telling me that my batteries needed to move, and a letter stating that the lifter angle deal was a non issue, what else do you have to complain about. I dont really know what quantify means, but if it is synonomous with being 4 tenths behind, than I understand.
cw
Usually because the slowest car in the class is trying to stay well within the boundries of the rules and the fastest car in the class is usually playing with a gray area or testing the boundries of the rules.
Posted By: Troy
Re: Columbus Results? - 09/24/08 06:28 PM
Quote:
Usually because the slowest car in the class is trying to stay well within the boundries of the rules and the fastest car in the class is usually playing with a gray area or testing the boundries of the rules.
Very well put.......
Posted By: brianvnt90
Re: Columbus Results? - 09/24/08 08:37 PM
For those who weren't able to be there at Columbus this weekend, it really was a great final. Heres the final, I have all the rounds there also
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeA7DVl7TiQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeA7DVl7TiQ
Posted By: lorenr
Re: Columbus Results? - 09/24/08 11:02 PM
Thank you so much Brian for posting the videos on U Tube.For some of us who rarely get to see these cars race it is a big treat.
Amazing machines. In my circle of friends no one would believe that an old 68 Plymouth could accelerate to 157 MPH in a quarter mile.
Amazing machines. In my circle of friends no one would believe that an old 68 Plymouth could accelerate to 157 MPH in a quarter mile.
Posted By: 68Fastback
Re: Columbus Results? - 09/24/08 11:54 PM
Hey Brian thanks for posting the videos. Gotta say its a shame these cars are not on TV more, they are a show.
Quote:
For those who weren't able to be there at Columbus this weekend, it really was a great final. Heres the final, I have all the rounds there also
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeA7DVl7TiQ
Posted By: J_BODY
Re: Columbus Results? - 09/25/08 12:22 AM
Not sure how it got off track so much....but how fast et/mph is a SS/AH car certified to? Obviously alot of the other rules seem not to apply to them (refering to watching a SS/AH driver at MaTS simply slipping on his sweat pants over his shorts before a run...no thick jacket/pants/gloves/ etc. required of a usual 9.99 or faster car).
Posted By: Sherminator
Re: chassic cert. - 09/25/08 02:10 AM
most are 8.50 some are 7.50 like pancakes car i think buckys car is also good for 7.50
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Columbus Results? - 09/25/08 02:56 AM
Brian, Thank You for the Video. I have been waiting for this match for a while. My guess, it's going to be a frequent pairing. It sure is great to see Sr doing that...it never gets old. Next year are we going to see Jr in a 4 speed car?? He has posted here he is building another. Racing like that IS how they did it in the 60's...All of you here keep up the good work. I dont have a drag car, but have always enjoyed the sport.
Posted By: warfish
Re: Columbus Results? - 09/25/08 03:11 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBqK-hG04Tk&feature=related
so whos the guy thats so happy I redlighted? I wonder if he was happy after I got back in? Nice thing about the vid is you can see "quake" deep staged, he told me afterwords he knew he should have been dq'd. I saw kent ritter there helping him, that can do nothing but improve his program.
cool vids brian, I didnt know you were the one that put them on there.
cw
so whos the guy thats so happy I redlighted? I wonder if he was happy after I got back in? Nice thing about the vid is you can see "quake" deep staged, he told me afterwords he knew he should have been dq'd. I saw kent ritter there helping him, that can do nothing but improve his program.
cool vids brian, I didnt know you were the one that put them on there.
cw
Posted By: warfish
Re: Columbus Results? - 09/25/08 03:15 AM
Quote:
would that be the same as your batteries have to move where to they need thave to move to ohio or alabama lol you so are the typo police
just cause you cant read, doesnt make it a typo
Posted By: Stewart
Re: Columbus Results? - 09/25/08 04:35 AM
J body
Its not just "them" that have diff rules. Check out an NHRA rulebook. A lot of SS rules are different than bracket cars and SG SC. No -5 pants required in SS. Also no gloves, collar or fireproof shoes. But some other rules apply. Full cage in a SS/IA with an index of 11.00
Its not just "them" that have diff rules. Check out an NHRA rulebook. A lot of SS rules are different than bracket cars and SG SC. No -5 pants required in SS. Also no gloves, collar or fireproof shoes. But some other rules apply. Full cage in a SS/IA with an index of 11.00
Posted By: ro23car
Re: Columbus Results? - 09/25/08 10:08 PM
Quote:guess you should practice what you preach i was refering to your comment about qualifing did that help you lolQuote:
would that be the same as your batteries have to move where to they need thave to move to ohio or alabama lol you so are the typo police
just cause you cant read, doesnt make it a typo
Posted By: warfish
Re: Columbus Results? - 09/26/08 01:37 AM
Quote:Quote:guess you should practice what you preach i was refering to your comment about qualifing did that help you lolQuote:
would that be the same as your batteries have to move where to they need thave to move to ohio or alabama lol you so are the typo police
just cause you cant read, doesnt make it a typo
actually, no it didnt.
Posted By: ro23car
Re: Columbus Results? - 09/26/08 01:46 AM
Quote:no biggie i know that im not workin with much when it comes to you lol have a great nite chuckQuote:Quote:guess you should practice what you preach i was refering to your comment about qualifing did that help you lolQuote:
would that be the same as your batteries have to move where to they need thave to move to ohio or alabama lol you so are the typo police
just cause you cant read, doesnt make it a typo
actually, no it didnt.
Posted By: MFR440
Re: Columbus Results? - 09/26/08 04:36 AM
A little dated now, but here's video of the first round of time shots from Norwalk...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMp-9qPcwwY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMp-9qPcwwY
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Columbus Results? - 09/27/08 12:04 PM
"so whos the guy thats so happy I redlighted? I wonder if he was happy after I got back in?...."
Charlie,
I think he is a Sr. fan. , LOL. He seemed to be even more excited when you and your Dad made it to the finals and he ( ) won. Check out Brian's Video posted a few post earlier. Charlie, Great, Great show and performance this year. Like I have seen posted here before, looks like each time you and your Dad show up at a track your "prepared". Its only a guess, but I believe your Dad had been that way for the past 60 years at everything he's done. Second guess, the apple doesen't fall to far from the tree. Keep it up, its exciting
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: Columbus Results? - 09/30/08 02:46 PM
Are you coming to Atco ?It would be nice to see how fast you are at sea level.... I'm sure some don't want to know
Posted By: warfish
Re: Columbus Results? - 10/01/08 01:50 AM
no, the next race for us will be the dutch. We plan to test this weekend, but thats not certain yet. I am sure it will be fast there, and all the "B" team cars will be going fast. I am done chasing weather for records at $1.00+ a mile to travel.
later
cw
later
cw
Posted By: dragonfish
Re: Columbus Results? - 10/03/08 12:25 PM
Who's going to the DUTCH CLASSIC ???
Posted By: Anonymous
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Posted By: warfish
Re: Columbus Results? - 10/03/08 01:27 PM
the number I am interested in is - $1000.00 in my bank acct. Anyone can go fast in good air, unless the fastest cars are there, they are kidding themselves.
Maybe the dutch will bring some good weather for a change, its about time for it.
cw
Maybe the dutch will bring some good weather for a change, its about time for it.
cw
Posted By: Anonymous
Post deleted by Defbob - 10/03/08 01:49 PM
Posted By: warfish
Re: Columbus Results? - 10/03/08 03:24 PM
I really dont get into that stuff, I cant stand it when others do it, "coulda went this if...."
I went a 51 in 2500# (my gauge obviously) at columbus. I was 15 faster than the 3rd guy, thats all I care about.
cw
I went a 51 in 2500# (my gauge obviously) at columbus. I was 15 faster than the 3rd guy, thats all I care about.
cw
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Post deleted by Defbob - 10/03/08 04:33 PM
Posted By: moderncylinder
Re: Columbus Results? - 10/03/08 06:53 PM
barton ran an 8.52 at atco, looking at pancake and bucky,, looks like its about .08 quicker than columbus,, but its only one run,, could be dialin it in still....
Posted By: JC Childress
Re: Columbus Results? - 10/03/08 07:38 PM
If the track is good enough, I expect Charlie could possibly dip into the high thirties. Thats my guesstimate.
Bucky might could when he gets his new car sorted out.
None of this matters though...its all speculation.
The Warfish is making some serious steam....thats what I do know for a fact. I like Charlie, and I like Bucky. I know Bucky and I've only spoken to Charlie a time or two and he was super nice. I dont kiss butt, I just tell it like it is. The Warfish is the one to catch right now. Joe Clark is making some serious steam too though.
Bucky might could when he gets his new car sorted out.
None of this matters though...its all speculation.
The Warfish is making some serious steam....thats what I do know for a fact. I like Charlie, and I like Bucky. I know Bucky and I've only spoken to Charlie a time or two and he was super nice. I dont kiss butt, I just tell it like it is. The Warfish is the one to catch right now. Joe Clark is making some serious steam too though.
Posted By: GOLDUST
Re: Columbus Results? - 10/04/08 03:11 AM
Quote:That was in Jim Daniels car(the Dart he used to drive),not in the Cuda.
barton ran an 8.52 at atco, looking at pancake and bucky,, looks like its about .08 quicker than columbus,, but its only one run,, could be dialin it in still....
Posted By: GOLDUST
Re: Columbus Results? - 10/04/08 03:17 AM
Quote:Good point,we even went fast today(for us).78,and it was a bad run,car(port-a-tree) was all over the place.Pancake ,.59 Bucky,.66 Bob Wolkwitz,.69 Bales,.80
the number I am interested in is - $1000.00 in my bank acct. Anyone can go fast in good air, unless the fastest cars are there, they are kidding themselves.
Maybe the dutch will bring some good weather for a change, its about time for it.
cw
Posted By: jake4cars
Re: Columbus Results? - 10/04/08 11:34 PM
It was neat to see Charlie and his Dad at Martin today, his first run out of the box was 8.54 @ 155 mph, pretty impressive.
Joey
Joey
Posted By: warfish
Re: Columbus Results? - 10/05/08 03:18 AM
we ended up making a couple decent runs. I was running rains #2 engine, dad had his usual stuff. I found a broken spring after this run with my car, changed all the intakes, then spun the tires after we waited for 2 hrs to run. They had a pretty big nostalgia funny car show tonight. We will probably go back and rent the track in a week.
cw
dad went a 51 @ 158.50, I went 50 @ 155.
cw
dad went a 51 @ 158.50, I went 50 @ 155.
Posted By: Anonymous
Post deleted by Defbob - 10/05/08 03:46 AM
Posted By: HEMI472
Re: Columbus Results? - 10/05/08 04:43 AM
yes
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Columbus Results? - 10/05/08 12:34 PM
Quote:
I don't follow this thread much is the higher MPH the stick car ?
Yes, and as of Columbus, the quicker of the two also
Posted By: B3422W5
Re: Columbus Results? - 10/06/08 07:08 PM
Was pitted by you guys at 131 Saturday(blue Duster right behind you)
Sweet Mph's and the 8.50 was way cool.
Wish the track would hve held the side by side deal right before i left, all i saw was sparks when you guys lifted
Sweet Mph's and the 8.50 was way cool.
Wish the track would hve held the side by side deal right before i left, all i saw was sparks when you guys lifted
Posted By: Stewart
Re: Columbus Results? - 10/06/08 11:23 PM
Charlie
Any chance you could type out or redo one or both of the time slips you posted. Don't know if its my screen or what but I can't read them. I'm guessing the 1.22 1.23 60' I saw posted elsewhere were back tire trips. If not 8.3 at 160 is close for you and your dad.
Great job and keep up the good {hard} work.
Any chance you could type out or redo one or both of the time slips you posted. Don't know if its my screen or what but I can't read them. I'm guessing the 1.22 1.23 60' I saw posted elsewhere were back tire trips. If not 8.3 at 160 is close for you and your dad.
Great job and keep up the good {hard} work.
Posted By: VernMotor
Re: Columbus Results? - 10/06/08 11:38 PM
Dads
Posted By: VernMotor
Re: Columbus Results? - 10/06/08 11:39 PM
charley
Posted By: warfish
Re: Columbus Results? - 10/07/08 12:03 AM
Quote:
Charlie
Any chance you could type out or redo one or both of the time slips you posted. Don't know if its my screen or what but I can't read them. I'm guessing the 1.22 1.23 60' I saw posted elsewhere were back tire trips. If not 8.3 at 160 is close for you and your dad.
Great job and keep up the good {hard} work.
if you open the attachment, they will get big on the screen then you can read them.
try it
cw
Posted By: moderncylinder
Re: Columbus Results? - 10/07/08 02:05 PM
looks like westcott sr ran through the clutch or spun the tires to give him that "bad" 60 ft,, he was quicker than jr in every increment by i think .02,, i got if his dad hooked up,,, an 8.41 or so...
all i hope is that at maple grove neither of them runs quicker than 8.36,,, please,, though im sure neither care if the index gets hit again. my guess if its less than 500ft,, they will though.
jeff
all i hope is that at maple grove neither of them runs quicker than 8.36,,, please,, though im sure neither care if the index gets hit again. my guess if its less than 500ft,, they will though.
jeff
Posted By: Jared_Jordan
Re: Columbus Results? - 10/07/08 03:08 PM
It's amazing how we're talking about 8.3x's when 3-4 years ago an 8.5x was a great run.
I didn't see the run and I admittedly don't know much about launching a 4-speed car, but if CW can find a way to get those two cars to 330 ft without the automatic being a 1/10 in front there won't be anyone who will touch the 4-speed car. That thing is an absolute beast on the backhalf. 128 at the 1/8 and 158 at the 1/4 is real impressive.
I didn't see the run and I admittedly don't know much about launching a 4-speed car, but if CW can find a way to get those two cars to 330 ft without the automatic being a 1/10 in front there won't be anyone who will touch the 4-speed car. That thing is an absolute beast on the backhalf. 128 at the 1/8 and 158 at the 1/4 is real impressive.
Posted By: moderncylinder
Re: Columbus Results? - 10/07/08 03:15 PM
jared,, i dont know if charlie said it here or in an email to me but that wasnt his good motor in the car,, it was john rains' #2 motor,, id expect charlies motor to be .10 quicker all day long,, maybe .12-.13.. though even at that you dont know if they threw all the tricks at it just testing at martin,, chilling, oil, and so on..
i havent been looking at time slips and all the incremental times for very long, id think if the stick car was to 60 ft like the auto, which i dont know if they can yet but im sure if jr went a 1.16, sr could go a 1.18,, then you look at the 4sp gaining on the auto all the way down i actually see that run as a 8.37-8.38,, if it left the line like i know it could.
jeff
i havent been looking at time slips and all the incremental times for very long, id think if the stick car was to 60 ft like the auto, which i dont know if they can yet but im sure if jr went a 1.16, sr could go a 1.18,, then you look at the 4sp gaining on the auto all the way down i actually see that run as a 8.37-8.38,, if it left the line like i know it could.
jeff
Posted By: Jared_Jordan
Re: Columbus Results? - 10/07/08 05:01 PM
It was on here that he posted it was Rains' #2 motor. Historically when CW "turns up the wick" on the auto car it's got anywhere between .05-.10 on the 4-speed car at the 1/4 when CW has his "good motor" in the car.
My above post was only meant to illustrate how much potential that 4-speed car has vs. an automatic car. The automatic was 3.42 @ 330 ft. The 4-speed was 3.52 @ 330 ft. If CW can (and I expect he will) find a way to get the 4-speed to stay with the automatic for the first 330, no one else will be able to run with it. My guess is CW sees the same trend and that's why he's deciding to scrap the "Warfish" and build another 4-speed car. How's my aim Charlie?
My above post was only meant to illustrate how much potential that 4-speed car has vs. an automatic car. The automatic was 3.42 @ 330 ft. The 4-speed was 3.52 @ 330 ft. If CW can (and I expect he will) find a way to get the 4-speed to stay with the automatic for the first 330, no one else will be able to run with it. My guess is CW sees the same trend and that's why he's deciding to scrap the "Warfish" and build another 4-speed car. How's my aim Charlie?
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: Columbus Results? - 10/07/08 05:58 PM
Ive never seen a stick car 60 or 330 with a auto.maybe can.I know the air was good at martin.8.30's ?seems to be stuck in the 50's.
can.I know the air was good at martin.8.30's ?seems to be stuck in the 50's.
Posted By: warfish
Re: Columbus Results? - 10/07/08 07:24 PM
short of posting dyno sheets on here, which I wont, I can tell you that the motor of rains that I had in my car, made the same as mine did. We ran in friday night, and put it in. My dads car made what I consider a 90% run. The 60 is never any good with a stick for a number of reasons that I will keep to myself. I outran my dad by .04 at columbus, and outran him by .01 saturday with a broken spring. I find it somewhat offensive that MCH would infer that a customers motor in my car would be .10 behind mine. That is not how I operate. I put it in there to try to diagnose a problem that John is having now. The same convertor in his car is 600 rpm tighter in low gear. I ran the motor to prove to myself that wasnt it. It wasnt, it acted just like mine. I felt that it was a little lacking at high rpm, so thats when I checked the springs and decided to change them. I was ready to put it in the 40's, but it was getting late, and the duramax diesel truck that I ran in back of didnt exactly lay down some good rubber for me. I spun, shut off, and went home. If anyone looks at the 2nd rd at columbus, you can see that John went 154 to my 155. His car is not makin it happen in 330, and I plan to test it next week to see if I can figure anything out.
cw
cw
Posted By: ss/ah3480
Re: Columbus Results? - 10/07/08 07:40 PM
juss curious charlie, whats the best your dads
ever went in 60?
ever went in 60?
Posted By: JC Childress
Re: Columbus Results? - 10/07/08 07:43 PM
That, to me, is superb customer service.......PERIOD ! Something thats hard to find in America these days.
Posted By: warfish
Re: Columbus Results? - 10/07/08 10:43 PM
Quote:
juss curious charlie, whats the best your dads
ever went in 60?
1.21
The martin 60 clocks are .02 slow.
that track has 61.5 foot 60 foot clocks. We measured them last year after trying to figure out why the 60's were slow. Prior to the 1.16 I had saturday, my best ever there was 1.18.
Posted By: moderncylinder
Re: Columbus Results? - 10/07/08 11:44 PM
charlie you said it was john's #2 motor,, i didnt mean it that way,, i figured it was a little older technology,, and compared to your motor well you drove by john at indy and were .10 or more quicker at columbus.
jeff
jeff
Posted By: genuinerocker
Re: Columbus Results? - 10/08/08 10:59 AM
Quote:
That, to me, is superb customer service.......PERIOD ! Something thats hard to find in America these days.
Not only is that superb customer service, but just proves that not only does CW want his cars to be on top, but his customers as well...
His name is on the line with all his customers and he works hard to give them them very same stuff he has....
His slogan says it all.....
"Why would you call anyone else unless you want to lose?"
The Wescotts outrun every one because they outwork every one.....It is that dedication and effort that has everyone else scratching their [Edited by Moparts - Keep it clean] wondering how they do it...Accusing them of cheating...ect...ect...
If you have your eyes open,You can see how hard they work at the track at each event, Seeing that, I don't need to see how hard they work in the shop....It shows on the track!!!!
Posted By: B3422W5
Re: Columbus Results? - 10/08/08 03:57 PM
Quote:Quote:
juss curious charlie, whats the best your dads
ever went in 60?
1.21
The martin 60 clocks are .02 slow.
that track has 61.5 foot 60 foot clocks. We measured them last year after trying to figure out why the 60's were slow. Prior to the 1.16 I had saturday, my best ever there was 1.18.
I have wondered that for years(60 foot clocks)that said, my car 60 foots the same "02 slow" even at the IHRA northern nats. i always assumed IHRA brought in their own timing equipment, must be they dont.
I went 1.343 there saturday, and best anywhere else previously had been 1.341, so i must have been 60 footing actually 1.32 ish
so many bracket racers have said the same thing you are saying, Charlie, i am surprised they havent addressed it.
Posted By: S/ST 3040
Re: Columbus Results? - 10/08/08 04:08 PM
Hmmmmm..........that explains a few things.
I noticed my 60's were slow at 131 too but, had to add .04
to my delay box to keep on the good side of .000
I noticed my 60's were slow at 131 too but, had to add .04
to my delay box to keep on the good side of .000
Posted By: jim sciortino
Re: Columbus Results? - 10/08/08 06:06 PM
I love this class, its my all-time favorite and when I hit Powerball, I'll get a couple of Cudas built.
I'm wondering, without asking too much, are these top engines in the 925-950hp range???
I'm wondering, without asking too much, are these top engines in the 925-950hp range???
Posted By: Jared_Jordan
Re: Columbus Results? - 10/08/08 10:17 PM
The "top" ones fall somewhere in that range.
A lot depends on the dyno. Some read a little happier than others.
A lot depends on the dyno. Some read a little happier than others.
Posted By: SSHemi364
Re: Columbus Results? - 10/08/08 11:40 PM
So why everybody talking about Westcott?? Who care about that Westcott is the "FASTEST" or "BEST ENIGINE BUILDER".. Talk about someone else like Jeff from Modern Cyl is a cool guy..
Joe D.
Joe D.
Posted By: warfish
Re: Columbus Results? - 10/09/08 12:43 AM
Quote:
So why everybody talking about Westcott?? Who care about that Westcott is the "FASTEST" or "BEST ENIGINE BUILDER".. Talk about someone else like Jeff from Modern Cyl is a cool guy..
Joe D.
lets talk about you guys. How are things in dayton. have you cracked the 800hp mark yet? have any of your customers made a pass in the last 3 years? just curious. we all want to know.
cw
Posted By: GOLDUST
Re: Columbus Results? - 10/09/08 02:48 AM
Umm...Because his is winning!,and the fastest car out there!!!There isn't a lot of press for the 2nd place car,let alone the 28th,or whatever, fastest car!
Posted By: moderncylinder
Re: Columbus Results? - 10/09/08 02:51 AM
charlie joe didnt question your abilities, there was no need to question tony's,, he has been under financial hardship due to trying to make the nsca float,, joe was just trying to stir discussions and thoughts about others in this class.
Posted By: genuinerocker
Re: Columbus Results? - 10/09/08 12:19 PM
Quote:
So why everybody talking about Westcott?? Who care about that Westcott is the "FASTEST" or "BEST ENIGINE BUILDER".. Talk about someone else like Jeff from Modern Cyl is a cool guy..
Joe D.
You ask who cares who is fastest? You also ask who cares who is the best engine builder?
The fact is in Super Stock/AH they go hand in hand....Heads up ..all on the line racing...And while Jeff may (as it seems ) to be a friend of yours, it has been the Wescotts (both of them) that have dominated this class for the last several years... That alone is going to get all the attention, from fans as well as media...
My good buddy Don Bales unveiled the most awesome SS Barracuda at this years U.S. Nationals this year..Dubbed the "Silver Bullet". It was built by Mike Roth (MR2 Motorsports) and is by far the most over the top Super Stocker most have ever seen.It looks like a show car more than a race car... All who have seen it are extremely impressed, and it may get some magazine coverage.. It should be awarded best enginerred, as well as best appearing every where it goes..
Bucky Hess also brought his beautiful freshly painted Cuda to Indy. On the way a golf cart broke loose in the hauler and cruched the front end of the car....
All news worthy stories....
But when all was said and done it was all about who was fast and who won!!!!
And it appears going fast and building the best Hemi are what everyone want to talk about!!!!
Posted By: jim sciortino
Re: Columbus Results? - 10/09/08 02:33 PM
Quote:Thanks for the response.
The "top" ones fall somewhere in that range.
A lot depends on the dyno. Some read a little happier than others.
Now if Mr. Westcott would be so kind as to post his top dyno sheets.
Posted By: JERICOGTX
Re: Columbus Results? - 10/09/08 04:10 PM
Quote:Quote:Thanks for the response.
The "top" ones fall somewhere in that range.
A lot depends on the dyno. Some read a little happier than others.
Now if Mr. Westcott would be so kind as to post his top dyno sheets.
And that would mean nothing. Dyno sheets mean nothing... They really only have value to the person building the motor, and looking for gains in HP. Comparing dyno sheets, is like comparing time slips at different tracks, and events. The only numbers that matter are the ET slips at the event you are racing everyone else. I think Charlie, and his Dad have the chassis figured out way better then everyone else to make the car ET. Installing a customers motor in his own, and running the number proves that, it's not just being able to make the power that is important.
Jeff
Posted By: jim sciortino
Re: Columbus Results? - 10/09/08 05:05 PM
Quote:I know.Quote:Quote:Thanks for the response.
The "top" ones fall somewhere in that range.
A lot depends on the dyno. Some read a little happier than others.
Now if Mr. Westcott would be so kind as to post his top dyno sheets.
And that would mean nothing. Dyno sheets mean nothing... They really only have value to the person building the motor, and looking for gains in HP. Comparing dyno sheets, is like comparing time slips at different tracks, and events. The only numbers that matter are the ET slips at the event you are racing everyone else. I think Charlie, and his Dad have the chassis figured out way better then everyone else to make the car ET. Installing a customers motor in his own, and running the number proves that, it's not just being able to make the power that is important.
Jeff
I was joking.
Posted By: warfish
Re: Columbus Results? - 10/09/08 11:55 PM
Quote:
charlie joe didnt question your abilities, there was no need to question tony's,, he has been under financial hardship due to trying to make the nsca float,, joe was just trying to stir discussions and thoughts about others in this class.
I wasnt questioning anyones abilities. I was asking legitimate questions. I am interested in other peoples progress. they have several cars in their stable. Leiter, Gifford, Russ that bought wilkes car, Bob buntin, I just wondered if these cars will ever come out.
cw
Posted By: MikeCompTA 57
Re: Columbus Results? - 10/10/08 08:10 AM
Quote:
My good buddy Don Bales unveiled the most awesome SS Barracuda at this years U.S. Nationals this year..Dubbed the "Silver Bullet". It was built by Mike Roth (MR2 Motorsports) and is by far the most over the top Super Stocker most have ever seen.It looks like a show car more than a race car... All who have seen it are extremely impressed, and it may get some magazine coverage.. It should be awarded best enginerred, as well as best appearing every where it goes
Posted By: j oliverio
Re: Columbus Results? - 10/10/08 02:16 PM
On dyno sheets I will tell a funny one. years ago whhen raced in the late 70 and 80's Richard Griffin who drove for Steve Bagwell said his dyno was if he had to turn his head around to the back to see a competitor he was ok if he could see him without he was in trouble. His dyno was the race track.
Posted By: cgall
Re: Columbus Results? - 10/10/08 08:51 PM
Bales did win best appearing at the Columbus Sportsnationals, there is a pic of him on pg. 114 of this week's ND.
Don is not an engine builder, he is more of a Michael Ogburn type, he has a high profile job in another field. Once he gets the right people working with him, look out, I have seen the man bracket race, and he is the real deal.
Don is not an engine builder, he is more of a Michael Ogburn type, he has a high profile job in another field. Once he gets the right people working with him, look out, I have seen the man bracket race, and he is the real deal.
Posted By: Jared_Jordan
Re: Columbus Results? - 10/11/08 12:46 AM
Well if he can drive then he's not the "Michael Ogburn" type. LOL
Sorry Mike...couldn't resist.
Sorry Mike...couldn't resist.
Posted By: Jared_Jordan
Re: Columbus Results? - 10/11/08 04:09 PM
Nice run for this morning at Richmond. 8.560 @ 154.30
this morning at Richmond. 8.560 @ 154.30
Posted By: warfish
Re: Columbus Results? - 10/11/08 08:01 PM
Warford went a 59 @ 153 at the indy fall classic today. Bales went 88, Jeff went 89. No other hemis there.
cw
cw
Posted By: genuinerocker
Re: Columbus Results? - 10/12/08 01:12 PM
Not sure what the air registered and all that, but was a beautiful day yesterday here in Indy with a temp in the high 70s.....Slight breeze all day...more of the same called for today ....Mornings are still fairly cool....Someone may pay post a better number if they get an early run.....
Posted By: moderncylinder
Re: Columbus Results? - 10/13/08 02:07 AM
i broke a convertor on friday and changed the trans friday night,, i had a few things i was "testing" and i know there are a few guys that follow or support me so ill post my numbers,, the first round of the eliminator i dialed an 8.88 thinking it was going to run an 8.85,, air was 1800ft,, 1600ft first session on saturday when i ran 89, warford ran 59...
i was .014 on the tree,, dialed an 8.88 and ran an 8.90 at 139mph,, starting to lift around 800-900 feet cause i was a car and a half in front of the guy who left before me..
60ft 1.174
330ft 3.505
1/8th 5.500 122.62
then i lifted to real him in
1000 7.283
1/4 8.901 139.60
by me looking at it,, jerry caro, james caro, and little joe,, "should" have been an 8.72-8.75 if i had stayed in it,,
do you agree charlie? i dont have many runs to compare to,, you know increments,, if you ran 5.500 at the 1/8th two years ago or so what would it have run out to be running 151 at the 1/4 or so?
jeff
i was .014 on the tree,, dialed an 8.88 and ran an 8.90 at 139mph,, starting to lift around 800-900 feet cause i was a car and a half in front of the guy who left before me..
60ft 1.174
330ft 3.505
1/8th 5.500 122.62
then i lifted to real him in
1000 7.283
1/4 8.901 139.60
by me looking at it,, jerry caro, james caro, and little joe,, "should" have been an 8.72-8.75 if i had stayed in it,,
do you agree charlie? i dont have many runs to compare to,, you know increments,, if you ran 5.500 at the 1/8th two years ago or so what would it have run out to be running 151 at the 1/4 or so?
jeff
Posted By: warfish
Re: Columbus Results? - 10/13/08 11:30 AM
what happened next rd?
what were your #'s on the .88 run?
what were your #'s on the .88 run?
Posted By: moderncylinder
Re: Columbus Results? - 10/13/08 01:16 PM
i lost that round,, the guy i raced had a .003 light and ran 9.062 on a 9.06 dial,, a .005 package.
60ft 1.211
330 3.595
660 5.617 121.25
1000 7.38
1320 8.890 147.99
it was 1600ft that run, i had too much jet in it.
the 2nd qualifing run i leaned it back out, but it got up and unloaded about 30ft out and shifted into 2nd and it has a small 2nd gear and it just killed it,, felt like it fell into a hole in the car.
60ft 1.252
330 3.671
660 5.70 120.85
1000 7.467
1320 8.976 148.48
i had 2750ft on that run,, close to same as us nationals
here was the best run with a motor i built in little joes car
60ft 1.204
330 3.517
660 5.488
1000 7.209
1320 8.683
a run jerry made
60ft 1.179
330 3.530
660 5.535 122.22
1000 7.285
1320 8.787 149.07
i know i would have run the back half faster than this run and having .03 on him at the 330 and 1.8th,, thats where i got that id run an 8.75,,i lifted some to try to pull him in closer to me right after the 1/8th, so i know the 1000ft is off a little,, but then i lifted completely out of it just about about 1100ft,, too much and he went past me by a foot or two,, but either way i was happy that i made a small change and it woke up alot, i need to test. i dont know if im going to maple grove but i made progress this past weekend.
jeff
60ft 1.211
330 3.595
660 5.617 121.25
1000 7.38
1320 8.890 147.99
it was 1600ft that run, i had too much jet in it.
the 2nd qualifing run i leaned it back out, but it got up and unloaded about 30ft out and shifted into 2nd and it has a small 2nd gear and it just killed it,, felt like it fell into a hole in the car.
60ft 1.252
330 3.671
660 5.70 120.85
1000 7.467
1320 8.976 148.48
i had 2750ft on that run,, close to same as us nationals
here was the best run with a motor i built in little joes car
60ft 1.204
330 3.517
660 5.488
1000 7.209
1320 8.683
a run jerry made
60ft 1.179
330 3.530
660 5.535 122.22
1000 7.285
1320 8.787 149.07
i know i would have run the back half faster than this run and having .03 on him at the 330 and 1.8th,, thats where i got that id run an 8.75,,i lifted some to try to pull him in closer to me right after the 1/8th, so i know the 1000ft is off a little,, but then i lifted completely out of it just about about 1100ft,, too much and he went past me by a foot or two,, but either way i was happy that i made a small change and it woke up alot, i need to test. i dont know if im going to maple grove but i made progress this past weekend.
jeff
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: Columbus Results? - 10/13/08 03:55 PM
Come on to maple grove The more you run the more you learn esp. with everyone there.
The more you run the more you learn esp. with everyone there.
Posted By: Defbob
Re: Columbus Results? - 10/13/08 10:18 PM
With Bucky there, the other racers can learn something about running .40's
Posted By: nitrojoe
Mopar News - 10/14/08 02:14 AM
I'm figuring you all have heard that Hakim and Donato (sorry if spelling is wrong) is now gone from Chysler, it will be interesting what is next for hemi shootouts as I was hearing rumors at Columbus they was maybe pulling plug on all shootouts. This not a good thing at all after many people have sunk lots of time and money in their Darts and Cudas to keep up with the main heard of elephants.
Will it go back to running for a wally and just a few bucks? Who will start bailing out of these cash elephants? All good question.
Remember Donato was heading the new Challenger deal also. I never did see Jon Clark at Columbus but i heard he is still with them.
Just food for thoughts.
Will it go back to running for a wally and just a few bucks? Who will start bailing out of these cash elephants? All good question.
Remember Donato was heading the new Challenger deal also. I never did see Jon Clark at Columbus but i heard he is still with them.
Just food for thoughts.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Mopar News - 10/14/08 03:08 AM
maybe hakim got caned for that goofey hair cut.yeah it will be funny to see who will travel just for a wally.no matter what et's will keep a few in the game for the long haul. oh when i post can i be this guy
oh when i post can i be this guy
Posted By: sunroofgtx
Re: Mopar News - 10/14/08 03:19 AM
Quote:
I'm figuring you all have heard that Hakim and Donato (sorry if spelling is wrong) is now gone from Chysler, it will be interesting what is next for hemi shootouts as I was hearing rumors at Columbus they was maybe pulling plug on all shootouts. This not a good thing at all after many people have sunk lots of time and money in their Darts and Cudas to keep up with the main heard of elephants.
Will it go back to running for a wally and just a few bucks? Who will start bailing out of these cash elephants?
Just food for thoughts.
I heard that Chrysler Classic Events , the Blankenships, are going to make a play for the series. He maybe putting together a package. It will be picked up by somebody. We are trying to step up a sponsorship package for whomever is the highest bidder for the series.
Posted By: J_BODY
Re: Mopar News - 10/14/08 03:21 AM
Quote:
tuki =
CW =
SR. =
Buck =
jeff =
Posted By: CMcAllister
Re: Mopar News - 10/14/08 04:42 PM
More like this guy... ...TURN IT UP!
...TURN IT UP!
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: Mopar News - 10/15/08 12:51 PM
Who's comin to the dutch?I know Rains, Lil joe,Helms J,allen David,Darryl,Pancake,Wolkwitz,Danials Bales?West coast? ?Woo?Comela?Any new guys?
Rains, Lil joe,Helms J,allen David,Darryl,Pancake,Wolkwitz,Danials Bales?West coast? ?Woo?Comela?Any new guys?
Posted By: DJVCuda
Re: Mopar News - 10/15/08 12:54 PM
Quote:
Who's comin to the dutch?I know
None that can come close to this paint job - thats for sure!
Posted By: island hemi
Re: Mopar News - 10/15/08 01:26 PM
I will be there. Looks like a great weather prediction so far for the Reading area. 2 L's Bucky. Chuck
Posted By: warfish
Re: Mopar News - 10/15/08 05:29 PM
the car show is down the street.
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: Mopar News - 10/15/08 08:29 PM
Why don't you bring your beauties down the street?
Posted By: Silver Bullet
Re: Mopar News - 10/15/08 09:26 PM
I'll be there (for the car show that is)
Posted By: Defbob
Re: Mopar News - 10/15/08 10:05 PM
Quote:
the car show is down the street.
they misspelled Fishstick
Posted By: MikeCompTA 57
Re: Mopar News - 10/15/08 11:03 PM
Quote:
I'll be there (for the car show that is)
Bring both of them!
Posted By: wldtm
Re: Mopar News - 10/16/08 02:30 AM
Quote:
the car show is down the street.
only makes sense to me that your car be beautiful if you own a body shop. got to pay for those bullets somehow. just my opinion...
justin m
Posted By: B G Racing
Re: Mopar News - 10/16/08 12:47 PM
Quote:Beautiful car Donny,you however look like
I'll be there (for the car show that is)
Stay in touch.
Posted By: warfish
wax works - 10/19/08 12:28 AM
my dad cleaned up my car for me, this was the result. Remember to open the attachment to see it better.
800# air
we're ready, are you?
800# air
we're ready, are you?
Posted By: 68Fastback
Re: wax works - 10/19/08 10:34 AM
Wow I remember seeing these cars new who would of thought, not your cars just back in 68, that is incredible. Congrats.
Posted By: Jared_Jordan
Re: wax works - 10/19/08 05:17 PM
Looks like was right. 30's are going to happen soon.
was right. 30's are going to happen soon.
Posted By: mr2performance
Re: wax works - 10/19/08 05:41 PM
I didn't need to open the attachment to see the numbers, they were already on the scoreboards.
Mike
Mike
Posted By: LO23
Re: wax works - 10/19/08 08:38 PM
159.01 MPH WOW! AWESOME is that the fastest 1/4 mph anyone in this class has gone?
warfish?
anyone?
thanks
is that the fastest 1/4 mph anyone in this class has gone?warfish?
anyone?
thanks
Posted By: sshemifan
Re: wax works - 10/20/08 12:50 AM
Awesome run, Charlie! Your Dad and Rains don't look too shabby either Good Luck to all going to the Dutch----
Regards, John
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: wax works - 10/20/08 01:06 PM
Ran in the 40's two years ago glad to see you finally caught up.
Posted By: warfish
Re: wax works - 10/20/08 03:19 PM
you were running 80's last time I raced you. looks like I coulda ran 20's when you went 40's.
3 more days till we find out. We decided that instead of t-shirts, we are going to start selling camo depends undergarments for men after qualifying is over.
do you have a good motor yet, or is it still excuse city?
later
cw
3 more days till we find out. We decided that instead of t-shirts, we are going to start selling camo depends undergarments for men after qualifying is over.
do you have a good motor yet, or is it still excuse city?
later
cw
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: wax works - 10/20/08 03:54 PM
Hey John Rains "Why would you go anywhere else unless you want to lose"looks like he was the slowest at the test session.And no I think when I went 40's you were running 50's Still got my bracket motor and still not scared.Looks like the only ones at indy and columbus that need depends are your customers with there senior moments on the tree. P.s. you got that thing certified to run 40's
P.s. you got that thing certified to run 40's
Posted By: estcsthemi18
Re: wax works - 10/20/08 05:17 PM
Posted By: jake4cars
Re: wax works - 10/20/08 07:06 PM
Posted By: ro23car
Re: wax works - 10/20/08 08:01 PM
Quote:holy crapbatman
Hey John Rains "Why would you go anywhere else unless you want to lose"looks like he was the slowest at the test session.And no I think when I went 40's you were running 50's Still got my bracket motor and still not scared.Looks like the only ones at indy and columbus that need depends are your customers with there senior moments on the tree.
Posted By: warfish
Re: wax works - 10/20/08 08:46 PM
Quote:
Hey John Rains "Why would you go anywhere else unless you want to lose"looks like he was the slowest at the test session.And no I think when I went 40's you were running 50's Still got my bracket motor and still not scared.Looks like the only ones at indy and columbus that need depends are your customers with there senior moments on the tree.
If my memory serves me, it was one of my customers (Henson) that ran the first 40. The performance of my customers in comparison to me has nothing to do with how slow you are. I think I have done all I can do to help my customers, if I run their motor in my car, and it is .05 faster than it runs in theirs, what am I supposed to do. I dont build cars. As far a my chassis cert, I guess I can see if I can win shutting off at the 1000'
cw
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: wax works - 10/20/08 09:16 PM
You probably can win shutting off at the 1000' against your customers the way they drive against you.they must be scared you'll take some of that great h.p. away.I may be slow but I'll be there.I seen a bumper sticker the other day you might like I think it said Jesel loves you but everyone else thinks your an a$$hole.or maybe it was Jesus,Sorry ..... P.s. hows Lil joe's motor?all thats right you blew it up on the dyno.I guess he won't be at M.G.
..... P.s. hows Lil joe's motor?all thats right you blew it up on the dyno.I guess he won't be at M.G.
Posted By: VernMotor
Re: wax works - 10/20/08 09:34 PM
I think the gloves came off !!!
Posted By: REHBERGERRACING
Re: wax works - 10/20/08 09:55 PM
pass the salt...
Posted By: island hemi
Re: wax works - 10/20/08 10:21 PM
Bucky i need to tell you that as a customer of Charlie Wescott and his dad nobody has treated me any better. Iam talking HP for the money spent or hospitality. Chuck Comella
Posted By: Mroctober
Re: wax works - 10/20/08 10:59 PM
Can we get alone!!! I like both you.
I like both you.
Posted By: ro23car
Re: wax works - 10/20/08 11:35 PM
Quote:whooooooooooo daddy dats what im talkin about hmmmmmmmm hey chuck what dont ya really show em click it off at the 880 mark go get em boyz
You probably can win shutting off at the :1000' against your customers the way they drive against you.they must be scared you'll take some of that great h.p. away.I may be slow but I'll be there.I seen a bumper sticker the other day you might like I think it said Jesel loves you but everyone else thinks your an a$$hole.or maybe it was Jesus,Sorry
Posted By: sshemifan
Re: wax works - 10/21/08 12:06 AM
Just to change direction a little bit......Does anyone know who bought some of the West Virginia Hemi cars from Brotherton, ad on Racing Junk says they only have one of the cars left??? Regards, John
Posted By: warfish
Re: wax works - 10/21/08 01:08 AM
Quote:
You probably can win shutting off at the 1000' against your customers the way they drive against you.they must be scared you'll take some of that great h.p. away.I may be slow but I'll be there.I seen a bumper sticker the other day you might like I think it said Jesel loves you but everyone else thinks your an a$$hole.or maybe it was Jesus,Sorry
L joes motor broke a rod bolt last week on the dyno. I was trying to make it better for him, and after the 3rd day of testing, I had a mishap. I am sure that never happens to anyone else. I think he is going with a different motor, not sure. Whats your problem anyways, its not my fault you are not the big dog anymore, (were you ever?) I think before everyone starts dogging me for outrunning my customers, they should talk to them and see if they are happy with the effort I put forth for them. What kind of effort does your guy put forth? 3 years and we are still waiting for the "good" motor? Sounds like maybe he is having a "senior moment". My dad wanted to know if travis had a "junior moment" when he ran your car into the wall at the dutch a couple years ago. You are in no position to be throwing stones, you have had enough issues of your own. you need to get to work, polish less, test more.
BTW my chassis is certified to go 7.99 until 09.
Thanks for bringing it up, I got it handled this afternoon.
cw
Posted By: Defbob
Re: wax works - 10/21/08 01:44 AM
Quote:Quote:
You probably can win shutting off at the 1000' against your customers the way they drive against you.they must be scared you'll take some of that great h.p. away.I may be slow but I'll be there.I seen a bumper sticker the other day you might like I think it said Jesel loves you but everyone else thinks your an a$$hole.or maybe it was Jesus,Sorry
L joes motor broke a rod bolt last week on the dyno. I was trying to make it better for him, and after the 3rd day of testing, I had a mishap. I am sure that never happens to anyone else. I think he is going with a different motor, not sure. Whats your problem anyways, its not my fault you are not the big dog anymore, (were you ever?) I think before everyone starts dogging me for outrunning my customers, they should talk to them and see if they are happy with the effort I put forth for them. What kind of effort does your guy put forth? 3 years and we are still waiting for the "good" motor? Sounds like maybe he is having a "senior moment". My dad wanted to know if travis had a "junior moment" when he ran your car into the wall at the dutch a couple years ago. You are in no position to be throwing stones, you have had enough issues of your own. you need to get to work, polish less, test more.
BTW my chassis is certified to go 7.99 until 09.
Thanks for bringing it up, I got it handled this afternoon.
cw
"I think he is going with a different motor"
ya think
"3 years and we are still waiting for the "good" motor?"
seems like his "Bracket" motor has been good enough to stay ahead of you
Posted By: J_BODY
Re: wax works - 10/21/08 02:10 AM
Quote:
I seen a bumper sticker the other day you might like I think it said Jesel loves you but everyone else thinks your an a$$hole.or maybe it was Jesus,Sorry
Posted By: 68Fastback
Re: SS/AH - 10/21/08 06:52 AM
How many races you guys have till season is over.
Posted By: warfish
Re: wax works - 10/21/08 11:36 AM
is it def bob, or mentally challenged bob? when has he been in front of me? did I miss it.
I am done with this, we are loaded up, amd we are all leaving today. Rains got here last night, and chuck is here too. we should be there wednesday to see what the next crying session will be about. My new shipment of t shirts came in finally, so all the peolple that have been emailing me, if you are going, we will have them.
later
and in response to 68F, this is it for the season, the points championship will be awarded at this race.
cw
I am done with this, we are loaded up, amd we are all leaving today. Rains got here last night, and chuck is here too. we should be there wednesday to see what the next crying session will be about. My new shipment of t shirts came in finally, so all the peolple that have been emailing me, if you are going, we will have them.
later
and in response to 68F, this is it for the season, the points championship will be awarded at this race.
cw
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: wax works - 10/21/08 12:53 PM
I just wanted to take this time to thank both Charlie and his Dad for everything they have done for us. We are very pleased with the performance Charlie has provied us. We have NO-PROBLEM with Charlie's performance,Charlie has gone above and beyond to help us get to where we are today. How many guys put your motor in their car,test our car,answer the phone day or night Nobody but Charlie,When your home, Charlie is at the track testing or in the shop on the dyno,Thanks again Mel & Randy Good Luck this weekend & Save Travel
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: wax works - 10/21/08 01:19 PM
You can dish it but you can't take it.Maybe some day you will get to drive your car @140 with oil on all 4 tires we'll see how fun that is for you.That is the most stupid comment you have ever made.I'm done with your childishness grow up little boy.
Posted By: Quiksilver II
Re: wax works - 10/22/08 09:28 AM
My goodness what does an A body feel like at 8.42 or 159 MPH! It seams that when the cars hook MPH goes away by a bunch. Are you makeing the kind of HP where we could see 8.30's next year? If so where I will be there! Rick.
Posted By: JAKE68
Re: wax works - 10/22/08 12:15 PM
If the track and weather hold out you may see it this week end at the Dutch.
Posted By: 64ssmax
Re: wax works - 10/23/08 12:53 PM
Quote:
If the track and weather hold out you may see it this week end at the Dutch.
BIG day today!
Any info found out about time runs from the Dutch today please post them.
Posted By: welkerm
Dutch Classic Results - 10/23/08 03:21 PM
Live timing:
http://www.1320go.com/maplegrove/livetiming.php
Live Camera from the starting line w/ audio from the track announcer:
http://www.maplegroveraceway.com/
From the stocker runs Thur. AM, it is very fast.
SS is coming on now, 11:25AM EST, Hemi cars will run at the end of SS.
Wish I was there in person.
http://www.1320go.com/maplegrove/livetiming.php
Live Camera from the starting line w/ audio from the track announcer:
http://www.maplegroveraceway.com/
From the stocker runs Thur. AM, it is very fast.
SS is coming on now, 11:25AM EST, Hemi cars will run at the end of SS.
Wish I was there in person.
Posted By: DJVCuda
Re: Dutch Classic Results - 10/23/08 04:17 PM
cool i can watch during lunch break!
Posted By: DJVCuda
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 10/23/08 04:25 PM
8.42 for Jr...
Posted By: JAKE68
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 10/23/08 04:50 PM
comella 11.76
westcott sr.21.06
jr.8.42
raines8.46
marvel8.64
brooks9.22
wendel9.53
lee8.73
kobilsky8.81
smyth8.79
wolkowicz9.41
bails8.81
pancake8.49
daniels8.45
barton8.51
Hope I got that right
westcott sr.21.06
jr.8.42
raines8.46
marvel8.64
brooks9.22
wendel9.53
lee8.73
kobilsky8.81
smyth8.79
wolkowicz9.41
bails8.81
pancake8.49
daniels8.45
barton8.51
Hope I got that right
Posted By: JAKE68
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 10/23/08 05:15 PM
Just realized where was Bucky,Tuetons,warford,Dipilo,Bob Walkawicz,??? Anyone else I am missing?
Posted By: JAKE68
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 10/23/08 07:09 PM
Posted By: Stewart
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 10/23/08 08:23 PM
Think with Lil Joes good finish at Noble last week they decided to go to the Div 2 points meet at Reynolds. Good finish might help in the Div 4 standings.
Posted By: dragonfish
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 10/23/08 09:59 PM
report on the 3rd session CW jr - 8.383; CW sr- 8.416
Posted By: jim sciortino
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 10/24/08 12:12 AM
Quote:OH THE HUMANITY!!!
report on the 3rd session CW jr - 8.383; CW sr- 8.416
Posted By: Defbob
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 10/24/08 12:20 AM
Quote:
report on the 3rd session CW jr - 8.383; CW sr- 8.416
I have a bad feeling about this
Posted By: Jared_Jordan
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 10/24/08 12:38 AM
From another site:
60': 1.158
330': 3.382
660': 5.293
660 mph: 128.07
1000': 6.959
1320': 8.383
1320 mph: 156.68
Nice work CW. It is nice to see that the rest of the field has closed the gap some.
60': 1.158
330': 3.382
660': 5.293
660 mph: 128.07
1000': 6.959
1320': 8.383
1320 mph: 156.68
Nice work CW. It is nice to see that the rest of the field has closed the gap some.
Posted By: DavidDean
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 10/24/08 01:21 AM
Any of you guys going out to Vegas?
Posted By: Anonymous
Post deleted by moparts - 10/24/08 03:27 AM
Posted By: drag345
Fast runs - 10/24/08 08:49 AM
Congratulations CW on some awsome runs !
drag345
drag345
Posted By: dragonfish
Re: Fast runs - 10/24/08 11:04 AM
HEMICHALLENGE at the DUTCH will be today, because of rain forecast for tomorrow
Posted By: sshemifan
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 10/24/08 01:03 PM
Quote:
report on the 3rd session CW jr - 8.383; CW sr- 8.416
Wow--all I can say is UN-freakin-Believable!!!Has the record been reset, or was there no backup? Looks like most of the AH cars are flyin'
Regards, John
Posted By: moparacer
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 10/24/08 02:28 PM
What time are they going to start the Hemi Shootout today? I want to watch the live feed.
Posted By: dan1320
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 10/24/08 04:27 PM
The live feed says after Super Stock they are gonna run a time trial for S/Gas and then first round of Hemi so my guess is around 1:30 or so.
Posted By: bigtimeauto
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 10/24/08 04:41 PM
they just called the hemi challenge cars to the lanes
Posted By: B3422W5
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 10/24/08 04:56 PM
where can one get to the live feed???
Posted By: dan1320
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 10/24/08 04:58 PM
Posted By: sshemifan
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 10/24/08 05:29 PM
Round 1 winners: Comella, both Westcotts, Bucky, Pancake, Barton, Daniels, Raines.
They will be back in about an hour
Regards, John
They will be back in about an hour
Regards, John
Posted By: cgall
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 10/24/08 06:15 PM
Too bad Jeff went red against CW, I could hear 8.40 for CW but no ET for Jeff.
Posted By: B3422W5
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 10/24/08 06:20 PM
Track cleanup about done.
run out the rest of TD, then TS, then 8 Hemi's left will run.
run out the rest of TD, then TS, then 8 Hemi's left will run.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 10/24/08 07:22 PM
Hey Everybody!
I've been following the shootout via the webcast, too bad I'm stuck at work and not at the track!
An awesome site I'd like to share with everybody is http://www.hemishootout.net
I hope everyone takes a second to check it out, we've put a lot of work into it just for you!!
I've gotta get back to work, 1.5 hours left until the weekend - woohoo!
I've been following the shootout via the webcast, too bad I'm stuck at work and not at the track!
An awesome site I'd like to share with everybody is http://www.hemishootout.net
I hope everyone takes a second to check it out, we've put a lot of work into it just for you!!
I've gotta get back to work, 1.5 hours left until the weekend - woohoo!
Posted By: crc
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 10/24/08 07:57 PM
CW with another 8.38! Awesome!
Posted By: Defbob
Re: Fast runs - 10/24/08 08:24 PM
Quote:
HEMICHALLENGE at the DUTCH will be today, because of rain forecast for tomorrow
crap there goes my weekend. I was going to drive down tonight for the weekend to watch the Hemi Challenge.
Posted By: JAKE68
Re: Fast runs - 10/24/08 09:04 PM
Pancake vs. Daniels in the finals
Posted By: Anonymous
Post deleted by Defbob - 10/24/08 10:26 PM
Posted By: mk_
Re: Fast runs - 10/24/08 11:53 PM
Do both Daniels and Pancake have a Barton Engines?
Posted By: dan1320
Re: Fast runs - 10/24/08 11:56 PM
All Barton final this time.
Posted By: sshemifan
Re: Fast runs - 10/25/08 12:59 AM
Quote:
Daniels got the win on a double red light start.
web page
Congrats to Jim Daniels on a great win!!! Regards, John
Posted By: cudadoug
Re: Fast runs - 10/25/08 01:06 AM
So while that 8.38 was STOUT, I'm curious to hear CW tell us why he fell off to "only" a .65 in the 3rd round...
Posted By: sshemifan
Re: Fast runs - 10/25/08 01:13 AM
Quote:
So while that 8.38 was STOUT, I'm curious to hear CW tell us why he fell off to "only" a .65 in the 3rd round...
From DRC.....
"Westcott spun the rear tires about 15 feet out from the starting line."
Regards, John
Posted By: DJVCuda
Re: Fast runs - 10/25/08 01:28 AM
Quote:Quote:
So while that 8.38 was STOUT, I'm curious to hear CW tell us why he fell off to "only" a .65 in the 3rd round...
From DRC.....
"Westcott spun the rear tires about 15 feet out from the starting line."
Regards, John
thats correct - he spun hard about a car legnth out and then he got into that radial shake it seemed.
His father red lighted for an all barton finial, and there was no double red light finial.
my photo's show otherwise.
Posted By: bigtimeauto
Re: Fast runs - 10/25/08 01:55 AM
actually both cars can red light but only the first one gets the red bulb.
Posted By: Sherminator
Re: Fast runs - 10/25/08 02:02 AM
pancake always seems to be able to take a 4 or 5 th car and drive his way to the finals.
Posted By: Chevy454
Re: Fast runs - 10/25/08 02:19 AM
Live timing showed -.012 to a -.005 in the final...double bulb.
Posted By: Joe Grippo
Re: Fast runs - 10/25/08 04:26 AM
Here is a sampling of Hemi stuff from the Dutch Classic. More later....
Bill Brooks -
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The Winnah!! Jim Daniels -
Chuck Comella -
John Rains -
Don Bales -
Jim Pancake -
Jr & Sr. -
More later or click below...
Bill Brooks -
- - -The Winnah!! Jim Daniels -
Chuck Comella -
John Rains -
Don Bales -
Jim Pancake -
Jr & Sr. -
More later or click below...
Posted By: Chris'sBarracuda
Re: Fast runs - 10/25/08 04:31 AM
What's the deal with the camber settings on these cars?
Chris..
Chris..
Posted By: DJVCuda
Re: Fast runs - 10/25/08 09:08 AM
thanks - I stand corrected and learned something new!
Posted By: moderncylinder
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 10/25/08 10:28 AM
we just pulled in,,, id liked to thank bucky hess for all his work to get extra gifts and prizes for this dutch classic race.
i ran an 8.62 against charlies 8.40,, i think i slowed the car down maybe .02 by trying something who knows,, the run in the morning was my quickest but everyone else i think slowed up, i ran 8.592 with a 1.157 60ft,, i made progress...
that track was absolutley awesome,, my car went 1.15 and the 1.16 against charlie with the front tight and about 1 foot under the front tires and never hit the wheelie bars. im glad i went and will go next year as well, hopefully with more power..
jeff
i ran an 8.62 against charlies 8.40,, i think i slowed the car down maybe .02 by trying something who knows,, the run in the morning was my quickest but everyone else i think slowed up, i ran 8.592 with a 1.157 60ft,, i made progress...
that track was absolutley awesome,, my car went 1.15 and the 1.16 against charlie with the front tight and about 1 foot under the front tires and never hit the wheelie bars. im glad i went and will go next year as well, hopefully with more power..
jeff
Posted By: wldtm
Re: Fast runs - 10/25/08 01:02 PM
Quote:
What's the deal with the camber settings on these cars?
Chris..
just a guess, but when the front comes up in the run, wouldnt the neg camber come closer to zero, where you would want it. align it to where the ride height is during the run. i will let one of the drivers explain, but thats what i would think
justin
Posted By: 11secdart
Re: Fast runs - 10/25/08 01:46 PM
Very impressive CW, is the 38 a record?
Posted By: bigtimeauto
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 10/25/08 04:09 PM
How come these cars do not have chutes on them?
Posted By: wildcargo
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 10/25/08 04:26 PM
Just want to say thanks for the heads up yesterday about Hemi shoot out. left here at 8:30 and I got to the stands just as the first pair were going down for last round qualf. Thay put on a good show just wish more could have made it. Boy Pancake must have a big following as there was a lot of cheering when he got the win over Westcott
Posted By: moderncylinder
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 10/25/08 05:13 PM
a few cars have chutes on them,, a guy at the staging lanes told me to go look at the shut down before i ran implying it was short. i only ran 151, but i ran with charlie jr running 156,, didnt look like he had a problem stopping to make the turn,, i didnt either,, but again, i only ran 151.
i dont think nhra cares,, if you start running 160+ they might enforce that.
at the tech in,, they were checking for buldges in the inner fender for tire clearance that guys started doing a few years back,, but then they came out over last winter and said absolutely you could not do it, well there you were allowed to have a 1" hump,, they checked the shelf where the fender bolts on to the inner fender shelf and that had to be 3",, mine is stock and its 4",, just so anyone out there building a car knows what they were looking for..
jeff
i dont think nhra cares,, if you start running 160+ they might enforce that.
at the tech in,, they were checking for buldges in the inner fender for tire clearance that guys started doing a few years back,, but then they came out over last winter and said absolutely you could not do it, well there you were allowed to have a 1" hump,, they checked the shelf where the fender bolts on to the inner fender shelf and that had to be 3",, mine is stock and its 4",, just so anyone out there building a car knows what they were looking for..
jeff
Posted By: bigtimeauto
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 10/25/08 05:30 PM
I was just curious thats all. Maple grove is short but i can stop there at 160+ without using the chute on my car.(but tech busts our [Edited by Moparts - Keep it clean] if we don't have one)
Posted By: DodgeCharger
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 10/25/08 07:19 PM
Quote:
Boy Pancake must have a big following as there was a lot of cheering when he got the win over Westcott
I met Pancake a couple of times he seems like a really good guy. On the other hand the cheers were most likely because Charlie got beat. To say Charlie is a little cocky would be an understatement.
Unfortunately he does not know how to handle success with class.
It appears some of the others are starting to close in on CW. It will be interesting to see how he handles it when someone starts beating his car on a regular basis and he is no longer top dog?
Posted By: Ben Holt
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 10/25/08 08:30 PM
I have to disagree with you a on this one. Yes, people were pretty pumped when we beat Charlie, yeah everybody likes Jim because he is awesome....but have you ever met Charlie before? Ever had a conversation with him somewhere besides the racetrack? Or only read what he types on here occasionally. He is a main reason why this class has become such a success lately. His performance and consistency has made everyone else jump up a level, and has made for better racing across the board. Will he ever get supplanted from the top? Possibly. Will he fight like hell to get it back? Absolutely. That's what he does. No one works harder than he does at it. If you think he is cocky or whatever, how would youlike it if you succeeded very well at your job (whatver it may be), and everyone claimed it was because you manipulated something, or backdoored your way there? Wouldn't you feel a little slighted, too? Plus, the last time I checked, this racing isn't a popularity contest, it's who gets to the finish line fastest. No one ever praised WJ for being America's sweetheart, but I'm pretty sure he's on NHRA's top 10 list of best drivers of all time......
I'm just calling it like I see it...
I'm just calling it like I see it...
Posted By: 11secdart
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 10/25/08 08:36 PM
Well Said!
Posted By: scottb
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 10/25/08 08:38 PM
If CW seems a little cocky on here he has the right to be .He is on top of his game and all his hard work has paid off best of luck to CW and his dad keep up the good work
Posted By: Ben Holt
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 10/25/08 08:38 PM
My take on the Dutch:
It sure is cool to have a mixture of awesome air and a great track. And everyone should realize how awesome of a move it was for D1 to move the shootout up to Friday. The weather was perfect, and made for great racing, and it's still raining there now, I think.
1.) Daniels... you the man!!! You have worked hard and your car has shown it, and you are by far one of the top drivers in the class now, and have the trophy (and check!!!) to prove it.
2.) Charlie and Sr.... what can I say, you guys are so fast it's not even funny. Congrats on the record!!! And you sure have the 4 spd car running awesome!!!
3.) Jeff... very impressive!!! who would've thought you be this far along already. Good work man!!
4.) David B.....Just a little better light and you would've been in that semi!!!
5.) Big Jim Pancake... what can I say about Jim except that he is like a big brother to me, and it sure is a blast to be racing with the best driver and car out there!!! 1.135!!!!!!!!
6.) Almost forgot Comella!!!!! You are my hero, man. I was telling a few guys Thursday morning to check you out, because you definitely get the most improved award!!!
Anyways, the Dutch was a blast. Everybody was fast, and it was some awesome racing on Friday. IF you didn't make it you sure missed out. If you do go to these shootouts, you need to make sure and thank Jon Clark. He is the rep from Mopar that puts these together. Tall and always wearing Mopar stuff....he is super cool and knows how cool these cars really are. And thanks to all the racers that show up and make it a good show!!!
It sure is cool to have a mixture of awesome air and a great track. And everyone should realize how awesome of a move it was for D1 to move the shootout up to Friday. The weather was perfect, and made for great racing, and it's still raining there now, I think.
1.) Daniels... you the man!!! You have worked hard and your car has shown it, and you are by far one of the top drivers in the class now, and have the trophy (and check!!!) to prove it.
2.) Charlie and Sr.... what can I say, you guys are so fast it's not even funny. Congrats on the record!!! And you sure have the 4 spd car running awesome!!!
3.) Jeff... very impressive!!! who would've thought you be this far along already. Good work man!!
4.) David B.....Just a little better light and you would've been in that semi!!!
5.) Big Jim Pancake... what can I say about Jim except that he is like a big brother to me, and it sure is a blast to be racing with the best driver and car out there!!! 1.135!!!!!!!!
6.) Almost forgot Comella!!!!! You are my hero, man. I was telling a few guys Thursday morning to check you out, because you definitely get the most improved award!!!
Anyways, the Dutch was a blast. Everybody was fast, and it was some awesome racing on Friday. IF you didn't make it you sure missed out. If you do go to these shootouts, you need to make sure and thank Jon Clark. He is the rep from Mopar that puts these together. Tall and always wearing Mopar stuff....he is super cool and knows how cool these cars really are. And thanks to all the racers that show up and make it a good show!!!
Posted By: Stewart
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 10/25/08 09:59 PM
Congrats to Big Jim.
And to Charlie Jr on the .38. Good air or not, thats quick. Have to agree with Ben on Charlie.
As for chutes. Read the rulebook. Not required in SS or S. Page 75 under General Regs-parachutes states "If outlined in Class Requirements,". It is not mentioned in S or SS class requirements. It is called out for Comp, SG and SC and ET bracket cars. As for the ET chart in the back saying 9.99 or quicker or 150mph+ that chart also states that the chart does not supersede the rulebook. It is only a quick reference guide and it directs you to the correct section in the rulebook. My guess is NHRA will require them soon.
And to Charlie Jr on the .38. Good air or not, thats quick. Have to agree with Ben on Charlie.
As for chutes. Read the rulebook. Not required in SS or S. Page 75 under General Regs-parachutes states "If outlined in Class Requirements,". It is not mentioned in S or SS class requirements. It is called out for Comp, SG and SC and ET bracket cars. As for the ET chart in the back saying 9.99 or quicker or 150mph+ that chart also states that the chart does not supersede the rulebook. It is only a quick reference guide and it directs you to the correct section in the rulebook. My guess is NHRA will require them soon.
Posted By: bigjohn65
Re: Fast runs - 10/26/08 12:41 AM
Thanks for the great pics,Could not get away from work to go.Love that rolling thunder.
With the tension there among the racers I bet it was like the old westerns in the center of town.
BIG JOHN
With the tension there among the racers I bet it was like the old westerns in the center of town.
BIG JOHN
Posted By: sunroofgtx
Re: Fast runs - 10/26/08 02:55 PM
Could somebody please post some pics ? I'd love to see the Native American , 67 Plymouth , also.. Thanks.. Great news . Keep it up , guys.
Posted By: OUTLAWSSAA
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 10/26/08 05:11 PM
Quote:Quote:
It appears some of the others are starting to close in on CW. It will be interesting to see how he handles it when someone starts beating his car on a regular basis and he is no longer top dog?
The Westcott's had there semi-final opponents by .07&.08.I would not say that is to close.
Posted By: moderncylinder
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 10/26/08 05:44 PM
i can tell you how charlie jr would be if someone was consistently outrunning him,,, his dad would be bringing him plates of food down to the basement or dyno room, and reminding him when its time to goto sleep..
i remember a few years back at belle rose,, charlie and bucky had a time run against each other and bucky was inching away from charlie in high gear,, charlie said to me,, what the hell is that all about????? implying noone could do that,, all you need to do is give him a little inspiration and the next race youll see the result when he possibly might be driving away from everyone.
i remember a few years back at belle rose,, charlie and bucky had a time run against each other and bucky was inching away from charlie in high gear,, charlie said to me,, what the hell is that all about????? implying noone could do that,, all you need to do is give him a little inspiration and the next race youll see the result when he possibly might be driving away from everyone.
Posted By: warfish
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 10/26/08 06:21 PM
Thanks , glad we're buds now, next thing you know you will be jumping off the ground when I lose like .
You were within 3 or 4 of the "king", you should be proud of that. I thought maybe ben holt should have given an award for "high jump as a result of others misfortune award".
We had a good year overall, we dont like to lose, but everyone needs a turn once in a while to keep the class moving forward. I talked to Jon Clark for a while this weekend, and as I have been telling everyone, the sky isnt falling because MP is on the skids. I think things are going ahead next year as they have been in the past.
later
cw
, glad we're buds now, next thing you know you will be jumping off the ground when I lose like . You were within 3 or 4 of the "king", you should be proud of that. I thought maybe ben holt should have given an award for "high jump as a result of others misfortune award".
We had a good year overall, we dont like to lose, but everyone needs a turn once in a while to keep the class moving forward. I talked to Jon Clark for a while this weekend, and as I have been telling everyone, the sky isnt falling because MP is on the skids. I think things are going ahead next year as they have been in the past.
later
cw
Posted By: moderncylinder
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 10/26/08 08:10 PM
i think i was the one high jumping, high 5ing,, asking if anyone caught that on video so i could see it again,,,, i won that award i think...
yes,, i guess i am a fan of big jim
i won that award i think...yes,, i guess i am a fan of big jim
Posted By: Defbob
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 10/27/08 12:29 AM
, you seemed a little shocked when I introduced myself. Congrats on 8.38's. I wasn't there to see them though. I was still in CT when you made those runs.
Posted By: mokid
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 10/27/08 05:49 PM
I too agree with Mr.Holt Mr.Westcott seems like a true ambasdor to racing, to get the ss cars running like they do, you better be siked up if you win, Charlie also took the time out of his day to e-mail me back with information I requested and he doesn't know me from adam. Thanks Mr.Westcott
Posted By: j oliverio
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 10/27/08 07:39 PM
Congratulations to Jim Daniels! Also to Charlie on his 8:38 great run.
Posted By: warfish
more hemi press coverage - 10/28/08 09:33 PM
It may be about us, but it is good for the class as a whole.
http://www.competitionplus.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=8177&Itemid=24
dutch daniels coverage
http://www.competitionplus.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=8289&Itemid=6
later
cw
http://www.competitionplus.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=8177&Itemid=24
dutch daniels coverage
http://www.competitionplus.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=8289&Itemid=6
later
cw
Posted By: warfish
youtube video 8.50 159 - 10/30/08 01:30 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDMfL4HxhBU
some guy that was at martin when we were testing posted this.
some guy that was at martin when we were testing posted this.
Posted By: clonestocker
Re: youtube video 8.50 159 - 10/30/08 01:40 AM
sweet
Posted By: badwej
Re: youtube video 8.50 159 - 10/30/08 03:19 AM
Nice
Posted By: JulieJordan
Re: youtube video 8.50 159 - 10/30/08 03:28 AM
Quote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDMfL4HxhBU
some guy that was at martin when we were testing posted this.
Charlie ~ You need to strap your video camera onto your rollbar for a run or two. You just turn it on when you're ready to stage. We did that at Seattle a few years back. It makes for a trick film, to watch the run from inside the car. Our camera was aimed right over Dad's shoulder so it got the tach, too. Plus the sounds...nothing like a hemi in high gear!
Posted By: Truck Y'all !
Re: ss/ah hemi pic - 10/30/08 02:43 PM
No matter what happens with Mopar's involvement in the Hemi Challenge (things change here every day lately), I wanted to post my thanks to everyone for how hard y'all work to go fast and the way it inspires the rest of us to go for it.
The folks at Maple Grove really get what we're trying to do.
Please don't mis-interperet this post as an early indication of plans to cancel the program. Charlie emailed me to say he made sure to get his check right into the bank!
I am blessed to be associated with a class of high-quality drivers, engine builders, car builders, etc.
Best of luck for the remainder of '08 and we'll see you in '09.
The folks at Maple Grove really get what we're trying to do.
Please don't mis-interperet this post as an early indication of plans to cancel the program. Charlie emailed me to say he made sure to get his check right into the bank!
I am blessed to be associated with a class of high-quality drivers, engine builders, car builders, etc.
Best of luck for the remainder of '08 and we'll see you in '09.
Posted By: Troy
Re: youtube video 8.50 159 - 10/30/08 02:48 PM
Quote:Quote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDMfL4HxhBU
some guy that was at martin when we were testing posted this.
Charlie ~ You need to strap your video camera onto your rollbar for a run or two. You just turn it on when you're ready to stage. We did that at Seattle a few years back. It makes for a trick film, to watch the run from inside the car. Our camera was aimed right over Dad's shoulder so it got the tach, too. Plus the sounds...nothing like a hemi in high gear!
I did this and I learned a few things about my driving technique. I angled the camera so you could see my hands,feet and the tach. I had no idea that when I foot braked the car that I was holding the brake for soooo long. After I saw this and made a little mental adjustment I shaved some time off of my 60's!!
Posted By: warfish
Re: youtube video 8.50 159 - 10/30/08 04:17 PM
I did this and I learned a few things about my driving technique. I angled the camera so you could see my hands,feet and the tach. I had no idea that when I foot braked the car that I was holding the brake for soooo long. After I saw this and made a little mental adjustment I shaved some time off of my 60's!!
thats the good thing about learning to race with a stick car, the car doesnt move until the foot does.
Posted By: sshemifan
Re: wax works - 11/02/08 12:44 PM
Quote:
Regards, John
I'll try this again----
John