BARRELCUDA: THE LAST UPDATE !!!!

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I don't know how, but my post got deleted. Alan, would you be willing to post your assembly list/order for the e body for us rookies if you have one printed out? I'd also like to know how you go about referbing and storing all the small assemblies. You have to be one organized dude to be able to assemble this thing so quickly. Enquiring minds want to know! I am going to be downloading a gob of pics from this post. Gotta be helpful when my turn comes.

Lindy

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Lindy
I certainly would love to help anybody out as far as information goes, but I'm afraid it would take me longer to type (one finger) out a list then it does to restore a car.
Honestly I don't really have an exact order I reapeat, I just like bolting on everything I have pre-finished because it's soo cool to put on nice new parts.

Follow along with these posts and you'll get a prefect idea of the order this particluar project is taking.

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just like bolting on everything I have pre-finished because it's soo cool to put on nice new parts.

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I find it almost a spiritual experience

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Hey Alan,

Are the Barrels hidden behind the wife's blue table cloth

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Don't go there!

Tell him Alan..... TELL HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The car looks great! Purdy as can be...

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Also finished all the body electrical

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It just keeps getting better looking....

Quick question....were all battery trays body color??

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What kind of money is this car going pull in at auction????

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What kind of money is this car going pull in at auction????

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I hope it comes in CDN dollars NOT USD..

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Alan is there any way you can just keep updating one post. Similiar to how Challenger125s post was. It would make it much easier to follow the progress.

Car looks good by the way.

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i asked the same question and got lambasted for not being one of the

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John, I think you phrased it something to the effect of why not just one post of your for sale ad Alan. Didn't your mom ever tell you it isn't what you ask, but how you ask it.

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Alan is there any way you can just keep updating one post. Similiar to how Challenger125s post was. It would make it much easier to follow the progress.

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Question, are you gonna leave the tow hooks mounted?

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Yes...most cars I've restored or dis-mantled have had them in place, this one was no exception

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You and Challenger125 are magicians.

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Challenger125 is light years ahead of me by being able to do all his own body and paint work....

However unlike Challenger125, when the car is at the body shop it gives me plenty of time to restore all the small componets so that re-assembly can go as smoothly as it has been. That's the trick

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Where did the brake valve come from? Is there anyone who rebuilds them? Isn't the master cylinder supposed to be natural finish?

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The brake valve is an original one carefully restored by me.

The Bendix (crimped style) booster was delivered to the assembly line as a unit together with the master cylinder. The complete package was painted completly black at the same time.
I used a real nice clean rustfree, correctly dated power booster and the correct 171 master. Both were sent out to be rebuilt by Jon Stuart Power Brake

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Quick question....were all battery trays body color??

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In 1971 Most battery trays were body colour. It's presumed that some early built cars may have had them blacked out.

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I'd be happy to trade you a correct for '71-up parkerized type finish disc brake master cylinder for that correct for '70 only '171 you got on there now....

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My casting is too rough or rusted to get any kind of numbers off of it.

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I'd guess the latter

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but that looks very well done

like watching a new car get built.

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looking good Alan...which door is getting the empty beer bottle tossed in?

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Curiosity has this cat have you added the total of shipping on all these parts I bet the cost would be.

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I've estimated that shipping parts up here has cost approximatly 30% more then just picking them up in the States.
Each year I go to Carlisle, I spend on average $5K on parts for that very reason.

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Alan your workmanship is incredible but I too have never seen a bell with just a band of overspray

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You have now!

Alan, I have run out of verbal accolades, so I have decided to here forward award you with dancing bananas, using the universal scale of 1 to 10 bananas.

Your most recent post:

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Nice work, I like the whitewalls. You take your critics comments well. Keep up the good work and good luck with it!

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Not only is he doing a fantastic job but he's taking the time to document it for us to follow along!

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he's going to have a lot of fun driving the wheels off of!

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I will ask this again: Did you index the bellhousing???

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Please explain I wasn't aware of any adjustments that can be made to a factory bellhousing

The last 440+6 Cuda I restored used a Lakewood Scatter Shield that had to be index, but I'm honestly not aware of anything that could be done to a factory unit.

Please explain the process

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The last 440+6 Cuda I restored used a Lakewood Scatter Shield that had to be index, but I'm honestly not aware of anything that could be done to a factory unit.

Please explain the process

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]You index a factory bell just like you did the Lakewood and use offset dowels to make any needed corrections.

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Ok...but I still don't understand the need to ???

The reason I needed to change the flywheel is because I was un-knowingly trying to squeeze a 11" aftermarket flywheel into a stock 10 1/2" bellhousing

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Hey Alan, once you had the engine and K-member under the car, what method did you use to lower the car down over the whole assembly?

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Will it be at the Nats or Carlisle next year, I know you are selling it but is the buyer planning to attend either one?

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If own it (cars are never sold until cash is in hand) it WILL be at Carlisle and Moparfest.

If it does sell....I can't say where it will be, I know my white car showed up at the Don Garlits show one year

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Alan, I'm sure some has asked before but I'll ask... where is the under-coating?

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Undercoating is the last thing to be done. Everything gets covered with some amount of undercoat overspray, even the shocks, exhaust etc....

Don't worry, it's coming....

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I think that you are missing some important original pieces ,,,,,,,, PS It looks awsome !

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I know it's been three years, but I'm pretty sure that when we were counting out all that cash, you mentioned that if you ever got a hold of the original shaker stuff that you would pass it along..."part of the deal"

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Right after you said that i would be getting FULL credit for diggin up the old rotter ..... so far nothing but derogatory stuff
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So NFLDer is the one responsible for neglecting the car that long to let it get so bad?

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LOL ... Yes a guy from the province of (NFLDer) Newfoundland, Canada is the person responsible.

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Don't worry about it Jarrod, it's just one of those Canadian things ... LOL



Newfie is another term of endearment for the folk from the island. At this time I believe about 68% of Alberta is inhabited by transplanted Newfies.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newfoundland_and_Labrador

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How come I knew what NFLDer represented is it the Canook blood in a Cajuin? From when we lived up there years ago in the frooooooooozen waste lands.

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You guys weren't in NFLD, you were in my neighborhood...

Acadians

Cajuns

...but close enough that you must have the NFLDer recognition gene, though...

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I think the Newfie who placed the 'Cuda up on barrels should be posthumously commended for his actions. Obviously, he did the best he could.
(Factoid: Fishing boats in Newfoundland are often brought ashore during the off season...and put up on barrels).
For if it were not for this act of preservation, the 'Cuda wouldn't have stood a chance at all, given the extremely corrosive environment it was in.

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The way those cars were built, it was hard to keep them together up here in the rusty northeast seashore areas. I remember seeing 5 year old cars from the era with quarter panels rusted through, fenders with holes in them, etc. Plus, back then not many people considered saving them for the future... so this guy should be commended just for keeping it away from the crusher.

All those solid southern cars now being hauled out of junk yards to be restored would just have been a pile of rust had they been left sitting up here... so just to have kept it in one piece all those years was an accomplishment... the guy certainly doesn't deserve to have his memory crapped on because the car deteriorated.

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Oct 11 ...Re: BARRELCUDA: Day 11 UPDATE !....and PRESTO

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Any progress since???

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Alright thats better ! Your penalty for being 3 years late is ....... drum roll please .......... I'm still keeping the garage art .

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are those NOS mufflers or repo's. 8-69, wow.

the pics don't show very well for me, but what color are the floorboards? is that primer? no paint, no undercoating?

again,

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Arent Sixbarrel cars supposed to have an H pipe?

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Arent Sixbarrel cars supposed to have an H pipe?

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I use to think that too... When I made the clone 440+6 Cuda convertible that was featured in all the magazines in the early 90's I put an H Pipe on that only to have everybody tell me that they didn't come with one.

The "Perfect 10" 440+6 Cuda doesn't have one

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are those NOS mufflers or repo's. 8-69, wow.
Repro's from Dale's Cuda Shop

the pics don't show very well for me, but what color are the floorboards? is that primer? no paint, no undercoating? It's a dull grey coloured rust paint that I used to duplicate the factory "dip grey".

again,

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With all that work, couldn't you just leave the undercoating off? I know this is a purist resto, but it seems a shame to spray that crap on the car - especially when the car will probably never be driven much anyway. Someeone could always spray that stuff on in the future if they really wanted it.

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Looking great as usual. Question for you though...Why primer grey colored splash sheilds? Everyone that i have pulled has be a natural plastic color...

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That's interesting....What colour is plastic naturally?

Those are the original grey plastic...I agree they do look bright and shinny in that picture, but I think it's just the camera flash They'll get blasted with undercoating again anyways.....

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Where's the sign-up sheets for rides?

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I'm offering up 250 thousand rides at $1.00 each....You'll be at the start of the line.....

Sorry...no free rides

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I did manage to get the tail panel black-out done, the stainless trim polished and I'm still working on the taillights.
Gaskets will be 71T/A's FOR SURE

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Yes...There is a secondary hood latch on the hood...the hook type thingmabob.
I just haven't put it on yet because I've been opening and closing the hood so much and it only takes once to forget to "hold it back" and your paint gets pretty scratch in a hurry

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not to mention it's easier on the back of the head

that car is awsome sir

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Hi Alan,
What is your Barrelcuda......... FJ6 2 pack or something else ?

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better get a boot on that pitman arm

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No bare metal here.....It's all spray paint Baby...

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I blasted and painted mine shaft as well!
I used some Gray spray on my shaft too. It was close to that look but how ya get the ends that color and the blue welded look
Thats so nice it is ART

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Thanks Alan , I had a chance to see the World Famous Barrelcuda today, awesome job ,pictures don't lie the car looks great. I can't wait to pay my buck for a ride,if I pay two bucks can I drive it.

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Thanks Steve for stopping by and going easy on me I can only imagine what you're telling Dave right now

There is an open invitation to anybody here on Moparts that would like to stop in and check it out

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That's mighty generous Alan! You mind if I drop off my 71 R/T shaker Challenger for the same treatment that the Cuda is getting?

Darren

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Not at all...I can start it in March 2008....

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Who can argue that the 71 Cuda doesn't have the coolest grill in the whole world??

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Who can argue that the 71 Cuda doesn't have the coolest grill in the whole world??

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70 challenger is in my book but yours is nice too

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Day 32
Did some say "white interior trim" ?????

...OH YEA BABY...

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Who's carpet did you sue, that it has THAT much over hang on it?

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I buy mine interior stuff from DANTE exclusively (shameless plug) ....I believe it's called TRIM PARTS or something like that.
For my next personal car I will try the new carpet that's coming out. I always like to try the new products.

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A/M Cassette or A/M, F/M Cassette? BTW Looking Great!

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AM Man....not much use for FM in NFLD in 1971....The original owner played in a RockBand when he ordered it

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why are there center seatbelts in a console car? or is one set for the shoulder belt?

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I can't answer that....you already did

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Looking good Alan. At the rate you're going you'll be able to bang a few gears before the snow hits.

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Get you $1.00 ready....CDN funds only

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That's an 8-Track isn't it?

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Day 32
Did some say "white interior trim" ?????

...OH YEA BABY...

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Oh YEEEAH! That's what I am talking about. Man, that really looks cool. That car's a jewel. So nice, how will anyone find the guts to drive it? Can't wait to see the vinyl top on her. That'll tie into the interior nicely. Imagine driving that baby home in 1970.

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Ok....
One month exactly has gone by...31 days. I've logged around 60 hours total.
In the early beginning some of you may remember me ranting about how the body shop F-up'd and painted the entire backside of the grill FJ6 green

I've spent nearly 10 hours trying to get it to look like it should....

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alan , the body shop didn't screw that up , they just continued the theme of incorrectly painting EVERYTHING that originally wasn't FJ6 ....

sorry the line for at your feet was too long so i started my own line ...

looks good though ...

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E bodies don't use the black spacers...

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Is there a certain build date which depicted black kick panels over white ones ?? My early-built 71 Sebring Plus had blacks. Not sure if they were original. On the other hand, we've all seen white interiors with white kick panels.. Thanks.. Nice pic's.. Great work..

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Might be a B Body/E Body thing...I know my 71 Charger R/T had white kick panels, but both white interior 71's I'm restoring now have black

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Here is Alan's radio, which is a somewhat rare high powered AM with cassette lead. I wish I had taken some "before" pics. The radio looked as rough as the car , believe it or not.

Greg

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Ask and you shall receive....although it doesn't show the worst of it

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....this is where all the action is going to happen.....oh yea baby

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Unless you are 2ft tall, there's not much action that will take place in that area.

Buy a B-Body: Use the back seat

Buy an E-Body: Rent a room.

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Man I'll bet that car would look good with some black Billboards (I know, it was not ordered that way). But with the black wing, vinyl top, and Shaker bubble it would sure tie in well.

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looking very good

how much did new glass run?

seems like a commonly overlooked restoration item.

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Ok....So I lied ......

It may not be the LAST update but we're getting pretty darn close.....

Had a friend come over on Sunday and do the vinyl top and glass for me....A job better left to an expert

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Anyone wanting to buy the car.....For an extra $400 I'll add billboards

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looks like a for sale ad

i thought that was not allowed

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Wouldn't the rubber on NOS wiper blades be completely shot?

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I hope you update more often just to bug John.

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Car looks awesome Alan!

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Scott, Make those billboards "white".

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oh god , please let it be done ...

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looks nice.. but why is it called "barrel" cuda?

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Ilike seeing progress on anyones car, especially when they start out as a rusty terd like that one was...now its beautiful got to give props for that! If I had half of his ambition and time to work on my own stuff everything would be done! Like it or not alan is doing a great job...and just because it was rusted and repaired it doesnt make it any less of a car! Not everyone has the luck to buy a pristine piece nor are all rar and valuable cars in pristine condition. So what if he fixed it with all the right and expensive parts and wants to share...maybe its an ego boost but so is all the people that wallow in their own misery and are just nasty lil cretins on this board! They feel better about themselves when they put somone else down, as they dont have the skill ability or money to build a car that nice...so if you dont like it dont rear the post, its obvious what it is and noone is forcing you to look, read, or comment!

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Why do you even bother? Go to garage and skip this thread.

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Thats the cuda your doint!!! Wasnt that on cars in barns .com a few years ago. I know I have seen pictures on that car on the net somewhere. Very cool. Was the engine and trans, basically complete??

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Thats the cuda your doint!!! Wasnt that on cars in barns .com a few years ago. I know I have seen pictures on that car on the net somewhere. Very cool. Was the engine and trans, basically complete??

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Just asking, but how much $$$$ has it taken to get it to this point and what do you expect to get out of it when it's sold?

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Now why would he do that when the roof is original to the car
It’s a rare piece

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Ya without that roof... the "original car" percentage would have been out of the "whole numbers"

Still it looks good... and he got it back together in short order.

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Montclaire....

Im guessing you havent followed this thread on his 71 Challenger Vert he's restoring if you think the Barrel Cuda is getting negative remarks, that thing is horrible with them! And he's done such a remarkable job on having the whole body restored.

I think people are just jealous, he's a mopar restorer that is doing a great thing for the mopar community---restoring trashed mopars, isnt hiding a thing and is 100% honest about everything he does and all of his intentions and yet, he still gets bashed---such a shame!

BTW Allan, if i had the money you'd be doing my 70 R/T right now....id love to be able to tell people i had Allan restore it for me!

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This stuff is why I get on here in the first place. The work he's doing/ having done is remarkable and the pictures are very usefull.
Thanks alot for them Alan.

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Why sell it after all that work? Why not keep it and enjoy it ?

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I don't know John, seems like an awful lot of people may know about this car by other means other than Moparts. Does that qualify it as famous yet?

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What else can you say? Great story, fantastic restoration, a cool history and it will have an interesting future on the circuit I'm sure!

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