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HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives)
Posted By: Jeremiah
HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 07/29/06 12:58 AM
Post 'em if ya got em!
Let's build another awesome thread and make sure it gets saved this time. I used to enjoy thumbing through that post!
Thank you,
Jeremiah
Posted By: BEEQUIK
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 07/29/06 01:07 AM
I have some really cool pictures from 1968 & 1969 from Lebanon Valley dragway-Shirley Muldowney when she was young and several other funny cars and my mom racing her 68 RR and her 53 Henry J C-gasser,But they are all on slides.As soon as I can get them onto a disc I will post them.Sorry for the long speech and no pics,coming soon! Chris.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 08/01/06 04:30 AM
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 08/01/06 03:28 PM
Chris: I have the equiptment to scan slides - actually anything up to 2.25 x 2.25. I do it for no charge and burn it to a disc. I then send the disc and slides back to you - all I ask is that I can keep a copy.
Let me know if I can help
Stewart - my email is in my profile or PM me.
Posted By: Jeremiah
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 08/01/06 03:32 PM
Stewart! Can you help us out w/ some pics of the "wire car"?
out the younger generation
Thanks,
Jeremiah
Posted By: Jeremiah
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 08/01/06 03:38 PM
I dig the 1st gen chargers...here are several pics. Please pm the photographer or car name, etc. if you have it and I'll attach w/ credit to ya!
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Newsclipping....
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Dig that mono-bar...
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Wheels up action!
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These boys seem to be having transmission problems.
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It's too bad we can't get guys like Roger to participate in these threads...
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Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 08/01/06 03:54 PM
This IS my favorite of the early chargers funny cars.
Posted By: RonTheAnnouncer
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These boys seem to be having transmission problems.
And THAT my friends, is why neutral drops were outlawed!
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Don't know much about this car..
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Posted By: RonTheAnnouncer
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Coolest car, ever!
Posted By: Jeremiah
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IIRC these guys ran pretty hard....
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A classic line up....
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For some reason I can't get enough of this one...
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Now that's a burnout!
Posted By: Jeremiah
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This car was featured in Superstock mag in '68 I think....have a copy somewhere.
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Posted By: HemiDart68
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 08/01/06 06:17 PM
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These boys seem to be having transmission problems.
And THAT my friends, is why neutral drops were outlawed!
It looks like the starting line after Jack Werst did a neutral start which was banned by NHRA after one episode
That is a neat pic, I believe that was Ron Mancini's car.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 08/01/06 06:24 PM
Posted By: B_Body_Bob
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 08/01/06 06:32 PM
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Let's build another awesome thread and make sure it gets saved this time. I used to enjoy thumbing through that post!
I saved a bunch of the pics from last set (no text, sorry) before the thread was lost - click this for a random pic
http://www.lightningjar.com/moparpics/old_race_cars.jpg
Press F5 to refresh the random pic with another
or click here to browse them old-school
http://www.lightningjar.com/images/moparpics/old_race_cars
Posted By: sixpakdodge
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 08/01/06 06:39 PM
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These boys seem to be having transmission problems.
And THAT my friends, is why neutral drops were outlawed!
It looks like the starting line after Jack Werst did a neutral start which was banned by NHRA after one episode
That is a neat pic, I believe that was Ron Mancini's car.
Are you serious? I have that car now if it is!
Posted By: HemiDart68
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 08/01/06 06:55 PM
Thats what i was told, Maybe some of the guys on this site can verify that, or ill ask ron next time i see him.
Posted By: Jeremiah
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 08/01/06 07:31 PM
Ladies and Gentlemen,
We bring you, from Stewart's acrchives, the construction of the "wire car":
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Posted By: FM370RR
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those pics by jeremiah are way bitchin
thanks for sharing.
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Posted By: CH3NO2
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 08/01/06 11:47 PM
Nice to see some of my pic's from my web site!
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 08/02/06 05:59 AM
That is Ray Alley - now of NHRA fame. He ran quite a few pretty successful cars - mainly SoCal tracks.
Posted By: HemiDart68
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 08/02/06 04:42 PM
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These boys seem to be having transmission problems.
And THAT my friends, is why neutral drops were outlawed!
It looks like the starting line after Jack Werst did a neutral start which was banned by NHRA after one episode
That is a neat pic, I believe that was Ron Mancini's car.
Are you serious? I have that car now if it is!
Spoke to Ron Mancini This morning. That was definatly his car, he owned it at the time, and he was driving. It was not Jack Werst.
Posted By: sixpakdodge
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 08/02/06 05:27 PM
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Spoke to Ron Mancini This morning. That was definatly his car, he owned it at the time, and he was driving. It was not Jack Werst.
Is it possible that you could get me any pictures or have him call me? I'm really trying to find out this car's past.
Posted By: HemiDart68
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 08/02/06 05:52 PM
Send me a PM with your phone number, and Ill pass it along to him.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 08/04/06 03:14 AM
any one have any other pictures of this car --- It is real special to me and I would like to have more pictures and know where it has gone.
Thanks
Stewart
Posted By: mopacltd
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 08/06/06 06:13 PM
Stewart, I have been doing research on the left coast, but it doesn't appear that your Colt made it out here. If you make a trip to the Phoenix area I'll let you take a trip down the 1320 in my Colt if that would help bring back some of the good times.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 08/06/06 07:38 PM
Do you have a photo of your Colt - that might be as good as it gets for me.
Posted By: ASA1711
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 08/08/06 12:02 AM
Anyone have a picture
of Ron Mancini's '68 440 Dart called the Bee Leaver?
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 08/12/06 04:09 AM
Not sure where I got this, in case it has already been posted. Have wonderred about the car and especially about what the heck happened to it in this pic. Almost appears to me like the frame broke on the car as the rear wheels look torqued to one side, or rear-end broke loose then broke frame(?). Weird pic in any case...
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 08/12/06 04:42 AM
...the Beeleaver 440 Dart pictured from '68...I knew I had it here somewhere. Not sure where pic was taken. Anyone know what track that is?
Posted By: 68hemiss
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 08/13/06 02:53 PM
The Mancini "Bee-lever" Dart photo is from Englishtown, 1968.
Mark J
Posted By: B Dartman
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 08/13/06 04:07 PM
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Not sure where I got this, in case it has already been posted. Have wonderred about the car and especially about what the heck happened to it in this pic. Almost appears to me like the frame broke on the car as the rear wheels look torqued to one side, or rear-end broke loose then broke frame(?). Weird pic in any case...
I posted that one a while back, but can't recall which thread...something old race...anyway, credit goes to Drag Racing Pictorial #4 a compilation of Car Craft, Hot Rod, Rod & Custom Mags in 1971. Unfortunately that is the only picture in the entire magazine that does not have an explanatory caption with it! Almost looks like the rear suspension on one side broke away and the rear end is rolling out from under the body...
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Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 08/13/06 04:32 PM
Here's a couple more from the same source...
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Another...
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Some Mo pictures...
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And again...
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Anudder...
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Last one...
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 08/13/06 08:16 PM
That Fred Hurst Gasser was a stunning looking car. I have a few shots of that one and the paint job on that thing was really sharp. One of the best I've seen as far as appearance from back in the day.
Posted By: MoparDave431
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 08/15/06 01:42 AM
The car that really got me going was the Paul Rossi Challenger. I remember putting superstock magazine in my textbook and reading it in class. Teacher use to take it from me and read it at his desk til class was over. Wow I musta been around 12? Never could find much info on it, the current owners but not much real info of when Rossi had it. Seem like every pic had it on its bumper. Man I loved that car! These pics really take me back.
Thanks, David
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 08/15/06 04:41 AM
If you're talking about the 6 Pack car I have seen but 3 pics of that one and in 2 of them the car was dragging the bumper. One of the pics was in a recent mag article I'm sure some of you guys have seen. The other I think I got off an older post here and the car's on a trailer. What time frame did he run that car?
Posted By: B Dartman
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 08/16/06 02:34 AM
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The car that really got me going was the Paul Rossi Challenger. I remember putting superstock magazine in my textbook and reading it in class. Teacher use to take it from me and read it at his desk til class was over. Wow I musta been around 12? Never could find much info on it, the current owners but not much real info of when Rossi had it. Seem like every pic had it on its bumper. Man I loved that car! These pics really take me back.
MoparDave...I'm with you on that one!! I would stare at that pict for what seemed like hours...too cool!! I had that pict under a piece of plexiglass on my desk at home and would gawk at it while trying to do homework
Posted By: MoparDave431
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 08/17/06 03:24 AM
Yeah thats it! Would love to know more about Rossi and that awesome Six Pack car. I had one of the Weiand SuperStock intakes at one time but life & kids happen before I could do anything with it and sold it. Had a 70 Challenger in highschool too. Thank you Mr Rossi.Dave
Posted By: B_Body_Bob
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 08/17/06 12:15 PM
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Yeah thats it! Would love to know more about Rossi and that awesome Six Pack car.
It's for sale
http://www.moparperformance.se/eng/
Posted By: B Dartman
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 08/18/06 10:34 PM
For Sale!! Sure hope it is bought (by a board member)and preserved for historic purposes / nostalgia racing.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 08/20/06 03:40 AM
I have a question for any of you guys who may have done any stock class racing back in the '60s. Around what period did the first 'cheater' type cams start being used? I know the NHRA gave up on checking duration some time ago just because it's hard to check accurately on these type cams, but when looking back at some of the 60s Mopar stockers I have seen I have always wonderred at what point they were closest to actual being just a blueprinted stock motor with headers as opposed to the radical cammed 'stocker' motors we see today. Would give a better idea of when the stockers were actually close to being stock. I know a guy who ran an F/SA 340 car back in 68-69 and he was running mid 12s but don't know if that was while still running the actual stock camshaft or not. Just a curiousity of mine.
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Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 08/20/06 02:44 PM
I had noticed when looking at some of the old national records and just a listing of ETs by Mopar stockers at certain events from back in the day, that it looks like the performance of the cars really jumped around 68 or so.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 08/21/06 01:00 AM
I read an artical in Mopar Collectors Guide in regards to a Dave Wren Drag Racing a SS/EA 1971 Hemicuda Convertible. He won every division six super stock championship from 1967 to 1972. Does anyone out there have any information on this person or car. Pictures anything at all would greatly be appreciated. Thanks, Terry. Cell#813-610-5494, Eastern Standard Time.
Posted By: Hemi_Jack
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 08/21/06 03:45 AM
I have some Dave Wren pics I can post. I don't have any of the 71 vert.
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Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 08/21/06 03:48 AM
Super Stock Cudas
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70 again
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Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 08/21/06 03:53 AM
Landy and Wren
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Another 70
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Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 08/23/06 01:28 PM
Anyone have stories or photos of BIG RED and Dave Lewis ??
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Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 08/24/06 03:15 AM
I've always had an interest in the earlier S/S cars as well as stockers when they were still running 7" tires. Was it 67 or 68 when the 7" tire rule went out the window? I think Jere Stahl's 66 Hemi Belvedere A/stock car was one of the most dominant cars running at that time. He won about everything there was to win in '66, and again, on 7" tires going 11.50s before the year was up with the street Hemi. To me, the stockers and early S/S cars were pretty impressive considering the tire constraints and what they had to work with. A whole lot of learning about what worked and what didn't work certainly took place from say 61-66 as much or moreso than maybe other periods.
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Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 08/27/06 08:45 PM
Check this site out...
"The Love Machine" GTX
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 08/27/06 11:31 PM
I first saw that 'Love Machine' GTX site some years back. Just wish he'd put some more info on the car such as what it ran in the class it was in, the motor etc etc etc. Nice car though. BTW, anyone know how they classed cars back then exactly? I see the 440 GTXs in old pics marked C/S in some then D/S in others(within same year). Far as I know a 440 GTX is a 440 GTX and with only listed at one ship weight(minimum weight). Usual class for those cars was always D/stock so what would one have had to do to get same car into C/stock? Have never understood how that works and aside from maybe adding or removing weight to a car I wouldn't know how you could legally jump back and forth from one class to another. Work same way in stock classes back then as it does now?
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Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 08/28/06 02:20 AM
Check out the following videos...in particular, Altered Fire, Dry Hops, and Old Cars in Action!!
Santa Pod Raceway Videos
Posted By: sixpakdodge
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 08/28/06 08:02 PM
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Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 08/28/06 10:23 PM
More cool old picts....
South Glen Falls Dragway
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 08/29/06 12:22 AM
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Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 08/30/06 06:05 PM
Hi guys:
Looking for some pictures from 70-71 NHRA division III. I have a 1970 Hemi-Challenger that raced there those years. It was owned and raced by Wayne Warner during late 70 and 71 at Indianapolis Raceway Park and other smaller tracks around that area. It was Red with a Black fiberglass T/A hood on it. It said "Warner Brothers" and "Vissings Dodge" on the side at the time.
In 1973, it was owned and raced by a guy named Gerald Gary! The car was still red but with no sponsors listed on the car.
Both of these guys were from the Jeffersonville Indiana area!
I know the car raced some Sox & Martin and Glidden sponsored cars.
I really would love to have pictures or something about the history of this car from that time!!
Patrick
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 08/30/06 09:23 PM
How were the Dodge and Plymouth (RO/WO) cars classed when they first came out? I had always heard the older A990 cars would walk all over the Ro Wo cars and the guys who were running the RO Wos didn't even like them. Don't know how true all that is, but just looking at the info on the Ro Wo setup it would seem to me there might be some truth to that. They kinda look like they were tossed together from reg production line cars as opposed to being a specialized package car.
Posted By: The Nutcracker
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 08/30/06 09:31 PM
Posted By: ram87
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 08/30/06 09:46 PM
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Hi guys:
Looking for some pictures from 70-71 NHRA division III. I have a 1970 Hemi-Challenger that raced there those years. It was owned and raced by Wayne Warner during late 70 and 71 at Indianapolis Raceway Park and other smaller tracks around that area. It was Red with a Black fiberglass T/A hood on it. It said "Warner Brothers" and "Vissings Dodge" on the side at the time.
In 1973, it was owned and raced by a guy named Gerald Gary! The car was still red but with no sponsors listed on the car.
Both of these guys were from the Jeffersonville Indiana area!
I know the car raced some Sox & Martin and Glidden sponsored cars.
I really would love to have pictures or something about the history of this car from that time!!
Patrick
Patrick,
I've been trying to locate Wayne Warner or his brother Steve for the last couple of years. If you have any luck finding either of them or pictures of the car let me know. Wayne was an Air Force Academy graduate so maybe they have his address. I just thought of that, and he was also retired from the AF.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 08/30/06 10:24 PM
The RO/WO cars were classed SS/B or BA - right in the same class as the A990 cars --- yep, did not make us happy at all --
Posted By: Anonymous
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Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 08/30/06 11:42 PM
Finally in SS/D --- but remember that the 68 Hemi cars were SS/B when they came out
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 08/31/06 01:41 AM
In any case the RO/WOs seem to me to have been a somewhat hurredly put together deal. As of '68, what were the older A990 cars classed as? SS/B or C? Wonder why the older cars supposedly ran so much better than a 'newer' model.
Posted By: JERICOGTX
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 08/31/06 01:51 AM
The intake manifold, and carter carbs were the downfall of the RO/WO cars. The cross ram worked much better on the low end vs the stock street hemi intake. The just could not get the cars to leave the starting line, that is when banzaii starts started, and ended after 727's were being scattered all over the starting lines across the country. Racers were not happy with Chrysler for giving them basically a stripped down street car, they wanted a package deal like the A990 cars, thus the LO23-BO29 cars were built.
Posted By: 1OFNONE
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 08/31/06 10:22 PM
The '67 package cars were a result of Chrysler not making the '66 Race Hemi package cars that were slated to have all the same race mods as the '65 A990 cars had. Such as aluminium heads, crossram, aluminium frontends and such. I would love to make a '66 Coronet Sedan A-990. How bitchen would that be.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 08/31/06 10:30 PM
Or an A990 wagon
Posted By: dannysbee
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 08/31/06 11:59 PM
I bought most of Lee's hemi and six pack parts in about 1987. He had closed his hot rod shop in Lubbock and was moving to Arizona I believe. That's been a while back.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 09/01/06 12:15 PM
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I bought most of Lee's hemi and six pack parts in about 1987. He had closed his hot rod shop in Lubbock and was moving to Arizona I believe. That's been a while back.
Well this is a start! May I contact you to talk about Lee?
Patrick
Posted By: dannysbee
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 09/01/06 12:30 PM
Sorry I have had no contact with Lee since his moving.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 09/01/06 05:21 PM
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Sorry I have had no contact with Lee since his moving.
That I understand. I thought you could tell me about the man or a little of history if it was familiar to you.
Patrick
Posted By: QuickSilver
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 09/01/06 09:50 PM
Here's one I saved from the previous thread. 65 Hemi Coronets ROCK!!!
Posted By: CH3NO2
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Posted By: 77DragracerR/T
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 09/05/06 01:35 AM
"The Snake"
Posted By: 77DragracerR/T
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 09/05/06 01:37 AM
"Beatty&Woods Cuda'"
Posted By: B Dartman
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 09/06/06 01:58 AM
No explanation needed......a hemi at work!
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 09/06/06 02:23 AM
Man, those fuel alterreds were the absolutely most insane machines back in the day and I'd think about the most dangerous machines to drive back then. Nothin but an engine, small frame and the guy. Had to drive 2000' to go 1320'. Pedal to da metal and just hang on and steer like a madman, heheh.
Posted By: colt340
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 09/08/06 12:12 AM
This one is for you Stewart!
Indy 06
Posted By: ASA1711
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 09/08/06 12:13 AM
Does anyone have pictures of the Sox & Martin parade of cars at the U.S. Nationals at Indy last week?
Posted By: colt340
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 09/08/06 12:34 AM
another!
Posted By: colt340
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 09/08/06 12:38 AM
one more.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 09/08/06 12:41 AM
1
Posted By: colt340
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 09/08/06 12:44 AM
Swamp rat.
I hope I have this fixed!
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 09/08/06 12:44 AM
2
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Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 09/08/06 12:45 AM
3
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Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 09/08/06 12:48 AM
4
Posted By: colt340
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 09/08/06 01:20 AM
Big Daddy.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 09/19/06 05:22 AM
I have a question something I've wonderred for awhile now. What period or at what point would the NHRA stock class cars, in this case Mopars, but would apply to any I suppose, were they run moct close to actually being no more than truely 'blueprinted' stock motors with headers and gears. Just always wonderred when I look back at the old drag cars I see pics of, chiefly stockers. Since I was just a little kid in the 60s I certainly have no personal recollections of seeing or hearing those cars run. Of course now, it is quite apparent to the ears when a 'stocker' is not running a stock cam but one of the high duration 'cheater' cams. I look back at some of the old literature and articles I have collected over the years at some of the Mopars and what they did to the drag cars and then what they ran and I always wonder, ok was that truely a blurprinted stock motor or ? Just for example and to make my point, 1967 E/SA record, 340 Barracuda Coletti Bros. ET 12.79 mph 109.80 Personally I dont see a stocker 340 Barracuda running that kind of ET with the stock cam and just a blueprint job to the motor, headers and usually hefty gears back then, but I don't know. Could it be said those cars were a whole lot closer to true stock than these stockers are today? I do know for a fact they also checked duration closely back then also which they dont do nowadays, hence these rumpety cams that are blatantly nowhere near stock. In another case, someone built a 68 383 Roadrunner to run that same class;E/SA back then, they simply blueprinted the motor, tweaked carb, ignition, headers, 4.56 gears, Hemi convertor and it got close to that 340 Barracuda just barely missing breaking into 12s. Supposedly the factory cam also. Were the guys running the stock class cars circa mid/late 60s getting the relatively decent ETs like that from them with that simplistic approach? Seems like somewhat of a 'lost art' to me with all the high $ off the shel stuff nowadays, no one approaches it that way anymnore and in some ways to me thats a shame. No challenge just boltin mega $ parts on it, and thats why I like the old stock and superstock cars so much.
Posted By: Anonymous
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Posted By: mr_340
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 09/22/06 03:05 AM
I have a NHRA blueprint spec from the late 1970s for a 1969 340 that lists the cam duration at 336°/348°. The Chrysler cams had a lot of duration, not sure of other brands. I think the old White Performance Book had a section on these specs, if anyone still has one of those. Mine fell apart but I put them into individual folders like they were originally.
I also have an old Cam Dynamics "7000 series" stocker cam for a 340 that met the duration specs. Still in the original box. Maybe I should stick it on Ebag and label it NOS!
Posted By: MrMopar95
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 09/25/06 07:13 PM
1964 Plymouth Fury 3425 lbs with driver ALL Motor
451 ci Bowman Performance 9.68 @ 138 mph
Posted By: 68hemiss
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 09/25/06 11:14 PM
It's been kind of quiet lately - thought I would try to stir things up! Here is a photo of a Canadian SS/DA Challenger.
Mark J
Posted By: B_Body_Bob
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 09/25/06 11:20 PM
Transformation - 1
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Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 09/25/06 11:23 PM
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Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 09/25/06 11:23 PM
3
(hat tip to Wade Owens)
Posted By: 68hemiss
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 09/25/06 11:27 PM
Here is another - Shay Nicols Dart Sport probably around 73-4. Note the Direct Connection sign in the background - "Stronger & Faster - the Factory Way"!
Mark J
Posted By: 68hemiss
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 09/25/06 11:34 PM
Does anyone know anything about this car? This was owned by the "late" Richie "sixpack" Sansonia
Thanks,
Mark J
Posted By: B_Body_Bob
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 09/25/06 11:40 PM
Sorry, duplicate
Posted By: CH3NO2
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) *DELETED* - 09/26/06 12:34 AM
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Posted By: Chassisman
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 09/29/06 03:03 AM
Heres one too...one of the first "Funny"cars on the west coast...Hammons-Williams,andHammons "HAIRY CANARY"..66 Valiant...Typical driver Richard Hammons...wheels up and smokin the rears...One night at Fremont this car went backwards through the lights @ 166 MPH on FIRE!
Posted By: Chassisman
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 09/29/06 03:04 AM
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 09/30/06 07:15 PM
I suppose what I'd like to see some more pics/info of would be the mid-lower class stockers and superstockers, chiefly 383 and 440 cars, well known or not so well known, doesn't matter.
Posted By: B_Body_Bob
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 09/30/06 09:56 PM
Posted By: B Dartman
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 10/01/06 12:59 AM
Not that old, but certainly one that can be or will be considered historic for reasons good and bad...
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 10/01/06 01:49 AM
Here are some pics I found of a D/stock 273 Dart built by Ted Spehar. Along with some text regarding the car. Was apprently called 'The [Edited by Moparts - Keep it clean]' at that time, and looks rather unrestored to my eyes...
The [Edited by Moparts - Keep it clean]: Thanks to Ralph Costa and Alan Hvizdos
Ralph Costa was a CO-owner and driver of the car. His job on the car was to take weight out of it -- eliminating unnecessary brackets and using aluminum brackets here and there, cutting off bolts and installing aluminum bolts here and there. He did a fine job at that. Tech inspection never knew that they were using aluminum motor mounts and that the fenders were held on with aluminum bolts.
Ralph also had 24 old time slips from when the car raced. None of them were dated but they all had D/S on them. They were from Milan Dragway, Detroit Dragway and National Trail Raceway. Ralph lent then to me and I made color copies of them. He also gave me a few of the originals from each of the tracks.
At Milan it ran between 12.94 @ 104.04 and 13.20. One slip had 13.09 @ 105 on it. Ted Spehar made notes on some of the slips like valve lash, timing, type of plugs used and there gap, what lane they ran in and if they won or lost. The 12.94 slip had "7000 through the eyes" on it. Looks like Ralph really wound out that little 273.
The Detroit Dragway slips range from 12.92 @ 102 to 13.41 @ 102. Notes on the slips indicate that they were shifting between 6700 and 7000 RPM's. They were also playing with timing and tire pressures. Of the 24 slips, the 12.92 was it's best ET.
At National Trail Raceway, they ran between 13.06 @ 104.89 and 13.28 @ 105.26. There is one slip with 13.11 @ 104.16 it has the "WIN" box checked of and a large "T" on it. According to Ralph, they won that day.
From what I can see on all the time slips, it looks as though the car ran in the high 12's and low 13's at around 104 MPH.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 10/01/06 01:51 AM
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Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 10/01/06 01:55 AM
4---Looks like from Moparts editing, you'll have to guess the name of the car unless you already know it. Funny, it's not actually a dirty word, but I suppose it could be construed as one with the way the government is these days. That's a hint in itself...
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 10/01/06 12:44 PM
Barry and Mike from Hamtramck Registry have opened a new photo section. The majority of these photos are never seen before photos of the Mopar Missile. You all are cordially invited to stop in and take a look. Missile Historical photos are my passion, if you have any, let me know. I will scan them to a disc and return the disc and photo to you, FREE. All I require is that I be allowed to put them on the photo section and share them with the rest of the Mopar Fanatics.
http://www.hamtramck-historical.com/vintageRacing/missile/Missile.shtmlStewart
Posted By: Troublemaker427
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 10/02/06 12:00 PM
The AWB and standard wheelbase orange and white Pee Wee Wallace cars are two seperate cars. I've seen a photo of the two cars setting side by side. If I find it, I'll post it. I always thought they were the same car also. The lettering is slightly different also.
Posted By: ram87
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 10/02/06 04:02 PM
I bought a 1968 Plymouth Sports Satellite when I returned from Viet Nam in 1968. Lucky because it was a 383 CI 330 HP 4 speed car and with the weight to HP factor fell in F/Stock (10.53) factor. The Roadrunners with the same engine fell in E/Stock and had to spot me .1 running on National records. The rule book at the time said the cam had to have stock lift, duration and overlap. The duration was not changed on the blueprint cams. The acceleration ramps were steeper but the lift duration and overlap remained the same. The blueprinted engines in 1968 could be bored .030. Prior to '68 they could be bored .060. Were the engines stock. Hardly, but then we didn't know (at least I didn't) about acid porting heads and intakes like is done now. The car I had was light weight (3474.9 lbs.) and had to have at least 7 gallons of gas when weighed to make legal weight. I ran a best of 12.60 on Carmen Rotunda's 12.73 national record. A 12.79 for an E/Stock Automatic car was probably about average and I don't think was close to the record in '69. I can look out the window of my office right now and see Phil Nichols. He was the owner/driver/mechanic on Shay Nichols' (ex-wife) car.
Posted By: CH3NO2
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Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 10/03/06 02:28 AM
I have always liked even the 'plain-jane' Mopar stockers circa say 66-69, 383, 440 and smallblock versions, and the street Hemi A/stockers of same time frame. Always thought Jere Stahl probably had one of the most dominant cars of the era with his 66 Hemi Belve, but don't ever see much about that one. Won nearly every race it ever ran. Stahl's SS/B Belve circa 67-68 was also a real stormer for awhile. From ETs I've seen on the SS/B car, it was running 2-3 tenths faster than anyone else for a good portion of that year. I'll post a couple pics of the cars I'm speaking of if I have any.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 10/03/06 02:33 AM
Stahl SS/B-I've read this car was running 10.30s right off the trailer(in '68) when virtually everyone else was in the 10.60s. Then Stahl inexplicably quit, til 70 coming back for PS. Don't know how true that is.
Posted By: CH3NO2
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Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 10/03/06 02:43 AM
2-Stahl SS/B
Posted By: B_Body_Bob
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 10/06/06 02:37 PM
How about Doug Kahl's C/SA 62?
Posted By: B_Body_Bob
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 10/06/06 02:43 PM
Another angle
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 10/07/06 12:01 AM
Good choice Bob. Pre 70 car and it's got a 383. I've read that was a winning car for many years. Ted Spehar built that one also I see. I found the Stahl SS/B pics, but for some reason cannot find even one of the dominant '66 Street Hemi Belve.
Posted By: B_Body_Bob
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 10/07/06 03:26 PM
Quote:
I found the Stahl SS/B pics, but for some reason cannot find even one of the dominant '66 Street Hemi Belve.
Attached is a pic after it was sold to Bill McCloskey, per Bill Stiles.
Posted By: B_Body_Bob
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 10/07/06 03:27 PM
And here is a more recent pic at a show
Posted By: B_Body_Bob
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 10/07/06 03:29 PM
Another
Posted By: B_Body_Bob
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 10/07/06 03:32 PM
Jere & Bill many years later
Posted By: CH3NO2
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 10/07/06 05:10 PM
I like those pic's!!!
Posted By: LSP
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 10/07/06 06:58 PM
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Can any of you show anything other than PROSTOCK??? There was life before the 70's. History, way before the 70's, you young pup's.
How about enough of the belly aching? - if you don't like what you see then move on, or create your own thread - HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES ("60s ONLY") Jeez, if I had to post about everything I didn't like or knew was BS I'd have to quit my job for the time to do so. Stewart, Fred, and others take a lot of their time to post these cool pictures so how about not dumping on it if you don't approve?
Posted By: CH3NO2
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 10/07/06 08:46 PM
I'm not. The other pic's are cool and I don't disapprove. I just wanted to see something of the early years. Sorry if I hurt your feelings.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 10/08/06 02:25 AM
I have a question I've been wondering about chiefly the A/stock cars in the 66-67 period. Somehwhere along the line(I think '67) I know the rules distinguishing SS cars and the 'stockers' changed, but I notice they only called the A/stock cars 'Top Stock' while the rest down to E/S as of '67 were called 'stock'. Were the A/stock cars at that time period still built by same 'stock' rules as the rest of the stock classes or were the A cars allowed more Super Stock parameters, such as any cam or intake etc. I notice in reading some denoting Stahl's 66 Belve A/stock car as an SS car. Just wondering because from what I have read they made it sound as though the A/stock cars were a class unto themselves at that time with different build rules than the rest of the stock class cars. Fred you ran stock class cars back then how did that work with the A cars?
Posted By: Anonymous
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Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 10/10/06 03:06 AM
Just got these in an email from a buddy today. Have no idea if the car is 'historic' or not or who it even is/was. Anybody recognize?
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 10/10/06 03:21 AM
another
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 10/10/06 03:22 AM
last one
Posted By: ram87
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 10/10/06 03:22 PM
Quote:
I like those pic's!!!
Steve - Did you ever meet Robert Lindquist (MR Tomato). Pretty big old boy. Car would probably picked up a couple of 10ths with a normal size driver. I went to high school with Robert and he had several cars before the AWB car.
Posted By: B_Body_Bob
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 10/10/06 03:38 PM
I just ran across this, not sure if I posted it already, sorry if a duplicate
Posted By: CH3NO2
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 10/10/06 05:11 PM
I have never met him but he was a friend of my dads. After his son got killed, he quit racing, that's what I heard. Him and Gene Snow used to go at it all the time at the race track.
Posted By: sleepyhead416
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 10/10/06 11:54 PM
How about BOB GEORGES SS/AA DART
Posted By: sleepyhead416
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 10/10/06 11:57 PM
I'll reply with 1 more!!!!!
Posted By: B Dartman
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 10/13/06 02:28 AM
Speaking of 1967...
Posted By: B Dartman
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 10/13/06 02:31 AM
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 10/13/06 03:41 AM
Were S & M, or any other Mopar teams, dynoing their motors back then, or at what point? Just curious what the HP differences were in the span between say '68 and '73. The induction systems sure changed, then more radical camshafts, the newer design heads et al. Just curious to know what kind of true HP the factory SS/A and SS/B cars were making relative to what levels it had progressed to by the time pro stock was in full swing.
Posted By: B Dartman
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 10/13/06 10:46 PM
Here's a Chrysler Corp 426 Hemi Dyno sheet from the engineers in 1965!
Dyno Sheet
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 10/14/06 01:59 AM
I've seen that Bill, pretty cool. I guess pretty much all the way through that period say mid 60s-early 70s, Chrysler was doing all the engine dynoing and just relaying to the drag teams what to use? I look at the way the Hemis were in terms of build in the eary-mid 70s, especially after seeing many of Stuart and Fred's pics and the difference blows my mind. Like night and day. Seems like there must have been a pretty momentous increase in HP just in that short time span. BTW, we seem to be getting an inch deep and a mile wide on the post view. Wonder what happened? Posts have gone real wide for some reason or is it just my comp??
Posted By: B Dartman
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 10/14/06 02:11 AM
NHRA Pict of the Week...Big Jim Dunn
NHRA Pict of the Week
Posted By: BloFish
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 10/16/06 04:25 PM
Posted By: B_Body_Bob
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 10/17/06 04:25 PM
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 10/17/06 09:01 PM
Great pics. Were the 70 model 6 pack cars in the same SS class as the street Hemis? I thought the 70 street Hemi Cudas were also SS/D at that time.
Posted By: Hemi_Jack
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 10/18/06 02:48 AM
Dave Wren raced the car with hemi power.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 10/18/06 03:03 AM
That's kind of what I thought HemiJack. I've got numerous pics of old SS/D cars circa 70-71 and they are all Street Hemi E-bodies.
Posted By: B Dartman
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 10/21/06 07:44 PM
See attachment...Limelight Charger Funny Car
Posted By: B Dartman
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 10/21/06 10:47 PM
Posted By: B Dartman
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 10/21/06 10:50 PM
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 10/26/06 02:56 AM
BeeLeaver 440 SS/EA Dart
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 10/26/06 02:58 AM
Clyde Sutton,(whoever that is/was)
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 10/26/06 03:00 AM
Mancini/Gratiot Dart
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 10/26/06 03:03 AM
Carroll Fink SS/EA
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 10/26/06 03:06 AM
Fink SS/EA again
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 10/26/06 03:08 AM
Rod Shop SS/DA. Not sure who was driving this one
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 10/26/06 03:10 AM
Al Corda. Looks to be '70s(?)
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 10/26/06 03:26 AM
Can anyone tell me what SS class the 383 Roadrunners were in as of '68? SS/G maybe? I know at that point, the 440 GTXs ran in D/S or D/SA, the SS versions ran SS/F, and the 383 Roadrunners ran in E/S or E/SA, but was wondering what class they were in as of '68. As of '67 there were only 5 SS classes, A-E, but obviously that changed somewhere in 67-68. Not sure how far down the alphabet the list grew to by '68.
Posted By: mopacltd
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 10/26/06 05:04 PM
There was a SS/JA '69 383 Road Runner last weekend at Speedworld
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 10/26/06 06:21 PM
Was that what it was classed circa '69, or more recently? SS/JA seems rather far down the line for being the same body style as the SS/F GTX, and only a relatively small amount diff in HP and/or weight. Even in the few short years from say '68-'71, I see cars that were reclassed quite a few times, so that's why I was wondering if anyone knows what the '68 Roadrunners(383) were classed when they were new.
Posted By: B_Body_Bob
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 10/26/06 06:52 PM
FWIW I just found an e-mail that says the 383 roadrunners where classed in H and it wasn't a competitive combo
Posted By: RaceCarRegistry
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 10/26/06 09:36 PM
I owned the Limelight FC Body until a few weeks ago - its going to the east coast -- Reed in Neb.
Posted By: B Dartman
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 10/26/06 10:51 PM
Quote:
I owned the Limelight FC Body until a few weeks ago - its going to the east coast -- Reed in Neb.
Cool...great to know some of these cars are still looming out there! Hopefully in some state of restoration...
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 10/27/06 02:13 AM
SS/H then OK, thanks Bob. Wonder why it wasn't competitive(?) The 383 stockers ran pretty well. What the other brands field against it in SS/H I wonder...
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 10/27/06 01:32 PM
Think I may have gotten this one from the old thread that was deleted.
Posted By: B_Body_Bob
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 10/27/06 03:00 PM
Quote:
Think I may have gotten this one from the old thread that was deleted.
I think I got pretty much all of the pics from the lost thread
http://lightningjar.com/images/moparpics/old_race_cars/
Posted By: SULLY
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 10/27/06 03:17 PM
Cool picture I got a while ago.
Circa 1970. I currently own the
Camaro in the pic.
Sully......
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 10/27/06 07:02 PM
Whoa, ya I think you got them all too, heheh. I'm gonna scroll through that page Bob to see if I may have missed any.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 10/28/06 12:34 AM
This is why magazine writers are on the bottom of my favorite list. I "borrowed" this photo from one of the "MOPAR" magazines. DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT THE DEVICE IN THE PHOTO IS ?? THE WRITER SURELY DOES NOT.
Posted By: Anonymous
Post deleted by Defbob - 10/28/06 12:41 AM
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 10/28/06 12:53 AM
Of course it is -- but your answer does not count, you are knowledgable - not some "newcollectorsuckup" magazine writer. Now part two of that question --- where could you get that mechanical shutoff --- hint - a combination of two well know speed merchants
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 10/28/06 02:39 AM
Now I know what that is also. Have seen those in quite a number of engine pics on old drag cars but never really knew exactly what it was. Did they work well and how was it controlled by the driver?
Posted By: ram87
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 10/30/06 04:30 PM
I think SS/F was the lowest Super Stock class in 1968 so the Roadrunners would have run SS/F or SS/FA. As for the Stock classes, they ran E/S or E/SA in 1968 and F/S or F/SA in 1969. I had a '68 Sports Satellite 330 HP 383" 4 speed car that ran F/S in 1968 and G/S in 1969. Rated at 5 HP less than the RR and about 50 advertised lbs. more than the RR therefore one class lower. Were the 383 cars competitive. Mine was for awhile. Ran 12.60 on Carmen Rotunda's 12.73 national record. He eventually set the record at 12.34 and I was no longer competitive. I don't think the RR's were ever competitive in the class they had to run.
Posted By: deaks
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 10/30/06 10:40 PM
I know this is not a Mopar but i'm looking for pics of a Chevelle my cousin raced in B/MP around the early 70's. The car was a 427 4 spd, his name is Vernon Foyt and he lives in Minnesota, at that time, he lived in Coon Rapids.
I would really appreciate anything on this or any links that might help.
He lost the car in a fire, so doesn't have any pics
Mike
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 10/30/06 11:39 PM
12.34 Ah, ya I'm sure it did get a little hard to keep up with that. That doesn't sound too much slower than the equivalent SS 383 cars at that time. They must have just been better at cheatin than you ram87.
Posted By: YbNoRmAL
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 11/01/06 07:23 PM
B Body Bob, thanks for the pictures man.
Posted By: ram87
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 11/01/06 08:31 PM
Quote:
12.34 Ah, ya I'm sure it did get a little hard to keep up with that. That doesn't sound too much slower than the equivalent SS 383 cars at that time. They must have just been better at cheatin than you ram87.
I don't think the 383 Super Stockers fared very well. In '68 they ran the same SS class as the 440 GTX's. Of the stockers, mine was one of the better running 383's but it fit in the class better than most cars. The weight/hp class break for my car was 10.50 and my car factored at 10.53. The 383 RR's class break was at 10.00 and they factored somewhere around 10.22. Remember, the stocker ran on a maximum 10" wide slick and the SS cars could run on a 10" tire. That was a major difference.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 11/01/06 09:03 PM
ram87, so it wasn't so much that they didn't run well generally, but were I assume at the lower end of the class weight/factor wise. 12.60s for a stocker RR sounds pretty good to me from back then, but I assume the 440 GTXs were going a bit better than that in stock class. I know the 440 SS/F GTXs ran in same class as the Z28s but all the old ET and MPH #s I see that the 440 Mopars always quicker and faster than the SB Camaros, like 11.70s at 115-119 for the GTXS compared to 12.0s and 11.90s at 112-114 for the Chebbies. Dave Stricklers Z28 was dominant but it didn't run the #s the GTXs in same class ran.
Posted By: B_Body_Bob
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 11/01/06 09:06 PM
I need to get all the pics off this new thread too. I've got a program just to do stuff like that
Posted By: ram87
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 11/01/06 09:29 PM
Eric, Yeah it was a lot different in '68. No such thing as adding or removing weight to make a class. My Sports Satellite's advertised shipping weight was 3475 pounds and the 383 in my car was rated at 330 HP. Same engine as the RR's rated at 335 HP but supposedly my exhaust system was more restrictive hence the 5 HP difference. Of course we all ran headers so that negated the 5 HP difference real quick. My weight/hp factor put me in the top of F/S in '68 and the RR's weight/HP put them in the middle of E/S. Again this is where we were and you couldn't be lighter than advertised shipping weight. The SS 383's were not competitive because they were factored the same and because SS/F was the lowest class that's where they ran. Unfortunate because the 440 GTX's weight factor put them in the same class. In '68 and '69 the RR's had to spot me .1 sec. and we were running identical cars almost.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 11/02/06 02:32 AM
Bad deal for RR racers, especially considering that was the debut year of those cars. BTW, nice truck. Got any old pics of the F/S Satellite?
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 11/02/06 02:50 AM
Here's a few pics of a 68 GTX I found on 'net. Classed as D/stock. I think it may have belonged to Tim Eckstrand who later teamed up with Bob Lambeck on some SS cars.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 11/02/06 02:52 AM
Eckstrand2
Posted By: ram87
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 11/02/06 02:19 PM
Eric, My car was the same color as Eckstrand's but had a different hood, no GTX stripes, a white interior with green trim and a little less lettering. I lived in Mississippi at the time and had the car painted bronze just before I move to Indiana in '69. I painted the car black in '70 just before I sold it.
Posted By: cdp
1970 & 1971 Hemi Cudas - 11/05/06 09:21 PM
Cool Pic.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: 1970 & 1971 Hemi Cudas - 11/05/06 10:56 PM
Not downloading cdp. Says 'jpg. not found on this server'
Posted By: cdp
Re: 1970 Hemi Cudas - 11/10/06 11:55 AM
Hemi Cuda, before and after.
Posted By: cdp
Re: 1970 Hemi Cudas - 11/10/06 12:01 PM
after
Posted By: B_Body_Bob
Re: 1970 Hemi Cudas - 11/10/06 03:01 PM
"turned off the ignition key"
I went to HS with a guy that did that trying to save gas going down a hill, he locked the wheel, hit a bridge abutment, broke both his legs, was lucky to have survived.
Posted By: Hemi_Jack
Re: 1970 Hemi Cudas - 11/10/06 06:05 PM
The pictures of the Hahn 70 Cudas really brings back memories. One correction on your post, The first picture is the second car after the first one was wrecked. I saw both of these cars run at Bonanza Raceway in Walla Walla, WA. In fact Bob Norwood gave me a ride home from the track in his Dodge hauler with the second Cuda he built on the back of the truck. I asked him what happened to the first Cuda and he said he rolled it. The first Cuda which was wrecked had a much neater 70's theme paint job on it. The later car was red and white with a black vinyl top.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: 1970 Hemi Cudas - 11/10/06 06:36 PM
Dude was lucky he wasn't killed, just looking at the damage to the car/roof caved in. How does one 'accidentally' turn the key off in any car let alone a drag car at 25 let alone 125? Sheeze.
Posted By: Alaskan_TA
Re: 1970 Hemi Cudas - 11/11/06 04:02 AM
There are now more vintage race car photo albums available to view with some great shots of some of the people behind the scenes. There are two new albums, the first one is from Dave and Suzie Koffel, the second one is from John Wehrly.
Thanks to Dave, Suzie & John for providing photos from their collections and to Stewart and Mike for getting them scanned and uploaded for all of us to see! Here is the link;
http://www.hamtramck-historical.com/vintageRacing/people.shtmlEnjoy!
Barry
Posted By: ASA1711
Re: 1970 Hemi Cudas - 11/11/06 01:37 PM
You have to wonder, what ever happened to that
Rod Shop Colt wagon?
Was that not one of the most unique race cars ever?
The Colt Wagon body is still alive in a guys garage on the east coast - not for sale !! -- Reed in Neb.
Posted By: BloFish
Re: 1970 Hemi Cudas - 11/11/06 07:14 PM
Anyone have pic's of the '67 Camaro funnycar named "Out of Sight" running a 392 Hemi?
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: 1970 Hemi Cudas - 11/11/06 09:35 PM
Quote:
The Colt Wagon body is still alive in a guys garage on the east coast - not for sale !! -- Reed in Neb.
Wasn't that the car with the one-off set of cyl heads on it? Weslake heads I believe. Wonder if the original motor is still around with those heads on it. Probably worth a fortune.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: 1970 Hemi Cudas - 11/11/06 11:01 PM
some pics of the Wagon here - along with other photos - also on the Wehrly side of these photos
http://www.hamtramck-historical.com/vintageRacing/people/Koffel.shtml
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: 1970 Hemi Cudas - 11/12/06 02:05 AM
What class(es) did the Colt Wagon run in? What c.i. was that motor in the pic of the Colt Wagon on the Hamtramck site? Just as an aside comment. The more I learn about and see what Mopar was doing back in the day and realizing that they were the smallest of the big 3, GM, Ford then Chrysler, it really shows just how good a central group of guys those were in the drag/NASCAR R&D side of things, Hoover, etal. GM in a purely monetary way could have buried Chrysler, even back then, being alot larger a company overall. For Mopar to have become so legendary performance wise back in the day was quite an accomplishment. And to think that as of '61-'62 no one involved in drag racing really wanted to run anything Mopar. I've heard numerous people say that over the years including Ronnie Sox. Beyond solid bunch of guys, engineers, engine builders, chassis guys et al.
Posted By: 1OFNONE
Re: 1970 Hemi Cudas - 11/12/06 03:13 PM
Here are a couple random photos;
Posted By: 1OFNONE
Re: 1970 Hemi Cudas - 11/12/06 03:14 PM
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Re: 1970 Hemi Cudas - 11/12/06 03:14 PM
3
Posted By: 1OFNONE
Re: 1970 Hemi Cudas - 11/12/06 03:15 PM
4
Posted By: 1OFNONE
Re: 1970 Hemi Cudas - 11/12/06 03:16 PM
Coolest photo of Tritak and Morgan wagon.
Posted By: B_Body_Bob
Re: 1970 Hemi Cudas - 11/15/06 01:19 PM
Found in my inbox today
Posted By: CH3NO2
Re: 1970 Hemi Cudas - 11/18/06 02:53 AM
Ken Bradlee
Posted By: 1OFNONE
Re: 1970 Hemi Cudas - 11/18/06 03:26 PM
Great photo of the '67 WO. Keep them coming.
Posted By: CH3NO2
Re: 1970 Hemi Cudas - 11/18/06 03:55 PM
My dad was the engine builder for this guy in 66,67,68. Someone here has a pic of his dart too that my dad did his engine.
Posted By: 1OFNONE
Re: 1970 Hemi Cudas - 11/18/06 07:53 PM
Posted By: 1OFNONE
Re: 1970 Hemi Cudas - 11/18/06 07:54 PM
Another misc
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: 1970 Hemi Cudas - 11/18/06 08:01 PM
Look at the front tire
Posted By: B Dartman
Re: 1970 Hemi Cudas - 11/19/06 01:06 AM
R/T Coronet with a straight axle front end...
Posted By: B Dartman
Re: 1970 Hemi Cudas - 11/19/06 01:07 AM
And again...
Posted By: B Dartman
Re: 1970 Hemi Cudas - 11/19/06 01:13 AM
Few oldies but goodies on this link...
Redcelery site
Posted By: B Dartman
Re: 1970 Hemi Cudas - 11/19/06 01:24 AM
Sox & Martin
Posted By: Dave Watt
1968 SS/AA 'Cuda - 11/19/06 04:54 PM
This photo was taken at Muncie Dragway (Indiana) back around 1985. The car was owned by Harold Stout but driven by Danny Crawley.
Posted By: B Dartman
Re: 1968 SS/AA 'Cuda - 11/19/06 11:58 PM
Some more cool picts...follow the link...
This way to the picts!
Posted By: 1OFNONE
Re: 1968 SS/AA 'Cuda - 11/20/06 12:57 AM
Wow great link. Thanks.
Posted By: Sinitro
Re: 1968 SS/AA 'Cuda - 11/20/06 02:29 AM
Outstanding photos..
Thanks for posting these!!
Posted By: ASA1711
Re: 1968 SS/AA 'Cuda - 11/21/06 01:41 AM
Bill,
Fantastic album!
Can anyone identify the '64 Plymouth racing the Sox & Martin Road Runner in the last photo?
Posted By: B_Body_Bob
Re: 1968 SS/AA 'Cuda - 11/21/06 06:01 PM
Another nice one found in my inbox - attached
Posted By: B Dartman
Re: 1968 SS/AA 'Cuda - 11/22/06 03:05 AM
Posted By: B Dartman
Re: 1968 SS/AA 'Cuda - 11/24/06 01:46 AM
Phantom Charger
Posted By: B Dartman
Re: 1968 SS/AA 'Cuda - 11/24/06 01:47 AM
Somewhere in 1967...
Posted By: B Dartman
Re: 1968 SS/AA 'Cuda - 11/24/06 01:47 AM
Lets now jump to 1968...
Posted By: B Dartman
Re: 1968 SS/AA 'Cuda - 11/24/06 01:48 AM
Where were you in 1969? I was all of 7 years old...
Posted By: B Dartman
Re: 1968 SS/AA 'Cuda - 11/24/06 01:49 AM
1970 a look back...
Posted By: B Dartman
Re: 1968 SS/AA 'Cuda - 11/24/06 02:00 AM
Some interesting picts to be found on the link below....
Blast from the past!
Posted By: Fabman
Re: 1968 SS/AA 'Cuda - 11/24/06 02:17 AM
Very Sharp Pics !!
keep them comin !!!
Posted By: B Dartman
Re: 1968 SS/AA 'Cuda - 11/27/06 02:27 AM
Another cool site with some vintage photo's....
Old Drag Photo's
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: 1968 SS/AA 'Cuda - 11/28/06 05:12 AM
Man you sure know how to find 'em Bill. Great pics.
Posted By: B Dartman
Re: 1968 SS/AA 'Cuda - 11/29/06 02:07 AM
Posted By: moprod
Re: 1968 SS/AA 'Cuda - 11/29/06 02:20 AM
Thanks for posting those. A bunch of familiar names and cars I remember from years ago in KY drag racing. Thanks for the memories.
Posted By: B Dartman
Re: 1968 SS/AA 'Cuda - 11/29/06 02:24 AM
New picts of restored S/FX.....clearly gives a glimpse back in time!
George Rays Dragstrip
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: 1968 SS/AA 'Cuda - 11/29/06 03:12 AM
Ya, the Coronet stocker from the 'Old Drags' site had some wide slicks on the back too. Only tracks I've ever known of in KY are either Clay City or Thorn Hill and I've run at both. Actually liked the old Thorn Hill with the gravel shutdown area. Made goin fast interesting, lol.
Posted By: carcrazyguy
Re: 1968 SS/AA 'Cuda - 12/02/06 02:46 AM
How about an old A-body.
Posted By: LSP
Devil Wind - 12/02/06 03:47 PM
Quote:
How about an old A-body.
Where did you find that picture?
Posted By: YbNoRmAL
Re: 1970 Hemi Cudas - 12/09/06 01:11 PM
OneofNone, you posted a picture of a 63 Dodge wagon, Thanks! My Dad took me to the dragstrip the first time in 64 or 65 to watch a guy named Tom Crutchfield race and that wagon was the car. Dad was a mechanic at Button Motors in Kokomo, Indiana. It was cool to see it again. I was 12 at the time, but ever since that day I haved loved drag racing,63,64,65 cars and wagons.
Posted By: 1OFNONE
Re: 1970 Hemi Cudas - 12/09/06 03:46 PM
I will dig through my photo files to check if I have any others for you.
Posted By: ASA1711
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 12/10/06 03:08 PM
What ever happened to the Dodge trucks all the Chrysler teams had in the late sixties and early seventies? Have you guys seen any of these at your local tracks?
They where very cool and also a part of Chrysler racing history.
Stewart and Hemi Fred, any thoughts?
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 12/10/06 03:47 PM
One of those old trucks is on my Christmas dream list. To me, the ultimate Chrysler collection would be a restored old 72 Dodge D500 truck, with the Oleynik box body and the restored Mopar Missile Duster inside. ah dream on
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 12/10/06 09:05 PM
Quote:
One of those old trucks is on my Christmas dream list. To me, the ultimate Chrysler collection would be a restored old 72 Dodge D500 truck, with the Oleynik box body and the restored Mopar Missile Duster inside. ah dream on
Stewart, how many Mopar Missle Dusters were there? - I've seen pictures of the 71 or 72, and the 73 or 74, so 2 all together?
Posted By: B_Body_Bob
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 12/10/06 09:42 PM
Quote:
What ever happened to the Dodge trucks all the Chrysler teams had in the late sixties and early seventies?
Like this one?
Posted By: B_Body_Bob
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 12/10/06 09:44 PM
Or this one?
Posted By: B_Body_Bob
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 12/10/06 09:45 PM
One more of the Stiles hauler
Posted By: B_Body_Bob
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 12/10/06 09:48 PM
I think this one is Dave Strickler, a little different style
Posted By: B_Body_Bob
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 12/10/06 09:54 PM
A little more fun from my inbox today
Posted By: B_Body_Bob
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 12/10/06 09:54 PM
Same car, a little later
Posted By: ASA1711
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 12/11/06 12:19 AM
I wonder how many of the open body version are still around today.
Who built them for Chrysler?
How many where there?
Where they given, leased or sold to the teams?
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 12/11/06 01:27 AM
cia - there were only 3 real Missile cars, the original 70 Challenger that was then changed into a 71 - the 72 Cuda - and the 72 Duster that was also changed into a 73 --- now to make it more confusing, there was also the "yellow" test car, the "wire" car and a D5 Colt.
Stewart
Posted By: B_Body_Bob
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 12/11/06 12:44 PM
Quote:
I wonder how many of the open body version are still around today.
Who built them for Chrysler?
How many where there?
Where they given, leased or sold to the teams?
I hope this helps
From Bill Stiles:
Quote:
They built them special in 67 four or five i think, Sox, Landy ,Grother, Shirley Muldowney had mine, i bought mine in 70, maybe Reed can add something, there were some built every year after that, Sox got a couple a year !!!
and
Quote:
In 65& 66 they were crew cab dually's with like a morrison body on every one of the factory teams had one, they were supplied by Chrysler and we used a chevy pu to haul the 66 car!!!
The same mail thread hints that the racer's name was on a tag riveted into the door frame. No pics or solid info though.
Posted By: B_Body_Bob
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 12/11/06 01:40 PM
Attached is a big pic of Bill Stiles guiding a Dodge off a trailer behind that Chevy truck he mentioned above
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 12/11/06 02:04 PM
Like this please Santa
Posted By: Troublemaker427
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 12/11/06 06:33 PM
This photo is from SS&DI when Bill was road testing cars for them. The trailer in the photo was Dave Strickler's. Check out the Hurst wheels on the trailer!
Wonder were you got the Stiles and Strickler rig photos posted above?? LOL
Posted By: B_Body_Bob
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 12/11/06 07:02 PM
Yeah, Jody you know where I got them
Posted By: B Dartman
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 12/12/06 12:09 AM
Somewhat similar subject, but TV Tommy Ivo had some neat transporters with clear sides so you could see the car inside the trailer....
Posted By: B Dartman
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 12/12/06 12:14 AM
One more...different style
Posted By: mopacltd
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 12/12/06 02:33 AM
Hey, Stewart. Did you see the '72 Colt for sale on ebay?
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 12/12/06 02:37 AM
NO I did not see the Colt on E-bag --- link please
Posted By: B_Body_Bob
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 12/12/06 12:24 PM
The auction must have ended, I can't find it. Seller seemed to be Eddie Smith (WV Hemi) because the hemi b-cuda was for sale also.
Posted By: Troublemaker427
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 12/12/06 02:21 PM
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 12/12/06 04:13 PM
I must have missed something Jody, I don't see a pic or an attachment on your post anywhere.(?)
Posted By: mopacltd
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 12/12/06 04:26 PM
That is the correct link to the Colt. It does show that the seller ended the sale early, but also showed that it still had not met the reserve.
Posted By: mopacltd
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 12/12/06 04:48 PM
I see now that the Colt has been relisted. Item # 180063283803. All the pictures are there for viewing.
Posted By: B_Body_Bob
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 12/12/06 10:15 PM
Posted By: mopacltd
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 12/12/06 11:48 PM
I have been thinking about selling my '74 Colt. Tracks here in Arizona have just taken the fun out of drag racin'
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 12/13/06 12:09 AM
What were the quickest ETs those Colts were running before they were no longer in PS competition? Were the Comp versions faster than the PS versions back then?
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 12/13/06 01:06 AM
usually the "Comp" versions were faster than the P/S versions - and the MatchRace versions were quicker yet
Posted By: ASA1711
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 12/21/06 12:37 AM
Any Dover Drag Strip Pictures or stories out there?
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 12/21/06 12:58 AM
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 12/21/06 12:58 AM
Posted By: Anonymous
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Posted By: wheelsup64
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 12/29/06 03:03 AM
Searching for any photos or information about Westborn Chrysler Plymouth sponsored 63 & 64 Plymouth driven and prepared by Paul Rossi from Michigan. We went to the second round in S/S at the 65 winter Nats. Later drove a factory backed Comet.
Thanks,
Ken
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 12/29/06 05:42 PM
Awesome footage Mike. Like to know where they found that. Be nice if one could find VHS or DVDs of drag racing from that period with the same quality. All I've ever been able to find is the lower res/no sound variety. Too bad the original sound/commentary wasn't apparently available with that.
Posted By: B Dartman
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 12/30/06 03:49 PM
ESPN had a show several years ago that looked back on all forms of racing. I think it was hosted by the late Larry Nuber. He was suited up and hosted the show from a library...can't recall the name of the series. They had one show that was a full half hour of Dick Landy. It was awesome and incredible footage. The Challenger that day was doing huge wheel stands when he'd dump the clutch. It was wild. The footage on the above link was at Ontario Motor Speedway and aired on ESPN as well...wonder too if that stuff is obtainable...when it aired on ESPN, I recall it having audio.
Posted By: JERICOGTX
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 12/30/06 03:52 PM
Show was called Glory days with Dave Despain. Those were old Road and Track video's. A friend used to have a copy of that episode, but can not find it anymore...
Posted By: B Dartman
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 12/30/06 04:18 PM
Yup...that was it! Glory Days
Posted By: MikeCompTA 57
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 01/04/07 09:09 PM
Any one have info on my old 68 Hemi Roadrunner? The original owner was Bobby Rhoads from Richmond,Indiana. He raced in the late 1970's with a best time of
10.13@131mph. He raced SS/DA in IHRA and won alot of bracket races at Muncie Dragway,Indiana. Tri-State in Hamilton,Ohio. Mt. Parkway in Clay City Kentucky and Edgewater in Cincinnati,Ohio. He campained a 1970 Black Hemi Cuda after he sold the Roadrunner. There was a sister car 1968 R/T "Rags to Riches" owned by Mike McClure.
I sold it to Rick Allison of "A&A" Transmisions in April of 1985.
Owner breakdown:
Bobby Rhoads
Dale McClure
Richard Carlin
Mike Alford
Rick Allison
now?
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 01/05/07 04:17 AM
Just watched that vid again. Short of the awful music it's an awesome vid. Especially liked the in car footage of Landy hammering away on the clutch pedal of his PS car. There is a part 2 listed on there now. Still great footage, with a couple repeats, but this time with music that fits.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 01/05/07 05:25 AM
Only a little off topic, but I'm wondering if any of you either have already or have ever thought about building a replica Mopar SS car(?)..and I mean one with the car setup the same as it would have been for the year etc. motor, gear, et al. I've been thinking about doing my 68 383 Sat in that fashion, especially since I'm starting to see the retro thing becoming popular and this thread got me thinking about it again. First were the Gassers and Fuelers, now I'm beginning to see a whole lot of retro SS cars being built. Love the Hemi cars but be kinda neat to see a few 383 and 440 B-bodies done in that same fashion since there were and still are so many more of them. I've already run down the list and even the exact solid cam, intake, etc are still readily available for the 383s and 440s that were chiefly run circa 68-69. I saw the article on the S & M 68 440 SS/F GTX from the first thread and see they ran 4.56 gears in that car. Wonder what gears the 383 SS Roadrunners usually went with at that time. Thought maybe someone might know.
Posted By: 6bblFLASH
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 01/05/07 11:43 PM
Funny you bring the subject up. I was dreaming
today of doing the "A-Gas" thing to my `Cuda. It already has the engine set-back 9in.s. I would go with a straight front axle and that elusive and expensive HEMI. I have a "retro" paint sceme already picked out.
Anyone got a HEMI free to a good home?
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 01/05/07 11:54 PM
Sounds awesome. A/GS 487 c.i. Hemi, Moon gas tank up front(think that'll fly?) B & M Hydrostick, etc etc
all with to-the-wood launch RPM then hang on eh. Who cares if it's 2006, I say do it. Minus the Moon tank and Hydro stick of course heh. I've got some great video of blown gassers racing circa '65-'66. One of the sharpest Gasser Cudas I've seen is the Fred Hurst 70-71 Cuda. Candy red. Very sharp car back in the day, and I do believe it was a Gasser and not a Funny.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 01/06/07 04:05 AM
Hey Guys - Still looking for any & all info regarding this car. I am in the process of restoring the car & could use some pictures....
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 01/06/07 04:07 AM
Heres another - let me know what you got..
Thank You
Shawn
Posted By: mikeg
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 01/06/07 01:08 PM
Fred Hurst Cuda at 1969 Winter Nationals
mike galewski
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Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 01/06/07 01:59 PM
Posted By: B Dartman
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 01/06/07 09:37 PM
Here's some pro-stock picts
Irv Beringhaus Pro Stock
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Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 01/06/07 09:42 PM
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Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 01/06/07 09:52 PM
John Hagen...Pro Stock
John Hagen Pro Stock
Posted By: B G Racing
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 01/08/07 03:17 PM
We been doing that for years,use some modern drive trans,but retain that old school SSlook!
Posted By: mloboda
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 01/08/07 11:07 PM
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What ever happened to the Dodge trucks all the Chrysler teams had in the late sixties and early seventies? Have you guys seen any of these at your local tracks?
They where very cool and also a part of Chrysler racing history.
This is Paul Rossi's old carhauler.
1976 Dodge D800 medium duty. Timperman Bros. Box.
413, 5 speed, 2 speed rear, air brakes.
According to Dave Koffel Sr., who was head of Chrysler drag race program at the time, Mopar built 7 or 8 of these and handed them out to their factory backed super stock racers at the time: Rossi, Leal, Hagen, etc.
I bought it 2 years ago from a Louisiana racer who had bought it from Rossi.
I contacted Paul to learn more about the truck and he told me an interesting story: When asked why the VIN shows the truck as a D600 - 1.5 ton, yet all the equipment on the truck is from a D800 - 2.5 ton, he had this explanation. The D800 with air brakes would require a CDL. The factory backed teams often had many different truck drivers and not all of them had a CDL. To circumvent the log book problem, Chrysler rebadged the trucks as the lighter GVW D600 and thus put them in the non-CDL catagory ( sort of). While of questionable motive, the ruse worked and none of the teams had trouble from the law.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 01/08/07 11:37 PM
Thing looks near brand new.
Posted By: mloboda
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 01/08/07 11:52 PM
Truthfully, it looks better in the pic, then in person. I am almost finished collecting NOS parts to do a body off restoration. Unfortunately, Dodge stopped making the medium duty trucks in 1977, so NOS parts are VERY hard to find. I was lucky enough to find NOS doors, fenders, hood in GA last year.
Here's a pic of the inside
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 01/12/07 02:02 AM
The attached pic was posted earlier on by someone. That's at least 1 of the worst blown TFs I've seen and wonder how the driver ever escaped injury. Were they using any type of protection at all with the automatics back then such as a plate on the floor or a blanket of some sort? I've seen a few old pics of blown gassers circa 69-70 that appear to have trans blankets hanging down. I've seen a few TFs with chunks of the sides out or bellhousings split and case with top removed but that pic really takes the cake. Wonder someone didn't lose a leg on that one. Looks like most blew downward but surely there had to be some penetration of the floorboard with a blowup like that.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 01/12/07 02:50 AM
That is actually a SuperStock car. In the days before high stall speed converters, the hot ticket was to rev the motor to your chosen RPM, with the trans in neutral - then (you guessed it) pull her into low. Worked good most of the times, but sometimes real excitement happened. I think the car pictured is Mancini. But Dick Oldfield did that at the Nationals and when it blew, it almost lifted the whole car off the ground. Then it would take a boatload of oil-dri before the track was anywhere ready again. Shortly after that neutral starts were banned.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 01/12/07 03:04 AM
Stewart, didn't the ClutchFlite essentially wreak the same sort of blow-up potential on the TFs as a neutral drop?
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 01/12/07 12:01 PM
I don't think the ClutchFlite was as bad as neutral starts --- I do know that the Missile Challenger worked long and hard to get a CF to work, but they were not reliable. A weakness in the cases would cause the case to crack.
Posted By: B G Racing
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 01/12/07 06:03 PM
Ran clutchflites in both my altered wheel base plymouth and B/G injected dragster.They were Fairbanks units and worked pretty slick.The pump drive spider that was engaged by the clutch fingers was the main problem.I set one up with a belt driven power steering pump which worked quite well.
Posted By: ddartdude
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 01/12/07 07:24 PM
Ted Spehar's 1966 D/Dart known as "The Politican" as it was raced back in 1966.
Posted By: sixpakdodge
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 01/12/07 08:45 PM
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The attached pic was posted earlier on by someone. That's at least 1 of the worst blown TFs I've seen and wonder how the driver ever escaped injury. Were they using any type of protection at all with the automatics back then such as a plate on the floor or a blanket of some sort? I've seen a few old pics of blown gassers circa 69-70 that appear to have trans blankets hanging down. I've seen a few TFs with chunks of the sides out or bellhousings split and case with top removed but that pic really takes the cake. Wonder someone didn't lose a leg on that one. Looks like most blew downward but surely there had to be some penetration of the floorboard with a blowup like that.
I now have the car that is seen in that picture. Believe it or not, NOTHING went through the floor. It does look like someone took a hammer to it and beat the death out of it though. I had often wondered why the floor was so beat like that. Then I slowly figured the car's history out and traced it back to Mancini. Then I received that pic!
Posted By: 340Cuda
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 01/13/07 04:00 PM
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Ran clutchflites in both my altered wheel base plymouth and B/G injected dragster.They were Fairbanks units and worked pretty slick.The pump drive spider that was engaged by the clutch fingers was the main problem.I set one up with a belt driven power steering pump which worked quite well.
I remember a what I think was a 65 Dodge B/FX car. I think it was a 366 ci Hemi with a clutchflite. I think it was called the RoadRunner. It had a belt driven pump. I think it was orignally factory backed. I saw it at Ted DeTar's shop in Wichita. Don't know what happened to it after that. Lot's of "I thinks" because it was in 1966!
Bill
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Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 01/14/07 02:37 AM
I've seen pics of that car all over the place including in a few recent Larry Davis books. Sharp car. And until looking at Steve's site I hadn't known who it was.
Posted By: 340Cuda
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 01/14/07 01:46 PM
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Here's a pic off my website of it
http://kansasbadman.com/_wsn/page2.html
Steve,
Thanks, maybe my memory is not totally shot!
Does anyone remember who ran the car before Steve's folks had it?
Bill
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Posted By: SSFATim
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 01/14/07 03:31 PM
Here's the old 1971 Sox&Martin racecar hauler.1971 D700,oleynik body,5 speed 2 speed axle.Currently has a V8 cat diesel engine.Cab has alot of rust but its important enough to fix.I drove it back to florida about a 1000 mi in nov and ran/drove great.......Tim
Posted By: SSFATim
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 01/14/07 03:40 PM
Here's a front shot.Roof of the cab is very ruff after someone cobbed this wind deflector on it.It was the 1st thing i removed.....Tim
Posted By: B Dartman
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 01/14/07 04:24 PM
Tim,
Do you plan to restore the truck as it appeared when Sox & Martin owned it? Check out this car carrier that showed up at a show in Wichita KS...pretty cool! If you did restore it as a Sox & Martin transporter, you'd sure gather the crowds at car shows and the races! Maybe Hemi Fred could let you borrow his Duster?!?!?
Posted By: SSFATim
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 01/14/07 06:35 PM
Bill.I have emailed fred about the hauler.Also left a message with buddy martin.I would like to paint it back origional but with buddy's blessing.Dont know if it would be proper or not.I have found where the origional blue and red paint was so shouldn't be hard to find the paint lines.also has a label in the door jam from oleynik body saying 24' body sox&martin.Still has what looks like the origional bench/cabinets in the box.Will be alot of work......Tim
Posted By: B Dartman
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 01/14/07 06:42 PM
That'll be too cool!
Best of luck with it!
Posted By: Jeremiah
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 01/14/07 08:03 PM
I just wanted to drop in and thank everyone that has chimed in on this thread. 10k+ hits and no end in sight!
Thanks folks!
~Jeremiah
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Posted By: 340Cuda
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 01/15/07 03:44 PM
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Fred Cutler of the Ramchargers drove it, Jim Thorton sold it to my dad along with 2 other Ramcharger cars.
Thanks Steve, I thought the first name was Fred. Did not know about the Ramchargers connection.
Bill
Posted By: 68hemiss
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 01/17/07 05:19 AM
Here is a photo of the Mancini's hauler.
Mark J
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Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 01/17/07 12:51 PM
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Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 01/17/07 01:46 PM
zoom-o
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 01/24/07 02:25 AM
Here's one I recently received. I recognize Don Grotheer's car but none of the others.
Posted By: B Dartman
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 01/25/07 03:38 AM
Posted By: mikeg
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 01/26/07 01:14 AM
Spartacus at 1994 Mopar Nationals
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Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 01/26/07 01:15 AM
another from 1994 Mopar Nats
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 01/26/07 02:58 AM
The Don Carlton car is the infamous "wire" car.
Posted By: wldtm
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 02/06/07 04:10 AM
any pics of ray rixman dodge super stock hemi dart?
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3 Anyone have any leads on this car would be great. Dad drove it from 70 to 75 or 76. The car went south from what I have been told.
4 440 cuda dad drove for the guy on the sid eof the car. car was crushed back in the 80's
5 dad's cousin Al The Flying Dutchman VanderWoude
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Posted By: Madness
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 02/13/07 08:34 PM
Argon43, The pic you have with Don Grother--- the black 62 Dodge wagon in front of him is 'The Supply Wagon' out of Amarillo, Texas. It was owned by Gary Doose & wrenched on by his brother, Dennis. Their sponsor was 1st Supply, a parts house & machine shop in Amarillo.
Gary was the Division IV Stock Champion that year. The wagon was a 343 horse Clay Smith 383, with two AFB's in-line & J heads. The J heads were almost impossible to get, so fortunately Chrysler superceeded the 67 magnum 915 heads (I think). It was one of the first to get one of the new J convertors from Chrysler. Carroll Caudle (Modified World Champion in his 55 Chevy) built the motor. It was capable of low 12's in legal trim.
You can see a couple more pics of it on my website.
http://hometown.aol.com/lyndeldan
Posted By: Dr-Dave2
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 02/14/07 05:11 PM
the original "Dodge Boys"
A young Bill Jenkins working on the Strickler & Jenkins 64 Hemi
Anybody else notice he never got "Grumpy" until he switched from Dodge to chevys?
Posted By: Dr-Dave2
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 02/14/07 10:23 PM
Another View btw good to see the Grump is still at it
Posted By: Dr-Dave2
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 02/14/07 10:43 PM
His 65 Plymouth "Black Arrow" car
Posted By: Forwardlook
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 02/25/07 12:24 AM
Thanks everybody for sharing these great vintage pics! I'm especially grateful of seeing all those old haulers, they have been neglected too long!
I would be very interested in hearing any recollections of my 1970 Dodge D300 which might have been a hauler since new? There are many old NHRA stickers inside the storage area. If something interesting turns up I'd like to restore it the way it once was. Except for the 500 cid stroker that is soon replacing the 318, LOL.
Hans
Posted By: B Dartman
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 02/25/07 03:34 AM
Cool shot...
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 03/14/07 03:38 PM
MOTOWN MISSILE
Posted By: sixpakdodge
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Posted By: GTXKen
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 03/27/07 05:32 PM
Co-workers dads car from 1970..
Posted By: 68hemiss
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 03/28/07 01:22 AM
Ken,
Could you ask your co-workers Dad if he remembers these Hemi S/S Darts from the Chicago area? I have been trying to ID them for some time now.
Thanks,
Mark J
Posted By: 68hemiss
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 03/28/07 01:25 AM
Here is the second Dart that I am trying to ID.
Thanks,
Mark J
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 03/28/07 01:47 AM
[Edited by Moparts - Keep it clean] Mark, that car is real familiar --- not Griffith's is it ???
Stewart
Posted By: 68hemiss
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 03/28/07 02:40 AM
Stewart,
The one that appears yellowish - I think is really a pearl - not Griffith's - I have shown the photos to a bunch of the local guys - It seems familiar but no one can identify it. I have 4 photos 2 from Great Lakes and 2 from Byron - so I think it might be a local car??? The lace Dart I was told was purchased fron Blasevitch Dodge (crosstown rival to Grand-Spaulding) but I do not know who the owner was? Jimmy Evans maybe????
Thanks,
Mark J
Posted By: GTXKen
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 03/28/07 02:35 PM
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Ken,
Could you ask your co-workers Dad if he remembers these Hemi S/S Darts from the Chicago area? I have been trying to ID them for some time now.
Thanks,
Mark J
Will do.
Posted By: RaceCarRegistry
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 03/28/07 05:13 PM
Here's John Hagen's PS Arrow as it looks today -- Reed in Neb.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 03/28/07 06:07 PM
I am bored today - no pictures to scan - therefore here is a picture I posted before but some might not have seen it
Stewart
Posted By: b1headman
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 03/31/07 04:30 AM
Stewart, Pic's and slide made it to shop today, The wife and i thank you for all the hard work to transfer. Looks good Regards, Scott Koffel
Posted By: streetking
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 04/01/07 05:47 AM
I bought Reid Whisnants 70-72 Pro Stock Duster and any close up or detailed pictures of it near the end of the 72 season ( after Ladder Bars and cut wheel wells) would be very usefull in the restoration of the car... Thanks Also it was ran under the name Yankee Joe after Reid built the all new 73 Duster
Posted By: 68hemiss
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 04/01/07 09:16 PM
Here is the car when Oscar Roberts ran it under the Yankee Jo name.
Mark J
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 04/02/07 12:15 AM
Anybody in the know about how much HP the Hemi PS motors were putting out circa the 73-75 time frame? I've seen 800+ tossed around which is only slightly less than what the SS Hemi motors are making today.
Posted By: cheapstreetdustr
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 04/03/07 03:02 AM
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Here is the car when Oscar Roberts ran it under the Yankee Jo name.
Mark J
thats one of Ried Whisniat's old car.
Posted By: mloboda
Re: HISTORIC RACE CAR PICTURES (for the archives) - 04/03/07 03:47 AM
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What ever happened to the Dodge trucks all the Chrysler teams had in the late sixties and early seventies? Have you guys seen any of these at your local tracks?
They where very cool and also a part of Chrysler racing history.
Rod shop Hauler