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What are the four door Hemis worth?

Posted By: Frank Cannon

What are the four door Hemis worth? - 04/11/20 03:33 PM

Sitting here going stir crazy and looking through some old magazines. Are these cars worth more or less than their two door counterparts?

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Posted By: hemicar1971

Re: What are the four door Hemis worth? - 04/11/20 07:14 PM

1966 and 1967 are a different breed when it comes to Hemi Cars. They are the Rodney Dangerfield of Hemis, They Get No Respect. Personally I love the shoe boxes and the less options the better. If I did not have what I have now I would buy a 66 low option four speed Hemi or a 1968 Hemi Road Runner. Prices are right on the 66s and some 67s.Now does rarity over take the Hemis in the same year. Some thing like you posted is at the top of shoe boxes because of the four doors and the color but that does not always mean people are looking for an old mans family Sedan. I like it but lots would not put their cash out on it. Rarity some times rules the price likely the four door will bring a bigger dollar. But if you look at 1971 E Bodies a 1971 Hemi Cuda value is greater than a 1971 Hemi Challenger if all is the same. They are basically the same Vehicle except for the two inches and panels. It is a Hype thing and the 1971 Cuda took off and has been on top for a long long time.
Posted By: gtx6970

Re: What are the four door Hemis worth? - 04/11/20 09:53 PM

I like the 4 door cars for the novelty factor , but me personally would NOT pay more to own one ( I value them much less, same goes for the 2 door sedans as well )

But thats MY 2 cents
Posted By: topside

Re: What are the four door Hemis worth? - 04/11/20 10:45 PM

It comes down to whether one prefers style or rarity, right ? It can be argued either way.
I think the rarity of the 4-door Gen 2 Hemi cars is what has supported their value in years past, but they also play to a small audience.
I seem to recall around 130K for one some years back, about double what 2-doors were, comparing mint #s cars.
Helluva sleeper, if it had no Hemi badges.
I'd think if you took a poll, 2-doors would be much preferable to 4-doors.
But there's always That Guy...
Posted By: 19swinger70

Re: What are the four door Hemis worth? - 04/12/20 12:01 AM

What does a guy do with all of those extra doors? I guess you could weld the rear doors shut and pretend they were never there.
Posted By: hemicar1971

Re: What are the four door Hemis worth? - 04/12/20 12:32 AM

The brown four door from Canada use to have a big hood scoop on it. It was run hard by many an owner, except Rick. I liked it and wish I had of known a few times if was coming up for sale but it has a good home now. There were many 1966 two door Hemi cars built so numbers bring down price a little compared to the few four door made.
Posted By: Frank Cannon

Re: What are the four door Hemis worth? - 04/12/20 03:15 PM

Wow, there are four known now, I had only seen the red and white ones. Cool cars for sure.

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Posted By: not_a_charger

Re: What are the four door Hemis worth? - 04/12/20 03:16 PM

The gold one is gorgeous. I saw it at Mike's place a few years ago.
Posted By: hemicar1971

Re: What are the four door Hemis worth? - 04/12/20 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by not_a_charger
The gold one is gorgeous. I saw it at Mike's place a few years ago.


I guess the four door is Gold not Brown. It was around me on the street for years and years. I could tell you about one story in an underground parking garage but that is not fare to this car or Mike. The beauty of this car has been brought back to it, never really liked the scoop that was on it but the times were very different back in the 80s.
Posted By: 65pacecar

Re: What are the four door Hemis worth? - 04/12/20 04:50 PM

Any pics of the 4 Door Hemi Plymouth in Finland?
Posted By: 6bblgt

Re: What are the four door Hemis worth? - 04/12/20 06:45 PM

Mike's '66 4-door Dodge is paint code "Y" officially - "bronze metallic"
Posted By: Frank Cannon

Re: What are the four door Hemis worth? - 04/12/20 08:35 PM

Originally Posted by hemicar1971
Originally Posted by not_a_charger
The gold one is gorgeous. I saw it at Mike's place a few years ago.


I guess the four door is Gold not Brown. It was around me on the street for years and years. I could tell you about one story in an underground parking garage but that is not fare to this car or Mike. The beauty of this car has been brought back to it, never really liked the scoop that was on it but the times were very different back in the 80s.

Well, you have to tell the story now brother.
Seriously.

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Posted By: Alaskan_TA

Re: What are the four door Hemis worth? - 04/12/20 08:40 PM

I'd prefer one of the original 4-door Hemi cars over any Hemi 2-door myself, convertible or not.
Posted By: EWJ

Re: What are the four door Hemis worth? - 04/14/20 12:53 AM

Originally Posted by Frank Cannon
Wow, there are four known now, I had only seen the red and white ones.


There are 6 I know of:

1966 Dodge, red Hemi/auto (the Floyd Cline car, in the initial post on this thread)
1966 Dodge, white Hemi/auto
1966 Dodge, broze Hemi/auto (Mike Ross's car)
1966 Dodge, dark blue Hemi/ 4 speed
1966 Plymouth, dark green Hemi/ 4 speed
1967 Plymouth, light blue Hemi/auto (Finland car)

There is a possible 7th car: will know more in a few months.
Posted By: FC7cuda

Re: What are the four door Hemis worth? - 04/14/20 01:24 AM

I’d love to own one, I think they’re the ultimate sleeper car. Any for sale??? Lmk
Posted By: Twostick

Re: What are the four door Hemis worth? - 04/14/20 04:19 AM

Originally Posted by EWJ
Originally Posted by Frank Cannon
Wow, there are four known now, I had only seen the red and white ones.


There are 6 I know of:

1966 Dodge, red Hemi/auto (the Fred Clyne car, in the initial post on this thread)
1966 Dodge, white Hemi/auto
1966 Dodge, broze Hemi/auto (Mike Ross's car)
1966 Dodge, dark blue Hemi/ 4 speed
1966 Plymouth, dark green Hemi/ 4 speed
1967 Plymouth, light blue Hemi/auto (Finland car)

There is a possible 7th car: will know more in a few months.


Which one was in the Garlits Museum?

Kevin
Posted By: Diego (not Ted)

Re: What are the four door Hemis worth? - 04/14/20 04:44 AM

Originally Posted by EWJ

1966 Plymouth, dark green Hemi/ 4 speed


Is this the car in MN?

A guy I know has one, but don't remember the color. He keeps a low profile but isn't a "get off my lawn"-kind of guy.
Posted By: 6bblgt

Re: What are the four door Hemis worth? - 04/14/20 05:01 AM

Originally Posted by Twostick

Which one was in the Garlits Museum?


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Posted By: 6bblgt

Re: What are the four door Hemis worth? - 04/14/20 05:11 AM

Originally Posted by Diego (not Ted)
Originally Posted by EWJ

1966 Plymouth, dark green Hemi/ 4 speed


Is this the car in MN?

A guy I know has one, but don't remember the color. He keeps a low profile but isn't a "get off my lawn"-kind of guy.


I don't think so, I believe it was stolen & is currently unrecovered

the red car is up in that neighborhood shruggy
Posted By: HEMICUDA

Re: What are the four door Hemis worth? - 04/14/20 08:46 AM

Originally Posted by hemicar1971
Originally Posted by not_a_charger
The gold one is gorgeous. I saw it at Mike's place a few years ago.


I guess the four door is Gold not Brown. It was around me on the street for years and years. I could tell you about one story in an underground parking garage but that is not fare to this car or Mike. The beauty of this car has been brought back to it, never really liked the scoop that was on it but the times were very different back in the 80s.


You won't hurt my feelings sharing a story like that. I still have the cheesy JC Whitney hood scoop.
Posted By: viperakron

Re: What are the four door Hemis worth? - 04/14/20 12:24 PM

So to answer the title of the thread, what do they sell for? Back in the 90s they brought some big $$$. Haven't seen one traded for some time.
Posted By: sixpakdodge

Re: What are the four door Hemis worth? - 04/14/20 01:07 PM

I believe the blue Dodge is in MN.

As far as production numbers...if Chrysler would let someone go through the production numbers for the '66-67 cars Darrell Davis style, you guys would be shocked. I know of a few more four-door '66 Hemi Coronets that are not on this list, and have the word of two different Dodge dealers who saw them first hand in 1966 to verify their existence. One was an instant engine donor for sure (NE Ohio).

Value? The red car went through B-J in 2007 at $660k. A 4-speed '66 500 went for $93k at the same auction. I think a prime example of a four door would struggle to pull half of what the red car did in '07. As stated before, it takes a special person to own one. It's hard to gauge interest or value, as they're not often on the market. Personally, I like them, but I also have a '66 Hemi Coronet Sedan. A taxi-cab minus two doors...
Posted By: sixpacksteve

Re: What are the four door Hemis worth? - 04/14/20 01:28 PM

No one knows Now! everything evolves. what difference is if 10 or 100 were made. whats left. what matters, and how bad does someone want one.
if everyone like them so much,then you can make one. folks are concerned with resale value. who knows where market is going?
its a cool car because there are few. Not big on looks. 2 many doors.
Posted By: EWJ

Re: What are the four door Hemis worth? - 04/14/20 05:22 PM

Originally Posted by Diego (not Ted)
Originally Posted by EWJ

1966 Plymouth, dark green Hemi/ 4 speed


Is this the car in MN?

A guy I know has one, but don't remember the color. He keeps a low profile but isn't a "get off my lawn"-kind of guy.


The green 1966 Plymouth was ordered new by my father and stolen in 1980. It was always in NJ. More details can be found in the Moparts Archives: there is a thread on Hemi 4 door cars there which go into greater depth regarding many of the cars noted in this thread thus far.

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Posted By: EWJ

Re: What are the four door Hemis worth? - 04/14/20 05:24 PM

Originally Posted by 6bblgt
Originally Posted by Twostick

Which one was in the Garlits Museum?


The Garlits museum car is a clone, I thought. If so, then the white 1966 Dodge I make reference to is out there somewhere. In the late 1980s/early 1990s it was in the same town/general area the red Floyd Cline car was.
Posted By: EWJ

Re: What are the four door Hemis worth? - 04/14/20 05:26 PM

Originally Posted by sixpakdodge
I believe the blue Dodge is in MN.


The blue Dodge I make reference to is not in MN. Not saying that there is not one in MN, just saying this is not the one I know of.
Posted By: not_a_charger

Re: What are the four door Hemis worth? - 04/14/20 05:32 PM

Originally Posted by EWJ
Originally Posted by Diego (not Ted)
Originally Posted by EWJ

1966 Plymouth, dark green Hemi/ 4 speed


Is this the car in MN?

A guy I know has one, but don't remember the color. He keeps a low profile but isn't a "get off my lawn"-kind of guy.


The green 1966 Plymouth was ordered new by my father and stolen in 1980. It was always in NJ. More details can be found in the Moparts Archives: there is a thread on Hemi 4 door cars there which go into greater depth regarding many of the cars noted in this thread thus far.


I can't find that thread anywhere. How old is it? Maybe I missed it when looking through the archives.
Posted By: EWJ

Re: What are the four door Hemis worth? - 04/14/20 05:43 PM

Qu
Originally Posted by not_a_charger
Originally Posted by EWJ
Originally Posted by Diego (not Ted)
Originally Posted by EWJ

1966 Plymouth, dark green Hemi/ 4 speed


Is this the car in MN?

A guy I know has one, but don't remember the color. He keeps a low profile but isn't a "get off my lawn"-kind of guy.


The green 1966 Plymouth was ordered new by my father and stolen in 1980. It was always in NJ. More details can be found in the Moparts Archives: there is a thread on Hemi 4 door cars there which go into greater depth regarding many of the cars noted in this thread thus far.


I can't find that thread anywhere. How old is it? Maybe I missed it when looking through the archives.


All the photos were lost when the servers were changed for this site, but the thread is below:

https://board.moparts.org/ubbthread...lymouth-4-door-hemi-cars.html#Post582925
Posted By: EWJ

Re: What are the four door Hemis worth? - 04/14/20 07:46 PM

Window sticker for the Floyd Cline car (the red 1966 Dodge):

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Posted By: EWJ

Re: What are the four door Hemis worth? - 04/14/20 07:52 PM

Glove box door plaque on the Floyd Cline car:

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Posted By: EWJ

Re: What are the four door Hemis worth? - 04/14/20 07:56 PM

VIN of the white 1966 Dodge. If this is the VIN of the car in Don's museum then it's not a clone:

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Posted By: hemicar1971

Re: What are the four door Hemis worth? - 04/14/20 09:24 PM

Here is the story on the Bronze four door. It was way back in the late 70s.and we put on a Mopar only car show in Toronto. Len Weiler shows up with the Hemi Four Door and his wife drives in with the Super Bird. Day was going ok till about noon and it started to rain. The show moved to an under ground garage and cars were driving in and Lens wife drives the Bird in with no problem wing and all. Well Len comes in with the Four Door and rubs a Cement Pillar and takes the chrome off and some paint on the back end. We were all saying how can he do that but his wife can manage to make it in without hitting anything in a Super Bird. Not sure if there was any Major quarter damage but the trim came off and was on the ground. Back in those days I would take the A12 Runner to shows and the fun mostly was after the show going to the Hot Car spots in Toronto I would frequent on the most weekends to drag race on the street.

Mike if you still have that hood scoop, take a picture of it and post that would bring back a lot of memories. I got a picture of the scoop on the Four Door some place from the 70s but likely could never find it. If I had known Tony D. was going to sell the four door I would of made him an offer on the four door at this time. I wanted another Hemi Car and have a soft spot for 1966 shoe boxes. I have never got a Hemi Shoe Box, Hemi E Bodies seem to get in the way and all my A12 are gone now also.

One other thing I just thought of. I was told by a Salesman years ago that worked at Davidson Chrysler on Kingston Rd., in Scarborough, Ontario, Canada that they had a 1966 Hemi Four Door on the lot and it was Bronze, Brown. Do not know it this is the same car that Mike owns now. I was more interested in other cars sold from the Dealership then like the 68 Super Stock Cars.
Posted By: EWJ

Re: What are the four door Hemis worth? - 04/14/20 10:06 PM

Here is a picture of Mike's Bronze car, with the hood scoop:

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Posted By: EWJ

Re: What are the four door Hemis worth? - 04/14/20 10:23 PM

A few pictures of the Floyd Cline car:

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Posted By: EWJ

Re: What are the four door Hemis worth? - 04/14/20 10:24 PM

Another picture of the 1967 Plymouth in Finland:

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Posted By: EWJ

Re: What are the four door Hemis worth? - 04/14/20 10:25 PM

Another picture of the 1966 Plymouth, from 1979:

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Posted By: hemicar1971

Re: What are the four door Hemis worth? - 04/15/20 12:20 AM

And inside the garage was a 440-6 Yellow Super Bird owned by Tony D.


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Posted By: Twostick

Re: What are the four door Hemis worth? - 04/15/20 12:48 AM

Originally Posted by EWJ
Originally Posted by 6bblgt
Originally Posted by Twostick

Which one was in the Garlits Museum?


The Garlits museum car is a clone, I thought. If so, then the white 1966 Dodge I make reference to is out there somewhere. In the late 1980s/early 1990s it was in the same town/general area the red Floyd Cline car was.


It was close to 30 years ago when I saw it there and I recall some blurb about it being an FBI pursuit car. I thought it was some brownish colour tho.

Kevin
Posted By: Diego (not Ted)

Re: What are the four door Hemis worth? - 04/15/20 04:11 AM

Originally Posted by 6bblgt


I don't think so, I believe it was stolen & is currently unrecovered

the red car is up in that neighborhood shruggy


Dan, I introduced you to him several years ago at MCACN. I was hoping you'd remember. He's owned it for quite some time. Also used to own something like Buddy Martin's Barracuda, which was like a Gran Coupe customized with 'Cuda stuff or ???? I think that one was red.

Wish I remembered more details.
Posted By: 6bblgt

Re: What are the four door Hemis worth? - 04/15/20 09:05 AM

the red Coronet was at MCACN in 2014 (50th anniversary of the HEMI display)

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Posted By: EWJ

Re: What are the four door Hemis worth? - 04/15/20 11:45 AM

Originally Posted by Diego (not Ted)
Originally Posted by 6bblgt


I don't think so, I believe it was stolen & is currently unrecovered

the red car is up in that neighborhood shruggy


Dan, I introduced you to him several years ago at MCACN. I was hoping you'd remember. He's owned it for quite some time. Also used to own something like Buddy Martin's Barracuda, which was like a Gran Coupe customized with 'Cuda stuff or ???? I think that one was red.

Wish I remembered more details.


The red Floyd Cline car was owned by William DiGillio for some time: he restored it and owned it at the time the car was on display at Chryslers at Carlisle (I am not use of what year it was). William also owned the bronze Dodge around the same time, before Mike Ross. Not sure if this is the person you are thinking of.
Posted By: Diego (not Ted)

Re: What are the four door Hemis worth? - 04/16/20 05:07 AM

Originally Posted by EWJ


The red Floyd Cline car was owned by William DiGillio for some time: he restored it and owned it at the time the car was on display at Chryslers at Carlisle (I am not use of what year it was). William also owned the bronze Dodge around the same time, before Mike Ross. Not sure if this is the person you are thinking of.


Nah, I'm familiar with the two cars that appeared in HPP around 1986. Certainly not confusing those.

This guy owns a collectibles business. I've known him for years. Certainly not mixing up the owner. AFAI recall, he's owned the car for years and years.
Posted By: sixpacksteve

Re: What are the four door Hemis worth? - 04/16/20 12:19 PM

Imagine, if they would of made a 70 4 door barracuda with a hemi.
Posted By: Pacnorthcuda

Re: What are the four door Hemis worth? - 04/16/20 01:27 PM

Originally Posted by sixpacksteve
Imagine, if they would of made a 70 4 door barracuda with a hemi.


Nobody would have bought it.
Posted By: EWJ

Re: What are the four door Hemis worth? - 04/16/20 05:03 PM

Originally Posted by Diego (not Ted)
Originally Posted by EWJ


The red Floyd Cline car was owned by William DiGillio for some time: he restored it and owned it at the time the car was on display at Chryslers at Carlisle (I am not use of what year it was). William also owned the bronze Dodge around the same time, before Mike Ross. Not sure if this is the person you are thinking of.


Nah, I'm familiar with the two cars that appeared in HPP around 1986. Certainly not confusing those.

This guy owns a collectibles business. I've known him for years. Certainly not mixing up the owner. AFAI recall, he's owned the car for years and years.


So are you then saying that there is another red Dodge, besides the Floyd Cline car (which was in HPP in 1986 and was owned/retored by William DiGillio)?
Posted By: Diego (not Ted)

Re: What are the four door Hemis worth? - 04/17/20 03:36 AM

Originally Posted by EWJ


So are you then saying that there is another red Dodge, besides the Floyd Cline car (which was in HPP in 1986 and was owned/retored by William DiGillio)?


I never said it was red. I don't remember the color. I think it's a 1966 Plymouth too.
Posted By: EWJ

Re: What are the four door Hemis worth? - 04/17/20 04:21 AM

Originally Posted by Diego (not Ted)
Originally Posted by 6bblgt


I don't think so, I believe it was stolen & is currently unrecovered

the red car is up in that neighborhood shruggy


Dan, I introduced you to him several years ago at MCACN. I was hoping you'd remember. He's owned it for quite some time. Also used to own something like Buddy Martin's Barracuda, which was like a Gran Coupe customized with 'Cuda stuff or ???? I think that one was red.

Wish I remembered more details.


As you quoted this in your initial reply, it lead me to believe the car was red.
Thanks for the clarification.
Posted By: Diego (not Ted)

Re: What are the four door Hemis worth? - 04/17/20 04:22 AM

You're welcome!

I was hesitant to ask him again, but I'll give it a shot.
Posted By: sixpacksteve

Re: What are the four door Hemis worth? - 04/17/20 02:12 PM

If i remember the article correct from the 80's the red one was used as a Taxi cab!
Posted By: EWJ

Re: What are the four door Hemis worth? - 04/17/20 03:09 PM

Originally Posted by Diego (not Ted)
You're welcome!

I was hesitant to ask him again, but I'll give it a shot.


Please do and let us know (or PM me): am a huge fan of these cars.
Posted By: Diego (not Ted)

Re: What are the four door Hemis worth? - 04/18/20 03:02 AM

Alrighty, it's a 1966 Coronet and it's light blue.
Posted By: EWJ

Re: What are the four door Hemis worth? - 04/18/20 04:39 AM

Originally Posted by Diego (not Ted)
Alrighty, it's a 1966 Coronet and it's light blue.


Thanks for finding out. Is it 4 speed or auto? Also, where is it in general (southeastern US, Central US, etc.)?
Posted By: Diego (not Ted)

Re: What are the four door Hemis worth? - 04/18/20 06:28 PM

Don't know what tranny, but it's in MN, remember? laugh2 up
Posted By: EWJ

Re: What are the four door Hemis worth? - 04/18/20 06:55 PM

Originally Posted by Diego (not Ted)
Don't know what tranny, but it's in MN, remember? laugh2 up

Thanks. With the way the conversation evolved, did not realize that confirmation was on the MN car. Thanks for confirming the color. I believe from other times this car was discussed, it is a four speed car.

Thanks for your patience with me on this!
Posted By: EWJ

Re: What are the four door Hemis worth? - 04/18/20 06:59 PM

Moderators- once this thread runs its course, can we please archive this? There is little conversation that happens with these cars, and this current thread has content beyond the 4 door Hemi thread from some years back which is archived. In addition, as the archived thread has lost all of its pictures, this current thread will help supplement that.

Thanks!
Posted By: Diego (not Ted)

Re: What are the four door Hemis worth? - 04/19/20 08:36 PM

Originally Posted by EWJ


Thanks for your patience with me on this!


Oh, please, it's all in fun!

And with several conversations within the same wavelength, I don't blame ya for needing some straightening out.
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