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Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build

Posted By: HemiChallenger

Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/17/07 08:16 AM

The Project: Completely Restore a 1971 Super Bee On a Budget of Under $5000

The Crew: Two 17 Years Olds; Stephen Sigel and Ryan Pastrana

The Goal: Have the car completely done for our 2008 Senior Prom

Basic Info: Myself and my friend are attemping to completely overhaul a 71 Super Bee and be able to take my 73 Challenger, and the 71 Super Bee to Prom. The idea is for us two to do the project ourselves with help only when needed(installation of componets etc.). The project car was found about 3 months ago in the middle of Staten Island, New York for a purchase price of $1500. The car was then put away until today when we have finally started to tear into the project. We will be working on the things non stop and updating weekly.

The Car: Originally a 383 Auto Super Bee, the plan is to make the car a 383 4 speed. The original Paint was White with a Black top and stripe. The new color Scheme is undecided.

Here is the Car as we pulled it forward to start into the project...






Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/17/07 08:37 AM

2 Hours Later...









Also discovered that the car had a 70 E-body 4 speed console in it, crack free to boot
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/17/07 08:40 AM

As you know the more you take away the rustier they get








We are making some decent progress, although a lot of the bolts are extra crispy and may require the use of some power tools
Posted By: DaytonaTurbo

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/17/07 08:58 AM

Wow, good luck with that.

2008! Better get off the computer and get your azz out to the garage and start working on that thing.
Posted By: 70Coronet500Vert

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/17/07 12:06 PM

Good Luck!
Posted By: InViolent

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/17/07 12:26 PM

Man...to be 17 and have access to a workshop like that???? I spent my days and nights laying on my back on a usually wet driveway with a flashlight back when I was 17!
Posted By: DUFFMAN

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/17/07 01:08 PM

WOW!

Good luck with that. I'm not sure I'll have my Coronet ready for my May of 2008 deadline and all I'm doing is an engine swap.

FYI the engine swap is going to cost me about $1000 by the time it's back on the road and I already have about 85% of the parts including the engine and trans. Of coarse that includes rebuilding the front suspension since I have the k-frame out anyway.
Posted By: Goldfinger71

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/17/07 01:18 PM

Good luck guys!
I wish you well in staying under your budget!
It can be done with a little hard work!
Posted By: Harlow383

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/17/07 04:16 PM

Thats cool Good luck. I'm looking forward to those progress pics. By the way. I think the white with black top and stripe would look REALLY good!
Posted By: migsBIG

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/17/07 04:19 PM

$5000 on resto and your finding rust like that? Looks like you'll be having your prom at McDonald's!

Good for you, instead of just sitting at home, you and a friend are working on a mopar. That's too cool. Try to paint the car a bright color to hide any body flaws, incase you need to scrap on by the budget meter.
Posted By: dcoronet383

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/17/07 04:53 PM

Looks doable for under 5k. Goodluck with it.
Posted By: carcrazyguy

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/17/07 04:58 PM

Sounds like a blast to me!! Good luck on the project!!
Posted By: rrbrucea

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/17/07 05:04 PM

Quote:

Good for you, instead of just sitting at home, you and a friend are working on a mopar. That's too cool. Try to paint the car a bright color to hide any body flaws, incase you need to scrap on by the budget meter.




White is a GREAT color to hide bodywork flaws and imperfections in the paint... DAMHIK!

Let us know if we can help hook you up with parts.
Posted By: Silver70

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/17/07 05:57 PM

Good luck, it can be done. However I would be out having fun with my friends if I was still in hs. You can build cars your whole life, but only in hs for a few years!
Posted By: DUFFMAN

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/17/07 09:07 PM

Man, how many of us had dreams of gradure like this when we where in HS?
Posted By: DennisH

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/17/07 09:37 PM

All the best. You will make 5 grand go further than I ever could.
Posted By: nakita7

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/17/07 09:54 PM

But I thought a resto was a MINIMUM of $40,000...that's what I keep hearing???
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/17/07 11:00 PM

Thanks all for the kind words and the encouragement. We do all the work on off peak hours (12am and on) Its about the only time we have between being with friends and working. Now we have the whole car pretty much gutted out except for a few problem nuts and bolts which we will have to get a little physical with.

Here is my friend, Ryan, wrenching away...





I think we will be needing a new gas tank! What do you think?




The parts pile is growing...





Just Gutted






More rust





Somebody Long ago started some bodywork on it obviously and never finished...




Tommorrow i think we are going to grab some parts cars for some donor metal, $500 for the pair, and we can resell some of the parts to try and elimate the cost of the car
Posted By: JonsGottaDusta

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/17/07 11:01 PM

Looks awesome dude! I think you can do it with some good part searching eyes I would love to do that sometime soon

Maybe you can get a few ppl to sponsor you A.K.A. Donate parts, etc. If I was closer I would be glad to lend a hand!

- Jon
Posted By: clownzilla

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/18/07 12:58 AM

Guys , this is so awesome.

I did the same thing back in highschool with my buddies 71 Charger.
It was a total basket case, and our neighbor was a body man.

We resurrected the body and painted it dark purple metallic, redid the interior.

Built a blown 383 ,727, sure grip 3:91 gears.
Rebuilt or replaced what needed to be, and took it to our highschool prom.
Dude, that was the best summer of my life in 1989.

The prom was great and we definitely had the coolest car, did not drive drunk, but did rent a motel room.


The car is now in Ohio and was converted for drag strip use only.

P.S. I am still married to my prom date.
Posted By: Silver70

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/18/07 01:53 AM

Quote:


Tommorrow i think we are going to grab some parts cars for some donor metal, $500 for the pair, and we can resell some of the parts to try and elimate the cost of the car



I think thats the only way your staying under 5k. Thats how I was able to do one, in reality I spent over 10k, but little wheeling/dealing, trading/selling parts... looks like you'd have 3k min in sheetmetal.

And the 40k comment, if your having someone do all the work, 40k can go pretty quick at 50 an hour plus parts/material!
Posted By: 1972CudaV21

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/18/07 03:01 AM

Hey guys! Why a $5,000.00 dollar budget?..Not being wise about it, I just was curious.
Posted By: 71sat440

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/18/07 03:36 AM

Use 1 $500 civic to patch the floors, use another $500 civic to patch the cowl...... it might be doable.
Posted By: Mustanghater

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/18/07 03:59 AM

what would give to have a shop like that
Posted By: sunroofgtx

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/18/07 05:23 AM

Great project !!! Maybe we should start a list of things we can donate ?? I'll start. I have a Z bracket and a billit 4 speed shifter bracket !! Let us know.. Maybe someone will fork over a mint pad and Goldberg Hemi !!
Posted By: 70Coronet500Vert

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/18/07 12:04 PM

How many friends you have on this project?

Want a word of advise? No? Tough! It's the Inet and I can post what I want.

You guys need to draw straws, pick a number or ::gulp:: volunteer and have one of you peel off the "fun" work and start stripping, wire wheeling, scraping, reconditioning, priming and painting all your interior and suspension parts. Then bag'em and keep'em free from dust. It would behoove you to match the interior panels with the proper screws, the seats with proper screws and brackets.

Get the K-frame stripped, dipped and powder coated and get the suspension rebuilt and installed.

Think about brake lines, fuels lines and tranny lines. They need cleaned or replaced. Do not leave any fuel line in its present state. I did and ended up buying EVERYTHING fo the fuel system. Blow out your hard lines, replace your rubber hoses.

Your console will take the better part of two days for you to restore. Your AC box could take a week. You can do it all, but it takes TIME and it will take as much time on the interior as all that steel work is going to take. You dash and wiring alone could take a month. What about lights and lenses? Polish them up, touch up the paint = TIME.

Good luck, but now that the "tear down" is done, y'all need to get that plan we discused out and put it into action. Divvy up the list with clear cut responsibilities.

Put together a numbered list, post it on the beer fridge and when you get your waters and sodas, check off only what is complete.

You will spend hundreds of dollars on fasteners if you do not bag and tag and clean properly.
Posted By: quick77rt

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/18/07 12:25 PM


I agree with the poster I quoted, and both cars look like good resto-cars, esp the bee. With + - 5000 built it deserves a good resto.

With what you have there you could work full time and it would take alot of time.

If your going to clean, paint, re-plate parts this all takes so much time and the more anal you are the better the car will turn out.

The other day I spent 4 hours on the two rear brake drums of one of my ta cars ...cleaning,blasting.....ect....now they are wrapped up and boxed until they will be ready to be used.

Time and money....you have two very nice cars to work with and looks like a nice shop to work in....and last of all, do a good job, because for everyone who like the car you will find one who wants to judge it, weather fair or not.

Good luck.




Quote:

How many friends you have on this project?

Want a word of advise? No? Tough! It's the Inet and I can post what I want.

You guys need to draw straws, pick a number or ::gulp:: volunteer and have one of you peel off the "fun" work and start stripping, wire wheeling, scraping, reconditioning, priming and painting all your interior and suspension parts. Then bag'em and keep'em free from dust. It would behoove you to match the interior panels with the proper screws, the seats with proper screws and brackets.

Get the K-frame stripped, dipped and powder coated and get the suspension rebuilt and installed.

Think about brake lines, fuels lines and tranny lines. They need cleaned or replaced. Do not leave any fuel line in its present state. I did and ended up buying EVERYTHING fo the fuel system. Blow out your hard lines, replace your rubber hoses.

Your console will take the better part of two days for you to restore. Your AC box could take a week. You can do it all, but it takes TIME and it will take as much time on the interior as all that steel work is going to take. You dash and wiring alone could take a month. What about lights and lenses? Polish them up, touch up the paint = TIME.

Good luck, but now that the "tear down" is done, y'all need to get that plan we discused out and put it into action. Divvy up the list with clear cut responsibilities.

Put together a numbered list, post it on the beer fridge and when you get your waters and sodas, check off only what is complete.

You will spend hundreds of dollars on fasteners if you do not bag and tag and clean properly.

Posted By: sunroofgtx

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/18/07 02:22 PM

To give these "kids" some credit, they are thoroughly qualified for this task. Not sure they want to do a concourse resto, just make a cool ride for prom, and get them lucky with some hotties. Good luck guys.
Posted By: 70Coronet500Vert

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/18/07 02:49 PM

Quote:

To give these "kids" some credit, they are thoroughly qualified for this task. Not sure they want to do a concourse resto, just make a cool ride for prom, and get them lucky with some hotties. Good luck guys.



I agree on concourse. Face it, $5K is no where near concourse. All I was talking about was basic clean up and resto of parts that you see. It takes time and one of'em should start doing that stuff now. Follow the "how-to" article on doing the AC box. That is days of work. Think of your dash and simply cleaning and re-dying and painting all the parts, again days.

Bagging it all togheter with the fastenes is a smart idea. I did it and it was very helpful. Or at least label the bags, "Left door hardware" Hood catch hardware, etc.....
Posted By: 340SIX

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/18/07 03:09 PM

Quote:

Quote:

To give these "kids" some credit, they are thoroughly qualified for this task. Not sure they want to do a concourse resto, just make a cool ride for prom, and get them lucky with some hotties. Good luck guys.



I agree on concourse. Face it, $5K is no where near concourse. All I was talking about was basic clean up and resto of parts that you see. It takes time and one of'em should start doing that stuff now. Follow the "how-to" article on doing the AC box. That is days of work. Think of your dash and simply cleaning and re-dying and painting all the parts, again days.

Bagging it all togheter with the fastenes is a smart idea. I did it and it was very helpful. Or at least label the bags, "Left door hardware" Hood catch hardware, etc.....

the whole time my vert was at the body shop i was cleaning/blasting, painting, rebuilding everything that was on the car when it was striped.and i mean everything seats ect were even in 110 gallon bags.

I also did the same with the dart sport. everything was labled. only problem is everything from both cars were in my home attic ect.
So bad box everything when done and have fun
Posted By: sunroofgtx

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/18/07 04:24 PM

Quote:

Quote:

To give these "kids" some credit, they are thoroughly qualified for this task. Not sure they want to do a concourse resto, just make a cool ride for prom, and get them lucky with some hotties. Good luck guys.



I agree on concourse. Face it, $5K is no where near concourse. All I was talking about was basic clean up and resto of parts that you see. It takes time and one of'em should start doing that stuff now. Follow the "how-to" article on doing the AC box. That is days of work. Think of your dash and simply cleaning and re-dying and painting all the parts, again days.

Bagging it all togheter with the fastenes is a smart idea. I did it and it was very helpful. Or at least label the bags, "Left door hardware" Hood catch hardware, etc.....



This holds true, especially if one of the gang falls off of the team. If everything is tagged and bagged, any knucklehead can put it back together..LOL almost... Don't ask me how I know... All excellent advise. I'm sure The guys will be fine. His dads Hemi Chally was mint !!!
Posted By: JonsGottaDusta

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/18/07 05:50 PM

Quote:

To give these "kids" some credit, they are thoroughly qualified for this task. Not sure they want to do a concourse resto, just make a cool ride for prom, and get them lucky with some hotties. Good luck guys.



Posted By: DemonKyle

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/18/07 08:04 PM

Take it from someone whos in the middle of "put back", bag and label everything!!!! Ad make sure you know where you keep it all. Good Luck Guys
Posted By: bschargerse

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/18/07 09:24 PM

Steve,

Good luck on the car. Who's going to drive the Challenger? All it needs is the distributor and the right rear wheel.
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/19/07 06:07 PM

Once again Thanks for the all the support, It will really help us throughout the project!

aliving824 I dont know why the $5000 budget, beside the fact that it sounded good at the time

We think that it is really awesome that some would offer there knowledge, advice, and parts to the project! We cannot thank and be greatful enough.

There is mainly two of us with some stray guys every once and awhile. Myself and Ryan are the two main players. Ryan bought the car but ran into some problems so my dad bought it off of him and now were working on restoring it so he can still get the experiece. This is his first hands on car type of work so its sometimes stressful with a newbie, but worth it

Brian- I will be driving the Challenger, this one we are building for Ryan

Rick- I cant thank you enough for the compliments and positive thoughts, it really means a lot


Last night we finish up pulling off the fuel lines and a few of nick nacks that we never did. I went ahead and drilled of the sheet metal needing replaced of the inner fender area...




Pulled off the metal that over hangs to see how bad it is. Still trying to decide what kind of replacement we will do on the cowl. Ouch that is rusty!



I had Ryan practice of the junk i pulled off before we get him going on the real deal



Laying in some metal to invision it back together...


Posted By: Harlow383

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/19/07 08:11 PM

Nice man. You guys are making good progress. It sure looks rusty. Whats the plan for the paint scheme? I vote for the original white with black top and stripe.
Posted By: bschargerse

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/19/07 08:26 PM

good job Steve, let me know if you want to come down and work on the Charger.
Posted By: CYACOP

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/19/07 09:06 PM

Quote:

Good luck, it can be done. However I would be out having fun with my friends if I was still in hs. You can build cars your whole life, but only in hs for a few years!



Do you really mean that?
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/19/07 09:52 PM

Quote:

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Good luck, it can be done. However I would be out having fun with my friends if I was still in hs. You can build cars your whole life, but only in hs for a few years!



Do you really mean that?

I see were the comment is coming from and i agree. Yes i do have fun with my friends but then again EVERYONE has something that they love to do and enjoy, whether its a sports, computers, cars, etc. I enjoy this and my friends take an interest in it too. It brings us together and we have memories do this too. I couldnt have had my motor out and back in without 5 guys help! I keep an even balance, so dont worry im not wasting my golden years!
Posted By: sunroofgtx

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/19/07 10:33 PM

Quote:

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Good luck, it can be done. However I would be out having fun with my friends if I was still in hs. You can build cars your whole life, but only in hs for a few years!



Do you really mean that?

I see were the comment is coming from and i agree. Yes i do have fun with my friends but then again EVERYONE has something that they love to do and enjoy, whether its a sports, computers, cars, etc. I enjoy this and my friends take an interest in it too. It brings us together and we have memories do this too. I couldnt have had my motor out and back in without 5 guys help! I keep an even balance, so dont worry im not wasting my golden years!



I've got the same problem...errr, I mean help !! I could not have done it, orrrr, it would have taken months longer than havin my Moparts brothers and our Cleveland Crew here with me...




















Posted By: ProStreetFm3

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/20/07 12:38 AM

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Good luck, it can be done. However I would be out having fun with my friends if I was still in hs. You can build cars your whole life, but only in hs for a few years!


I couldn't disagree more. I had a BLAST building the Duster my Jr and Sr year in high school. In fact 19 years later all my buddy's still talk about working on it all week after school and "goin to the Grove on Saturday". And my Dad loved it because he always knew where we were. If there is a kid on this board that can do this it's Steve
Posted By: VITC_GTX

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/20/07 02:15 AM

Awesome.

Keep us up to date on the progress.

I wish I could get that motivated
Posted By: DemonKyle

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/29/07 11:45 PM

Any Update this week?
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/31/07 06:23 AM

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Any Update this week?

I would have an update but i just got back from an 8 day vaction to the west coast...Updates coming soon
Posted By: NAS Backyard

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/31/07 06:43 AM

Take digital pictures of EVERYTHING, up, down, sideways, lots of pictures! Bag EVERYTHING!!! I DID! Put them on your computer, and I am forever greatful for doing it, otherwise it would have been hard to get it back together. I have over 600 pictures of my car in pieces. Unbelievably valuable! Get one of those metal spray machines and your in business! Good Luck, Your 17, and failure isn't even in your vocabulary yet!

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Posted By: Silver70

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/31/07 04:10 PM

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Take digital pictures of EVERYTHING, up, down, sideways, lots of pictures! Bag EVERYTHING!!! I DID! Put them on your computer, and I am forever greatful for doing it, otherwise it would have been hard to get it back together. I have over 600 pictures of my car in pieces. Unbelievably valuable! Get one of those metal spray machines and your in business! Good Luck, Your 17, and failure isn't even in your vocabulary yet!



I find it easier to have another car together near by
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 08/12/07 09:46 PM

Where's the update!?????? I wanna see updates!!!!!
Posted By: NAS Backyard

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 08/12/07 10:54 PM

Quote:

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Take digital pictures of EVERYTHING, up, down, sideways, lots of pictures! Bag EVERYTHING!!! I DID! Put them on your computer, and I am forever greatful for doing it, otherwise it would have been hard to get it back together. I have over 600 pictures of my car in pieces. Unbelievably valuable! Get one of those metal spray machines and your in business! Good Luck, Your 17, and failure isn't even in your vocabulary yet!



I find it easier to have another car together near by

I also had a partial parts car on hand for that which was very valuable too.
Posted By: bschargerse

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 08/13/07 12:36 PM

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I would have an update but i just got back from an 8 day vaction to the west coast



You're supposed to spend your vacation working on the car!

Keep the update pics coming!
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 08/13/07 06:26 PM

Alrgiht, ive been slacking, vactioning is over now that im back from the nats, working on her tonight and tommarrow so pics will be here soon
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 09/02/07 02:18 PM

common man! your slacking--where are the pictures!??????
Posted By: MRVCODE

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 09/02/07 02:58 PM

What a great idea. That Super bee would look killer wearing it's original white paint with a pair of steelies! Where in Staten Island did you find it? What was the sellers name?

Best of luck.
Posted By: jpilone

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 09/02/07 03:21 PM

Updates updates!! You're slacking!
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 09/03/07 05:33 PM

That i have been...i have the pictures but havent had time to put them online...i promise very soon i will update you for the past month
Posted By: Stationwagonguy

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 09/03/07 07:03 PM

Cool project, I'ma gonna save this so I can keep updated as well. I need inspiration.

And thanks again for dragging that Quarter Panel to the Nats for me last year! I really appreciate it.
Posted By: bigsexy440

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 09/14/07 07:57 PM

Man I am bumping this awesomeness to the top...

Any update guys?

I would kill to have more memories like this with my best high school bud. We both had our Mopars, I had my '73 Charger and he a '73 Satellite, and we messed around with them, but never had the funds to do it right. Always said that we would restore them together in the future.
Fast forward a few years, and during a surgery, my friend unfortunately passes away. We wont get to do what we always planned.
All the more reason to make the most of it and do it.

Keep going!
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 09/14/07 08:09 PM

Quote:

Man I am bumping this awesomeness to the top...

Any update guys?

I would kill to have more memories like this with my best high school bud. We both had our Mopars, I had my '73 Charger and he a '73 Satellite, and we messed around with them, but never had the funds to do it right. Always said that we would restore them together in the future.
Fast forward a few years, and during a surgery, my friend unfortunately passes away. We wont get to do what we always planned.
All the more reason to make the most of it and do it.

Keep going!



Thanks well i have tons of pics of some updates but just havent founnd the time to get them up...most of the body progress has slowed since we just got our air line back up and running this past weekend. I'll try and get them up on sunday for you all
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 10/15/07 02:16 AM

Well i know its been awhile since my last post but here it goes. I have been very busy with school and work but in the mean time there was a large delay to the cars progress due to lack of tools. We got our air system up and running with a hard line running through the middle of the garge with two drop downs and a real up front at the doors. It works great! We also had to wire in a 220 and build a extensior cord for our welder. Heres some pictures of that part...



Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 10/15/07 02:26 AM

We completely disassembled the dash and found that the only things we will use off of it are what picture, everything else was junked due to serious corrosion or rust



Here is the make shift sandblast both




I cleaned up the area where we will be welding in the new inner fender




Got about a 1/4 of the car taken down...



There was so much filler on this car i could not beilve, sometime measuring close to an inch
Posted By: sunroofgtx

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 10/15/07 02:49 AM

C'mon dude. Those broads are going to go to prom in a sweet ride.. Get busy !! Whats on your wish list ??
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 10/15/07 03:09 AM

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C'mon dude. Those broads are going to go to prom in a sweet ride.. Get busy !! Whats on your wish list ??



If anyone does have anything that they are willing to part with let me know, we gotta buy it somehow

4 speed conversion stuff
tailights
seat tracks

or anything that is used for the drivetrain (msd box, radiator, distributor)we want to make the best motor we can for the buck
Posted By: sunroofgtx

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 10/15/07 03:24 AM

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C'mon dude. Those broads are going to go to prom in a sweet ride.. Get busy !! Whats on your wish list ??



If anyone does have anything that they are willing to part with let me know, we gotta buy it somehow

4 speed conversion stuff
tailights
seat tracks

or anything that is used for the drivetrain (msd box, radiator, distributor)we want to make the best motor we can for the buck



I have a big C Body Radiator, a billet 4 speed bracket, ..
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 10/15/07 08:03 PM

rick let me know what ill owe ya for the stuff and shipping to 17512
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 10/30/07 01:39 AM

Hey Guys! Got a little more work done to the car...

Striped the drivers quarter found it was a lot more rustier that the passenger side...



Also prepped the metal to weld the inner fenders back on...

Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 10/30/07 01:47 AM

Then later i placed the inner fender back in and gave it a few welds after aligning it and measuring several times...



Next was to get the side apron back on and aligned...



Stole the old mans radiator take make sure it would go back in and put a few more welds in place...



Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 10/30/07 01:53 AM

Once i had that double checked i got the bottom part of it on and everything is in line and bolts up now problems...




Still have some welds to be made but here it is rebuilt



This is quite the experience for me as i have never done any welding or bodywork for myself. I would encourage others to get out there and try it, im starting to learn techniques and improve my skills with every weld and piece i do!
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 11/04/07 07:07 PM

An exciting update for the project today...

Went to the local junkyard to check out the two 71 chargers that the owner had there. This one had a nice cowl which we need badly and was the easiest to get out, so we went ahead and bought it for $300.

Here she is sitting back in rough...


Got her loaded on the trailer, wish i had been able to snap a picture of the car 10 feet in the air with the forks through her roof


Now were home and let the strip down begin!
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 11/04/07 07:10 PM

I went out scavenging the yard and found complete 72 charger flip front end that has some damage to the out bezel but can be repaired. Also found a complete rear bumper assembly for the car. Picked up both of these for a total of $75.



The car had literally 6-8 inches of water inside and had carpet to boot, not the funnest part dealing with the nasty stuff inside...
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 11/04/07 07:16 PM

The kicker in the whole project once what we found once we had it stripped out and used the wet vac. Seriously one of the biggest shocks ive ever had from a junkyard find





MINT floors and trunk, there is a little pitting in the trunk but this is much better off that what we had. I think we just saved a lot of money on floor and trunk repair
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 11/04/07 07:20 PM

After all the fun it was time to get the car ready to be drilled into sections we will use! Pulled the motor, carefully removed the car from the trailer with jacks, then get her in place to be taken apart!






At home next to the bee!

Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 11/04/07 08:51 PM

its about time we start seeing some updates on this car, im anxiously waiting everytime i see new updates, keep up the great work man!
Posted By: 1972CudaV21

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 11/04/07 09:33 PM

You guys got lots of spirit!
Posted By: Fabman

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 11/04/07 11:30 PM

Nice finds Steve !!! ..
Posted By: JDMopar

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 11/05/07 12:42 AM

Wow....y'all mugged that guy for $300 on that one. Lots of good parts on there you can use.You're gonna have to bust tail to get done in time,but you can do it. Good luck
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 11/22/07 11:05 AM

Happy Thanksgiving everyone...

Thanks for all the support guys! Yes looking at it now we did absolutely great for $300. The floors are great and there is a complete set of seatbealts, and tons of brackets and extra bolts (always come in handy).

Making some good progress on the parts car deconstruction...Drilled out the inner fenders since we are going to resale everything we dont use to help fund the project...


Then the cowl we drilled out...Man this piece is nice...



Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 11/22/07 11:09 AM

Since we needed a complete front floor and the two pans behind i figured id do them all in one shoot(very big piece)...





After drilling out all those spot welds i need to do it again on the super bee Let me tell you i have to give a lot of credit to moparmarks on this board who sells sheetmetal. I dont know how you sell the stuff so cheap after all the labor involved

Have a good Turkey day and im sure well get lots done over the 5 day break
Posted By: DynoDave

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 11/22/07 01:55 PM

That's an awesome project. And you scored big time with that donor car. Keep up the good work!
Posted By: Fabman

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 11/22/07 02:16 PM

Drilling spot welds IS NOT fun......

Who's (manufacturer) bit are you using to drill the welds?

Keep at it...looks good.

Nice to have the room to work.....
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 11/22/07 05:10 PM

Yes i would have to agree mark I'm using the blair cutters, work great but are expensive Happy Turkey day guys!
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 11/25/07 06:48 AM

Alright guys got the cowl pulled off the super bee and boy its not looking good, looks like im going to have to snag the firewall off that parts car too, take a look for yourself







Posted By: Hotwheelsjr

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 11/25/07 06:50 AM

Yuck...I'm glad I live in the southwest.
Posted By: Fabman

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 11/25/07 12:53 PM

That sucks Steve.......

lots of more work there....
Posted By: DynoDave

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 11/25/07 03:14 PM

That sucks. But fortunately, you have the parts to fix it.

FYI. I know you mentioned selling some parts from the donor car to help fund this project. There was a member asking in the tech area if anyone had some door hinges for sale (rebuildable cores). I steered him this way.
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 11/26/07 06:27 PM

Yes it really does suck to find out we need to do the firewall. There is no easy way to do it with the inner fenders on the bee. I got the firewall off the parts car last night and its much better than the junk thats on the bee, the metal is a little thing by the heater venter but thats to be expected from the moisture hitting that unprotected metal over a 36 year range!





Posted By: scatpacktom

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 11/26/07 06:35 PM

If those front rails are any good and you aren't going to need them I'll buy them from you.Otherwise nice job
Posted By: DUFFMAN

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 11/26/07 06:46 PM

Dang! Is there going to be any original metal left?
Posted By: 1972CudaV21

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 11/26/07 07:04 PM

Looks like the BarrelCuda!

If it was me, I'd be throwing in the towel - I respect your motivation!
Posted By: QuickBpBp

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 11/26/07 09:44 PM

It's a shame for that 71 parts car to end up the way it did...the qtrs were so nice...Until someone took a torch to cut off the perfect rustfree pieces and used them as patches... Glad to see someone can use the bulk of it and got it out of there in one piece. I got some pieces off of it about 6-7 months ago...
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 11/26/07 11:35 PM

Quote:

It's a shame for that 71 parts car to end up the way it did...the qtrs were so nice...Until someone took a torch to cut off the perfect rustfree pieces and used them as patches... Glad to see someone can use the bulk of it and got it out of there in one piece. I got some pieces off of it about 6-7 months ago...

Even sader, i know the guy that did it for his charger. And it gets better, he gave up on the project because his front end was rusted out. Now its just sitting
Posted By: JonsGottaDusta

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 11/27/07 12:03 AM

Looking good Steve! You are really shredding that car up. Wanna come help me replace the tail panel on the Demon??

- Jon
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 11/29/07 03:07 AM

Jon, you pay for the ticket im there I love cali!

So more progress and this time on the bee. Drilled the cowl out and the brackets that go from the inner fener to cowl to frame rail to make the most room to get it out without taking apart the front end, and with about an inch of play i actually did get it off!





Now we just gotta clean up the seems and then spray some weld through primer on and put the new cowl on, havent decided when im going to do with the pillars yet, the ones on the parts car are really nice but i was thinking of just making some metal to put in instead of doing the whole pillar. Yet to be decided...

Steve
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 11/29/07 04:11 AM

hey guys this is ryan the other kid in the project with steve. im a novice in the mopar world but am starting to learn alot. We have been putting alot of time into the car and hopefully all will work out come next summer : ]
Posted By: 71383beep

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 11/29/07 04:46 AM

Wow that is a heck of a project. But it is a worthy cause.

There is just something fun about saying..."no it's not a charger, it's a Super Bee". Of course the next question is about where the wing is!

Cool car though. Have you givin any thought to color and engine choice yet? Sorry if this was covered earlier BTW.
Posted By: 69bronzeT5

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 11/29/07 04:54 PM

Quote:

As you know the more you take away the rustier they get






Believe me, I've learned that too. I'm another young gun with a big project and a small budget. Here's my info.

The Project: Completely Restore a 1969 Charger with a budget of 10k

The Crew: One 15 year old; Cody

The Goal: Have the car completely done for senior prom in 3 years. I'm in gr.10 right now

Basic Info: I'm gonna attempt to restore my Charger in a period of 3 years with very little skills when it comes to cars and dodgecharger.com backing me up.

The Car: Originally a 318, now a 383 auto. Rusty quarters, front floor pans, torsion bar crossremember, rear valance and left rear frame rail. I basically got all the parts except for the windshield and a few interior things. Of course, I need alot of new sheetmetal. Colour scheme is going to be silver with a black R/T stripe and the original rare black C5X/C21 interior.

I'm in phase 2......disassembly. Its hopefully gonna go to the bodyshop in Spring 2008.



Keep up the good work on your Superbee guys!!!

-Cody
Posted By: Devil

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 11/29/07 05:04 PM

Quote:

hey guys this is ryan the other kid in the project with steve. im a novice in the mopar world but am starting to learn alot. We have been putting alot of time into the car and hopefully all will work out come next summer : ]



With you guys fixing up that car, I should have saved alot of the cars in the junkyards I've found!

That's a good thing though, it is really cool that you guys are getting stuff done on it. I hope to have my project done by the summer of 08.

Good luck

Ryan
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 11/30/07 03:27 AM

Thanks guys! I think were planning on going with white for the color since it is our first paint job it will be a more easier colors to paint, plus thats the original color!

I was going to replace the whole pillar until i saw how they are attached. Then decided to cut drill off and then cut where needed. Heres the pieces and will hopefully get the passenger side in tomorrow, the drivers side need more metal underneath






Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/03/07 02:14 AM

Got the passenger side pillar fixed up with the donor piece. I got a few welds on it, just enough to hold it in place. It fits good and is much better than the old piece. It took a lot of time fitting this piece up and making sure i didnt take away to much!





Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/04/07 03:57 AM

Hey guys pulled the drivers pillar area off to get more into the restoration of the pillar



Here is the piece i cut off the other car. Its a little better dont you think?


Striped down the area to find the spot welds better and found a nice surprise



Heres the new piece, i just need to trim it and then weld it in!




Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/04/07 11:45 PM

Hey guys got some more done today since i did not work. I got the replacement inner pillar all aligned and welded on, then cleaned up the surfaces and prepped it with some weld through primer. Then i aligned and placed the exterior part of the pillar on. Its ready to go and just needs to be welded up.





Posted By: DusterKrazy

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/05/07 01:47 AM

Cool! Im doing a similar budget build on '70 charger. I have sold enough parts off the car that I wont be using to help keep the costs down.
Good luck with your project! Our crew consists of me (25) and best friend John (24).. We wished we had a garage though, all we have is a patch of concrete and welder, a small wallet and high hopes!
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/07/07 03:11 AM

Alright guys got the pillar welded up and on. Put the cowl in and it fits like a glove, lines right up with the spot weld holes i drilled (which makes me feel good)! Its in and its going to need a little more work and then i can weld it in and move onto the cowl!




Posted By: DynoDave

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/07/07 03:08 PM

Those pillars are MUCH improved. You're doing nice work!
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/08/07 10:47 PM

Hey guys got a little more work done! Its coming along pretty good. We picked up another crew member, my friend Greg who is also 17...



My welds are getting better the more i weld, they use to be large golbs, i think im starting to get the hang of it...



Ryan took apart the doors off the donor car for the internal parts, which we had none of


Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/08/07 10:49 PM

Today i got the firewall area that is covered up by the cowl striped and the same with the back of the cowl. Best to stop the rust now! Just have to do a little dolly work to the cowl and its ready to be placed in!



Posted By: 500Stroker

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/09/07 01:19 AM

Looking good. Great job
Posted By: JonsGottaDusta

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/09/07 01:58 AM

Lookin' great Steve... keep up the good work!
Posted By: QuickBpBp

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/09/07 03:36 AM

If I remember those doors were clean and complete on that car why not just use those doors??
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/09/07 02:25 PM

Quote:

If I remember those doors were clean and complete on that car why not just use those doors??


The doors are clean pieces. But it doesnt matter, either way the internals need to come out to be cleaned up and greased up. Were trying to make it a half decent restoration by restoring all the mechanical stuff too. Its still in the air which doors we will use. I have to look over the original doors more carefully before i decide!
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/11/07 01:59 AM

Got the cowl on about 1/3 of welds plugged up!


Glad i had the cowl off to clean up behind there! Sure looks better than pitted metal huh?


Its starting to look like a car again!

Posted By: sunroofgtx

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/11/07 04:02 AM

Dude, coming along.. Prom is only 5 months away !! Better get busy !!! Plus, you gottas cruise the Bee to get the righteous chicks...
Posted By: Devil

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/11/07 04:36 AM

Man o man, you guys are really moving. I'm about 90% done with my project, and you guys will STILL probably beat me!

Keep up the good work!

Ryan
Posted By: EWJ

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/11/07 05:37 AM

Nice job guys!

Keep up the great work.
Posted By: bigsexy440

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/11/07 07:50 PM

This is so great...keep rockin' young dudes!
Posted By: DynoDave

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/12/07 01:05 AM

That cowl is coming out nice. Welds are looking good too. Like most everything in life, the old adage "practice makes perfect" applies.

"Ryan took apart the doors off the donor car for the internal parts, which we had none of".

It's awesome having help. Just be sure fasteners and small parts get bagged and tagged.
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/13/07 03:33 AM

Thanks for the support guys! It really gets us going especially Ryan and Greg! I did a little more today but nothing worthy of pictures, just took out about half the floor. Hopefully ill have the whole thing out by friday since i work tommorrow and dont friday!

Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/14/07 03:27 AM

Hey guys got the floor out today! The rails are actually good in all areas much to my surprise and im very thankful for that! Its much easier to cut the floor away than to try and drill the whole thing!





I'm going to have to trim the new pan for the 4 speed first but where can i get the template and a 4 speed hump? Anyone got a spare?
Posted By: GTX MATT

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/14/07 03:51 AM

Hey guys, im 17 too and like what youre doing. If I were closer Id give you a hand but im not. Im a Mechanics guy, not body. Thats why im selling my car to buy a car thats more solid. Im parting a '67 Satellite though with 10 inch drums and an 8 3/4. Dont know what you guys need but I'd give you some parts if you can use anything I have. I'd like to have a car in nice shape by my senior prom too!

IDK if you guys need an engine, but I think I can hook you up with what should be a strong running 440 for 800 bucks. Would have to go to VA though.

If you get an engine close to you though and cant get her running, I'd lend a hand if youre not like 7 hours away. I went 7 hours for the GTX and never again unless its for a four speed car lol.
Posted By: scatpacktom

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/14/07 01:02 PM

I have a section of floor you could use as a template.
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/16/07 07:26 AM

GTX MATT - Thanks for the info, we got a 383 that runs from a 70 C-body (date code correct ) Well see what she looks like with a basic overlook, and if comes down to borrowing the 440 i sold my dad we can, its a strong runnin 600hp motor

scatpacktom - Thanks but i just remembered that at the local yard there is a 4 speed hump in whats left of a 70 challenger ragtop. Im gonna snag that this week! I also forgot to get back to you on the frame rails, my dad actually is going to be using them for his car so sorry! But thanks a lot!

Here is the damaged area on the drivers lower A pillar


This same area was rotted on the donor car so i took a piece off the old pillar and did a little fabrication to make it fit, looks decent, not perfect by hey, you gotta use what you got


Cleaned and then primered up the frame rails while the floor was out!


Since i replaced the whole front end and the lips were bent when removing the cowl i put the dash in to just make sure it was flush and in line, all turned out good so i guess are measurements are good!


I'm going to add a project summary when we buy/sell parts for now on to keep you guys updated on the budget part...

Expenses:
Car Cost - $1500
Deck lid (thanks to moparmarks) - $100
Front Grilles (thanks to moparmarks - $50
Sidemarkers (4) - $60
383/727 combo - $300
Parts Car - $300
F/R Bumpers - $75

Total - $2385

Sold/unused items:
Front Frame Rails - $500

Grand Total - $1885


Posted By: 69bronzeT5

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/16/07 07:41 AM

Quote:

Expenses:
Car Cost - $1500
Deck lid (thanks to moparmarks) - $100
Front Grilles (thanks to moparmarks - $50
Sidemarkers (4) - $60
383/727 combo - $300
Parts Car - $300
F/R Bumpers - $75

Driving a beautiful Mopar after all your hard work - PRICELESS!



I changed it up abit . Looks great! Keep up the good work!!! You guys are moving along at a steady rate! My project is dead in the water until Spring.
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/16/07 05:35 PM

69bronzeT5 - I agree with your new chart I cant wait until we have the thing moving on its own power, right now its just getting past the sheetmetal phase and then it will feel real good. I'm happy to say that with about have the work done it feels good
Posted By: new bee

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/17/07 01:28 AM

Nice work lads!
It is really cool to see you tackling a really tough job. You will walk away knowing more about these cars than a lot of us (well, certainly more than I).
Keep the pics coming. If I can find something to donate, I will let you know.
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/17/07 02:16 AM

Thanks New Bee! Did a little more work, nothing special, just cleaned and prepped the rest of the area that will be covered when the floor goes in...



Since i dont have anything else to do in that area until i get the four speed hump and trim the floor i moved onto getting the dutchman ready to go in. Removed the parts of the speaker tray, quarter panels, and gutters and now its ready to go in after we do the trunk floor...



Since the drivers side gutter is pretty rough im gonna try and fab something out of this piece of dutchman panel off the parts car



Posted By: bschargerse

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/17/07 12:20 PM

looking good Steve.
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/20/07 02:00 AM

Thanks Brian!

Havent been able to do much with out the hump and me working so much but so good news is we got in the order from dantes! Ordered a complete interior, trunk floor and extensions! Heres some pics...



I know lots of people are speculation on how they fit so i will let you know! Hopefully by the new year! Since we got this stuff here is the new project cost update...


Expenses:
Car Cost - $1500
Deck lid (thanks to moparmarks) - $100
Front Grilles (thanks to moparmarks - $50
Sidemarkers (4) - $60
383/727 combo - $300
Parts Car - $300
F/R Bumpers - $75
Trunk Floor - $230.85
Trunk Extensions - $150.48
Complete Interior kit - $626.72
Shipping for above three - $79.35

Total - $3472.40

Sold/unused items:
Front Frame Rails - $500

Grand Total - $2972.40


Posted By: bschargerse

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/20/07 02:23 AM

I saw your price list in your post. I didn't know you were looking for an engine, I have a date coded '71 383HP, what year is the one you picked up?
Posted By: new bee

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/20/07 03:00 AM

Man, this is quickly becoming my favorite thread.
Have you guys picked a color yet? White's great for your first paint job, but there are some really cool colors to consider. My choices, if it were my car, would include curious yellow or vitamin C.
Still, white would be pretty sharp.
Any idea what wheels you will use?
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/20/07 03:24 AM

Brain - I think its a 69 or 70, not really sure, alls i know is we had it running out of gas in a 5 gallon jug, and that is all i know, but im pretty sure its on of those years...

new bee -Thanks! Well there was lots of factors behind it being white such as a great color for the first paint job and it being its original color but after some thought i think we are steering away from white. After all we did change the trans to a 4 gear and we dont have anything except for the VIN and body numbers so we might as well make it what we want. I think black would be awesome even though its tough to paint. But hey this is our first restoration and any dealings with bodywork so i think well just go big or home with the paint too. A huge benefit that we will have when it comes to painting will be that i am interning in the spring at the same old school guy that painted my dads hemi. The guy is an incredible artist and will help show me some more imperfections in the body that i wont see and show me the best techniques to paint the car. The plan is to use his spray area also but have myself operation the gun with his help. So thats what we have so far
Posted By: GTX MATT

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/20/07 03:45 AM

I wish I had the metal working skills that you guys have. Thats crap scares me, thats why im selling the GTX to buy a solid car, have one in mind. Needs no rust repaired, even if I did it I think I'd drive myself crazy making sure the lines are straight.

You guys are doing a great job. Are you guys in liek a technical high school for it or have you just picked it up from your dad/family/friends?
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/20/07 01:56 PM

GTX MATT - Thanks for the compliments! This is actually the first time we are dealing with metal. My dad was never into it either, we had to purchase a welders, compressor and run the lines to do all this. We never took any bodywork or metal work classes, just picked up the air tools, welder, and hammer and dolly and teaching yourself. I've read lots of Mopar Muscle articles in their tech section and watched a lot of american hot rod. Thats been my tutorial but really the best way to learn is to do it yourself. I teach myself new techniques every day when working on the car! So don't be scared because if were doing something like this with no prior experiences, anything can be done.
Posted By: 69bronzeT5

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/20/07 08:27 PM

I agree, you guys have some great metalworking skills! It looks like the car is coming along great!!!!

I've had people tell me to get a small welder and start doing my '69 but I'm not going to...I'd probally cut the wrong thing off or screw up something, I know it!
Posted By: 70Coronet500Vert

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/20/07 08:52 PM

Quote:

I'd probally cut the wrong thing off or screw up something, I know it!



Well ya got a welder, put it back on!

Posted By: monoptn

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/20/07 11:31 PM

Where in the world did you get a complete interior kit for $600? Are you talking new? Repop panels, carpet, seat covers, headliner?
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/20/07 11:55 PM

69bronzeT5 - Thanks for the compliments guys but i cant stress enough that our "skills" have been gained by just starting in on the project. Its something that you have to perfect. The skills are nothing near these body shops. If you need to save money TRY it yourself! Looking at it and the hours into it i know this car could not have been done for less that 15k in body/sheetmetal work

monoptn - The kit consist of front rear seat covers, headliner, the insulation behind it, and the carpet. Got it from Dantes Mopar Parts (advertises here on the site). Keep in mind i got 15% off for a holiday and mass order sale.
Posted By: 69bronzeT5

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/21/07 04:57 AM

Quote:

Quote:

I'd probally cut the wrong thing off or screw up something, I know it!



Well ya got a welder, put it back on!





Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/21/07 07:54 AM

Got a little more work done today and determined that replacing trunk floors and trunk extensions is absolutely horrible! A true pain! Here is the trunk before any work was done...



I got some of the drivers side out but there are SO many spot welds and they are in the most agonizing position to have to drill!


When taking the wheel off found some more rust, Yippe!


Does anyone know if you have to pull these brackets off to remove the floor? I am guessing yes because the rail runs right under them and there are most likely spotwelds there...


Heres the car as she sits, been awhile since i posted a full car shot



Posted By: DynoDave

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/22/07 04:31 AM

That trunk floor sure is a piece of swiss cheese. The rails look pretty good though.
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/23/07 04:50 AM

DynoDave - Its unbelievable how the cars rust! The trunk is swiss cheese, even on top of the frame rails and the rails are still solid. Its crazy to see but a huge relief on our part! Last thing we need is to break into some frame replacement with the time frame we are trying to beat!
Posted By: JonGottaDemonDad

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/23/07 05:19 AM

Thats looking great Steve!
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/23/07 06:04 PM

Thanks! I am extremely annoyed right now as my spot weld cutters threads just sheared right off! I have a back up rotabroach but i only have one bit! Go figure over christmas break something like this would happen and just in time for the local supplier to be closed for the holidays!!!! Updates wont be a rapid as i thought Happy Holidays everyone!
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/25/07 05:06 AM

Merry Christmas Everyone!

Got some more work done tonight on the Bee! Had a victory dance after pulling these two bad boys off!!!



Now i can finally get into the rest of the trunk!




Once i had those off i completely took out the rest of the trunk on the drivers side and the extension...


I was test fitting the new metal and its going to need quite a bit of test fitting to make it fit perfect. Also noticed how bad the upper quarter is rotted


Let me tell you, this trunk floor, trunk extension is the most annoying pain in the butt project on the car...I have countless hours into it and the new metal will take a lot of time to get right too

But hope your all having a good christmas!
Posted By: JDMopar

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/25/07 05:32 AM

Merry Christmas to you as well. I hope Santa brings you some new spot weld cutters and a ton more patience! You're doing a great job,so keep up the good work.Looks like you might be able to patch that upper quarter if that's the only bad place.Also,you MIGHT be able to get the new one piece trunk floor in by removing one of the braces coming down from the package tray area to the inner wheelhouse.It looks like you could possibly wiggle it in there,since you already have the package tray and X braces out of the way.It would be easier than removing the tail light panel or a quarter panel if it will work. Good luck,and I admire your enthusiasm.
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/27/07 07:17 AM

WANTED/NEEDED 4 speed hump!!!

JDMopar - I hear that, i wish santa would have brought some parts that were in need of but oh well.

Went to the local mopar yard today and found some stuff well be snagging for the car, and sadly the 4 speed hump i thought was there is gone

This car has a dual horn setup, front headlight harness, and windshield were gonna grab, tommarrow hopefully...




Since the car was a rear defrosted car and i have the switch and all the wiring i grabbed this super nice one of a 71 340 road runner for $20!




Expenses:
Car Cost - $1500
Deck lid (thanks to moparmarks) - $100
Front Grilles (thanks to moparmarks - $50
Sidemarkers (4) - $60
383/727 combo - $300
Parts Car - $300
F/R Bumpers - $75
Trunk Floor - $230.85
Trunk Extensions - $150.48
Complete Interior kit - $626.72
Shipping for above three - $79.35
Rear defrost unit - $20

Total - $3492.40

Sold/unused items:
Front Frame Rails - $500

Grand Total - $2992.40


Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/27/07 07:27 AM

After i got home from the yard i did a little work after taking a nice nap! The rear quarters are going to need patched and i started on the passenger side since i already have its trunk extension out of the way. Someone had already patched it but im not pleased with the patch and call me anal but i want everything butt welded...


Im going to do a series of patches to keep the body lines as best a i can, if i had metal working machines it would be easier but this will do. Started but making a template for the lip...


Used the inner fenders off the parts metal for patching, here is is roughly cut...


After some more grinding i got it to a point i am happy with...


Then i made a template for the second patch panel of the bodyline lip...


Tomorrow i want to have all the patch panels cut and possibly tack them in
Posted By: 69bronzeT5

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/27/07 07:50 AM

What kind of car is at the junkyard?
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/27/07 08:01 AM

Quote:

What kind of car is at the junkyard?



Its a 71 charger
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/27/07 10:51 PM

Well some exciting news so far today! Went back to the mopar yard and ended up buying another parts car It was a 72 charger 400 loaded to the bone car(was). Its rear end has been suspended off the ground for years resulting in a good trunk, trunk extensions and wheel tubs! Originally i was just going for the wheel tubs but after removing all the gross stuff we bought the car!




Here she is being hulled up front, gotta come back tomorrow with a trailer as i wasnt planning on buying a car!




And for the most exciting part of the day, i found a next to MINT dashpad. It has been out of the sun for who knows how long as it was in a car right next to the charger! The only defect is two tiny holes that were drilled, but that can easily be fixed! This thing is still soft and crackless!!! Oh and it was only $25




Expenses:
Car Cost - $1500
Deck lid (thanks to moparmarks) - $100
Front Grilles (thanks to moparmarks - $50
Sidemarkers (4) - $60
383/727 combo - $300
Parts Car - $300
F/R Bumpers - $75
Trunk Floor - $230.85
Trunk Extensions - $150.48
Complete Interior kit - $626.72
Shipping for above three - $79.35
Rear defrost unit - $20
Parts Car (second one) - $125
Dash Pad - $25

Total - $3642.40

Sold/unused items:
Front Frame Rails - $500

Grand Total - $3142.40


Posted By: GTX MATT

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/27/07 11:21 PM

Hey do they have any 66 or 67 Plymouth B bodies there? Whats the name/ where is it located?

Youve inspired me to keep going on the GTX, whether I sell it or not. Im getting ready to yank the engine and paint it its original color and clean up the engine bay now!

You guys are still doing a great job, you got right into that thing and tore it right up!

What are you planning to do for paint when the time comes?
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/28/07 04:04 AM

Its a local yard here in PA. There isnt much on that end a few but not too too much. If you want more details PM me...

We are going to go with black as the color, black on black with the flat black stripes will look great in my opinion!
Posted By: Hotwheelsjr

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/28/07 04:10 AM

WOW!! You STOLE that dash pad!!
Posted By: Devil

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/28/07 04:32 AM

Haha, you are going to have enough parts cars to make another entire car soon! If you come out to IL, I'll show you some more post 71 B-bodies you can pick some stuff up from!

Ryan
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/28/07 05:08 PM

Hotwheelsjr I am always rummaging through cars and vans to find parts that people "Hide for later" and forgot about in the past 30 years! The yard owner is a great guy and we've been doing business with him for as long as i can remember. When i find rare stuff tucked away hes always good to me and gives me the 80's value of the stuff! Great guy and i know this project would never have been able to be completed without his help, heck half the metal on the car came from his yard

Devil Well as you know its better to have a lot of extras parts then to have nothing at all. I would love to come out there and go junkyarding with yourself, its such a rush in my mind. I cant get enough of it
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/29/07 11:31 PM

Hey guys! Went and got the parts car and here she is before and then after we cut her in half. We will be installing the trunk, trunk extensions, and tailpanel out of this car as a one piece unit to save on the pain of dealing with the new not so perfect sheetmetal...




I also started in on the quarter panel patching. As seen above there was some patching in a previous lift but i really did not like it and call me anal but i want it all butt welded. Here you can see the 5 piece design coming together. I am doing the five piece design to help keep the body lines as sharp as possible, and the second fact of not really having metal working tools. The five parts incase your wondering are the lower flange that attaches to the trunk extension, the wheel lip, the body lines that goes over the wheel lip, the lower quarter body lines, and the upper quarter body line!





Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/30/07 08:50 AM

finished off the quarter for the most part, still have a few more welds to make and some more grinding to do but it all came together pretty well! You can see pieces four and five being laying into place and then the almost final product! I feel accomplished for just fabricating that lower quarter, i know its nothing big but hey its still cool in my eyes!







Posted By: FuryUs

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/30/07 01:48 PM

You're doing a great job! Keep the updates coming.
Posted By: LilRedDave

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/30/07 03:47 PM

I can't believe you cut a convertable Charger up . Love following along by the way. Keep up the good work guys.
Posted By: 1968 Charger B5

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/30/07 04:43 PM

Nice job. I myself am around your age, being 23, and its tough trying afford the parts. Nicely done and good luck. I wish I had my car done for prom in high school!


Rick
Posted By: SilverFrost Cuda

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/30/07 05:54 PM

How did the dash pad clean up?
Posted By: chargervert

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/30/07 07:02 PM

Quote:

I can't believe you cut a convertable Charger up . Love following along by the way. Keep up the good work guys.



Yeah,what were you guys thinking,cutting up a Charger convertible! Those things are really rare! Nice work guys on the project. My 13 year old son just started on his 68 Charger. I'm gonna have him check out your thread! Hopefully it will inspire him!
Posted By: cudaboy340

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/30/07 07:23 PM

Steve and company are doing a great job and I applaud them for their efforts! In fact, I'm so impressed by their work and dedication that I have invited them to be the featured Young Guns at Carlisle this coming July. Finished or not, you'll be able to see their work in person at the All-Chrysler Nationals. Keep up the great work!

Ed
Posted By: hotairballoonpilot

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/30/07 07:29 PM

Just started following this one. I did the same thing except not as extensive work to my 72 duster. I did it in high school auto body class and did the motor at home. Got it back put together by may 15th for my prom on the 16th. Had to skip school on the 15th with a buddy to finish it. We even got our mom's to call us in sick. The bad thing is we forgot to buy tickets and had to go to school to get them. We went in the back door thinking we'd get in and out and still be safe. Nope got busted and spent 2 saturday mornings in detention for it! Was worth it though! Spent the summer driving the car until oct 4th when I was cruising/trying to find someone to race. We had the air cleaner off. The car back fired melted the plastic fuel filter(note to self after that NEVER BUY PLASTIC!) and burned up the front half of the car. Melted the sharktooth grille but barely damaged the scoops! Good for me the fire station was 1 block away!
So long story short LEARN FROM ME PLEASE!

Keep up the great work and posts you are doing a great job! Good luck meeting your deadline!

Corey
Posted By: chargervert

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/30/07 07:31 PM

I wonder if that Charger was a sunroof car,and thats why the roof was cut off. Check the top of the wheelwells in the rear,and where the door hinges bolt to the body for drain holes. If there are drain holes,than it was a sunroof car.
Posted By: Sunroofcuda

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/30/07 08:32 PM

Steve & Ryan, do you need a rust-free LH 1/4 lower patch (behind the wheel) that I have been saving since the early 80's? I was going to use it on my '71 Hemi Charger which burned to oblivion in 1984. This patch has perfect contours, is rust-free, & is about the bottom 15" or so of the behind the wheel area of the driver's quarter.

I just started reading this thread - very cool.

-Eric
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/31/07 01:22 AM

SilverFrost Cuda - Heres the pad after an armoral cleaning. For $25 its perfect, 3 dimples in it and two small holes to fill...


Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/31/07 01:25 AM

cudaboy340 -Ed, thanks for the invite, we are really pumped about being featured at Carlisle, been attending for awhile and now we will be part of it!


chargervert -I checked for the holes and they are there, im thinking the car was a dealer promo car or something, it had power windows and everything.

Only got a little done today, just pulled the old trunk extension out!




Posted By: SilverFrost Cuda

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/31/07 01:25 AM

Posted By: chargervert

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/31/07 01:59 AM

Not only are you guy kickin azz on that project,your showing people that it can be done affordably! You guys have had tremendous luck finding nice sheetmetal,for reasonable prices. It's gonna be a cool ride when it's done. I think I saw your Challenger in the last row of the vendor area at Carlsile,last summer.
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/31/07 05:35 PM

chargervert -Thanks, Yes we have had very good luck with finding sheetmetal. I have to say that normally we dont find as many good deals as we have but hey, the mopar people must know what we are trying to accomplish here. I still have lots of parts to sell from the parts car to bring the cost down even more.

You did see my challenger there, next to moparmarks sheetmetal stand. I put some absurd price on it just for laughs to see if anyone would pay that for the heep Never would sell it though, nor this car
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/01/08 12:10 AM

Since i dont have a hump and always thought that the floor was completely cutout i stayed away from putting it in. Well i went to look under my shaker car and saw that the floor is still there over the frame which would have been the problem installing it. So i decided that we'll install the floor now and if we can locate an original hump cut it after. So here is the floor stripped of surface rust and primered it up with some weld through primer. Layed it in and it fits like a glove





No i just have ohh say 100 or so welds to plug before it can call it done, i did about four but i have to get ready for new years tonight


Anyone have a 4 speed hump? Let me know what you need to get for it if so
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/06/08 12:57 AM

Hey guys! Havent been able to do much beside plug holes on the floor, so its nothing work taking pictures of, but i did go to the yard and pick up a pair of dual horns and front wiring harness for $25.

I've never posted a picture of the future drivetrain but here it is.



Here is the stuff we picked up, oh and forgot to say i sold the rails off the parts car for another $500!


Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/06/08 03:07 AM

So you were not happy with the fit of the repo trunk floor? I didn't even know that one was available now for these cars. What were the issues you had with it if you don't mind me asking? Looks like it is a 2 piece, is this correct? Thanks. Nice work by the way.
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/06/08 05:43 PM

Yes the trunk floor is a two piece and it wasnt that i wasnt happy with the fit, its just that i found this original trunk floor and extensions when i went for the wheel tubs, and nothings better than an original. I dont know how the repo floor would fit but i can say that i know the trunk extensions with take quite a bit of work.
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/08/08 03:59 AM

With the new rear half inside i got a little done on its deconstruction. I'm trying to take advantage of this warm weather since there is no heat in the barn. But I drilled out quarter end on the drivers side, and the quarter end and trunk gutter on the passenger for replacement of the bee's...





Here is what i have done to the clip, im trying to decide the best way to install and what to take off and use from the bee. Its a tough call but the only thing i am sure of is i will keep the trunk and trunk extensions together!



An update of the expenses, sold some stuff, bought some...




Expenses:
Car Cost - $1500
Deck lid (thanks to moparmarks) - $100
Front Grilles (thanks to moparmarks - $50
Sidemarkers (4) - $60
383/727 combo - $300
Parts Car - $300
F/R Bumpers - $75
Trunk Floor - $230.85
Trunk Extensions - $150.48
Complete Interior kit - $626.72
Shipping for above three - $79.35
Rear defrost unit - $20
Parts Car (second one) - $150
Dash Pad - $25
Dual Horns and Front Wiring Harness - $25

Total - $3692.40

Sold/unused items:
Front Frame Rails - $500
Front Frame Rails(second parts car set) - $500
Grand Total - $2692.40


Posted By: chargervert

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/08/08 04:07 AM

I bet your getting pretty sick of drilling out spotwelds!
Posted By: QuickBpBp

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/09/08 02:04 AM

Quote:


chargervert -I checked for the holes and they are there, im thinking the car was a dealer promo car or something, it had power windows and everything.





Yes it was a sunroof car,It also had a tilt column in it...
Car is coming along nice,keep up the good work
Sorry to hear that the new trunk floors sound like a better than nothing type of product...
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/09/08 03:54 AM

Quote:

I bet your getting pretty sick of drilling out spotwelds!


To say the least. I drilled out a lot more but wont post pics until i get the whole assembly that i will be using off the clip!
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/10/08 04:32 AM

Got the trunk floor out, Finally! Heres some pics of the assembly and how it will be installed after a little metal work...


The trunk extensions are not perfect as i saw when bought but the top halfs of them are excellent. What i am going to do it take metal from the reproduction pieces or the original to make it a good solid part.




The only thing i did do which i expect what make a mess when removing those stupid brackets that go from the trunk to the tailpanel, its a easy fix as its all flat surface!



Posted By: Devil

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/10/08 05:38 AM

Quote:

Devil Well as you know its better to have a lot of extras parts then to have nothing at all. I would love to come out there and go junkyarding with yourself, its such a rush in my mind. I cant get enough of it



Oh yeah, nothing like going through a new yard. Never knowing what is lying in the next pile.

Look in the Bushnell folder of my Cars in Barns albums. Quite a few 71-74 b-bodies in there....




Ryan
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/11/08 03:41 AM

Devil There are quite of few cars in there, and complete at that. You lucky to find half those parts on the yards i go to.

Did a little work to get the trunk assembly ready to go in. First was to repair the drivers side trunk extension. Cut the new reproduction piece for patches. I know some of you may thank that is nuts but its much easier considering the fitment of those pieces is not very good. It would take a lot more to make then fit than to patch. Plus its good practice!


Here is the lower patch, as you can see the holes for the drain plugs are different sizes all together...


Butt welded in place!



The upper lip by the wheel housing needed attention too.



Butt welded in!




I started on the passenger side but its bedtime for me. The repro piece doesnt have the flange so ill have to salvage the one off the original extension...

Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/12/08 02:11 AM

Hey guys! Some exciting news today, got my package from member Sunroofcuda. He Generously donated quarter patch panels for the drivers rear quarter! I cannot thank him enough! Check them out! I cannot wait to put them on...


Also a few of the items that we dont need sold on ebay. If the sellers pay here is the new total...


Expenses:
Car Cost - $1500
Deck lid (thanks to moparmarks) - $100
Front Grilles (thanks to moparmarks - $50
Sidemarkers (4) - $60
383/727 combo - $300
Parts Car - $300
F/R Bumpers - $75
Trunk Floor - $230.85
Trunk Extensions - $150.48
Complete Interior kit - $626.72
Shipping for above three - $79.35
Rear defrost unit - $20
Parts Car (second one) - $150
Dash Pad - $25
Dual Horns and Front Wiring Harness - $25

Total - $3692.40

Sold/unused items:
Front Frame Rails - $500
Front Frame Rails(second parts car set) - $500
Front Grilles - $126
Four Speed Console - $539.99

Grand Total - $2026.41




The budget is coming along great with the resale of these parts! Awesome news considering i was buying a lot of stuff...
Posted By: Challenger 1

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/12/08 02:24 AM

Great metal work!
Posted By: 65pacecar

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/12/08 03:02 AM

Excellent Job and a Great thread. Keep up the great work, you will have a car to be proud of. Are you going to take it to the Nats this year? Should do great in the Young Guns Class.
Posted By: Sunroofcuda

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/12/08 03:20 AM

Steve - glad they arrived in good shape. They were going to go on my old Hemi Charger (see pic.), but that car burned beyond recognition back in Aug. 1984. The rear patch came off a junkyard Charger from Flint, MI. around 1982 - amazingly rust-free. The blue front patch came off a car in an Arizona junkyard in early 1984. I suppose you can put the patches to more use than I - heck I've had them for about 25 years! Time to put them to use.

-Eric

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Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/12/08 03:21 AM

Very nice of you sir.
Posted By: beepsalot

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/12/08 04:29 AM

nice work! let me know what you need for your project, i have some superbee stuff left over from a previous project....trades sound good to me...beeps
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/13/08 02:08 AM

65PaceCar It will be going to the Nats. Does anyone know how they do the judging for the young gun class? Never figured that one out...

Sunroofcuda Eric, Thanks again so much! You are a hero in our eyes That is ashame about that car it looks so nice in that picture.

beepsalot Right now i think i just need some tailight lenses, 4 speed hump, windshield, and some upper interior panels. Let me know!

I've been working on the trunk extensions, no pics yet maybe later tonight. I think i scratched my cornia so im in a little pain right now but i'll bear...

Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/16/08 01:07 AM

Hey guys been kinda busy so i havent been able to get around to posting pictures, finals in school and all, but here is some updates...

First i finished up patching the trunk extensions, butt welded of course...




Then i moved into the rear of the car, where all of the focus is now. I needed to remove this gutter and quarter end as i have replacements from the parts car, and the quarter end on the passenger side as well.






Then in order to do the trunk floor replacement the tail panel needs to come off and in addition is need some metal work, well a lot of it...




Then i cut the quarter down a little bit and marked up the super bee to get a line to cut it out by...




Still have a final tomorrow so i better get going!


Steve
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/16/08 01:24 AM

Here is a budget update, sold some misc small items that were in the trunk and off the parts car...


Expenses:
Car Cost - $1500
Deck lid (thanks to moparmarks) - $100
Front Grilles (thanks to moparmarks - $50
Sidemarkers (4) - $60
383/727 combo - $300
Parts Car - $300
F/R Bumpers - $75
Trunk Floor - $230.85
Trunk Extensions - $150.48
Complete Interior kit - $626.72
Shipping for above three - $79.35
Rear defrost unit - $20
Parts Car (second one) - $150
Dash Pad - $25
Dual Horns and Front Wiring Harness - $25

Total - $3692.40

Sold/unused items:
Front Frame Rails - $500
Front Frame Rails(second parts car set) - $500
Front Grilles - $126
Four Speed Console - $539.99
Misc. Parts in/on Parts car $76.57

Grand Total - $1949.84


Posted By: 68KillerBee

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/16/08 08:49 AM

Quote:

65PaceCar It will be going to the Nats. Does anyone know how they do the judging for the young gun class? Never figured that one out...



what do you wanna know about it? i got mine judged and have the sheet if you wanna see what all the points are for. i loved the nationals, but how it was judged(IMO) sucked. a 71 dart came in a few hours before they gave awards away(a day after they judged cars) and got in the top 4. also i got beat by a 01 neon r/t......in the stock class . the other two cars i got beat by were very nice
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/16/08 02:55 PM

Quote:

Quote:

65PaceCar It will be going to the Nats. Does anyone know how they do the judging for the young gun class? Never figured that one out...



what do you wanna know about it? i got mine judged and have the sheet if you wanna see what all the points are for. i loved the nationals, but how it was judged(IMO) sucked. a 71 dart came in a few hours before they gave awards away(a day after they judged cars) and got in the top 4. also i got beat by a 01 neon r/t......in the stock class . the other two cars i got beat by were very nice



Is there a stock and modified class just like the other classes just refined to young guns only?
Posted By: 69Cuda340S

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/16/08 05:21 PM

Hey Steve,

This is the first time I have seen this thread. But I do remember seeing the car at the Mopar BBQ you had. I am really enjoy the progress shots, looks great so far. My oldest son will be 15 soon and people like you greatly inspire him to restore an old mopar one day.
Posted By: 65pacecar

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/16/08 05:21 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

65PaceCar It will be going to the Nats. Does anyone know how they do the judging for the young gun class? Never figured that one out...



what do you wanna know about it? i got mine judged and have the sheet if you wanna see what all the points are for. i loved the nationals, but how it was judged(IMO) sucked. a 71 dart came in a few hours before they gave awards away(a day after they judged cars) and got in the top 4. also i got beat by a 01 neon r/t......in the stock class . the other two cars i got beat by were very nice



Is there a stock and modified class just like the other classes just refined to young guns only?



I believe they are all lumped together, which is unfortunate. I would at least like to see them have it divided into 1980 and up, and 1979 and down. Its hard for a Muscle Car owned by a young enthusiast to compete against an SRT-4 or Diesel Ram.
I think with the work and effort that your car is receiving it will do well in that class, especially if the paint turns out nice.
Posted By: 68KillerBee

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/16/08 05:38 PM

yup, stock and modified class. all years
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/17/08 01:57 AM

Thanks guys for the info about the Nats! I dont really care if it wins or not i just think its cool to see peoples reactions to your work and craftsmanship. It's the best feeling when people admire YOUR work! I'm extremely exciting about the invite to carlisle. Thats just plain awesome!
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/17/08 03:02 AM

Quote:

Hey Steve,

This is the first time I have seen this thread. But I do remember seeing the car at the Mopar BBQ you had. I am really enjoy the progress shots, looks great so far. My oldest son will be 15 soon and people like you greatly inspire him to restore an old mopar one day.



Bill,

If you come up again you'll get to see her done! Its come a ways since the BBQ huh?
Posted By: 68KillerBee

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/17/08 07:56 PM

Quote:

Thanks guys for the info about the Nats! I dont really care if it wins or not i just think its cool to see peoples reactions to your work and craftsmanship. It's the best feeling when people admire YOUR work! I'm extremely exciting about the invite to carlisle. Thats just plain awesome!



i felt the same way. just couldnt believe that a 01 neon beat out mine and other nice cars.
there was a 71-4 b-body(can't remember what it was) that the guy had to use two cars(like yourself to get his going) but he used the whole front half of one and the back half of the other and welded them together. i couldnt believe it, i mean you couldnt tell at all. hope to see u again this year if i make it up
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/17/08 08:13 PM

Nice to see the young guys who GET it ! No time for video games ! Keep up the great work.This is awesome ! Notice how many people are into the 71 Chargers now ?
Posted By: Gas_Bandit

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/17/08 08:26 PM

Very nice work. I'm 24 and I don't know too many guys my age or younger who do work like you guys are doing
Posted By: cudaboy340

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/17/08 09:13 PM

For those who don't know, I have added a Young Guns class to the Carlisle All-Chrysler Nationals and I strongly encourage the 16-25 crowd to participate. I agree that there needs to be multiple classes for the different cars and I will have that. However, I can't have classes with only a couple of cars in it so PLEASE pre-register for the Young Guns class if you are 16-25 because I will be using the pre-reg data to create classes for this year (since I have no historical data to go by). At the very least I would expect a class for RWD and one for FWD but beyond that it will depend on the pre-reg info. Here's the registration page for anyone who is interested: http://store.carlisleevents.com/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=CE&Category_Code=CANU. Young Guns is about half way down.

Steve & co. - Keep up the great work!! I'll get out to your place to see it soon!

Ed
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/18/08 02:45 PM

Thanks guys for the compliments! Devin I'll be out so im sure ill see you, maybe park next to you...

I'm headed down to the barn to get some stuff done, ill update much later tonight...

Steve
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/21/08 07:17 PM

Hey guys been busy dealing with the purchase of my new daily driver so i havent been able to devote much time to the car however i did today. Cut some cancer out and got ready to finish up the back end...




Since the wheel tub piece i cut had some rust where it would be welded to the new on i cut it out and snagged a piece from high up on the tub to make it fit. Its not too large of a gap to fill so i shouldn't have any serious contour problems etc...
Posted By: 70Coronet500Vert

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/21/08 08:50 PM

You workshop is way too clean with a rusty car sitting around.

Whaddya do, sweep every 1/2 hour?
Posted By: chargervert

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/21/08 11:46 PM

Quote:

You workshop is way too clean with a rusty car sitting around.

Whaddya do, sweep every 1/2 hour?



No,these young guns learn quick! You just keep BARRELS under it to catch all the rust! Then when your done,you try to flip it for astronomical amounts of cash!
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/21/08 11:55 PM

Quote:

Quote:

You workshop is way too clean with a rusty car sitting around.

Whaddya do, sweep every 1/2 hour?



No,these young guns learn quick! You just keep BARRELS under it to catch all the rust! Then when your done,you try to flip it for astronomical amounts of cash!


hmmm world famous barrel bee?
Posted By: chargervert

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/21/08 11:59 PM

Yeah,The BarrelBee! I like it! The only difference,is that these guys are out in the garage,doing all their own work,instead of writing checks,and playing video games! Great work guys!
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/22/08 03:34 AM

Its not nearly as clean as it looks! Trust me its very messy. If i dont sweep the floor the old man yells so i just do it plus it keep you a little cleaner when rolling on the floor. I dont know about the barrel bee but its sure is a big old bucket of rust bee
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/24/08 02:48 AM

Hey guys got some work done today! I finished patching up the wheel tub. I did each side at a time to keep it looking factory. Then i moved on to the quarter. Trimed it up some more and tached it on. Looks pretty good!







Posted By: EWJ

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/24/08 03:52 AM

Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/27/08 08:53 AM

Thanks for the thumbs up! Did a little more tonight/this morning. I pulled the quarter off because what forgot to repair the little holes on the outer wheel tub. Pulled it off fixed them and primered it up...



Then aligned the quarter and welded it on completely...


After the quarter was on i mocked up the other pieces to see if i could actually put them in the way i hoped(together) and they will. Just gotta clean them up and then tack them in and get the trunk floor in and then finalize it...


Seeing it come back together is an awesome feeling. It was depressing looking at the back end cut to pieces and have nothing there at all.
Posted By: RUMBLON

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/27/08 12:59 PM

You guys are doing a GREAT JOB. I have said it before and will say it again, I have a lot of respect for you guys in the rust belts working on these cars. We have such rust free projects out here that I would have never taken on such a rust repair job.

Looks like June is coming, keep up the good work.

LAWFISH
Posted By: FuryUs

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/27/08 09:03 PM

Keep up the good work!
Posted By: 69bronzeT5

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/28/08 05:17 AM

Great job guys! Keep moving forward! My Charger young gun project is at a stand still.
Posted By: 70Coronet500Vert

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/28/08 11:51 AM

Quote:

Great job guys! Keep moving forward! My Charger young gun project is at a stand still.



The one I am doing with my son has just begun. The weather warmed up here in MO and we disassembled the interior. Now it is time to buy some parts and get started on reassembly.
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/29/08 03:23 AM

Thanks for the support guys! Ed from Carlisle came by today to check it out in person. Hes a great guy, and a true mopar guy at that. Did a little work after he left...

Started in on the repair of the trunk floor(spots where the stupid brackets were that i screwed up...






I also had striped and primed the drivers trunk extension piece...




Then while i was doing that Greg ground down all the welds, strip the rails to metal, straitened what needed, and then primered them up with regular primer and weld through where needed...


Posted By: 65pacecar

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/29/08 03:37 AM

Loving this thread, as much fun as the BarrelCuda was to watch go together, this one is even more fun. Congrats on the great work, Cant wait to see it!
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/29/08 03:42 AM

Awesome! This is a HUGE project. It's cool watching it come together.
Posted By: WILD BILL

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/29/08 03:46 AM

Man you guys are on a roll. Keep up the good and it'll come together before you know it.
Posted By: cudaboy340

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/29/08 08:35 PM

Like Steve said, I stopped by on Monday to meet Steve and to see the car for myself. All I can say is WOW!!! I never would've tackled a job like that at 17. Actually, I'm not sure I'd want to deal with that car at any age

Oh yeah, if there are any skeptics that all of this work has been done by 3 high school kids I can assure you that it is!! You can tell from talking to Steve that he knows his stuff!! He might look like he's 17 but he sure doesn't act like it. He's very mature for his age and has a good head on his shoulders.

Regardless of how far along the car is by July, Steve and company have been invited to be the featured Young Guns at Carlisle so make sure to stop by and see the car for yourselves. I think Steve and his friends are perfect examples that a lot of us can look to for inspiration. Even if it's just a painted shell I think it's going to be great for people to see what can be done.

Keep up the great work guys!!

Ed
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/30/08 03:49 AM

65PaceCar That means a lot! I loved watching the barrelcuda go together, one of the best threads to hit this board so that comment means a lot!

Thanks everyone and Ed metal work is going to hopefully cruise a little faster to help get us there, ive had greg over and hes getting better at it. Were still trying to get ryan to that point but hes coming too...

Did a little more today. I patched all the area in the trunk except for one, and they still need smoothed out some. I also removed the other trunk extension for an easier install and primered up all the edges that will be welded...





Ryan got started on removing the old speaker tray from the trashed dutchman panel...




Then Greg did his first metal work. He patched the one really rough tail panel area. He blew through some big holes but there fixed and its coming along and getting there. There is still more work to do...


And incase you havent noticed we have been using metal off the parts cars as our patch panels. Its just cheaper than buying the metal and its the correct gauge
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 02/01/08 03:35 AM

Hey guys, didnt get much done today but finished the patches on the trunk floor, still need to finish and strip it but its pretty much done and ready to go in....

Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 02/03/08 06:55 PM

Did a little bit more today before work, maybe some after then...I got the last patch ground down and then i straitened out the flange that goes onto the tailpanel. It got bent and warped pretty good. The end is still warped but the clamps and welds will help aid it into place...



The patch i had greg do the other day just wasnt cutting it so i cut it out and wend ahead with repair it...




Posted By: Sunroofcuda

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 02/03/08 08:49 PM

SWEEEEEET! Keep up the good work!
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 02/04/08 02:58 AM

Thanks! The quarter panel patch saved a lot of time and was really nice!

Returned the trunk pan so here is the new total...

Expenses:
Car Cost - $1500
Deck lid (thanks to moparmarks) - $100
Front Grilles (thanks to moparmarks - $50
Sidemarkers (4) - $60
383/727 combo - $300
Parts Car - $300
F/R Bumpers - $75
Trunk Floor - $230.85
Trunk Extensions - $150.48
Complete Interior kit - $626.72
Shipping for above three - $79.35
Rear defrost unit - $20
Parts Car (second one) - $150
Dash Pad - $25
Dual Horns and Front Wiring Harness - $25

Total - $3461.55

Sold/unused items:
Front Frame Rails - $500
Front Frame Rails(second parts car set) - $500
Front Grilles - $126
Four Speed Console - $539.99
Misc. Parts in/on Parts car $76.57

Grand Total - $1718.99




And looking ahead im wondering what you think we should do about the firewall. The car was an A/C car. We replaced it with a non A/C firewall. So here is a poll. Any other suggestions would be great...
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 02/05/08 03:27 AM

Alright guys got some more done today...

First i would like to introduce you to our new team member, hes good at keeping us warm!



Ground down the back of the quarter and primed it up...



Found some more rust! So tough to replace rust at that





Then mocked up the passenger Extension by itself and did the same on the drivers side of the car. Everything fits really nice and tight





It is nice seeing a back end in even if it is only clamped



Posted By: GTX MATT

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 02/05/08 03:36 AM

Are the '66-'70 heater boxes the same as a '71? I have one for a '67, but I doubt theyre the same.
Posted By: 75dartcustom

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 02/05/08 06:48 AM

If chicks today are anything like chicks when I graduated, and you honestly plan on taking that thing to prom, you better seriously consider putting AC in that bad boy. I only graduated in 2002, and no girl would go to prom in my Dart with no AC...got that thing fixed in a damn hurry.
Posted By: Big Bad Bee

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 02/05/08 06:53 AM

I've got to step away from the computer for a minute guys. Gonna go out and kiss the Quikfish for being so very, very low on rust. Wow. You're doing a great job there. If this thread has convinced me of anything, it's that I am fixing mine myself and doing it cheaply.
Posted By: SteveS

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 02/05/08 07:08 AM

I wish I had had that much ambition at that age [or any other time in my life]!
Posted By: migsBIG

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 02/05/08 09:17 AM

Quote:

I wish I had had that much ambition at that age [or any other time in my life]!



Have you seen where they live? It's not like there is alot to do and I'm sure they would rather cut metal than be bored all winter.
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 02/05/08 08:04 PM

GTX MATT Thanks for the offer but from what i have seen they are different.

Ross Pulliam I guess ive been lucky, the girl i took to homecoming requested we take my car knowing it had no A/C plus it was something like 85 degrees out...

Thanks Quikfish and SteveS that means a lot to us that we are inspiring and impressing others!

Does anyone have any feedback on the heater issue/poll above? I would like to know why you voted what you did!

Thanks,


Steve
Posted By: DUFFMAN

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 02/05/08 08:15 PM

I voted for "Find a Heater box and restore it" because A/C adds weight and draws on the motor which takes away from performance and thus the fun too. Then again I'm a windows down type of guy. But IMO you don't want to run without a heater. You may want to cruise it on a cooler night and a heater doesn't add too much weight.
Posted By: WILD BILL

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 02/05/08 11:49 PM



Theremight come a day when the weather is clear and dry but cold. Youl'd be kicking yourself as you hear other driving their muscle and you wont want to face the cold without heat. It'll extend your pleasure season and be that much more comfortable all around.

Mine is a track only car with no heater. Even with a multi layer fire suit it can get cold in there. I hate the cold
Posted By: Estreet

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 02/05/08 11:59 PM

I voted to weld the holes closed. I figure that once you finish the car you won't drive it in the snow anyways. Also you are doing so well on a low budget and this would be your cheapest solution.
Posted By: 69Cuda340S

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 02/06/08 12:03 AM

Quote:

Does anyone have any feedback on the heater issue/poll above? I would like to know why you voted what you did!



I voted to put a heater box in there because it will fit the firewall and simplify things. You could always go with a Classic Auto Air system later if you wanted to. Those kits are made for cars that do not have factory AC.
Posted By: EWJ

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 02/06/08 12:04 AM

Driving on a clear, crisp Fall day and driving in the snow are 2 seperate matters but both require heat.

Install the heater.
Posted By: Butt Ugly

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 02/06/08 12:12 AM

I agree with the put a heater in it posters. Cool nights, and hot summer days if the car is running a little hot you can put the heat on to cool the motor a bit.
Keep up the good work.
Posted By: Estreet

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 02/06/08 12:17 AM

Another idea, with budget in mind, would be to make a sheet metal cover..paint it body color..install it from the inside. Then you could add a heater whenever it fits your budget.
Posted By: 75dartcustom

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 02/06/08 01:36 AM

Quote:

GTX MATT Thanks for the offer but from what i have seen they are different.

Ross Pulliam I guess ive been lucky, the girl i took to homecoming requested we take my car knowing it had no A/C plus it was something like 85 degrees out...

Thanks Quikfish and SteveS that means a lot to us that we are inspiring and impressing others!

Does anyone have any feedback on the heater issue/poll above? I would like to know why you voted what you did!

Thanks,


Steve



My girls issue wasn't with the heat, it was with blowing her 100 dollar hair do around and messing it up before she got to show it off!

Keep the girl you got (at least through prom if nothing else )
Posted By: chargervert

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 02/06/08 01:41 AM

Thanks to you guys,and AMD,you've inspired me to take on a project car,I'd parted out,and left for dead! I have a 69 Charger R/T SE,electric sunroof car,that needs about as much metal work,as your Bee. The worst part of this project,is that I sold a lot of the pieces that went to this car,and now I got to go out and find them,and buy them again! Your kickin azz on your project! I'm gonna call my project geezer guns! Cause I'm a couple years older than you guys!
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 02/06/08 03:46 AM

Thanks guys for the input. I think we will just put a heater box in just in case. I can get one pretty cheap im sure.


chargervert Thats awesome! I would save that car too! I'll look for any threads you post! I think its too cool that people can be inspired by this!

Posted By: 70Coronet500Vert

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 02/06/08 01:42 PM

Put in heat and AC. You will never regret it
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 02/14/08 08:20 PM

Hey guys, just got back from a ski trip in vermont so havent been able to work on the bee obviously. But here is some stuff that got done the last two days...

The top of the drivers quarter was pretty well rotted as seen below...


So i cut a section out of the sunroof charger donor to patch it, its not the exact piece since its was junk too but it can work with some modification...


Then here she is welded in place...



Then back to the tail panel rot issue This car is so rusted

Here is the tail panel extension that we have to use drilled off...


Here is a patch for the top of it from the first donor car...


Then i drilled this piece apart to fix the right way...


I'll finish that piece up next and hopefully lay the whole back end in together before we start welding...




Posted By: 70Coronet500Vert

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 02/15/08 12:48 PM

How many spot weld bits you gone through to date and how much are they are why aren't they in your budget numbers?
Posted By: pnypwr

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 02/15/08 12:52 PM

because most people dont figure in cost of materials till the end! those blair bits are reiliant if you keep the rpm low they last and last I dont have that kind of patiance so i tend to go thru them!
Posted By: Challenger 1

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 02/15/08 01:01 PM

Quote:

How many spot weld bits you gone through to date and how much are they are why aren't they in your budget numbers?



I wonder if he's using reg drill bits? If so that would be cheap on the budget.
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 02/15/08 02:23 PM

Quote:

How many spot weld bits you gone through to date and how much are they are why aren't they in your budget numbers?



Those numbers are not going to factored until the end. I will add a material cost for bits(5 packs as of now) and 6 cans on primer right now. I want to wait until all the hole drilling is dont and all the primer usage is done. Pretty much once the sheetmetal work is complete.
Posted By: rtmike

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 02/15/08 05:00 PM

This is one of my favorite posts ever! You guys are doing a great job on that car, and 71 Superbees are awesome cars to boot. Keep up the good work. It goes to show you that you do not need $250,000 to build a cool car!
Posted By: sharpie

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 02/15/08 05:24 PM

nice work, guys. I guess I'd be considered young too, and it gives me hope that I can get the Demon looking sharp in $5,000 or so
Posted By: DJVCuda

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 02/15/08 07:38 PM

you can use some cutting oil to help the life of the bits dramatically...

rapid tap is the best IMO
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 02/15/08 11:30 PM

Thanks guys for the compliments. I do use the lube made by blair with the tools to help but i consider 5 packs at most likely 1800 spot welds cut not to be too terrible.
Posted By: QuickBpBp

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 02/16/08 01:36 AM

Keep drillin
imagine if you had the drill welds in the Bee too instead of just peeling them apart you'd be up around 3600 drilled
I saw that car and I knew it was rough but not that rough... You guys are learning alot with that one...
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 02/16/08 03:55 AM

Quote:

Keep drillin
imagine if you had the drill welds in the Bee too instead of just peeling them apart you'd be up around 3600 drilled
I saw that car and I knew it was rough but not that rough... You guys are learning alot with that one...

Funny you say that, the whole floor, trunk floor and back end was pretty much chisseled off lol. Wait until you see the post later tonight of what i just had to salvage to make the car work, i feel like this was a hand built car having to fab up all these pieces lol. Stay tuned
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 02/16/08 06:17 AM

Did some more work today, mostly fabrication and fixing of some of the more seriously rusted out areas.

Here is the two extension pieces that go from the trunk extensions to the frame crossmember. As you can see the one is okay but the other is junk, sadly this is the best one from all three cars, so it had to be used.


I cut the upper lip and then the piece in half for the most part...


Here is what will be the new side...


Cut out the relief cut and the angled area at top...


Here are the two tabs i made...


Welded up the made up piece...


The one new tab welded on...


The finished product...


Also did the tail panel extension, top piece welded on...


Bottom piece fabricated and then welded on...


Posted By: EWJ

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 02/16/08 04:05 PM

You know...seeing your work continues to keep me going on my project without fear or concern of what lay ahead. Keep it up.
Posted By: WILD BILL

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 02/16/08 08:58 PM

I love seeing this come together. I can't wait to see the finished product. I know it's been said before but you guys are doing an awesome job.
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 02/17/08 04:01 AM

Alright guys, no work today and a free day to work on the car! Got quite a bit done, i should have the back end completely tied together by the end of the day monday if all goes well. Had a lot of small prep work to do to get it this far like welding certain parts together so they would fit back in the car. I have to remove all the metal that was in the back end so i could punch holes to weld to other parts, borrowed the local farmers air punch and drilled them out to 3/8"...


I found a piece that will work for the curved part of the upper quarter, welded it on...


Mocked up everything in the rear end...


Put a few tack welds down so i could put the extensions on so i know they fit...


Did some more tacks, and placed the tail panel in...


She still needs some final adjustments and a mock up with those stupid big old brackets from the truck floor to the tail panel but other than that the fit looks pretty good...



Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 02/19/08 01:10 AM

Forgot to add, there was more rust found, this i some nasty stuff, unsure of how exactly i will go about repairing it but its going to have to be done...


Its part of the inner structure and its in a very tight work space
Posted By: Dartman318

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 02/21/08 05:15 AM

I have been silently following this thread.

I was brought home from the hospital in this 74' Charger.



Keeping her shaded by a Mesquite Tree....I like
A-bodies.

Need any little misc. stuff?
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 02/22/08 03:57 AM

Dartman318 Actually there is all kinds of little nick nacks we need. Things like Door handles, strikers, door locking bars, hood latch and others. I'll have to compile a list and let you know...

Been welding a lot lately and just placing and double checking everything mostly. But greg took off the rear valance brackets from the tail panel and i welded in some patches seen below...




Then also drilled off the passenger spring hanger for the deck lid, it was toast as pictured before. And even better looking underneath it


Posted By: DynoDave

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 02/25/08 02:00 AM

Good to see the rear sheet metal all coming back together. So do you think the deck lid spring hanger/inner wheel well rust happened because of a rear window leak into the trunk?
Posted By: BobAsh

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 02/25/08 02:22 AM

Hey, you managed to waste my whole saturday afternoon, reading this thread from the beginning

But you guys were tremendous inspiration for me - my '68 Coronet is sitting in the barn since fall and I am finally preparing to start the project.

Thanks for showing me how things can be done for cheap - I'll probably have a bigger budget, but I must have the bodywork done (though my car is not too rusty, so hopefully that won't be too expensive) and I must pay lots of money for shipping parts from US...

I hope that in few weeks I'll start my own, similar thread
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 02/25/08 02:58 AM

That is really awesome work! I'm in the process of getting my Sport Satellite on the road and I am fortunate to not have to deal with rust issues. I wish I had your metal work skills, as that would open up more opportunities for bigger projects for myself. That will be one sweet ride when you complete it.
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 02/25/08 03:40 AM

Thanks guys! Glad to be your inspiration! We've gotten ours from just looking at many of the threads on this board as well!

DynoDave To be honest i think it was from the car sitting in the elements with no windows in it(the only ones in it were down ) But on top of that there was also a very very bad shaped dutchman panel that helped leak water in...
Posted By: BobAsh

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 02/25/08 03:44 AM

I have to show this thread to a friend of mine from same town - he's even younger than I am (I'm 23, he's 20) and he's buying a '71 Charger from another friend - not rusty, but heavily damaged in accident (front frame rails bent like a banana, rear fender hit a tree - the car went spinning and hit three trees...). I think it will be one hell of a project...
Posted By: NAS Backyard

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 02/25/08 05:17 AM

I applaud you guys for doing great work . I see the rebody critics have kept their comments to themselves , apparently Non 6 pac and Hemi cars don't qualify. Ha Ha!

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Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 02/26/08 02:43 AM

BobAsh Sounds interesting. I guess cars are harder to find there so as long as its not rusty hammer and dolly the crap out of her!

NASBackyard Thanks Tim! I guess they dont or else they dont want to hurt our feelings. Atleast there was no frame replacement! But we might get yelled at when we put the cowl numbers on because they are completely rusted around and cannot be saved without splicing them in


Starting digging in on the pain in the but area that needs replaced. No room to work and it could not be avioded. Here is where i cut from the bottom of the wheel well...


Here she is cut out...



The donor wheel well...


Mocking up the new piece...


Trimmed up and primered...


Im off wednesday so ill try and get her welded up then...

Posted By: jdr2483

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 02/26/08 02:53 AM

When is Prom? Keep up the good work
Posted By: BobAsh

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 02/26/08 03:09 AM

Quote:

BobAsh Sounds interesting. I guess cars are harder to find there so as long as its not rusty hammer and dolly the crap out of her!




That's what my buddy plans on doing.

The car was very nice before the accident, only needed a paint job to be completely finished. Custom leather interior, 500hp 440, discs all around, lots of new parts on suspension... Now it's just a shell with interior, we'll be using mechanicals from '68 Charger 318 which replaced it and to which original stuff was transplanted, and probably some minor stuff from my Coronet - I want to build decent handling car, so many suspension parts will be replaced...

Before:

Now:
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 02/27/08 03:49 AM

jdr2483 Prom is May 31st. I dont think that date will be met, we are shooting for carlisle though!
Posted By: 1972CudaV21

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 02/27/08 04:00 AM

Quote:

jdr2483 Prom is May 31st. I dont think that date will be met, we are shooting for carlisle though!



Best wishes with the car. Even when I was your age, it would probably take me 10 years to get it done. That's if I could even do it. Definately not for everyone.
Posted By: mopar346

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 02/27/08 04:52 AM

Ok boys, you are making us old guys with a little money look bad. Keep it up, I among others are very impressed with your vision and drive. I believe ya'll have great futures not just with cars but in life.
Posted By: Dartman318

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 02/27/08 05:35 AM

Shoot me a PM with your parts list.

I am Mclovin' your determination.
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 02/28/08 03:10 AM

mopar346 Thanks but were not trying to make anyone look bad! Just trying to have some fun and build a car

Dartman318 Alright ill have to dig through my boxes and see what trinkets i need still...

Did a little more work today. Welded on the bracket and tub piece...


Cut out the tub for the hinge replacement. This is scary because of how crucial it is to get right...


Here is the donor piece all masked ready to be cut..


Greg got the junk dutch man off the speak tray then cleaned it up and primered it...



Got some good old rust on the speaker tray too



Also finished grinding and then painted up the tail panel brackets...



Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 02/28/08 03:56 AM

Hi guys I'm the third member working on this car. I am learning quite a bit and it seems that it might just be possible to get done. Thanks for all of your support.
Greg
Posted By: MarkZ

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 02/28/08 06:12 PM

I can't tell you how bad I wish I lived closer. I'd love to tag along and offer help. You guys would literally school me with metal working. Great thread and keep it up!
Posted By: rtmike

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 02/28/08 06:33 PM

I love this post. It so energizes me. Keep up the good work!
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 02/29/08 03:47 AM

MarkMullins Thanks but are "metalworking" skills that everyone speaks of we have acquired from this car, no prior experience. Its as easy as grabbing the tools and welder. Hopefully some will see that and try their skills on their own car. Everything we can do was gained from this car.

rtmike Thanks means a lot to us and it drives us to keep going. Although no one has can top the mc'lovin comment above


So here it is, the most terrifying part of the whole deal. The hinge replacement, i think i have about 20 different reference points scribbled on the quarter panel. Here is the new piece all trimmed up...


Here she is tacked into place...


Once it was tacked remeasured all the points and they are perfect. Next we put the hinges on and then the decklid just to make sure it was good, and it was!





If you cant tell we were pretty pumped about that fitting While ryan was cleaning and priming some brackets greg also started in on striping the nice rust free tailpanel


Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 03/02/08 04:51 AM

Hey guys got a little more work done today. Finished welding the hinge in. I finished stripping the tail panel and painted her up in some primer and then put some more primer on the brackets ryan cleaned up...





Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 03/02/08 05:31 AM

Man you guys are doing an amazing job!!!

I honestly wish i had the drive and will power to get up and going on my 70 Charger like you and your friend are doing...keep up the good work man, it'll all be worth it when your at a light and a girl pulls up next to you and starts looking your car up and down....trust me
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 03/02/08 11:10 PM

BatmanFeller Thanks! I think the pride will be enough but girls are a bonus as well, i dont think our girlfriends will like that factor

So i finally got the things tail panel whipped back into shape. There was some rust holes as seen, i just welded them shut...





Then i welded the valance brackets onto it again after repairing them(see above)...


Then i layed a total for four tacks on until i can get the tail panel perfect not only aligned but with those bulky brackets that go in the trunk...





Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 03/03/08 02:37 AM

Did a little more tonight...

I mocked up the rear valance before getting ahead of myself to make sure the brackets aligned with the valance, which they did...


I then went ahead and started putting these STUPID brackets in place. These are the most painfull thing to install and take off if your planning on do a restoration




Posted By: 69Cuda340S

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 03/03/08 03:11 AM

Way cool! The rear of that car is coming together nicely!!
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 03/04/08 03:21 AM

Thanks,

If you still want to hit up that yard let me know, its getting warmer
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 03/05/08 03:46 AM

Hey guys took off work early to get 2 hours in tonight on the car. Greg came down and helped out too!

I addressed the issue of our rusted out speaker tray. Here i cut out the old speaker area...


I could actually save the one side, it does have two holes that need to be fixed but it much better than the other side. The left is the original the right is the new...


Tacked the ring and then welded it...


The complete ring welded in...


Then i did the rear defrost area...


Here she is welded in...


While i was doing that, greg was prepping the area for it to go and then started stripping the engine bay to fully see the rust in there...


Yikes




Posted By: 1972CudaV21

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 03/05/08 04:41 AM

This entire car is going to be held together by miles and miles of mig welds...
Posted By: 1968 Charger B5

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 03/06/08 04:21 AM

def a lot more welding work than i did on my last project hahah....nice job...i have to say that is a lot of work...your gonna love that car too much when its done...hahahah
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 03/07/08 03:42 AM

aliving824 Over half the car! Hope they hold

1968 Charger B5 I agree. The sentimental value with be there for this one.

Did some more work on the car tonight. Had greg down and we did some work. First started using some paint stripper on some of the panel(got to dark out thats why its not finished



Then drilled off the new brackets that go from the speaker tray to the dutchman panel...


Welded them on...


Then started welding the whole speaker tray in...


Once there was enough to hold that in we laid the dutchman panel and the trunk lid on to check for fitment and gaps. Looks pretty good!





Shes coming along!
Posted By: pnypwr

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 03/07/08 05:06 AM

Quote:

This entire car is going to be held together by miles and miles of mig welds...



aah mopars in the northeast...most of them get that treatment!

Why didnt you replace the speaker shelf? was the donor rusted also?
Posted By: sunroofgtx

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 03/07/08 05:34 AM

Dudes, chicks gotta be linin' up to in the back seat of this thing !! Can't wait to see it at Carlisle !!
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 03/08/08 07:51 AM

pnypwr The first cars was cut for larger speakers, the second, i cut before seeing the rust on the original. So it was easy to just patch it...

We got a lot done tonight. Parts fabbed, metal cut, and welds grinded(lots). I started in on the quarter panel replacement on the front. Here is the new panel and next to the original...


Cut off and close ups of rust...



I have to wait until daylight to cut the parts tub off to patch that first before moving further so i started repairing the dutchman panel...



Ryan made a new partial inner fender for the passenger side. Its really pitted and rough...


And it was gregs grinding day! lol He ground a lot down and here some of the stuff he did...




Posted By: 69bronzeT5

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 03/08/08 09:44 AM

Its looking awesome guys! You guys sure have alot of courage..I'd never try that much custom work and welding!
Posted By: 68SportSatvert

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 03/09/08 02:26 AM

All I can say is AWESOME! I guess I've been living under a rock 'cause I haven't seen this thread before. I don't have the words to describe how well you guys are doing and what you're doing with what appears to be basic tools. Keep posting parts needed and I'll start looking. Lots of those cars around. Again, GREAT JOB!!
Posted By: new bee

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 03/09/08 02:36 AM

Again, what a great story being told here.
Do you guys feel you can finish the car by graduation? I am totally rooting for you, but it seems like there is so much more to work on.
Is the interior/driveline/etc being worked on concurrently with the body?
Inspiring stuff, none the less.
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 03/10/08 02:39 AM

69bronzeT5 , 68SportSatvert Thanks guys! We always are spending time saying how far its come and which really is amazing for our prior experience(none) and tools!

new bee To be totally honest, no. It just seems like way to much. I would love to have her painted by that time for sure but we will see. The engine is done, the tranny deal is still to be figured out. The rear is in the car and will need to be taken out and checked over. We are shooting for carlisle to atleast have her mobile on its own power...
Posted By: sunroofgtx

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 03/10/08 02:46 AM

Hey, I thought it was to be done for Prom !! What gives ? You have done an enormous amount of work.. Great posts ..
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 03/10/08 03:02 AM

Rick,

Prom and graduation are 5 days apart. May 31st is prom. It would be fantastic but i am not so sure. Hopefully is all i can say!
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 03/10/08 03:09 AM

If you need an extra set of hands, i'll fly out and get that car Done with ya b4 then!

I'm sure many more would help out too!

You guys are doing flippin' amazing stuff!
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 03/11/08 02:28 AM

BatmanFeller Looks like we might need that help and possibly a moparts group to come down and help assemble this thing. At the rate of rust we keep finding we will need it.

So i haven't been so depressed about this project until now. This Area is just a pure PAIN! Here is the donor tub...


The trimmed up piece of the tub...


Split in two...


The cars tub cut out


Since the flanges were rusted beyond repair its going to be modified a little. I cut out the area for the new piece...



Then layed in the new piece...This area is going to be a pain because of how intertwined everything is...





Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 03/12/08 03:06 AM

Well we started tearing into "project wheel well restoration. I am doing the lower part while greg does the upper part. Here is the piece greg is using...



He started cleaning it up and found some nice pin holes


Cut out the old tub, look at that rust




My half of the project...

I first welded on the rocker cap...


I then mocked up our fabulous replacement tub


I trimmed it down and started in on the fabrication of a new lower half...



Once the new flange was on i tacked another piece on for fitment and to see look at some angles for bending it...



Then i bent the piece and welded it on...


Then put on another piece...


Then i mocked it up again and its all but done except for the flange that the quarter welds to...


I also finished up the dutchman corner...


Also looking forward to replacing this little bit of floor (right rear Corner)


Posted By: SealockRacing

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 03/12/08 03:23 PM

while youre in there you should just mini tub it, it would make for some nice rubber under there!

thats alot of work you guys have gotten done. im 17 and amazed that you can repair that much rust.

how old are you guys?
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 03/13/08 02:10 AM

SealockRacing I personally would love to tub it but really the wheel wells are pretty large already. Ryan and myself have turned 18 since the start and greg will be 18 by carlisle.
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 03/13/08 02:30 AM

Alright, got a little more work done today...

First off i finished up the out tub by welding on the flange that is welded to the quarter panel, and now she is done!


Then moved onto cutting the floor out...


Fabbed up a new piece...


Welded it in...


Then moved onto the wheel tub restoration. Here is what i started with...


Then replaced it piece by piece...





All she needs is trimmed and grinded and the bottom halves are done!
Posted By: SealockRacing

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 03/13/08 02:34 AM

Quote:

SealockRacing I personally would love to tub it but really the wheel wells are pretty large already. Ryan and myself have turned 18 since the start and greg will be 18 by carlisle.



yeah, mini tubs would be cool, but ive never seen the wheel wells on a 71 bee before.

being 17, and working on race cars, and working at a shop is one of the best feelings for me.

where do you work at?
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 03/13/08 02:38 AM

I work at a gas station mainly, but summertime Ray Barton's. This is in all taking place in my dads shop at the house. Its nothing special just an airline and welder. No fab tools or anything special like that just a nice place to work...
Posted By: migsBIG

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 03/13/08 09:55 AM

You know, you probably would have had this car done if you had stopped taking pictures and just worked on the car more!

This one one of the coolest post this place has had. I hope they put a sticky on it for the archives.
Posted By: SealockRacing

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 03/13/08 10:07 AM

Quote:

I work at a gas station mainly, but summertime Ray Barton's. This is in all taking place in my dads shop at the house. Its nothing special just an airline and welder. No fab tools or anything special like that just a nice place to work...



thats awesome man!

any chance you want to share how you got hooked up with Barton?

i want to get out of the gas station scene after a couple years and travel with a race team, and work on race cars for a few years, and then open up my own shop.

i would be more than happy enough to hang around some SS/AH cars, and a ton of Hemi's though!

i cant wait to graduate highschool. then hopefully give Bunny Burkett a call, and see whats going on with her team!

keep up the good work man!
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 03/14/08 01:15 AM

migsBIG Most likely yea but i gotta document this thing, it takes all of your support to keep us going, really

SealockRacing I went to his shop in 8th grade for career shadowing day. A year later my dad got his hemi built there and i skipped school a few times to go to "Dr. Bartons". When we picked up the motor Ray offered me a job there in the summer. I thought he was kidding, but he wasnt. It is cool stuff and i wish you the best of luck, being in that shop to work and get paid is honestly a dream
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 03/17/08 03:07 AM

All but finished up the upper part of the tube, and boy was it a hassle. The first attempt to fit the inner structure was cut a little short and it was hard to reference anything at that point. So we used parts car number twos wheel tub and inner structure.

Here she is resting on he hill side...


Pulled the whole quarter off to get to the backside a little easier...


Then trimmed that up a little more


Then removed the inner structure from the piece with the new measurements...


Clamped in...


Tacked in...


Then cleaned the tub with its new measurements...


Started welding and grinding...

Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 03/17/08 03:13 AM

Then we started welded in the dutchman after mocking the decklid again. All i can say is victory!

Me and Greg welding...




Here she is in, a few more to plug but basically in...




Its hard to believe that it looked like this a short bit ago...



AND NOW...



Seeing it coming back together is just plain awesome!
Posted By: 6packattack

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 03/17/08 03:20 AM

Hey, what a great way to spend ur time, even if u don't make the prom in time, at least u are willing to put forth the effort

But i have faith in you
Posted By: chargervert

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 03/17/08 04:18 AM

Looks Awsome guys,that was one massive undertaking! It looks like you guys really got your moneys worth out of that parts car!
Posted By: WILD BILL

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 03/17/08 04:43 AM

Coming along nicley Keep up the good work
Posted By: JonsGottaDusta

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 03/17/08 05:41 AM

That car is coming along awesome Steve. You guys are really amazing, so keep up the good work.

Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 03/17/08 05:33 PM

Thanks guys! Yes we really did, used up the whole thing pretty much metal wise! Thanks for the support!
Posted By: TX9H6E4CUDA

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 03/17/08 06:54 PM

i am so amazed. wow you guys saved that car, great job. Now i am not fearing putting a rear 1/4 on my 71 Bee. Really great job and if you guys need anything (non sheet metal because its all junk here lol) please give me a ring i am doing alot of junkyarding this summer and will help
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 03/17/08 08:28 PM

JonsGottaDemon You coming out to the Nationals this year? If so we can meet up for once and you can see the car, take ya for a ride too

TX9H6E4CUDA Thanks! You should not have to many problems, the one thing i've learned it to just suck it up and take the time to do it right, then end results will please you...

Steve
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 03/18/08 01:53 AM

Alright guys i got the wheel tub repair completely done, it just needs welded. Here is the inner tub welded on...


The outer tub welded on...


Finished the left side of tub, had to make some relief cuts in it because the inner structure hung just a tad to low there...


The final product...


Put the quarter patch on to double check everything and make sure that the contour of the out tub i made fit nicely, it did...


Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 03/21/08 05:30 AM

Got a little more done tonight. I got the quarter panel tacked in place...



Then i started on the not so kosher part. Lets try not to be to negative here. As you can see the original numbers from the cowl are above and will be grafted into the new cowl. If you remember how bad the cowl was and you see how bad the numbers area is i think you may just understand...





Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 03/22/08 12:58 AM

Well today was pretty much a clean up day. I finished welding up the quarter panel and then put some wheels on and rolled her out to clean up the shop. Just stepping back and looking at all thats gone into making it look like it does is pretty darn cool. That and the fact that i thought it would be nice to get some full body shots











Posted By: TX9H6E4CUDA

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 03/22/08 03:35 AM

looks great, now are you going to put it up on a rottersie and get it blasted and get the underside or you getting ready for paint? Whats the next step for you guys? Dont worry about the body numbers anyone complains they are just evnyous of your work great job
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 03/22/08 04:27 AM

Well we still have a lot of work to do as far as metal work, there are tons of little spots that are just going to be a pain. Then we still have 100's of holes to plug that were not completely plugged as we just put enough on to hold the panel in. My dads got a rottisery (sp?) and i was thinking we could put it on there and undercoat the bottom end leaving the rear tubs and front frame area alone so we can paint them. We will see, there is still tons of work that needs done and most of it is the stuff that is a pain. I'll post some progress pics later tonight i just came in for a drink

I dont have a problem with the numbers i am not trying to hide anything as the numbers are right there. If people think thats doing a numbers swap then so be it, the car is being built for our enjoyment, and not to resell
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 03/22/08 05:51 AM

Hey everyone,

I did some work but nothing thats really worth a photo even though i took one. I welded all but maybe 20 of the welds on the floor pan. I also started stripping the pan to find any pin holes and then to prep for paint, possibly. I also got in my order of Rust Bullet for the cars roof and insides. Hope the stuff works good as its kinda pricey. I'll update the build cost once i figure how much it was...





Posted By: WILD BILL

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 03/22/08 06:01 AM

Can't wait to see that in color.

Have you decided on one yet?
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 03/22/08 06:09 AM

Quote:

Can't wait to see that in color.

Have you decided on one yet?



Black, well thats what is planned. We think it would look mean with the flat black super bee stripes on her
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 03/24/08 01:44 AM

Alright so the progress has been welding holes

Still have lots to fill, but in the meantime i also have applied Rust Bullet to part of the inside...



Then the scrap pile next the barn, this is just the stuff cut, we still have the cars



Posted By: Big Bad Bee

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 03/24/08 04:27 AM

Hope you boys have had your tetanus shots. Keep up the good work. I am not commenting much but you guys are inspiring.
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 03/24/08 05:36 AM

Thanks Quikfish, i think we are all up to par in that area, we have all been cut so i think were fine

I got some work done tonight and this morning if you would like to call it that. Started in on the repair of the inner fender on the passenger side. First off here are all the rust spots...






And the donor inner fender...

Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 03/24/08 05:41 AM

Next I drilled out the inner fender hinge mount...




Then cut out all the rust...




I have the pieces for everything but the hinge mount, so off to making one, here is the old and outline of the new one...




Front two sections tacked in and the hinge mount taken apart for maximum cleansing and future rust prevention...




Thanks all for tonight it too darn cold to be working in a non heated garage at 29 degrees


Posted By: Gavin

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 03/24/08 08:44 PM

Awesome, I only just saw this post for the first time (not been on the general board for a while) and I really have to take my hat off to you. I thought my car had rust problems, but at least I was able to get a lot of decent replacements and also farm out the bodywork for time reasons, so I have to say you have done a fantastic job. You have used what you can get and have really brought that car back from the dead. Not only will it be a great car when done but the satisfaction from doing it all will be immense, and although it has cost you a lot of time it is really remarkable how your costs have been kept so low.

Really inspirational -
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 03/25/08 01:42 AM

Gavin Thanks it means a lot. As it is i find that the serious work is dwindling down. I was always looking for what the next part i need to make. Now its all almost done Kinda scary but its not coming fast enough. Hopefully with can start working the body with some plastic where needed soon
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 03/25/08 01:52 AM

So i did some more work here today and got the front end all placed up!

First off i welded on the other piece of the inner fender...




Then cut the pieces, marked the holes with a center punch, drove to the farmers house up the road, used his drill press, came home, and here they are





This is the other sides inner fender drilled out (notice only two holes, the top two rusted off)




Then tacked those pieces into place...





Then took apart the hinge mounts, they are rusted out somewhat too




The only other place on the front end is this tiny spot on the drivers side, i think im just going to try and use some copper backing to fix this one but if that doesnt work, well i guess you will find out




Then i also applied some more rust bullet, havent decided how low i will go yet but i was thinking of doing the whole interior panel. Then i need to get all that i can inside the webbing...





Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 03/28/08 02:33 AM

GREAT NEWS! WE ARE DEPRESSED FROM MORE RUST!!!

Sorry i just had to get that out, this is so discouraging its unreal. I knew about the lip on the quarter but not the wheel wells, or floor pans. Just look...

Here is the lower quarter and tub with some undercoating gone...



Metal cut away...




We have to make all this stuff since we have no donor pieces. Here is the first piece in...




Started scraping some more undercoating, found some of our best friend, RUST!



When stripping the floor to metal we found more rust that was hidden extremely well. The previous owner through some sort of a seem sealant over the whole thing and it looked like it was all good, no its not




Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 03/29/08 12:53 AM

Hey guys we got some more work done today. First thing was to evaluate the rust situation at the drip rails. It is crusty in the drain area and part of the roof is gone. So we cut up parts car #1 for the new drip rails. Here is the original on the drivers side...



Then cut up the drip rails, this car is looking slim





Next i drilled of and cut the section of the rail that will be replaced...



Cut the section of the the donor(this are a PAIN to remove in one piece when free let along on the car



Then cut the roof piece out and hit it with some rust bullet, dont work it wont ignite once dry (I tested it on some spare metal)...


Also got a package in the mail



Posted By: 72gtx4speed

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 03/29/08 02:22 AM

steve, you ryan and greg have done a fantastic job resurrecting a car most of us would have parted. i know i have parted cleaner cars that i see could have been saved. i just found this post and spent the last 2 hours reading it. i may have some upper door panels. they are off a brogham. does your bee have roll down 1/4 windows?

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Posted By: DynoDave

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 03/29/08 06:01 PM

Keep up the awesome work guys. I know finding the additional rust is discouraging...my Rallye is rotted in many of the same spots. But you're making excellent progress!
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 03/29/08 09:43 PM

72gtx4speed Thanks, When we first got it we really did not think it would be nearly this bad at all. Boy were we wrong As far as the rear windows, yes they are roll down. Are the panels different?


DynoDave Thanks! We would not be so discouraged if we had known when we had the whole floor out to just do it then since we have a rust free rear pan, but go figure


I'm in the middle of doing the passenger side drip rail right now, it is crumbling to pieces as i drill it off I will have pictures up later!


Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 03/30/08 06:47 AM

So i got quite a bit done tonight but it is just a pain to do. Since i had to apply the other coat of rust bullet to the other side i started in on the passenger side restoration. It is quite a bit worse. Here is the original one, as you can see it is rusted even on the outside lip...



Here is an underside shot...



Here it is removed. If you have ever been lucky enough to remove one you will known that there are large missing areas...





I removed the one off the donor section but bent it up pretty good But it is solid so it can be put back into shape...



Here is the roof and quarter seem it is rusted out here as well as some extensive bubbling...



Thinking i would only have to do a roof splice i drilled and cut it off, then i cut the quarter seam too...





Then i hit the area with some rust bullet and will have to wait for it to dry!



I think we might change the project name to project rust bucket


Posted By: 69Cuda340S

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 03/30/08 01:34 PM

Steve, that looks great so far. Keep up the good work. Looking forward to seeing more of this car's progress. Bill
Posted By: JonsGottaDusta

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 03/30/08 08:26 PM

The car is looking awesome Steve! Its finally starting to look like a car again

I think the black on black idea would be AWESOME! I wanna build a Duster like that someday. Keep up the good work, too bad the cold is slowing you down. It was overcast and in the 70's today
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 03/31/08 03:10 AM

Thanks Bill and Jon! The cold is kinda bad to work in but its starting to warm up, only dropped to 35 tonight!

But anyways did a little more to pain restoration of the drip rail areas. I welded up the passenger side roof piece and lip. It still needs some touch up but its good for now...



Then i Tacked the actual drip rail in and it fit good! Just need to plug the holes and weld the seems...



Then on the passenger side project, and a project it is, i cut away the inner and upper flanges all the way back past the rear window...



Then cut the donor piece, this is going to be a pain to weld in...


Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 04/01/08 02:47 AM

So here is todays update...

To patch the upper roof and quarter panel the lead had to be melted out so i could take measurements from the reference points i used...



Once it was cut out i need to removed the panel from the backside...



Here it is out and laid into place, still have lots of trimming to do, i cut it much larger than needed just in case because there is no room for error here...




Also Finished welding the other sides up. It just needs some grinding. This will be a huge pain




Also blasted the hump to see the full extent of damages to it, not to bad but still needs attention...



Greg hit the inner roof area with some rust bullet...



Ryan started to strip paint from the cowl...



And thats all for today...

For any followers, i am just curious what you think a body shop would have charged for the amount of metal work done so for, just in labor


Posted By: chargervert

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 04/01/08 03:16 AM

Hey Guys,Damn,thats really one rusty car you got there dudes! I'm from New Englans,and have fixed many a rusty car,but that thing was even more rotted,than what I'm used to seeing up here! I thought that a rust free floor pan in our area was too goood to be true! great work guys!
Posted By: 70Coronet500Vert

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 04/01/08 11:01 AM

Quote:

For any followers, i am just curious what you think a body shop would have charged for the amount of metal work done so for, just in labor



Well you haven't posted your hours. But figure $35 - $50 an hour.

$5k - $7500 range?
Posted By: DPelletier

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 04/01/08 02:59 PM

Quote:

Quote:

For any followers, i am just curious what you think a body shop would have charged for the amount of metal work done so for, just in labor



Well you haven't posted your hours. But figure $35 - $50 an hour.

$5k - $7500 range?



My guess is at LEAST double that (plus the metal, of course).



Dave
Posted By: nutso suave

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 04/01/08 05:34 PM

wow! that is a lot of rust! i just read through this whole thread - wow. nice work guys!
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 04/01/08 09:38 PM

Thanks guys! I was think a very large amount. I know i paid close to $3500 for my quarters, trunk extensions and dutchman panel to be installed on my challenger. You figure almost everyhthing has been replaced so its got to be up there
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 04/02/08 02:41 AM

Got some more done tonight...

Finished triming up the inner structure to the roof and drip rail after clamping it in...



Primed it up...




Tacked it in, if you cant tell this is a very complex piece to do...



Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 04/02/08 02:45 AM

Then i mocked up the actual drip rail to see how it fit, well its still needs a lot more body work before, i butchered it bad when taking it off because of how hard they are to remove...



Here is some of the damage...




Then i have the roof/quarter piece fully trimmed and its ready for some tacking, will have to do it later...



Ryan keep going on striping the front end, its looking nice and clean





Thanks all for tonight guys!
Posted By: pnypwr

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 04/02/08 03:05 AM

I dont think a body shop would have touched it looking good tho, alot of work but will be nice in the end!
Posted By: chargervert

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 04/02/08 03:12 AM

Hey Guys, You are really kickin azz, on those rust issues,that keep plagueing you! I got out in the garage tonight my self,and started on another Charger convertible,that i'm fabing up for a fellow Moparts member. Its really good getting back out in the shop,since I shattered my heel building the shop two years ago! I got a pretty good night in,considering,that I didn't get out of work until 7:30 PM. I got the nose and doors on the car,and they are necessary to properly align the rear clip of the Charger,on the Coronet convertible body! The work that you guys are getting done,has lit the fire under my old lazy azz! As long as I have enough liquid pain reliever,form our good friends at Anhuser Busch,then I can mak some progress! Keep up the good work guys,If you have enough welding wire,then sooner or later there will be no more rust left to weld!
Posted By: CYACOP

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 04/02/08 03:13 AM

After the experience of this car, the next one not being as rusty you guys will be excellent metal men Im impressed with your skills.
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 04/03/08 01:36 AM

pnypwr Thanks! we have countless hours into this thing and seeing it coming back together is awesome, its drives us more to get it in color! Kinda funny you say that because that is most likely true at most shops

chargervert Thats awesome, glad we could help! Although what your doing is awesome, i have seen yours and its one sweet ride!

DJE Thanks! We are already talking about the next project we want to do! So when this is done stay tuned for another!
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 04/03/08 01:53 AM

So we got a little bit done tonight...


First off what to cut out the floor for the hump. Traced the hump and that used 3/4inch tape as a cutting line...





Then here it is fully trimmed(referenced the car next to it) and striped for some primer...



Then had to concentrate on the humps rust. Made a new piece from scrap...






After welding the inner roof back on Greg threw some rust bullet on, it looks good



Then tacked the roof/quarter piece on, the thing fit flawlessly...



Posted By: chargervert

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 04/03/08 02:12 AM

Hey Guys,I feel your pain,I did my 71 Challenger convert,and it was kinda like what you guys are doing. That car was rotted,and smashed really hard in the nose. I put both front frame rails in,the tortion bar cross member,the radiator support,both inner fender wells,3/4 0f the cowl,the lower cowl sides,rocker panels,all the floor pans,rear quarter panels,lower door skins,wheelwells,trunk floor pan,trunk extensions,frame rail ends,and bumper support panel. I also replaced both fenders,the hood,and both valences. The trunk lid,also needed the underside back edge replaced. I was like you guys,I thought I never get to hang up the welder! Hang in ther dudes,cause it was worth every bit of it when I ride around with the roof down! You'll be curising in the barrelbee soon!
Posted By: QuickBpBp

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 04/03/08 02:16 AM

Quote:

You'll be cursing in the barrelbee soon!



I am sure they already are!!! The rust even has rust...
Posted By: ixelerate

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 04/03/08 02:35 AM

to start off i can relate to you guys...im 17...but i doubt i will take my charger to prom...the girls really dont dig it lol....and im jealous, my garage is in the middle of woods with a leaky roof but hey its a garage. I also got a little more lucky too, i bought a survivor charger with no rust. You guys are awesome and I like to relate
Posted By: pnypwr

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 04/03/08 03:14 AM

Having done that kinda work, I know how daunting it can be. Its all worth it in the end though. have you posted a list of stuff needed yet, a buddy of mine is unloading his charger and im cleaning out my extra b body stuff so if we got what u need wed donate...beats tossing it!
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 04/03/08 05:56 PM

chargervert Thanks your kind words are great! Are you going to carlisle? If so we will have to get together there...

ixelerate Sounds like a good find! I got lucky with my challenger being in the same condition, this on the other hand "belongs in the junkyard" Well at least thats what the cop said when he pulled us over bring it home

pnypwr Thanks! The end of sheet metal work is in site! But i do have a list for parts i need, hope the mods are okay with this...



Posted By: ixelerate

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 04/04/08 04:07 AM

Quote:

hope the mods are okay with this...







guess not...........
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 04/04/08 05:08 PM

I cant post the stuff i need for the project on this forum so if you do have any b-body parts, let me know and i will PM you what i need. Just send me your price etc, it would be a great help!

Thanks,

Steve
Posted By: GTX MATT

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 04/04/08 05:31 PM

Id have to say a body shop would have charged probably 20K to complete the body work on this car. You guys are still doing a great job, keep it up.

And progress on your mill and transmission or are they sitting patiently until the body is near completed?
Posted By: chargervert

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 04/05/08 12:44 AM

Hey Stev,I'll be at Carlsile,I never miss it. I have gone every year since 1992. I'll be vending this year. I can usually be found at the vendor spot,or in the T building with the Dayclona/G series crew. Looking forward to meeting you guys. Unfortunatly,I don't have anything for thrid gen Chargers. I only have the one 72,and there isn't any extra peices for it. If you guys were doing a second gen,I could probably help ya out.
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 04/05/08 07:55 PM

GTX MATT The motor is done or should i say runs Tranny is up in the air yet, dont really know...

So we got a little bit more done tonight but had some helpers, our prom dates. They asked us if they could help


Here is ryan and jeni...



my girlfriend rachel and me...



They put some more rust bullet to the inside...


Meanwhile ryan and i welded the roof and quarter piece in...



They wanted to weld so we let them...






Then threw some filler on the hump and welded it in...





Posted By: SilverFrost Cuda

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 04/05/08 08:08 PM

Welding in flip flops!
I think the most pain I was ever in was when I was welding a piece on my mower deck and I had shorts on, a peice of red hot slag went down into my work boot. I couldn't untie it fast enough!
Posted By: Big Bad Bee

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 04/05/08 08:35 PM

Great pix of your dates getting involved. Don't ever lose those.

If the one with the bare legs gets rust bullet on her legs, it should wear of just about in time for prom.
Posted By: ixelerate

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 04/06/08 04:52 AM

you guys are lucky...your girls are hot AND they like cars...my girl wont even get in my car...lol
Posted By: JonsGottaDusta

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 04/06/08 05:50 AM

Quote:

you guys are lucky...your girls are hot AND they like cars...my girl wont even get in my car...lol



Time to find a new one

Thats cool that they wanted to help. The roof is looking awesome!
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 04/06/08 11:31 PM

SilverFrost Cuda Well they did it burn free! They did understand exactly what proper attire was You should see my sweat pants and jeans, they are swiss cheese, kinds like this car

Quikfish Yea ive gotten some of that stuff on me, its nasty. It sticks and if you try to peal it off it takes the skin right with...

ixelerate Well that would be a problem for me. You need a girl who has a little interested and WILL get in the car. But hey if she works for you good for you man!

JonsGottaDemon Thanks Jon! The roof fit great, that was a nerveracking job, if i messed that one up well, we would be screwed to say the least.

Posted By: ixelerate

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 04/06/08 11:45 PM

Quote:

Quote:

you guys are lucky...your girls are hot AND they like cars...my girl wont even get in my car...lol



Time to find a new one

Thats cool that they wanted to help. The roof is looking awesome!



haha yea...except this one time over the summer that I went to a cruise-in and left with 3 girls in my car
Posted By: GTX MATT

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 04/06/08 11:51 PM

Quote:

GTX MATT The motor is done or should i say runs Tranny is up in the air yet, dont really know...

So we got a little bit more done tonight but had some helpers, our prom dates. They asked us if they could help


Here is ryan and jeni...



my girlfriend rachel and me...



They put some more rust bullet to the inside...


Meanwhile ryan and i welded the roof and quarter piece in...



They wanted to weld so we let them...






Then threw some filler on the hump and welded it in...









Sounds like its ready to me! Nice looking gals. Theyre not from Chevy families now are they!? Nice to see them interested in the cars.
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 04/07/08 05:29 PM

No Chevy families, but not car families either so we have got to turn them mopar!
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 04/08/08 01:52 AM

We got a good amount done today, nothing really worthy of pictures except what is shown. First off we finished off the front end from the radiator inner fenders forward by completely grinding all welds. Welded in this brace which we forgot about...




Then striped the door jams on both sides, this was a task with all the putty that was in there. On top of that not to our surprise we found more rust and pin holes





And finally we tacked the drip rail back on





Posted By: hotairballoonpilot

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 04/08/08 02:42 AM

And finally we tacked the drip rail back on









I see you are drinking heavy there! Diet sun pop orange drink I think? Lookin good guys! keep going! I wish ya all the luck keeping the girls involved with the cars! They are more fun when ya both are into them! I had the wife help me paint my truck once....once!
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 04/10/08 02:28 AM

hotairballoonpilot We dont have to try to which is good, they ask us too. Most likely because we spend most of our time with the cars and not them right now but they seem to be understanding that we have to try and get it as far along as we can for the carlisle show!


We did some more, mostly grinding, welding, and stripping but here is some pics....





And here is a picture to show the amount of metal work done to the car. This is whats left of a 10 pound roll from the welder






Posted By: mopar346

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 04/10/08 02:37 AM

Great work guys, you have the dedication must of us wish we had. I know you can't post a list but PM me if I can help.
Posted By: 69bronzeT5

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 04/10/08 02:40 AM

Looks awesome guys!!!!

You guys are on a roll. You guys welded and fabbed alot in the last little while..all I did was put the fender on my 69
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 04/10/08 02:54 AM

Looks great! This and the 62-65 b-body thread are my two favorite all-time
Posted By: sunroofgtx

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 04/10/08 04:18 AM

Hey, when is prom ?? Looking great. I think the girls will only love you for your car..
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 04/10/08 04:15 PM

Thanks guys for all the support! The 10lb roll coming to a near end goes to show how much we welded on the car and all the work


sunroofgtx Rick Prom Is May 30th. We hope to have her painted by then
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 04/12/08 04:56 AM

Well lately the project has just been welding and grinding stuff that we never finished. But we still do have some metal work to do. First i finished the fab on the new inner tub...



Pretty much welded up the drip rail...



Then on to fixing the rusted roof



Cut most of the trashed metal...



Then laid in the the first piece...



Will get some more done tomorrow!
Posted By: 69Cuda340S

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 04/13/08 02:11 AM

Looking good Steve. Keep us updated on the progress. Looking forward to seeing that car in paint.
Posted By: BBCoronet

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 04/13/08 02:37 AM

Quote:

Looks great! This and the 62-65 b-body thread are my two favorite all-time

Hey Big Mike I missed that one,....Got a link? >>>

You guys are doing an awesome job on the Bee ,...Cant wait to see the finished product
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 04/13/08 05:18 PM

Thanks guys!

We got a little more done today. Welded up the hinge backings and put some more on the roof!




Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 04/15/08 02:30 AM

Okay guys we are getting closer to completion of metal work every day, instead of replacing the rear pan with one we dont have we decided to weld shut all the holes and patch the one needed area...






Then we took out the front suspension. We used the old man's just suspension torsion bar remover which worked out well after we spent 45 minutes trying to figure out why it would not budge. Turns out a stupid forgetful step of releasing the tension from the Lower control arms...




Posted By: ixelerate

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 04/15/08 02:35 AM

wow you guys are something to be said for motivation! This thread is awesome. All I've managed to do in all the time you guys have spent is actually break my brakes! I can't wait to see that finished product! You guys gonna have it at the 'NATS in the young guns corral?
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 04/15/08 02:56 AM

Quote:

wow you guys are something to be said for motivation! This thread is awesome. All I've managed to do in all the time you guys have spent is actually break my brakes! I can't wait to see that finished product! You guys gonna have it at the 'NATS in the young guns corral?



Thats the plan! We will have this in there with some sort of story board Will you be there? If so we'll have to hook up!
Posted By: MonGoo$e

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 04/15/08 03:14 AM

great job!
Posted By: 2Bad360sfromNC

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 04/15/08 01:27 PM

They got any older sisters???

I've been watching your thread for awhile, and I'm really impressed with your work. I got burnt out on my car a few times along the way, and it was nowhere near the task yours is. I'm impressed with how you've stuck with the project and you've really come a long way with it--great job!
Posted By: ixelerate

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 04/15/08 03:15 PM

Quote:

Quote:

wow you guys are something to be said for motivation! This thread is awesome. All I've managed to do in all the time you guys have spent is actually break my brakes! I can't wait to see that finished product! You guys gonna have it at the 'NATS in the young guns corral?



Thats the plan! We will have this in there with some sort of story board Will you be there? If so we'll have to hook up!

\

O yea...im defintely gonna be there! I'm not sure if I'll stick my Charger in the young guns section or not...but we defintely gotta hook up when we get there!
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 04/16/08 03:54 AM

2Bad360sfromNC Thanks! It does help a lot with the words you all say! And for the sisters, yes but they are taken sorry

ixelerate Sounds good! I'll have my 73 out to tear up the roads at night, im sure this one we will h ave out too! I'll have to shoot you a PM closer to august and exchange contact info
Posted By: ixelerate

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 04/16/08 09:51 PM

sounds good...I look forward to the 'nats...see you on Brice Rd.
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 04/17/08 02:33 AM

So we got some more work done today, most of the remainder of the work on the car is just stripping, grinding, and welding those misc holes we missed. Today we took the car outside to blast only to have trouble with it so we just used some paint stripper...




This stuff works great for undercoating, it just boils it right off




This is how we move the car...no body wheels for us



Also welded the wire covers back onto the floor...



Posted By: 72gtx4speed

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 04/19/08 12:34 AM

steve, you guys are still doing a great job. i dug out the upper door ppanels and they are for a se model. the rears wont fit the standard 1/4 window. to bad cause they are nice.

good luck with your quest, sorry i couldn't help.
dan

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Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 04/19/08 06:26 AM

Dan- Thanks for checking, dont sweat it we are no worse off than we were

Got some more done today, welded in the floor patch just have 3 pin holes to fill that are over the frame rail...



Been working on striping this engine bay, its coming pretty good its just a pain uses wire brushes, surface prep pads, sanding discs, and hand sanding



Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 04/20/08 04:50 AM

Got a little bit more done today. I blasted all the tiny cracks and creases with the blaster and came out looking a little darker than usual Then i also pulled the fenders out of storage and used some stripper on them. All i can say is im glad we finally can catch a break, these things are mint, there is no way they are original to the car






Then hung them on the car to give a little future vision






Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 04/22/08 02:12 AM

Alright so we got some more done tonight. First off we finished off the roof...



Started Stripping the doors, hood and rockers...





All started welding he other stupid bracket to the tail panel and trunk...



Posted By: 70shaker6pk

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 04/23/08 12:36 AM

Great work!! You guys are getting alot of work done fast!!!
Posted By: ixelerate

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 04/23/08 02:56 AM

Quote:

All started welding he other stupid bracket to the tail panel and trunk...



stupid...very...and the padding behind it...none the less..it is really important lemme tell 'ya those dang things have been a pain in my a$$
Posted By: CBarge

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 04/23/08 03:05 AM

I just want to say that this is one of the best threads I've ever read. It's better than watching TV! All I can say is that a lot of people can gain inspiration from you guys for tackling their own projects. I look at my Ramcharger and think to myself "I'll never be able to fix that rust"; then I look at what you've done and realize that, if I don't do it myself, it's nobody's fault but mine. I think you're proving a lot of people wrong who have a negative opinion of the "younger generation". You guys rock!

Now, the REAL question, will I be able to see the car at Carlisle and shake your hands?
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 04/29/08 02:53 AM

ixelerate I agree a very annoying and stupid bracket but ties that back end together more than anything else. Taking it apart i realized how important they are.

CBarge Thanks! We actually were joking about getting sending out a letter to Disovery, TLC, or Speed Channel about getting them over here to tape a show of how the average guy works on a car for the next project we do. No fancy lifts and every tool under the sun, just the basics and rolling on your back The project has also inspired us as we can see our own skills growing from the start to the end and how much we have learned about doing the cars in the future. And yes you will see it there no matter its condition. Ed, the coordinator for carlisle, wants it they no matter what its like. I know there is not much time left but i can see it getting done. Many may think no way but if we keep putting in our 10 hour work days like we have i think we can get her pretty darn close! Hope to see you there!
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 04/29/08 03:24 AM

Have not been able to post in awhile due to nothing worthy of pictures, just grinding and hand stripping tiny little areas. But here is some of that stuff that we have been working on and some...


Had to make some wheel tub patches then sit them in and weld them up...





Pulled the rear out of the car(sits on a crate and two jack stands), hard to see it here but its so crammed in here that its the best shot i could get...



Got these bad boys all grinded and welded to the trunk floor...




Have worked hours on cleaning out the trunk drain area buy hand, this is why it would be nice to have a the car dipped


Need to update the price total on the car so here it is...

Expenses:
Car Cost - $1500
Deck lid (thanks to moparmarks) - $100
Front Grilles (thanks to moparmarks) - $50
Sidemarkers (4) - $60
383/727 combo - $300
Parts Car - $300
F/R Bumpers - $75
Trunk Extensions - $150.48
Complete Interior kit - $626.72
Shipping for above three - $79.35
Rear defrost unit - $20
Parts Car (second one) - $150
Dash Pad - $25
Dual Horns and Front Wiring Harness - $25
4 Speed Hump - $105.38
Shipping for above - $16
Rustbullet and accessories - $205.72
Shipping for above - $24.66


Total - $3582.46

Sold/unused items:
Front Frame Rails - $500
Front Frame Rails(second parts car set) - $500
Front Grilles - $126
Four Speed Console - $539.99
Misc. Parts in/on Parts car $76.57


Grand Total - $1769.90

Posted By: GTX MATT

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 04/29/08 03:29 AM

Quote:

No Chevy families, but not car families either so we have got to turn them mopar!



Lucky you, Ive got to deal with one from a Chevy family. She does like the Mighty Mopar satin jacket I wear though...

Keep up the good work.
Posted By: CBarge

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 04/29/08 04:27 AM

Keep us posted as to where they're gonna put you in the show, I have a habit of getting glazed-over eyes by sat. afternoon and usually end up missing stuff. We definitely want to check out your work. Keep the updates coming!
Posted By: Sunroofcuda

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 04/29/08 04:38 AM

Did you guys finish the driver's quarter patch (in front of the wheel)? Let's see a photo of that one if you got it done. I always envisioned that one on my Hemi car, but of course never got the chance.

Keep up the good work. (A rebody would have been much easier - this seems never ending).

-Eric
Posted By: JonsGottaDusta

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 04/29/08 05:00 AM

Its lookin good Steve, have you named the car yet? Something like BarrelCuda?

I hope you guys get a mad awesome article in Mopar Muscle or Hot Rod when this thing is done.
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 04/30/08 04:05 AM

CBarge I am sure Ed will post something up saying where it will be, he will know long before me!

Sunroofcuda Eric, Yes we did, if you go to page 15-17 you can see all the work done to even place her in there! But I will also attach a pic of it here...

JonsGottaDemon No names yet, but the common phrase is "I hate this car" when working on it




Posted By: DynoDave

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 05/03/08 11:01 PM

Quote:

JonsGottaDemon No names yet, but the common phrase is "I hate this car" when working on it




Posted By: juicedcuda

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 05/04/08 01:16 AM

what did you guys use to strip the undercoating off of the inner fenders?
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 05/04/08 01:57 PM

juicedcuda - We used the aircraft remover. It works great, first coat takes the undercoating off then the second takes the paint
Posted By: juicedcuda

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 05/04/08 02:31 PM

Quote:

juicedcuda - We used the aircraft remover. It works great, first coat takes the undercoating off then the second takes the paint



Thanks, going to give that a try.
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 05/04/08 11:00 PM

Been finishing off the welds and grinds and today scuffed the passenger quarter and laid the first batch of filler on. Kind of exciting knowing that the body is past metal work. Still have a couple of minor things to do plus anything on the panels removed which need attention(not much repair on those)...



Prior to that when i was cleaning out all the low spots i found this. I just though it was pits with filler in it, no just some big old holes...


Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 05/06/08 02:34 AM

Alright guys we got some more done today. First off Ryan finished stripping the back end of paint...


Then Greg finished stripping the door and we bolted it on for a full body mock up to check gaps. It still needs adjustment but we will wait till everything else is hung...



Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 05/06/08 02:43 AM

So today we got a nice present from member Ryan_340. A dual exhaust rear valance, beat up a little but nothing we cant fix. Here is The one he sent and the one we had from the parts car. We will be making one from the two...



The first step was to address the rust on the one we will ultimately be using. Drilled out the spot welds and switched the brackets...



Then mocked it up to make sure the angle of the bracket was correct...



Then cut out the exhaust cutouts and cleaned them up, as you can see they are pretty beat up too...




Then layed them in and tacked them up. The duals will look ten times better!




Thanks again to member Ryan_340! He helped us out big time by donating this piece!
Posted By: Ryan_340

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 05/06/08 02:49 AM

Hey Steve, im glad you guys could get some use out of that valance. Keep up the excellent work!
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 05/08/08 02:43 AM

Ryan_340 Thanks again Ryan that thing did do wonders for us. That was a huge help and has been put to some good use! Thanks again!
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 05/08/08 02:51 AM

well we got all the stuff in bolted on (except the hood just laid on) and we are going to start checking out our gaps and go from there. Here is some pictures, this thing looks like a car






Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 05/08/08 02:56 AM

I'm in the middle of a project myself. Its definitely not as big as the one you guys are undertaking but it still gets frustrating at times.
Every time i look at this thread and see the work you have taken on, it gives me restored hope that i will in fact get this car finished one day and there is nothing that gets thrown at me that i can't overcome!
Thanks guys
Posted By: migsBIG

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 05/08/08 03:03 AM

I have a few names for it:


"PIECES"

"Patches"

"Daydream"

"Badbee"

"Vampire" (because it's sucking your social life right out of you!).


Keep up the good work.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 05/08/08 03:05 AM

Quote:



"Vampire" (because it's sucking your social life right out of you!).






A social life is overrated IMO
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 05/08/08 03:19 AM

Big Mike Thanks, we get frustrated a lot but then we just work on something else and when we get over it we just suck it up and do it!

migsBIG Believe it or not we still have a social life We still go out on weekends and have a good time I like the names too we should get a license plate made up with some
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 05/13/08 02:28 AM

Well guys havent done too much exciting just bondo work. The lower drivers quarter is extremely wavy even after hammers and dollys so it does need quite a bit of attention with bondo. I am masking it off by body lines to try and make them as crisp as possible. Here is the first section on and then the second taped off...



Then to get the kink in the side of the quarter better it was masked off again, yes there is a lot there but better more than not enough. Just need to start with everything high to help build the lines up then can slowly knock them down...



Then we have a cow as a hood. The thing has multiple dings and a lot of pitting and still more needs added...



Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 05/13/08 02:33 AM

Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 05/20/08 02:13 AM

Well guys not much new, these panels are just a pain being that they are/were so rough. Got the tailpanel done though




Posted By: mopar346

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 05/20/08 02:40 AM

Man this post is so encouraging. Yall are learning so many lessons that will serve you well in life. The stories alone will be priceless....."Well I remember when I was a teenager, we built a car and it ran on gas".

Great job guys, you should be proud.
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 05/22/08 11:25 PM

mopar346 Thanks! Well i hope gas cars are still around then but who knows with todays world.

Just been doing bondo work and finally got around to cleaning the roof. It is remarkably strait and required very little filler. We are beginners so we will get help to point out some spots we missed by a pro that i intern for. It does need some back at the seems but i wanted to wait until i lead them up to do that.



Can you say redneck lift? (still have more to add but need a couple more boys over to be able to get it that high)



Posted By: bigsexy440

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 06/11/08 07:56 PM

Any update?

I haven't been on the site in a while...
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 06/17/08 04:11 PM

Been very busy lately so i havent made any updates. The end of the year was crazy with school and then we just had senior week at the beach. But since then we have done some more bondo work started in on the doors some and while i was at the beach our buddy wes and the old man made up some of these brackets to move the car. The car is now in a body shop where i interned at during the school year and i will be going in there to work on the car. He has a better compressor, tools and his knowledge to see stuff. Plus the paint room. I'll snap some more pics thursday when i get back from my college orientation!





Then since it is to be a four speed i has our buddy wes plasma cut this so we can put it in the car!



Posted By: sunroofgtx

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 06/17/08 07:09 PM

Awesome, for any referances, check out my 4 speed in a weekend install guide, back in the archives..
Posted By: JonsGottaDusta

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 06/18/08 04:19 AM

Looking great Steve. I tell everyone I know about this project.

Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 06/19/08 02:19 AM

Thanks guys! The paint prep and paint process will move very fast now that its in a better place were it can go strait to priming! Will get pics of where the car is tommarrow
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 06/21/08 04:51 PM

Here is some pics of the car at the New Location...



It goes much fast here due to the larger variety of tools and speed of the compressor.
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 06/21/08 04:53 PM

This morning I met with Jamie Passon of Passon Performance. I drop of my tranny that we are borrowing from my challenger. He is being a huge help with his knowledge and giving us a free rebuild for the tranny! He is also helping with advice on how to do the pedal conversions and getting the correct parts for it all to work. Check him out at http://www.passonperformance.com/

Posted By: NigelTufnel

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 06/21/08 05:34 PM

To paraphrase Robert Duvall in Apocalypse Now:

"I walked up, and that smell, that Rage Gold smell, the whole hood... it smelled like....

Victory... Someday this war's gonna end..."


By platelicker at 2008-06-21

Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 06/22/08 05:33 PM

NigelTufnel I know victory will be great, heck i can already see victory in just what is done. Its come a long way
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 06/22/08 05:37 PM

Well here is the deal for the tranny conversion. I have a bunch of stuff from my challenger as it is an original 4 speed. So i am donating it all to the bee since that car will not be done for years. Here is some of the stuff laid out...



The donor, thanks so much mr. challenger




And im starting in on the 4 speed pedal conversion from b to e body. A huge thanks to Jamie from Passon Performance for telling me how to do it...




It seems pretty simple but i have to blast everything first. So i will head over to wes' farm to blast it
Posted By: sunroofgtx

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 06/23/08 01:36 AM

Lets see the paint !!

https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...e=1&fpart=1
Posted By: JamiePasson

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 06/23/08 01:01 PM

Steve,
You got your homework done already! Good job!
Now remember what I said to do and then bring the parts back to the shop Saturday and we will get them back together for you so that you have a working set! Don't forget about the rods...
Jamie
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 06/28/08 05:22 PM

Rick- The paint is nearing. Hold out just a little longer!

Jamie- Thanks a lot for everything. I cant wait to get this thing in. I'll be in touch once i get a paycheck
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 06/28/08 05:26 PM

Alright guys! Been very busy so i havent had time to post pics. Here is some from a few days ago on the filler work. Its all but done now...








Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 06/28/08 05:30 PM

Today I went up to Passon Performance. I picked up my trans and had Jamie Assemble the pedals since hes the pro!

Before I went I blasted and painted all the parts...



And Here is the final product produced by Passon. I cant wait to drive it, and you know its done right because Passon built it...



Here is a picture of myself and the man responsible for all of this great help and donations!



Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/04/08 04:53 PM

Alright guys carlisle is approaching fast! I cant believe it at all. We will have the car there no matter what so stop by and say hello and tell us who you are so we know. It will not be hard to miss. It will most likely be the only car there in primer in the young guns class! But anyways here is some more updates on the car. Its hard to get them online since im extremely busy but these are a few days old...

First task was to find a front valance. A trip to mopar marty's salvage yard and we found one. Rough but nothing we cant use! Here it is after being straitened out...


Then stripped and mudded up...


Leaded up all four corners of the roof! Its not too hard once you get the balance of heat right...


Then threw some skim coats over to get out minor imperfections...




Took apart the front suspensions too and will blast, paint and rebuild...




So who all is going to stop by and say hello at carlisle?
Posted By: 1fastrunner

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/04/08 05:42 PM

Looks Great Steve!
I'm really impressed with what you've accomplished and can't wait to see your project in person. By doing most of it by yourself(and your friends), you're developing skills you can use for the rest of your life.
Jim
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/05/08 01:59 PM

Thanks Jim! We have also learned a lot of ways not to do things as well
Posted By: bschargerse

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/05/08 07:53 PM

great job Steve, see you at Carlisle!
Posted By: JonGottaDemonDad

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/06/08 06:14 PM

Looking good Steve. Too bad people won't even understand the work involved to get that car into primer.
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/06/08 09:28 PM

Thanks Brian and Jon. We will have some sort of display there too give people an idea of what was involved in getting it to where it is...
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/06/08 09:35 PM

Well here is another update. When i turned the hood over the other day i found some rust that i had not seen before. So i have to fix that up really quick...

The donor hood, much thanks to John Miller...


The Bad...



The new...



The result needing grinding...



Now i have to get back to work
Posted By: moparpollack

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/06/08 10:56 PM

By the time you finish that car it will be a Miller Super Bee from the majority of wire feed in the car. Good on you for taking on the project.
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/07/08 05:57 PM

It will be pretty close i think we have used about 15lbs of wire
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/07/08 05:59 PM

Well the suspension for the front end we etched and then primed. Just have to get it paint and the rear done yet so we have wheels for the show




Also i dont have pictures since i forgot my camera but everything except the hood, decklid, and body are primed
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/08/08 06:22 PM

Alright guys here is some more updates. Two days till carlisle and we are not even close but hey we tried

All the panels primed minus the hood and decklid...


Finally put the last touch on. The original number plate...


Here is the body ready to be primed. Stay tuned well have a solid color for once


And i finished painting all the suspension this morning too




Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/09/08 04:47 PM

Hey you guys are doing a great job, Im 16 and currently workin on a 74 charger and was wondering if you had any driver side floor pans that would fit or know of a place where I could get one cheap (Im low on money). If you could let me know that would be great. The only junkyard that has mopars here, likes to take all the parts from them and leave nothing. He is a big mopar guy. So I was wondering if you can help, if not thats fine. Thanks, and good luck on your two cars.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/09/08 04:50 PM

It's really coming together nicely
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/09/08 06:24 PM

Great news....PRIMER!





I also undercoated some of the car...



Gotta get it rolling tonight after work, best bet is if you see me this weekend i might be sleeping in a chair behind it. So just tap me
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/09/08 06:26 PM

Thanks dodge1974charger Best bet would be to search online or ebay. The make the cheaper repop floors for like 129 a side a think. Do you need the front or rear?
Posted By: CBarge

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/10/08 12:41 AM

Lookin' good! Really looking forward to seeing your work. Leaving work tomorrow at 1 and heading right down...I'll be looking for ya!
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/10/08 03:45 AM

The front section, right where the pedals are and right behind the drivers seat, where the rear passenger's feet would be. Those two spots are completly gone. I've been workin day and night on the 1/4's and trunk, and finally got those done and now workin on the floor. My passenger side is like new, which is good. By the way your car is lookin' good! Thanks, Nick
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/10/08 11:35 AM

Alright guys i have been up all night with my brother and havent been to bed so here is your last update before carlisle...


Sorry no pics

Get your butt there and say hello. Its going to be in the young gun class
Posted By: DusterKrazy

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/10/08 03:39 PM

Quote:

Alright guys here is some more updates. Two days till carlisle and we are not even close but hey we tried

All the panels primed minus the hood and decklid...



(((Looks good..what did you paint the k member with?)))))))
Finally put the last touch on. The original number plate...


Here is the body ready to be primed. Stay tuned well have a solid color for once


And i finished painting all the suspension this morning too






Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/14/08 05:15 PM

DusterKrazy Its a single stage urethane paint by nason (cheap stuff)
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/14/08 05:22 PM

Well guys we are back from carlisle and i did get to meet a few of the members who have been following and who even donated parts to the cause. This is what she looked like up there...








Now that she is home we get to take all of it apart again
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/14/08 05:33 PM

So some cool things happened up at carlisle as far as for the bee.

First off Mike Ross from B/E & A helped us out by giving us donations and huge discounts. He has got some extremely nice parts and is a great guy so check his website out... www.beaparts.com




Also Rick AKA SunroofGTX gave us the correct Z bar that we will need for the car...



Also got a package in the mail from MidPenMopar. Its a seat covering kit



We planned on having the car have painted bumpers so i managed to find some original rubber bumpers in the swap meet. They are pretty darn nice and i think we got a deal for only $150



Posted By: 9 Sec Phill

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/14/08 06:24 PM

The car is looking great Steve. I will have to agree with you that Mike Ross is Ok, Was that him with you in the picture or his clone? JK...Nice score of parts too, Did you get that converter?....Phill
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/14/08 06:49 PM

I was happy to get to see this car in person. It's really come a long way
Were you wearing a Ray Barton shirt on sat? I thought it was you. I was gonna say hi but wasn't sure
Posted By: sunroofgtx

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/14/08 07:43 PM

Glad to help, Steve. I think your car was worthy of a NOS z bar anyway..Actually , near NOS, used slightly, hardly used , whatever..LOL Nice hanging with thou and your brother and friends..Can't wait for the Nats to do some cruising.
Posted By: HEMICUDA

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/14/08 10:00 PM

Don't forget what you told me Steve, the engine will be in and running by the Nats! Even if your sitting on a milk crate.

Seriously, you're doing a great job Steve and keep up the great work.
Posted By: sunroofgtx

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/14/08 10:11 PM

Mike, thought you were older and hair was shorter !! I guess I've been buying parts from Steve the whole time ! Wow ... Mike is a class guy and company as well..
Posted By: BCSharp

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/14/08 10:37 PM

I've been following this thread the whole time and have been impressed by the described progress, but haven't been able to look at any of the pictures for the last 6 months! Can anyone repost a couple of recent pics on the board? My server I have to use blocks all the photos from image hosting sites but not ones actually on moparts. I could also use a little inspiration for my 71 for when I get home!
Posted By: new bee

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/14/08 11:42 PM

This has easily been my favorite thread of all time on Moparts. You guys did an amazing job. It looks like you handled all the work on your own, and learned volumes of information and skills along the way. I cannot wait to see the continuing progress.
This entire time I wish I had some parts to donate. Since I don't, accept my congratulations on making many of us like myself look utterly lazy in comparison.
Seriously, nice job!
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/15/08 02:35 PM

9 sec Phill I never got back there to find the converter. Must have sold. I will have to check out some online

Big Mike Thanks and yea i was wearing that

sunroofgtx Well it will get some good usage that is for sure. The Nats is right around the corner and i still have tons of work to do to the Challenger too
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/15/08 02:39 PM

HEMICUDA Thanks mike! I think that would have to be our seat no matter what

BCSharp Here is a current picture of the car...

new bee Thanks we have learned an amazing amount of information throughout the build. You will always learn something new!

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Posted By: JonsGottaDusta

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/15/08 06:42 PM

Wow, you amaze me Steve. Your doing an awesome job. The car looks great!
Posted By: BCSharp

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/15/08 11:04 PM

Looking good! Seeing pics like that makes me all that much the more inspired to finish my R/T. I've been on the fence between getting the body and paint professionally finished on mine, or getting a new challenger and continuing chipping away with the body work myself. I've got a few more weeks to ponder before I get home but in the last few days I've been leaning heavily towards getting the charger done. Life has a tendency of slowing down projects, but I do love the feeling of doing something myself though! I'm sure you're very familiar with that feeling by now!
Posted By: satgtx

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/16/08 05:33 PM

Steve and friends, awesome job on a car that apprears to have needed just about everything. It is funny that i have known you for a few years but did not know it was you doing this to the car. good luck on finally finishing it. Is that your truck or your fathers? way cool everything.
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/16/08 05:41 PM

Thanks Jon and BC!

satgtx It really did need everything. Every exterior panel has been replaced and/or patched including some interior structure pieces. How the frame and original fenders are as nice as they are is unknown to me That truck is actually mine i bought it when i turned 18. I think i have like $1800 paid on it and $5000 in mods since i bought it
Posted By: migsBIG

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/16/08 06:07 PM

Dude, you got skills even the most trained restored wishes he had. Still, will it be ready for the prom NEXT year? Probably soo.

Be sure to post a want/donation ad in the 1971+ b-body section so we can see if there is anything we can help you with.
Posted By: 69Cuda340S

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/16/08 07:40 PM

Steve, I saw your car there but did not see you around at the time. I was very impressed by the quality of the work; it really looks nice, solid, and straight. I did see the car at your house during the BBQ last year before you started and I am amazed at what you have accomplished.
Posted By: cogen80

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/16/08 07:44 PM

saw the car at carlisle. your doing a great job.
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/17/08 01:45 AM

migsBIG I dont know about that but thanks a lot. It will be done hopefully by then. Maybe we can sneak in

69Cuda340S Thanks hopefully if you can make it up to ours this year well have her painted up for you to see
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/17/08 04:06 AM

Alright guys now that shes home i had to take her all back apart to get back to work

Threw on some guide coat...



Finished undercoating the bottom side of her...


Were on the fun road to paint

Posted By: ixelerate

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/17/08 04:16 AM

ill tell ya the undercoating on my '72 has kept it nice and rust free! good choice to use it!
the only unfortunate thing is that it adds some weight...
Posted By: BCSharp

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/18/08 11:58 PM

Quote:


the only unfortunate thing is that it adds some weight...



That just means you get to add more power!
Posted By: dmz73

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/19/08 03:15 AM

I have been watching this thread for quite a while. I am glad you are taking this on. Nice work!
Keep up the positive mental attitude.
Anything can be done. Time and Patience are a restorer's best friend.
Good equation:
No extra cash + plenty of time + resources, add knowledge car saved.

Kudos.
Dan
Posted By: CBarge

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/19/08 03:19 AM

It was good talking with you at the show, I can only hope that I can acquire some mad welding and metalwork skills the way you have. And I still wonder if you really just taught yourself..
Posted By: NAS Backyard

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/19/08 06:24 AM

WOW, now I think I'm finally putting a face to a name, is this you? Still running the bent wheel?

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Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/19/08 05:23 PM

Thanks Guys. I can assure you it was all self taught, but lets think after one 10 lb roll you have a lot of practice.

NASbackyard Yes that is me. I got new rims for the rear to play it safe. I had the olds on the bee
Posted By: 1968 Charger B5

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/20/08 05:37 PM

Us at the show man, the golf cart [Edited by Moparts - Keep it clean] was hilarious! More good times at the nats to come!

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Posted By: 1968 Charger B5

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/20/08 05:39 PM

Oh yea show to link to Chris's nasty burnout with the 57, I'll make sure he gets the link as well. He was asking for it, hahaha
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/21/08 12:39 AM

Rick,

Nice picture of the Carlisle group there. We will sure have some good times at the Nats. Your taking your car right?

Here is the link...
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=511630417102
Posted By: 73ChargerSE

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 08/05/08 02:45 AM

Any work done on the car lately? Looking forward to more progress. Good job so far from another Young Gun.

Paul
Posted By: nakita7

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 08/05/08 04:10 AM

Ahhh...to be young again with unlimited time...good job boys.
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 08/12/08 10:28 PM

hey guys been slacking a little been very busy between nats and now getting ready for college. Updates will slow since i am going to West Virginia and cannot work on it all the time! But stay tuned!
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 09/02/08 02:33 AM

Wow!!

Unbelievable progress Nick!, If you get bored while you're away and can't work on your car, feel free to follow the progress on mine

3rdGDC.Com

It's more that a little wordy but I am trying to ducument EVERYTHING as best as I can.

I look forward to more from this thread, I have been checking in on it from time to time and will continue to do so.
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 09/09/08 04:21 AM

eckertc1 Thanks! The project looks good. Looks like you have yourself a pretty decent car to work with. Heck your parts car is restorable by east coasters
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 09/09/08 04:54 PM

Quote:

Heck your parts car is restorable by east coasters



Not anymore it's not

The whole car will now fit in the back of my pickup in one load
Posted By: jpilone

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 09/14/08 07:33 PM



How about an update?
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 09/23/08 11:00 PM

Quote:



How about an update?



The only thing i can say is that i bought some of the R/T tail lights for the car. I like the look of them better. I also picked up some shifting rods, the correct shifter mech, and the mounting plate. I'm at WVU an thats to far from home for me to keep on the project. I will be getting on some more body work when i get home for thanksgiving and continuing in december. Mark my words now:

This car WILL be painted by the end of the holiday break (jan 12 i believe)

Steve
Posted By: 70Coronet500Vert

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 09/24/08 10:33 AM

Yo

Do you have a complete auto tunnel in any of the carcasses you have gone through restoring this Charger?

I could use one
Posted By: erick72

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 09/25/08 04:23 AM

hey steve.

im 17.i am redoing a 72 roadrunner clone.


where you at the nats on brice road saturday night and you came in that parking lot with the huge crowd and did a burnout in your challanger and people where trying to slide it side to side?

that pic of you and your challenger reminded me.
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 09/25/08 05:09 AM

70Coronet500Vert I will send you a PM.

erick72 Yes that was me. Sadly i went to heath but it was a blow since my crank pulley had a gouge in it and would throw belts. On the way back i was just going to cruise through and check it out but decide i was close enough to home. So i did the burnout and didnt do a good one since my belt issue which caused me to keeep it at 2500 rpms. The nats was horrible with the car this year, to many problems and not enough time for burnouts...
Posted By: ixelerate

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 10/08/08 11:16 PM

Hey steve I feel ya on going away to school and leaving your car.....Im at ohio state and I cant even have any car my freshman year
Posted By: DynoDave

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 11/15/08 04:53 PM

Quote:

Quote:



How about an update?



The only thing i can say is that i bought some of the R/T tail lights for the car. I like the look of them better. I also picked up some shifting rods, the correct shifter mech, and the mounting plate. I'm at WVU an thats to far from home for me to keep on the project. I will be getting on some more body work when i get home for thanksgiving and continuing in december. Mark my words now:

This car WILL be painted by the end of the holiday break (jan 12 i believe)

Steve



Looking forward to those updates at Holiday time.
Posted By: dangina

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 11/24/08 07:31 AM

just got through the whole build - car looks great! keep up the good work and you'll have the girls lining up to take them to the prom in that car!!!
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 11/24/08 08:36 PM

Alright guys nothing too spectacular but its something. Starting in on the parts resto over my thanksgiving break. The body will be over christmas break.

My task currently is to make a Radio delete gauge cover. The reason why is because i cant afford to get a good working stock radio and i personal am not a fan of sticking a modern head unit in the middle of a vintage dash.

Here is the cars gauge cluster...


Cluster cover removed and the donor piece...


I am cutting the pieces from the sides of the donor because these are flat...


Here is all three pieces that i need to fill in the radio area...


I have to wait for some plastic to be melted overnight in order to finish the bezel. So in the mean time i started on the tailights. I striped them and shot them with some etching primer. They will need some work due to some dings and dents in them...


Thats all for now will most likely have some more updates later tonight...

Steve
Posted By: 71WMFJ6

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/06/08 11:03 PM

Steve,

I just found this thread and I just wanted to drop a quick line that what you doing is just great. Keep up the good work.

You can see more of my 71 Bee at:

http://www.71superbee.com/Rick_Stump/

71WMFJ6
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/07/08 03:05 AM

71WMFJ6 - Thats a nice car you have there! Love the Sassy Grass color
Posted By: sunroofgtx

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/09/08 03:32 AM

Steve, keep going.. Great work. How did the bezel come out ?? How did you melt it ? Are you putting in the 71 383 ? Merry Christmas
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/12/08 11:09 PM

sunroofgtx Rick the bezels is really only in the beginning stages but the pieces are in. What i used was broken grill pieces from a cuda grill some acetone and a glass jar. The acetone melts the plastic over time and then i applied it on he sides of the pieces put them together and through some on to since it was not perfectly flat...Here is some pics...








As far as the 71 383 i dont think its going in. I think i am going to put in a 440 that we built 5 years ago and its just been sitting. It was built and then put on the dyno and wrapped in plastic.


Steve
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/17/08 03:11 AM

Well the road to paint is underway. Moved the car to Brooks Auto Restoration(he lets me work out of his shop and guides me to do the correct things). Today Sanded it with 220 and found some imperfections on the car. Really not all that bad. Addressed some of the welded areas by filling them over too...Stay tuned paint if near!




Posted By: 68KillerBee

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/17/08 07:34 AM

Good Stuff man. I keep forgetting about this forum, just happened upon it while messing around on the internet when i should be studying for finals. Hows the challenger? When do you have to go back to college? keep up the good work
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/18/08 12:34 AM

68Killerbee Yea i love the idea of the new forum but i dont think too many people have noticed it! The challenger is being neglected and sits in the garage and is used as a shelf to store things on. It did get a complete new drivetrain(not my drivetrain the old mans on borrow). I am home till Jan 11th
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/18/08 12:46 AM

Today i glazed over a lot of the engine bay. there was lots of pits in the metal and it just would have looked bad if paint the way it was. Filled in all the pics and fixed the firewall cowl seem. It was pretty rough so i ground the welds a little more and filled it over so its smooth as glass...




Also started filling in all the spots that the guide coat revealed. But the biggest task is the passenger lower quarter body line. The body line was off some since i made the quarter. Used some filler to try to reshape it and its coming along nicely!


Posted By: Scott Carl

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/19/08 07:22 PM

Quote:

The Goal: Have the car completely done for our 2008 Senior Prom



Gonna make the 2009 prom??
Just yankin' I got no room to talk. Mine looks pretty much the way it did over 3 years ago when I brought it home, minus the vinyl top. It runs (sort of) and it has new brakes;period!
Keep up the good work. Its looking GREAT
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/19/08 10:43 PM

Quote:

Quote:

The Goal: Have the car completely done for our 2008 Senior Prom



Gonna make the 2009 prom??
Just yankin' I got no room to talk. Mine looks pretty much the way it did over 3 years ago when I brought it home, minus the vinyl top. It runs (sort of) and it has new brakes;period!
Keep up the good work. Its looking GREAT



The new goal is the 2010 Prom When its done i will be taking this to that prom...hopefully
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/21/08 04:59 AM

Alright so been working on the body for the past four days. Finally have it too the point where im ready to see what it looks like with a new coat of primer. Will be spraying it monday and then starting to sand again...Here is a few pics...






Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/22/08 11:14 PM

Well today sprayed on three more coats of primer. All went well except of on round three of the roof the paint started to settle and gunked up me throwing some spatter. Had to stop clean out the gun and go at it again...Here is some action shots...


You can see how thick the air is in this picture...


I was very pleased with the results after the second time priming. Lines are a lot crisper and the body looks like new


The engine compartment looks nice now as well. No pits, and no welds everywhere


Sprayed guide coat on the body, left the roof alone since it needs to be hit with a da and primed again because of the spatter on it...


Also got the front valance ready for its second prime...




Posted By: CuriousYella70

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/23/08 01:01 AM

Damn dude -- you're doing amazing work!!

I'm hoping to do what you're doing to my 71 Demon here shortly. Never have attempted body work or painting, but there's nothing like doing it yourself.

Keep up the good work man!
Posted By: WILD BILL

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/23/08 02:35 PM

Looking at it now it's hard to remember or imagine what it looked like whrn you started. It's come a long, long way.

Have you decide what route your gonna take W/ the bumpers and tailights yet. In my imagination I see that car in black, with black bumpers and taillights, and a black stripe kit.

Is that the way your leaning or do you have something else planned.
Posted By: jrwoodjoe

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/23/08 08:07 PM

WOW, serious progress! Looks great. You can come do mine when you're done.

Nice job!

Joe
Posted By: 69Cuda340S

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/23/08 11:58 PM

That body is looking really sharp. Can't wait to see it in color!!
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/24/08 03:13 AM

CuriousYella70 Thanks man! Alls i can say is try it yourself. It takes time to get it right but its a learning expierence. You will learn from it (mostly how NOT to do things ) Best of luck with the project too. Start a thread everyones comments really help you stay on track with it

WILD BILL I look back at the forum once and awhile and always cannot believe the difference. I also always see picture that make me remember stuff that was done. Your thinking for what it will look like is exactly what it will look like. Blacked out. Black body, bumps, R/T lights, stripes, interior. I will be putting on some polished Alum. or chrome wheels, never was a fan of black wheels, thats when it too black, just looks gothic to me

Thanks Joe and Bill. Color Is on the way soon May be painting a few of the pieces here soon. Since its black you really dont have a problem of the panels being different shades


Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/27/08 04:08 PM

Well No color just yet but more prep work pictures...First off the quarter panel extensions had some pits in them so filled them in and smoothed them up, Sanded BEA parts donated mirror, and finished going at the fenders again...





Then sprayed on second coats all of the above pieces and a third on the rear valance...







Wet sanded the body on everything but the roof, resprayed the roof, fixed little imperfections on the body and put some primer over those areas too...





Posted By: 69Cuda340S

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/28/08 04:13 AM

Looking good!
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/30/08 02:07 AM

Thanks Bill!

Well Got the engine bay sanded down and ready for paint completely...



Then went to put the hood and fenders on to check for some gaps and placement of the hinges. The car is going to be painted with the hinges and fenders on so to find the right location of them they were put on and checked for gaps. Well the passenger side hinge is no good. It will not pass the first tooth on there so donor hinges are to be used. You can see the first signs of color. Sprayed black on the areas that are covered up so they have color on them, the rest is left for when the entire car is to be sprayed...



Sanded on the decklid some. It has too large low spots on it, most likely from someone sitting on it but they need some light filler to bring up to par...



Posted By: WILD BILL

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/30/08 04:05 PM





I can't wait




Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/30/08 11:00 PM

Alright so today wasnt anything to much special, but did make progress. Good things happened today...

First before any finishing work was done to the hood i wanted to get the hood pins drilled and mocked up. Got this kit for the car last christmas from my girlfriend



Put the rod in its location then put paint on the top of them and closed the hood to make sure they closed where they should...you can see the dot of black at the top...



Once the main hole was drilled (drilled it larger than factory but think weight savings ) put the gasket down and drilled the four screw holes. Then put the bezel on and threaded the screws...



Also worked on getting the front end aligned. Had to swap hinges today too. I stole them from my challenger so i need to find a set for them. The gaps look good and everything is lining up good as well...



Also sprayed the decklid in primer again and then did the final sand on the valances (paint for them is tommarrow




Posted By: 69Cuda340S

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/30/08 11:29 PM

Can't wait to see color. I still remember that car at your BBQ sitting behind your shed with the floor totally rusted out. I walked back and took a close look and it looked really bad. It didn't look savable from what I remember seeing. What a long way it has come.
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/31/08 11:30 PM

Thanks Bill. It has come a long way and its almost unreal to think its almost one color This car really is not my personal taste but i have so many hours in it that this will be another one to take to the grave
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/31/08 11:36 PM

Well that long awaited day is here (not fully but it is very satisfying...COLOR!

Layed down the basecoat on the valances, quarter extensions, and mirror





Then layed down the clear, it is awesome to see this stuff in color and just think of what it looked like originally






Also in between the drying times did some work to the hood and gave it another coat




Posted By: VITC_GTX

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/01/09 05:50 PM

Color!!!!

Posted By: DynoDave

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/02/09 03:03 PM

This has been so much fun to follow. And now COLOR!
Posted By: LilRedDave

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/02/09 11:23 PM

Color good It's been so long now but what the original colors and what is the combo you decided to go with again?
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/03/09 01:39 PM

Thanks guys! All the painted parts are now buffed and wrapped up awaiting final assembly

LilRedDave The original color of the car was White with vinyl top (color unknown), and it had the rare gunmetal interior
Posted By: 3eighty3

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/04/09 06:56 PM

What an amazing project! I've never seen anyone replace so many small bits and pieces on a car. Thumbs up for saving that one

thomas
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cuda blog
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/04/09 11:22 PM

Thanks Thomas. The car had every panel replaced or patched on it except for the front fenders and frame.

Did some more work. First off the did the final sanding on the roof, doors, and fenders. Fixed some tiny areas on the doors and fenders, will be ready for paint after sanded there...







Also blasted some items that we will need for paint. Did all sorts of little brackets, the sidemarkers, and most importantly BOLTS!




Posted By: 3eighty3

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/05/09 10:46 AM

Great progress Steve! Won't the paint scratch off the bolts once you tighten them?

thomas

_______________________________________________

cuda blog
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/05/09 11:57 AM

Quote:

Great progress Steve! Won't the paint scratch off the bolts once you tighten them?

thomas

_______________________________________________

cuda blog



Yes it will but i am putting all the bolts on the front end NOW so they wont have to be touched after paint
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/05/09 11:32 PM

Alright guys so today i pulled the fenders off the car for the last time. Sprayed them in the areas that will be covered/hard to reach areas. Then did the same to the underside of the inner fenders. Then put them back on with the correct original bolts, aligned the fenders to the hood and doors and now the fenders wont be removed again!







Posted By: 69Cuda340S

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/06/09 02:16 AM

Getting closer!!
Posted By: WILD BILL

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/06/09 02:51 AM

That's what I call attention to details
Posted By: VITC_GTX

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/06/09 03:55 AM

Great work Steve, everyday is a step closer!!

Are you getting ready to head back to school soon?
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/07/09 04:06 AM

Thanks guys! Today drilled some holes in the decklid for a spoiler. I think a front and rear spoiler will really set the car off. Borrowed the rear one from my 71 challenger, will have to do until there is enough money to buy one for the bee...


Then Seem Sealed everything to let it dry over night, then go over the car closely and the big day is thursday





Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/07/09 04:07 AM

Yea im leaving sunday so its crunch time. Gotta get the the stuff done so i have something to do when i get back
Posted By: 71rm23

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/07/09 08:50 AM

What kind of seam sealer did you use?
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/07/09 11:16 PM

Its a 3M product, the guys shop that i working on the thing out of is a 3M diehard, everything is 3M when possible, even the masks
Posted By: 69bronzeT5

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/07/09 11:23 PM

Damn...I wish I had your skills! Being 16, I'm low on money and I can't afford to send my cars to the body shop right now...but I'm kinda afraid to do body work myself...it looks really tough.
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/07/09 11:28 PM

69bronzeT5 Give it a whirl dude. Im lucky enough to have a guy watching over my shoulder whos been doing this stuff the last 40 or so years. But i will tell you its this. Once you get it primed, you can let the guidecoat and your hand do all the work. Its a very long process and you will screw up, its just the nature of things. Try it and if you cant get it well then your out maybe $150 in supplies verse two hours of a shops labor.
Posted By: 68KillerBee

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/08/09 05:21 AM

glad i was bored tonight and decided to look in this forum. car is looking awesome. something to be very proud of. i was just wondering if you had a money update on how much you got in this for people that havent been watchin from the beginning. good luck tomorrow w/ paint
Posted By: Challenger 1

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/08/09 05:33 PM

Are we painting yet?
Posted By: WILD BILL

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/08/09 06:06 PM

Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/09/09 01:22 AM

Well its here, PAINT! Some basecoat action shots...






A clear action shot...




And the final product after the base and clear...




Sorry got tease ya till tommarrow Too foggy


Posted By: Challenger 1

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/09/09 02:08 AM

Wow...I'm sure you have a exhaust fan but that's a lot of over spray it looks. Be careful breathing that and that it doesn't find a ignition source.

How's it look?
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/09/09 02:15 AM

Yea there is a fan, the cameras flash just makes it look a lot worse than what it is. It looks good, had a few runs but thats the be expected for a newbie. I'll take some good pics after its buffed out tommarrow
Posted By: VITC_GTX

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/09/09 04:24 AM

Awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Is this your first paint job? I'm really excited to see the final product
Posted By: 3eighty3

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/09/09 10:19 AM

Great going! You've really got guts to do your first job in black!!!Can't wait to see the results.

thomas

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cuda blog
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/09/09 12:32 PM

every1 ready to go surfing!!!!
Posted By: 1fastrunner

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/09/09 02:08 PM

Steve, Your project is coming along great!
It's going to be tougher going back to school not being able to get the rest of it together.
Jim
Posted By: JonsGottaDusta

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/09/09 07:24 PM

We NEED pics!! It looks stellar Steve.
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/09/09 10:42 PM

VITC_GTX Thanks, its my first car body paint job. I did the valances and small trinkets before

3eighty3 Well the theme of the project has kinda been doing the hardest things possible, from sheetmetal to paint

1fastrunner I know jim. Its going from a month of strait super bee to nothing

Pics are going to be posted here now...
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/09/09 10:48 PM

So here is some pictures for you guys. The lighting is a pictures worse enemy. A flash is bad and no flash is bad too...








Posted By: Challenger 1

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/09/09 11:19 PM

Wow!! Looks very straight, great job.
Posted By: 4speeds4me

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/09/09 11:22 PM

Quote:

every1 ready to go surfing!!!!



Well, as I suspected based on the work we've seen him do on this car along the way, surf's NOT up. It'll show better later outside in the sunshine, but it looks like a pretty meticulous and laborious effort was put into blocking. And, under the circumstances, if there were a wave here or there, considering what he's overcome since starting on this car, I, for one, would be ashamed to point it out!

Great Job, man...look forward to seeing it more complete...Spring Break is when?
Posted By: 69Cuda340S

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/09/09 11:30 PM

That looks incredible!! That shine is really something!!
Posted By: 3eighty3

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/10/09 12:23 AM

Looks absolutely spectacular! Congradulations!


thomas
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cuda blog
Posted By: SilverFrost Cuda

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/10/09 01:24 AM

Quote:

every1 ready to go surfing!!!!

The kids been busting his [Edited by Moparts - Keep it clean] on this car for the past year and a half,finishing high school, and going to college. Steve your doing a great job on this car. Your parents should be very proud of you of what you've accomplished in the past 18 months. I think the car looks great and so does the other 99.9% of the people who been following this thread. Pay no attention to comments like that. I'm sure when the car is all done the iceman will change his mind about how the car looks. He probably will even try contacting you about restoring his Omni that makes him a member here on moparts. Keep up the good work!
Posted By: Anonymous

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Posted By: 1Fryedfish

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/10/09 04:00 AM

Quote:

i deal only in real cars that are worth something, i would never put a dime into a 71 and up charger and either should u!!! ps he dosent do all the work himself so stop kissing his butt!!! youll look like a fool!!!



I'm pretty sure he did all the work himself. I'm his brother and have helped out time to time on it and I assure you the work has been done by him. He has been down in the barn late into the night to get this car done. and what do you mean by real cars that are worth something? Lets see your work on your "real" cars and see if it even comes close to what has been done to this car. He didn't pay to have this car done, he did the car himself so lets see your car and maybe we can have a moparts poll

Dave
Posted By: etek

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/10/09 04:51 AM

Quote:

i deal only in real cars that are worth something, i would never put a dime into a 71 and up charger and either should u!!! ps he dosent do all the work himself so stop kissing his butt!!! youll look like a fool!!!



^^^^^ EFF U DUDE!

Car looks awesome - looks like the wet sanding won't take that long. Way to go!!
Posted By: 68KillerBee

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/10/09 05:11 AM

Great job man. What color for the rest of the stuff? stripes, interior...

I can't believe someone honestly wrote that and then backed it up. idiot
Posted By: Scotts72Rallye

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/10/09 05:12 AM

Quote:

Quote:

i deal only in real cars that are worth something, i would never put a dime into a 71 and up charger and either should u!!! ps he dosent do all the work himself so stop kissing his butt!!! youll look like a fool!!!



^^^^^ EFF U DUDE!

Car looks awesome - looks like the wet sanding won't take that long. Way to go!!



The car is looking great Steve!
Finish that car up so you can start on your 73 Chally.
Scott
Posted By: VITC_GTX

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/10/09 05:50 AM

Very impressive! I bet you have a big smile on your face!! Sit back and enjoy how it looks, you deserve it

Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/10/09 06:42 AM

Thanks everyone for the compliments! Spring break is TOO far

The plan for the rest of the car will be black interior, black super bee stripes and then the flat black wing. Also the bumpers will be body color along with the R/T tail light bezels. I want to keep the chrome and polished parts to the windshield trim, door handles, and some big old Cragars or Keystones. Im a big fan of a car with a little rake on it to keep it looking mean.

And to any haters that their may be. If your going to criticize me do me a favor; proof read what your typing, use correct words, and have some facts to back up what your saying. What your saying is exactly where this hobby went wrong. Its not about the money, its about the love of mopars.
Posted By: 4speeds4me

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/10/09 08:19 AM

Quote:

...some big old Cragars or Keystones.



You mean like these?

http://classifieds.castanet.net/showproduct.php/product/327120/cat/335
Posted By: 3eighty3

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/10/09 09:35 AM

Quote:

Its not about the money, its about the love of mopars.



I'll sign that !!!


thomas
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cuda blog
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/10/09 12:44 PM

i agree its about mopars but it should be about the right mopars and anything above 71 is not worth the time or money,
Posted By: 69Cuda340S

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/10/09 01:18 PM

The work done on this car is nothing but spectacular. This is a young guy learning as he goes. He is not writing checks to have a pro do the work, although you'd never know it by looking at the results. This is an accomplishment MOST will never achieve in their life time. Recognize it for what it is. Show others you have some manners.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/10/09 01:56 PM

belive what u want anyways hey i have this bridge i want to sell u!!!
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/10/09 05:14 PM

4speeds4me Yea exactly. Love those things. I think i will have to settle for some repros though.

Posted By: 4speeds4me

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/10/09 05:25 PM

Ya know, Steve, it's funny. When I was your age (and I don't want to talk OR think about how long ago that was or wasn't) Keystones like that were EVERYWHERE...like D-slots, and I couldn't stand them. Now I've got a few years under my belt, and I love them. Go figure. And the ones I posted, love them with their nasty ol' bias on them.
Posted By: Ryan_340

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/10/09 08:20 PM

The Super Bee has certainly came along way since you started, it's looking great. I am begning to think that Theiceman and Cudavert71 are the same guy and that they are clearly jealous of the fine craftsmanship you have put into this car. Keep up the good work!
Posted By: RUNCHARGER

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/10/09 09:02 PM

Great job on this Bee! Negative comments are a sure sign people envy the results of your hard work.

Sheldon
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build *DELETED* - 01/10/09 09:07 PM

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Posted By: 71rm23

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/10/09 09:31 PM

Quote:

i agree its about mopars but it should be about the right mopars and anything above 71 is not worth the time or money,

Well which one is it? If it bothers someone because he's restoring a car that is not the "right mopar" then don't read and or respond to this post. If Steve wants to do it, why does people knock what he's doing? If he wants to restore a car for what he wants and or likes, then don't scrutinize him for it. So what if its not a Hemi 'Cuda. He's not Roger Gibson but at least he's doing something HE wanted to restore. Its nobody's time and money that he's using. I applaud him for taking the initiative to restore a Mopar and to help keep this hobby alive Enough of bashing someone because its not the "right mopar"
Posted By: Ryan_340

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/10/09 09:39 PM

Quote:

im starting to think with all the butt kissing on here that hemichallenger and ryan 340 are the same guy!!! dont be mad at me ever1 dont have to like it, its america ya know little ry ry!!!



Nope, I was just defending a Mopar young gun.
Posted By: 72gtx4speed

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/11/09 01:05 AM

steve, keep up the great work. when i was your age i was out killing brain cells. fortunately i stopped before i killed them all like some morons on here. with youngsters like you this country is headed the right direction.

here is a car that should be junked i guess.

clem

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Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/11/09 01:53 AM

It would be nice to see the two nay sayers go else where to embarrass themselves, its amazing to read such negative garbage and I do think an apology is in order. To the two young lads, keep up the great work you guys are doing an awesome job. This is an undertaking most people would never attempt let alone at the ripe age of seventeen so to anyone who has any further negative comments to make don't bother go somewhere else please.
Posted By: 69bronzeT5

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/11/09 02:27 AM

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69bronzeT5 Give it a whirl dude. Im lucky enough to have a guy watching over my shoulder whos been doing this stuff the last 40 or so years. But i will tell you its this. Once you get it primed, you can let the guidecoat and your hand do all the work. Its a very long process and you will screw up, its just the nature of things. Try it and if you cant get it well then your out maybe $150 in supplies verse two hours of a shops labor.



Well, I have no tools to do it either so that would be more money for me haha. I don't think I'll try it but painting....that's a thing I'd like to try.
Posted By: etek

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/11/09 03:48 AM

Hasta La Vista iceman!!!
(Thanks Mods)
Posted By: 71rm23

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/11/09 04:12 AM

Quote:

Hasta La Vista iceman!!!
(Thanks Mods)

AMEN. He's been sending P.M.'s to me. You'd think he would be "grown up" enough not to be playing elementary school games but I guess not.
Posted By: WILD BILL

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/11/09 05:45 AM

Yeah it's BLACK This has been one of my favorite threads to follow.

Steve, I'ld tell you not to listen to the moron but what do I know, wasting my time with a 71 and a 72 I guess not much
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/11/09 11:55 AM

RIP (ICEMAN) YOULL BE MISSED.......HOPE TO SEE YOU BACK SOON.....................///////////, WERE ARE YOU GOING>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Posted By: Darius

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/11/09 02:33 PM

I will say that this young man inspired me to tackle my own body work and learn to weld my own stuff. I even bought a new welder! I must say his welding skills "progressed" much faster than mine!
This "old fart" thanks you for the motivation.
I COMPLETELY respect your committment and truly understand the amount of work involved to get you to this point.
What we have witnessed here is "The Penalty of Leaderhip!
Posted By: 9 Sec Phill

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/11/09 04:24 PM

Well done Steve, looks killer. ..Phill
Posted By: Fab64

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/11/09 07:59 PM

Excellent job!! I love the '71 B bodies. Keep up the good work.

Roger
Posted By: 1fastrunner

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/11/09 11:53 PM

Looks Fantastic Steve!
When you open your shop, I'll be 1st in line!
Jim
Posted By: marklock

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/12/09 10:13 AM








finally paint on the body, looks great
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/12/09 03:10 PM

Thanks guys! Its nice to have it painted but now progress will be on hold for awhile since i am back in school. Will get some more updates to you when im back and hopefully have it done for carlisle and nats!

Steve
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/12/09 04:53 PM

Nice job, Steve.

I tackled a '71 Barracuda a few years back and I must say you make it look easy! Quarters and a trunk floor were enough to make me think "What have I gotten into?".

I'm currently working on a '63 330 and honestly I don't CARE whether or not it's a popular body style or whether I can get my money back out of it! I'm doing it for ME!

It's great therapy to turn a rusted pile into a finely honed piece of art that I can drive .
Posted By: 71rm23

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/12/09 05:23 PM

Quote:

Nice job, Steve.

I tackled a '71 Barracuda a few years back and I must say you make it look easy! Quarters and a trunk floor were enough to make me think "What have I gotten into?".

I'm currently working on a '63 330 and honestly I don't CARE whether or not it's a popular body style or whether I can get my money back out of it! I'm doing it for ME!

It's great therapy to turn a rusted pile into a finely honed piece of art that I can drive .

GY3 A lesson for the ones who only look for $$$$ in this hobby
Posted By: sogtx

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/15/09 01:46 AM

more mirror finish black pics please

is that the car youre driving cross country ?
Posted By: 1Fryedfish

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/15/09 06:31 PM

pic of the bee and wild thing

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Posted By: 1Fryedfish

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/15/09 06:32 PM

side of the bee

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Posted By: 1Fryedfish

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/15/09 06:34 PM

Last picture

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Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/15/09 08:14 PM

Nice...I cant wait to see it being put back together
Posted By: Red383

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/16/09 01:59 PM

I read through this whole thread the other day and it inspired me to get to working on my car again and I installed the second rear frame rail in it last night. I thought my car was rusty, it's pretty clean compared to what you started with. It looks great!
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/16/09 06:30 PM

Thanks guys! I cant wait to put the car back together either. It will be exciting to say the least!

Its great to inspire people! Glad i could do it, i got lots of inspiration from Garys 71 Challenger thread that was on here a long time ago...

Steve
Posted By: DynoDave

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/16/09 09:27 PM

Man that came out looking nice. Congratulations!
Posted By: QuickBpBp

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/16/09 10:37 PM

Quote:





And to any haters that their may be. If your going to criticize me do me a favor; proof read what your typing, use correct words



you mean there?

Steve,
It turned out nice so far,you should be happy and there will always be critics. It's a great feeling fixing something that keeps turning into a bigger project than you thought it was. It seems like you'll never start re-assembly or stop spending time & $$$. I know first hand read the post about my 71 Plymouth...

https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...1&PHPSESSID
Posted By: 69Cuda340S

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/17/09 02:44 AM

That paint is looking great!!!
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/19/09 07:04 PM

Thanks guys! The paint is just Now just to put it back together without messing it up
Posted By: 71383beep

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/28/09 05:12 AM

Very nice job man. That car came along way. It's great to see another 71 Bee get saved.

You'll love the colored bumpers. For some reason on this body it just looks RIGHT.
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/28/09 12:54 PM

Thanks! I agree with the colored bumpers. Thats why i went with them
Posted By: 71383beep

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/28/09 03:10 PM

I did the same thing with mine. A cool detail I did too was have the bumper welded to the mounting brakets and then filled in the bolt holes so there's no bolts on them. Real clean look.

I figure whats a bit more welding for you! I wish I converted to a 4 speed when I had mine all apart...

Front


Rear
Posted By: DusterKrazy

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/28/09 07:41 PM

Quote:

I did the same thing with mine. A cool detail I did too was have the bumper welded to the mounting brakets and then filled in the bolt holes so there's no bolts on them. Real clean look.

I figure whats a bit more welding for you! I wish I converted to a 4 speed when I had mine all apart...

Front


Rear




That does look really good! I could see about any '71 b body looking great with the body painted bumpers as well, just my
Posted By: 1swingin

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 02/08/09 01:23 PM

Absolutely amazing job! i just went through all 16 pages and was blown away!! u guys are trully mopar men! dont listen 2 all those haters. there just jealous they cant do what you can .
Posted By: 69Cuda340S

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 02/09/09 03:36 AM

Quote:

Now just to put it back together without messing it up



You'll be able to do it. You'll have to lay blankets down and sometimes use masking tape around the areas where you are working. I just took my engine in and out twice on a freshly painted engine compartment and did not scratch it.

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Posted By: 71 FJ6 Charger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 02/09/09 04:29 AM

Looks tough black. Makes me wanna go from lime green to black.
Posted By: 734x4PW

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 02/15/09 09:18 PM

I've been a member for a while, but I usually frequent the "Truck" areas of the site. I just stumbled upon this thread. It has been a pleasure to read through. Kudos to you and your buddies for sticking with a project like this. That takes a lot of "stuff" - I respect that! It's outstanding to see that drive in young people to achieve something that only comes by the dogged determination of sticking with it through thick and thin to make it happen. A great lesson for life, too.

I'm looking forward to seeing the car come to completion. More power to ya!

Mark
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 02/17/09 08:33 PM

Steve next time your home if you need someone to help restore the parts or just an extra hand let me know... actually when is your spring break mine is 7th-whenever so just let me know.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 02/25/09 04:51 AM

Wheeeew... I just stumbled onto this thread and read it from page 1... some project... Amazing job!

I gotta say you and your crew took away a bit of anxiety I was having regarding the metal that needs fixin on my 71 roadrunner.

I'm feeling pretty confident now, at least as long as this thread is available... lol

My 72 (The car in my sig) was in really sad shape at one point in time and I "almost" chopped it up for parts for my 71, well the tables have turned and one might now think the 71 is only kept for parts...

Anywayz... it's good to see people that still have a drive to do as much work as they can rather than paying someone else for services rendered.

Don't worry about putting it all together, I'm sure you've put enough hours into this particular car that you could reassemble it with your eyes closed.

I don't have a garage and built the car in my sig in my driveway.
I put the engine in by myself, at night with only a trouble light. It was like second nature...

Good luck on the reassembly and more importantly "have fun!", I know I did!

Can't wait for your next installment of pics...

Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 03/14/09 10:27 PM

Thanks to everyone! I am home on spring break now and lets hope i can get a lot of work done this week. Stay tuned over the next week as i may have some updates for you!

Posted By: 4speeds4me

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 03/15/09 01:29 AM

Looking forward to it. Almost feel like an addict waiting for his next fix watching this thread!
Posted By: 69Cuda340S

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 03/15/09 01:55 AM

Lets see some more pics of that black beauty. What are you planning to tackle first?
Posted By: 1fastrunner

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 03/15/09 02:59 PM

Steve, I hope you have a very productive spring break!
Jim
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 03/15/09 05:21 PM

4speeds4me All i can say to that comment is WOW

69Cuda340S I will try to get some pics up tonight. The first thing to do is to finish off the inside with rust bullet, all of interior, trunk, and anything that was not given color. From there i havent decided. Currently making that list now, there is soo much to do i just need to pick a path to go

1fastrunner Thanks Jim! Hope to get this as nice as yours
Posted By: UCUDANT

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 03/15/09 08:32 PM

WOW I remember when you started this project. You've done some extensive work to get to this point. Your hard work paid off it looks great, I can't wait to see more. Thanks for the inspiration
Posted By: 4speeds4me

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 03/16/09 03:56 AM

I do have a question, though. Any chance of updating the sig pic with a before pic, the primer one you have now, and a picture of the body in black now? That'd be sweet!
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 03/17/09 03:24 AM

Thanks! I cant do the sigs myself, dont have a program. I have a painted one but the only problem is getting it within the guidelines of moparts sig standards. Maybe someone really good with photoshop can do it?
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 03/17/09 03:33 AM

GREAT NEWS!

Today i realized i forgot my camera cord at school, hopefully can pick one up tommarrow. This is not the good news

So Today i mad a purchase, an awesome one at that. Saw an add for a Challenger Rear and Trans, went and looked at them, low and behold it was a Dana 60 and an 18 spline 4 speed trans.

Turns out i just decoded the rear, its a 70-2 B-Body 3:54 Trak Lok with a date of 9-16-70...Its absolutely perfect for the car! It gets better, i only paid $700 for the rear and trans. I will most likely just sell the bellhousing and shifter assembly to get my money back for the rear...so here comes a DANA

I'm very excited if you can tell
Posted By: Scotts72Rallye

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 03/17/09 06:06 AM

Steve, that has to be the one I saw on Craigslist in Royersford. He posted that late Sunday night and I was going to call about the rear until reality set in, I'm broke! With my wife and daughter Shelby both in college money is tight. When I saw that ad I knew someone one going to get a heck of a deal. Glad to see it was you.
Scott
Posted By: 4speeds4me

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 03/17/09 06:10 AM

Quote:

I'm very excited if you can tell



HMPH! I never would have got that!

Nice score!
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 03/17/09 10:25 PM

Scott yes thats the add i found! I hear you on the money i just spent my next two months truck payments on these things, but i figure it was well used
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 03/17/09 10:30 PM

Okay guys here are some pics from the last couple days just bought a camera cord at the store to keep you posted

I have the back of the garage to work on so i figured the first thing that i would do is finish off the inside of the car with rust bullet...Here is some of what it looks like now...







Still havent finished it completely with all the area i need to cover its taking a little while to do or else id be sitting it wet rust bullet, not a fun thing that i have learned in the past
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 03/17/09 10:34 PM

Now, here is the dana i picked up, complete drum to drum with a pinion snubber



Now i never actually sprayed anything else, time ran short last break, hopefully i can get some other things done, started with the rear bumper today. It need a lot of straitening. Its pretty strait now and i left some low spots that i will just build up...



There was two extra holes in it that someone may have put bumper gaurds on, but filled them in...




Then started to recover it with a product that will not be rubber but darn close



Posted By: 1fastrunner

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 03/18/09 12:31 AM

Steve,
Great Find!
I'm Jealous!!!!!
Perhaps it's a reward for all you've done???
I guess I need to do more work?
Congrats Steve!!!!
Posted By: 69Cuda340S

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 03/18/09 02:01 AM

Congrats on that rear and trans. Could not have gone to a more deserved person.
Posted By: CurYellowBird

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 03/18/09 05:00 AM

That is an awesome car and has come a long way. I'm a fellow young gun right along with you guys. In the process of restoring my 1971 Plymouth Roadrunner (383 4 speed), almost similar to your car. Good luck and I guess all of us are going to prom this year. My red 80 malibu the car I'm taking to prom, unfortunately the Roadrunner won't be ready and I know dad won't let me borrow his 67' Dart GTS lol.

Posted By: WILD BILL

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 03/19/09 01:37 PM

It's about time you got back to work on the Bee

I don't think that Dana is gonna work for you. I'll be happy to trade you rear ends though and take it off your hands.

Seriously I thought I found some good deals but your on a roll. I can't wait for more updates.

Oh And I finally put that list together that I was talking to you about at the party. I'll PM it to tonight when I get home.
Posted By: burdar

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 03/19/09 01:49 PM

What are your plans for the trunk? I was suprised to see that you didn't paint it with the rest of the car.
Posted By: DynoDave

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 03/21/09 12:10 PM

Awesome parts score! Keep up the good work.
Posted By: monoptn

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 03/22/09 02:02 PM

Fantastic work ---looks like you're on the homestretch. I hope I get to see your car in person at the Mopar Nats this summer!
Posted By: 72gtx4speed

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 03/22/09 03:12 PM

steve, glad to hear your back to work on the bee. it was good to meet you at be&a's get together and hope you can bring the car there in june.


good job, clem
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 03/23/09 11:40 AM

Thanks guys!

burdar The trunk is just going to get the rust bullet treatment. I dont have any plans to paint a trunk that i will scratch up. Ill be using the car to drive. Having a nice trunk that all my stuff will screw up is out of the question.

monoptn You will get to see the car at the NATS this summer. I will have it there and it will be on brice road all weekend...

72gtx4speed Clem, june is pushing it for me to get it there so i high doubt i will. Will have it to the NATS and carlisle though. I'll try to make it out to mikes place again in june. You guys were a riot!
Posted By: JonsGottaDusta

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 03/24/09 07:35 PM

Looking awesome Steve. I can't wait to see the car all together. I am slowly doing something similar to my Duster - except I am using a mostly rust free California car.

Have a great spring break, and congrats on getting the Dana.
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 03/26/09 03:56 AM

Here is a few update pics, alot of the work is now on little trinkets that you cant take a ton of pics of but ill see what i can do as far as show the work...

Got some more Rust bullet applied to the inside. I'm using paint brushes for more control of any splatter or overspray that could occur from a gun. Also applied seem sealer to the entire inside of the car...






Now for the tail light bezels. I can honestly say just to get the bezels where they are in the picture i have spent 5 hours. I paid next to nothing for the complete setup but the bezels needed lots of time invested. The edges when placed in a bumper had gaps up to 3/8". Then other varius damage like dents and dings. Since there was so much damage to the outer ring of them i just filled in the small body line on the outside and got them as strait as possible. I also filled in the recessed area for the reverse lense. It will be a very small difference that just in black primer gives it a cleaner look...



Then these two hinges have been fix. The old pins are gone and a new oversize pin is in place. The rollers i had a local machinist do for me




Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 03/26/09 03:56 AM

Also picked up some more goodies for it. I got some direct connection valve covers, boy they do look good!




Also picked up a rimblow. I havent decide what i want to do with it yet as it needs some restoring but the wheel is not cracked and the original rubber horn still works.




Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 04/15/09 12:12 AM

It looks really good dude, i really hope i can help out again as much as possible once the semester comes to a close and help you out when i get off work. 23K views is awfully nice to see, you should be proud as hell Brice Road is gonna be a great time this year! Seeing the Bee going up and down it is gonna be INCREDIBLE.
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 04/17/09 05:12 AM

Thanks Ryan im sure you will be down to help this summer!

Well hear is some pics ive been meaning to post for a little now. Starting to put it together i walked into another parts car that i got a lot of the nuts and bolts and brackets off that i never had. So i started by cleaning these interior brackets...



They came out beautiful as this car was very well rust free. Here is the dash that i will use for many parts. It has clock, not quite a tach, but i have the tach taken care of which you guys will see in a little...



Here is the only non A/C frame i have after cleaning it up. Had to spray it with some high build primer due to some pits...






Pulled the e brake out of the parts cars as well, its better than any others i had, i took it all apart and even painted the brake line






I installed the brackets, e brake, and pedals, Still have to clean the gas pedal, the clutch pedal switch and brake switch before install...



Drilled a 4 speed hole in the dash, painted it and then laid everything out inside on tabels to transfer the parts from the parts dash to the bee's dash...



Summers coming up soon so updates should be daily soon!
Posted By: 71rm23

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 04/17/09 02:55 PM

Lookin good HemiChallenger
Posted By: bigsexy440

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 04/18/09 06:17 AM

Oh man, I havn't checked in on this thread in SOOOO long! Looks great man! Love the black!
Posted By: 72gtx4speed

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 04/26/09 01:30 PM

steve, your doing one heck of a job. can't wait to see the finished product.

clem
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 04/28/09 03:40 PM

Thanks guys here is some older pics. Been real busy with everything, schools wrapping up so i havent really had to much time to post pics...

Anyways, Got the K-Frame bolted up, have to swap the spindles for the discs that are going to be going on now thanks to sunroofgtx!



Pulled the gauges apart to clean and touch up...




Resetting the odometer to 0 so i know how many miles I personally put on her



Layed the wiring in to check, Still have to touch up with some black on the backside at a later time...




Steve
Posted By: 69bronzeT5

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 04/28/09 07:28 PM

AWESOME!
Posted By: new bee

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 04/28/09 10:48 PM

This has been my favorite thread to watch. You guys did an incredible job on this car.
I have to point one thing out which I hope you reconsider - the trunk finish.
Paint it - the silver looks a bit funky, and will be the part of this magnificent restoration you will always have to explain.
You have the car apart, and it would not take too much effort to finish it up in black. In the long run, I suspect you will feel the same way. Better to do it now than later.
Still, superb work!
Posted By: sunroofgtx

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 04/29/09 11:52 PM

Steve, with work like this, you're going to put Aloha out of business..Oh wait......hmm Looking great.
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 05/01/09 07:40 AM

69bronzeT5 Thanks man! I hope your stuff is coming along just as well!

new bee Thanks! Yea i know the trunk doesnt look great now, but i can pain over top of that stuff so i still can do it!

sunroofgtx Thanks man! If all goes well I will have her out to carlsile
Posted By: sunroofgtx

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 05/02/09 04:56 AM

Steve, that would be a sweet cruise, in that thing. Keep trukin. I got your wires waiting..
Posted By: BCSharp

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 05/02/09 09:05 PM

Been a while since I checked in here. I'm blown away, looks great. I really need to finish working on my garage so I can get back to work on my 71.
Posted By: 71 FJ6 Charger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 05/04/09 02:40 AM

Lookin good man! Give me a call on that harness. Sent ya a PM.
Posted By: migsBIG

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 05/07/09 05:11 AM

Keep up the good work, it will pay off.
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 05/12/09 06:27 AM

Thanks guys! Updates have been kinda slow, i know but its from focusing more on getting it done then uploading pics and posting them. So here is what has been going on...

First off, i have this parts car here that has really nice condition stuff, and the brake lines were too so i decided to save a few bucks and use them...





Then I went over to buddy's place to sandblast some stuff...



Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 05/12/09 06:32 AM

I finished up some of the smaller things, Before i get into putting everything back on the car im waiting on getting a body gasket kit and getting all my nuts/bolts/screws laid out to paint...





Then went to the local yard, got a heater box(shes pretty i know ) and an ashtray as all mine were busted...



Then Painted up some of the disc brake stuff i got from Gorski (sunroofgtx)...

Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 05/12/09 06:43 AM

Took apart the heater box cleaned up everything. I didnt take the easy way out on this, even grinded the rivets off to clean it up the best i can...



Pulled the side markers out...



Polished them, they will do for now, i really would like to find two nice rears and one nice front...



Pulled all the trim out to start polishing...




And by far the weirdest event over the past few days was that saturday i went up to the house for lunch and we left the barn door open. Found three peacocks inside hanging out by the super bee. Once we got them out of the barn they hung out outside for about 4 hours until the dog chased them away.



Thats all for now, ill try to keep the updates most consistant for now on
Posted By: WILD BILL

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 05/12/09 06:49 PM

Even the wild life is amazed at how well it's coming together.

Posted By: Scotts72Rallye

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 05/12/09 08:47 PM

Quote:


Found three peacocks inside hanging out by the super bee. Once we got them out of the barn they hung out outside for about 4 hours until the dog chased them away.

That's funny Steve but I would have left them there to gaurd your stuff they make one heck of a noise when disturbed at night. Looks like your on schedule for Carlisle.
Scott
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 05/13/09 04:41 AM

Well Today was forward and backward, learned a lesson, check to make sure your dog house is for a Power brake car before installing. If your unsure what i mean, the manual brake cars have studs(seen through firewall) and power brake cars have no studs(seen in front)...



But aside from that hold up i finished the heater box...



Painted the horns and brake booster...



And I made the firewall look a little more complete...




More tommorrow...
Posted By: DynoDave

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 05/13/09 07:59 PM

Quote:

Even the wild life is amazed at how well it's coming together.







The car is looking fantastic.
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 05/14/09 07:03 AM

Thanks Dave!

The Rear Quarter glass, sadly both sides looked like this...



Removed the Addition Tint on the Tinted glass and stickers, the buffed and polished...



Installed



Posted By: FuryUs

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 05/17/09 11:07 PM

Those peacocks must have been Chevy guys--they heard there was a SuperBird in the barn, but found out it was a Super Bee.
Posted By: 69bronzeT5

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 05/18/09 01:09 AM

Looks awesome man. I wish my projects were going that good
Posted By: 69Cuda340S

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 05/18/09 11:48 PM

Coming along nicely!! Looking forward to some more updates.
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 05/21/09 03:35 AM

Thanks Guys!

I got some Original Hemi 6/7 Leaf Springs from a local guy and decided it was time to get the rear ready to go in the rear end...




I let the girlfriend prime the rear after i cleaned it...







Then painted it...




Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 05/21/09 03:39 AM

I pulled the leaf springs apart...






Then i got some new clamps and plastic pads at a local shop, the clamps are not original looking, but neither is the car...





Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 05/21/09 03:41 AM

The windshield before and after buffing...





Then i installed my insulation...getting ready for the headline install...



Thats all for now
Posted By: 69B3GT

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 05/21/09 11:08 PM

This was the first post i read when i came to this site....that car is turning out amazing and its come a long ways. keep up the great work, i would never be able to tackle that big of a project. Cool deal, cant wait to see the finished pics
Posted By: 69Cuda340S

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 05/22/09 01:23 AM

Turning out really nice. Keep those pics coming. You guys gonna have a BBQ this year?
Posted By: monoptn

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 05/24/09 02:32 PM

The car looking great - I hope to see it at the Nats this summer.

If one of the Mopar mags isn't covering this they are missing out on a great article! The title should be "By the Sweat of His Brow."
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 05/26/09 04:07 AM

Thanks guys!

69Cuda340S Bill yes we will be having one, thinking of having it late summer early fall. I dont have time to plan it anytime soon. I want to focus on getting this thing as far as possible so i can take it to carlisle and Nats

monoptn Thanks man! As long as the car is operating on its own power i will say she will be there! So hopefully you will
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 05/26/09 04:21 AM

Well guys here is another update...

First off, I clean and painted all the leafs and parts...



Then Assembled the leafs, im waiting on some bushings before i install them...




Got a package in the mail, A pair of MINT grills, with screws and clips!




Then I decided since there was a lot of repair work done around all the windows where the inside trim attaches i better mock it up to see if it fits before i do the headliner. Glad I did, you can see the piece that wouldnt go in...








Since i did extensive repair in those areas (see below) i would guess i most likely just filled it in thinking it was a spot weld i drilled, guess not


Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 05/26/09 04:28 AM

Well I had to take a picture of the spindle before i put them on and they get covered by the rotor, they look so...clean



Since i cannot find anything as far as a complete 71 two piece proportioning valve, i was forced to salvage a 72, i hate the concept as they just dont look nearly as good. Since they mount differently on the inner fender and i wasnt going to drill the inner fender, i made a bracket so when the time comes i can switch it without having to fill the drilled hole. I took the bracket picture below the bolt (this one and another) and made a bracket. So i went from this...




To this...




To this...




Thats all for now!
Posted By: THESHAKERPROJECT

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 05/26/09 10:09 PM

The 2 piece valves for a 71 car are reproduced and sold by FineLines and others and they look very correct and are not that expensive. Also , if you need a tank I have a mint 71 Charger gas tank you can have (28k mile car )...I just want to get rid of it. I have a good working PU (3/8) also. That gonna be a nice 71.
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 05/30/09 06:13 AM

THESHAKERPROJECT Thanks man! Check your PM's i do need a gas tank and sending unit!

So I threw the headliner in, started clamping it up, and realized i need more clamps for it to meet my standards, so i need to get more...





And the Bracket i made for the proportioning valve, works great, and you can not even really tell there is anything going on...




Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 05/30/09 06:17 AM

Got the rear in, just need to get the shock, brakes and backing plates done and installed...



Then i started in on the wiper motor resto...




Apart, some stuff cleaned and finished, others not...



And here it is all but done, i need to figure out where to get that orange rubber insulation that goes over the wires and put the to brackets back on, along with finding new rubber gromets...




Posted By: 78xeMAG

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 05/31/09 01:50 AM

your bee is very nice. your hard work is showing in the fit and finish. are you going to paint or undercoat the bottom of the car?
Posted By: sunroofgtx

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 05/31/09 01:56 PM

Steve, looking great. Love the girlfriend, helping along the way. Keep snapping those pics !!I lover it. Looks like you are well on your way for Carlisle. Do you still need my Carlisle spot this year ?
Posted By: ixelerate

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 06/01/09 04:25 AM

looking great!! I was just wondering what is going to be powering this thing? I think a few pages backed you mentioned a 440 from another project?
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 06/02/09 08:07 AM

73rrunner Thanks, The car bottom is undercoated currently. I would have liked to have a paint bottom but since i will be beating the snot out of the car i dont want to have to clean it all the time. The flash of my camera make the bottom look unfinished, it is but its just the flash.

sunroofgtx Thanks man, she likes painting, hates that im always working on the car but i promised if she can withstand another 5 weeks of suffering ill make it up to her. Shes coming out to the nats with me this year so ill introduce you two. Check your PM's on the Carlisle Spot...

ixelerate Well i have a 440 that was built for a different project. I did it when i was thirteen with my dad at a friends place in Michigan. It was built, then dynoed, then put on a motor stand for 6 years. I have been searching for Hemi stuff but right now its not going to happen, other things need to happend first. If i had the money about a month ago i found a KB aluminum hemi block, and heads for $2500 But didnt have the money so i had to watch someone else get that deal
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 06/02/09 08:18 AM

Alrgiht guys well im focusing on the interior, trying to finish it completely so i can call it done. So i finished the headliner, almost messed it up when i sliced it for the dome light wiring



Finished cleaning and painting the Interior trim, well the girlfriend painted it, she had me scared and got a few runs but the paint that i used for it was great, it managed to run itself smooth



Then i started in on the dash harness, oh boy is this a mess, all i have been doing is cut, tracing the schematic, and soildering

I am using three harnesses to make one(one not pictured)...



One harness apart...



To give you and example of why three is making one, just take a look at the wiper connector on the left




Posted By: sharpie

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 06/03/09 06:26 PM

Steve, I just redid the wiring in my Demon. I didn't actually remove any wiring from the bulkhead connectors, but I untaped and rewrapped everything. Two pieces of advice:

#1 - keep everything running similar to how it was stock. It seems they actually did research on this, and found the most efficient way to run everything.

#2 - keep tiny zip ties handy and zip up the wiring into their specific bundles. Like all the wiring for the wiper motor for example would get a zip tie near the connector, in the middle, then down where it met the rest of the wires. This way, it's a breeze to wrap the wiring with electrical tape. Start from the bulkhead connector and work your way out. Snip the zip ties off as you get to them. It will keep the wiring where you want it, and will also make it MUCH easier to come back to if you have to walk away from it for some reason.
Posted By: court9155

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 06/03/09 10:26 PM

Can you go into detail about polishing the glass? Products and method, please.
Great build by the way!!

Dan
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 06/04/09 05:35 AM

sharpie Thanks for the tips. I read your comment after i was to far in to do it that way. Im not running it like a stock harness at all, i improved it in my opinion. I each connector and genre of wiring wrapped up and running by themselves, that way if i ever have a problem with anything i cant just pull that part out, not the entire thing...

court9155 Thanks! What i did for the glass was pretty simple. Your supplies include windex, paper towels, rubbing compound (I used 3M's), a buffer (you can adapt any air or electric to for this and a polisher),and 3M's Finese it. I barely used the Finese it (polishing compound). Most of my stuff came out pretty nice with just using the rubbing compound and buffer, but if needed or desired you can use a polishing pad with the finese it. This proccess i made up so it could be improved im sure...

1)Use your windex and towels, clean up the glass to get ride of dirt and debris
2)Put the rubbing compound on the glass, rub it in and all over with your buffer. Then start buffing go over a 3-4 times with it in different directions. Then wipe and use windex to see what its looking like, if needed sand with 1500 or 2000 grit if scratches are present and do it again and then polish the same way you buffed if desired. If you need PM me and i can call you to explain it better!
Posted By: 1fastrunner

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 06/04/09 01:00 PM

Steve, you continue to impress with everything you tackle, and not just taking the easy way out. You have a great deal of documentation here, you should do a book similar to Project Charger. Not to take anything away from that book, but you've taken it to the next level as far as details go.
Looking forward to seeing it @ Carlisle.
Jim
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 06/08/09 10:19 PM

1fastrunner Jim, Thanks and ill keep the book in mind always entertaining thoughts like that. See you at Carlisle!
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 06/08/09 10:22 PM

Very Small update here...greg cleaned up the wiper assembly, and i put it back together with my homemade gaskets...



And the wiring is all but done, still had a few things to button up. I did it my way, which i think is easier, running each connector by iteself so that if there would ever be any problems i dont have to hack apart the entire harness, just that mini harness...




Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 06/09/09 01:32 AM

Well today i met up with Mike, THESHAKERPROJECT and he donated some parts; tank, sending unit, tachometer, front plate bracket for the car! Thanks again Mike!



Brakes almost done, just need to find a place that sells the clamp and metal spacer type things that go around the caliper bolts...




Interior coming together...



And just finishing the wiring






Posted By: dmoore

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 06/09/09 01:35 AM

What a great thread looking forward to seeing it in person! Dave
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 06/09/09 06:44 AM

Thanks Dave!

Since Mike donated the tach i had to alter my lense setup. The top one is the one i was going to use, it was setup for a clock so there was a hole in the plastic. I couldnt leave it that way so i had to make it right...



Since i had to remove the one lens i decided that i would take them all out to get the best possible polish. Here they all are polished...



Then here they are reinstalled and back on the gauges, now i just need to hunt down some of those special clips that hold it onto the housing(the tach needle i will address later)...




Posted By: DusterKrazy

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 06/10/09 02:21 AM

Looks fantastic
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 06/12/09 05:13 AM

Thanks! Here is another update...

Roughed in the carpet, i need to take a picture of it done and installed...



Headlight buckets on, it looks good so i had to snap a pic



Took apart the seats, luckily the rears were in good shape, easily cleaned and sprayed, the fronts, well they look like they are fresh off the Titanic...





And here is an overall pic...




Posted By: 69B3GT

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 06/12/09 06:09 PM

Man the car is looking great! Keep up to awesome work
Posted By: jrwoodjoe

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 06/12/09 06:11 PM

Quote:

Man the car is looking great! Keep up to awesome work



I love to see it coming together!
Posted By: JonsGottaDusta

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 06/12/09 10:31 PM

You are doing a great job Steve! Keep it up!

- jon
Posted By: WILD BILL

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 06/13/09 11:14 PM

Wont be long now
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 06/18/09 11:46 AM

Thanks guys! I keep running into some stupid problems and im trying to sort those out! Will get a new update sometime soon!
Posted By: DynoDave

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 06/18/09 10:40 PM

Every problem you knock down, even those not car related, is just one more obstacle out of your way.
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 06/22/09 05:20 AM

Thanks for the support Dave!

So onto problem one. The passenger spindle.

The rotor would not go on the spindle, turns out the diameter is .25" to big which means i needed to find another spindle. So i run out and pull on off of another front suspension, bring it home, same problem. So that means i had no option but to pull one of a suspension that was in a car that burnt to the ground. That was quite the adventure...

Here we finally got the rotor and caliper off with lots of heat, notice the inner part of the bearing is still on the rotor Not moving at all...



whats left of the bearing in the rotor...



So the inner part of the bearing need to be cut off as it was not moving. So our friend very carefully torched it out...



Here is the aftermath, then we also broke all three dust cover bolts, which in turn broke a drill bit and a tap. This was a very interesting project



All done, spindle is cleaned and primed, just needing paint...



Then steering column troubles (knew it was coming, still trying to find an alternative to spending $150 for the flaming river kit...




On the upside, i polished the headlight rings (three backs not done, just to compare)





Posted By: 4speeds4me

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 06/22/09 07:55 AM

That doesn't look like you were having much fun at all.

As far as the steering goes, the distance in the pic is more than the difference between power and manual steering, so what gives? I wonder if your column "slipped". I had the unit out of my 69 runner a few years ago, and when I went to re-install, the stupid thing had shrunk 3". Needless to say, I figured out that the column had somehow been collapsed a bit being moved around the shop. Brought it out where it needed to be, and problem solved.

Now, assuming that is a PS column, you'd still likely be a bit short. I had HEARD that MS vans had the same adapter factory as FR sells aftermarket. Might be worth a lookand a LOT cheaper.
Posted By: 1fastrunner

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 06/22/09 01:48 PM

Steve,
I had thought my column was a power column in my manual car and was shopping for a new one. Jules assured me that it was indeed a manual column. I was able to pulled the column shaft up while it was out of the car. Worth a shot.
Jim
Posted By: JulesdaWiperman

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 06/22/09 06:15 PM

That is a power steering shaft and it CANNOT and should NOT be pulled out to reach the manual steering box.
The opposite is okay. Manual compressed to power is fine but not the opposite.
Not enough shaft will be left inside the tube.
Jules

Attached picture 5308335-ebodysteeringshaft(6).jpg
Posted By: THESHAKERPROJECT

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 06/23/09 09:15 PM

Someone sells an adapter to take up the distance from PWR to Manual steering. I think Firm Feel makes them. We use one on a friends E-Body to conver to manual steering on his race car. I hope to see that car at Carlisle and keep up the great work.
Posted By: 69bronzeT5

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 06/24/09 01:57 AM

Quote:

So that means i had no option but to pull one of a suspension that was in a car that burnt to the ground.



What kind of car was it? Also, what did you use to polish the headlight rings?
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 06/27/09 07:06 AM

Thanks for the tips guys, after talking with Jules i have it all figured out, ill post what i did later. The spindle was off of a 70 Challenger. I used some polishing compound that i found at lowes, the is levels 1-6 6 being high gloss, and it looks sweet when you get use it
Posted By: 69bronzeT5

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 06/29/09 05:15 AM

Quote:

The spindle was off of a 70 Challenger. I used some polishing compound that i found at lowes, the is levels 1-6 6 being high gloss, and it looks sweet when you get use it



Hey Steve,
Any chance you have a picture of the car? I'd be really interested in seeing it.
Posted By: Scotts72Rallye

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/12/09 07:48 PM

Steve,
I saw the Bee Saturday at Carlisle and it looked damn good. Very nice work!
Scott
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/14/09 09:15 PM

69bronzeT5 I'll email you a pic of the car if i can find one, have to go through some old files...

Scotts72Rallye Thanks Scott, a lot of guys seemed to like it, its reassuring that the works been worth it!
Posted By: new bee

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/23/09 06:45 PM

we want an update! we want an update!
Posted By: 69bronzeT5

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/25/09 08:47 AM

Quote:

69bronzeT5 I'll email you a pic of the car if i can find one, have to go through some old files...




Thanks Steve!


-Cody
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/28/09 08:51 PM

Alright guys i know its been awhile since i updated but a lot has been going on to prevent me from posting.

The car was at carlisle if anyone was there you would have easily know it was this car but the incompleteness and it being the only motorless car on the showfield. Anyways did see a few of you and it was good to talk to you guys.

In addition to that i lost my camera for about a month so the pictures for about a month are very minimal and only end results...
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/28/09 08:57 PM

I painted the gas tank black different i know but i saw a car with a body color tank and from the rear end it looked good so i went ahead and did that...



Refinished the gauge cluster and put a stock radio in for now until i finish up my radio delete panel. Also installed the steering column. I ended up taking an e-body manual steering shaft that i had here and used that instead of buying a power to manual coupler...



I also picked up a tuff wheel adapter at a local junkyard for $15 as i plan to put a rim blow on the car
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/28/09 09:07 PM

Now for the most exciting thing. I have a friend who helped me out big time with some parts. We did a very large trade deal of parts for these cars. I ended up getting some nice parts and a new option for the car...



So i got a near complete ram charger hood assembly and just need to do some metal work to the hood and i will have a ram charger hood for the car.

In addition to that i picked up some of the cleanest sidemarkers anyones ever seen. Check the how nice the rears are (the back of them is still super glossy and the lenses are perfect[pics do no justice])




Also got a bunch of original spoiler hardware and the mounting brackets for the grilles...



And finally picked up some nice original front upper door panels. At the bottom of the panel in a bag is some of the rubber insulation that goes on wiper motors. I have to thank Jules big time for donating this stuff!



I'll try to get some pics of the car up here soon
Posted By: JonsGottaDusta

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/29/09 01:20 AM

Looking great, Steve! I cannot wait until you post some pics of its current condition.
Posted By: jdr2483

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 08/22/09 04:48 PM

We need some updates!
Posted By: 69B3GT

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 08/22/09 06:50 PM

Quote:

We need some updates!



Hows the car goin now
Posted By: moparpollack

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 08/22/09 11:23 PM

Cars are cool but I think he went back to school for the year.
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 09/01/09 08:10 AM

Hey guys sorry i have been busy with the transition back to school. I'll be home at the end of the month and will get some pics of the car then...

Glad your still interested
Posted By: Challenger 1

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 09/02/09 02:35 PM

Quote:

Thanks for the support Dave!

So onto problem one. The passenger spindle.

The rotor would not go on the spindle, turns out the diameter is .25" to big which means i needed to find another spindle. So i run out and pull on off of another front suspension, bring it home, same problem. So that means i had no option but to pull one of a suspension that was in a car that burnt to the ground. That was quite the adventure...

Here we finally got the rotor and caliper off with lots of heat, notice the inner part of the bearing is still on the rotor Not moving at all...



whats left of the bearing in the rotor...



So the inner part of the bearing need to be cut off as it was not moving. So our friend very carefully torched it out...



Here is the aftermath, then we also broke all three dust cover bolts, which in turn broke a drill bit and a tap. This was a very interesting project



All done, spindle is cleaned and primed, just needing paint...



Then steering column troubles (knew it was coming, still trying to find an alternative to spending $150 for the flaming river kit...




On the upside, i polished the headlight rings (three backs not done, just to compare)









Just a tip for ya... Next time you have a race or steel sleeve siezed on a shaft like that. Take a ball piened hammer and strike it a few times with the ball end and the sleeve will expand and come right off, everytime. Car looks great!! Have a great year at school!
Posted By: wvmarv

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 09/24/09 03:40 PM

Hey guys, don't want to be a sour puss but I think you missed your finish date. How much do you really have in it. 5000...? :shruggy
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 09/28/09 10:06 AM

Thanks for the tip Gary!

wvmarv Yes we missed our deadline by a good bit! I have been meaning to update the forum with the current totals on whats into and what everything cost. I will do so shortly!

Thanks,

Steve
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 10/27/09 11:50 PM

Well I have neglected to post the Budget part for quite some time due to being busy so i guess i will put it up there for those interested. Now this is not whats just out of pocket, it includes money coming back in from purchases, trades, donations, etc. I dont have the numbers for the supplies and shipping for some items here at school now. I will have to post that later. I am sitting on a lot of parts that i have gathered throughout the build so when its done they will be sold to counteract being over budget...

Items Purchased:

Super Bee Project Car $1500
Standard Grilles $50
Trunk Lid $100
Parts Car 1 (Brown) $300
Hideaway Headlights, Standard Taillights $75
Side Markers (Set of 4) $60
383/727 Motor Combo $300
Repro Trunk Floor $230.85
Repro Trunk Extensions $150.48
Interior Kit $626.72
Dual Horns, Headlight Harness, Rear Defroster $45
Parts Car 2 (Blue) $125
Dash Pad $25
Four Speed Hump $105.38
Front Valance $25
Suspension Rebuilt Kit $245
Exhaust Tips, Valance Lenses, Door Handles, D/S Mirror $285
Original Rubber Bumpers $150
R/T Taillights $225
Pistol Grip Shifter, Mech, Rods, Tabs, Mounting Plate $325
Spare Super Bee Hood $315
71 Hideaway Headlights $185
Original Dana 60, 18 Spline Trans $700
Door Hinge Repair $75
Rim Blow Wheel $285
Parts Car 3 (Blue) $2000
Heater Box Setup, Dash Ashtray $45
Disc Brake Conversion Kit $400
Original 6/7 Leaf Springs $100
Leaf Spring Rebuild Parts $61
Standard Grills $250
Gasket Kit $38
Spare Dash Harness $15
Firewall Insulation, Speaker Tray, Body Plugs $88
Shocks (All 4) $120
Tuff Wheel Adapter $15
AM Radio $10
Headlamp Washer System $500
Stratovent System $75
Taillight Lenses $200
Rim Blow Wheel, Center Cap, Tuff Wheel Adapter $450
Front Side Markers $125
626 11" Bellhousing $150
NOS Shifter Boot, Positive/Negative Battery Cables $101
Rear Ashtrays $41
Super Bee Insert $202.50
Rebuilt Shifter Mech. $189.37
Front Windshield Trim Clips $25
A Pillar Metal $5
Restored Pistol Grip $250

Purchased Total: $11964.30

Sold Items:

From Super Bee:

4 Speed Console $539.99
Misc. Parts In/On Car $76.57

From Parts Cars 1 & 2:

Front Frame Rail Sections(2) $500 each, $1000

From Parts Car 3:

Misc. Parts In/On Car $1612.52
Remaining Shell $1800

From Purchases:

Repro Trunk Floor (Returned) $230.85
Hideaway Setup $126
Super Bee Insert $385
71 Hideaway Setup $416
Rim Blow Wheel $372

Sold Total: $6558.93

Current Grand Total Invested: $5405.37


Now many things you will not see on the list, these items were involved in trades that had no cash involved, Parts for Parts Deals.

When i get the rest of the info i will update it to keep anyone interested updated!

Steve
Posted By: wvmarv

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 10/31/09 03:26 PM

Great job, keep up the good work. Better late than never.
Posted By: The70RT

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 11/04/09 04:27 AM

Great job there youngster Wish my kids would help me like that...I would be done by now.
Posted By: 69Cuda340S

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 11/08/09 01:59 PM

Car is look great Steve, nice job!
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 11/08/09 05:06 PM

Awesome man! Great to see an update
Posted By: Jeremy Ray

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 11/17/09 12:56 AM

Hey HemiChallenger, did you get the PM I sent you?
Posted By: GardnersGotCudas

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 11/22/09 08:41 PM

steve r u still living
Posted By: WILD BILL

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 11/22/09 10:26 PM

He's at school now so upadtes this time of year are slow coming.

He has been around other parts of the board though
Posted By: jdr2483

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/24/09 08:49 PM

Any updates during the Christmas Break?
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/27/09 01:39 AM

I will be having some updates this break and this is a small one from this evening...

Been Buying lots of parts, hes a small portion of them...


I want a Rim blow on the car so I've been Stocking up on the wheels, and parts to the wheels to make the best set. All others will be sold off once i put the best of the best together. Check what was in the Chryco Box


Door Glass Installed, still need to get the wiskars before i tighten it all down and align...


Did a minor tear down of the latches...


Scrubbed them down and greased them up, and the original plating came out OK so i installed them


I'll have more over the break
Posted By: 69Cuda340S

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/28/09 02:51 AM

Looking forward to some winter break updates!
Posted By: WILD BILL

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/03/10 04:38 PM

Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/04/10 04:08 AM

Did a few more things like install the ashtrays, refinished the front door panels, and assembled my best set of sidemarker...







Installed the sidemarkers aswell...





Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/21/10 03:17 PM

The Quarter Glass Stainless was scuffed up pretty good so i drilled the ones from the original glass off...




Heres the difference after polishing...



New seals on and installed in car...



Posted By: JonsGottaDusta

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/21/10 06:38 PM

Looking great, Steve! You have any full body pics of the car? Haven't seen any since it was freshly painter. Keep up the good work.

- Jon
Posted By: wvmarv

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/21/10 07:33 PM

Looking good. Can I ask what did you use, and how did you polish the chrome trim. I have some that needs polishing before I install it and I don't know where to begin.
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/21/10 10:10 PM

JonsGottaDusta Jon, sorry i dont have any full body pics of the car. Since its winter we put a two extra cars in the barn making it very tight to move. When spring starts coming around and we can move the two cars out and i can get the car out of the corner i will take some

wvmarv Polishing trim it a pretty simple concept, but it can be time consuming depending on how nice you want it. If you have a bench grinder you will need to pick up some buffing wheels for it, and some polish to apply to it (you can find the stuff at any home improvement store). Apply your polish to the wheel and move it back and forth. You will have to play with it to get the best results. In addition for the best results you will want to sand it with some 1500 and then 2000 and go at it again
Posted By: sunroofgtx

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/21/10 11:19 PM

Steve, looks killer. Thanks for the updates..
Posted By: wvmarv

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/22/10 04:51 PM

Quote:

JonsGottaDusta Jon, sorry i dont have any full body pics of the car. Since its winter we put a two extra cars in the barn making it very tight to move. When spring starts coming around and we can move the two cars out and i can get the car out of the corner i will take some

wvmarv Polishing trim it a pretty simple concept, but it can be time consuming depending on how nice you want it. If you have a bench grinder you will need to pick up some buffing wheels for it, and some polish to apply to it (you can find the stuff at any home improvement store). Apply your polish to the wheel and move it back and forth. You will have to play with it to get the best results. In addition for the best results you will want to sand it with some 1500 and then 2000 and go at it again



Thanks for the help, I'm gonna get started this weekend.
Posted By: SCATPACK 1

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/27/10 03:17 AM

Good job buffing the quaret window chrome. Who/where did you get the new quarter window seals from?
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/28/10 07:35 AM

The seals i got directly from the company that makes them, i dont have their information with me at school but when i get home i can check it out for you. I have seen them on ebay from time to time. My guess is that these are correct, but i would double check with the seller...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1971-1972...sQ5fAccessories
Posted By: aspenrt360

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 02/19/10 11:47 PM

any new progress on this puppy it is a great story to follow and i think you are doing a fine job.
Posted By: ixelerate

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 02/23/10 01:57 AM

Quote:

any new progress on this puppy it is a great story to follow and i think you are doing a fine job.



I second that! I look forward to more updates! This has to be one of the most comprehensive restoration threads I've ever read.
Posted By: Scotts72Rallye

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 04/25/10 02:38 AM

Quote:

The Goal: Have the car completely done for our 2008 Senior Prom

Your going to be the oldest guy at the Penn Manor senior prom if you don't get cracking! J/K Steve. When you wrap up college classes this year are you going to finish the Bee this summer?
Scott
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 04/27/10 07:28 PM

Hey everyone just wanted to let you know that there has been progress on the bee, i have just neglected to post pictures because i need to get a new connection cord. I hope to post some up in the next few days. If all goes smoothly i will have it done for this years Carlisle.
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 05/04/10 03:08 AM

Alright guys i know its been awhile since i updated but i do have some pictures for you and many more to come in the coming weeks.

I painted up my front drip rails, this was a big hold up in getting the front trim on(which i need to get pictures of)...



I had a nice ashtray but the plastic was broken on the outside. I took the nice metal part on the left and the plastic out part on the right to make a really nice one unit piece. This was very hard to do given the rivets location...





I got the power plant on the engine stand and getting it ready to go in. Its a 440 that my dad and I built 7 years ago and had it in a car for 20 miles or so then pulled it, its been sitting ever since so it needed a home in the bee...



Starting to stripe it down for paint, i have some better heads that i will be throwing on it...




Motor Mounts before...



after new rubbers and repainting...



Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 05/04/10 03:13 AM

Another project i have going on is getting the rear end done. The rear was an original 71 B body dana, then someone moved the perches for an E body and it doesnt fit...

Pulled it out...



Cut the old perches off and put on new mopar ones, just to find out that the hole for the stud on the leaf spring is too big. So i got some correct size washers to fix the problem and welded them in place...




Put the rear back in to center and set pinion angle...



More to come soon
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 06/04/10 09:02 PM

I got the motor done now. Here are the reconditioned heads put on...



Painted up and awaiting install....



Dropping the motor into place...



Its nice to finally see a motor in her 3 years later



Here is a shot of the all the trim on now...



And painting the bell housing and misc. motor parts...




Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 06/04/10 09:08 PM

Now that the motor is in i had the trans stuff ready to put in...



Due to some terrible rain that we have been getting lately the barn was starting to floor which pushed the install back awhile...



But i finally did get it in, which means that i could measure the rear end to get the proper pinion angle...



After setting it to 6 degrees i tacked the perches on and pulled it out to weld up the entire thing....



The welds sure look alot better than factory



Stay tuned more to come...
Posted By: burdar

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 06/04/10 10:48 PM

So am I going to be able to see this thing at the Nat's in August? I hope so.
Posted By: ihv800

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 06/05/10 02:02 AM

As a 19 year old Mopar fanatic, I have a great deal of respect for what you've accomplished! The car looks beautiful, I know first hand how hard black is to get to look like that. Hopefully when money permits I can get my hands on a '70 Challenger and do the same.

Can't wait to see it all finished, detailed, and out in the sunlight!
Posted By: demon1515

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 06/05/10 03:31 AM

DUUUUUDE
I dont care what they say about you, you are a hell of a body guy, one of the best i have seen yet!
Posted By: 1fastrunner

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 06/05/10 09:27 PM

Great to see you finding some time to finish. I was beginning to think you were going to summer school. LOL
Jim
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 06/12/10 04:49 PM

Thanks everyone its coming along nicely!!

burdar Yes you Should see it there, as long as finishing it doesnt wipe out my bank account It will be at Carlisle no matter what...

Posted By: WILD BILL

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 06/14/10 12:59 AM

Progress
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 06/23/10 01:37 AM

Another update for you all...

After stripping the rear end i painted it again...



Painted the backing plates and drums....



Getting ready to install the rear...



Installed...



New brakes!




Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 06/23/10 01:45 AM

I also found some rear panels to match my fronts, both are in good shape but all four had chrome peeling so i took some chrome mylar tape and fixed them...



I got new rear E-brake cables in and installed them...



Since i traded my rubber bumpers for the air grabber hood i needed to send some chrome bumpers out to be striped...



It was a hot weekend so i decided to finish up the front seats. This was a mess as i had to use many two different pairs of seats to make one. I used the original foam from the cars original seats but had to use the frames from a 70 challenger because the original cars frames were to rusty to repair...



Here they are with just the tops and bottoms done, still need to assemble them...



And i got some dougs headers for the car, to make the engine nice and pretty



Installed...



More to come...

Its crunch time for Carlisle!



Posted By: DynoDave

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 06/25/10 10:07 PM

Very cool. Hope to see it there!
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/06/10 02:15 AM

Sorry I have been neglecting to post on here, been very busy trying to get the car together for carlisle. But anyways here is a rundown of whats been going on...

Got my driveshaft back. I took it to a local shop to get it cut and balanced...



I replaced all the seals on the inside of the upper door panels...



I redid the seat frames...Before...



Then after...



I then assembled the seats with the hardware...





Interior so far...



Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/06/10 02:20 AM

Today was the ultimate test of a lot of work, from the making my harness to testing my engine assembly skills. After checking everything out, we cranked it over and it fired right up. I have a small video here...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuTk7mCSrcg

Car so far...






More to come lots of stuff will be going together on the car the next few days before carlisle...

Posted By: 1fastrunner

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/06/10 02:46 AM

Way to go Steve, how can you sleep at night getting so close to completion?

Jim
Posted By: hotairballoonpilot

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/13/10 05:30 AM

so did it make it?
Posted By: NV69B7RR

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/17/10 12:47 PM

Posted By: 68Barracuda

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/17/10 08:54 PM

He made it to the show. Still had some work to do but I saw it moving under it's own power that's more than I can say for mine. Cool car, can't wait to see it next year.
Posted By: 69Cuda340S

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/17/10 10:41 PM

Congrats on getting that car running!
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/19/10 02:12 AM

Thanks guys i did make it up to the show. Had it with some barn fresh parts on it (wheels, aircleaner, wing, grilles, tailights, etc). But it was fun to have it up there and be able to drive the thing around the fairgrounds. I'll be uploading some pics i took today of it...
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/19/10 02:46 AM

Here is a few pictures of the car as it was at carlisle with the exception of the wiper motor being on the car. Had to pull it off to compare to my dads on his car....


As you can see the barn fresh rims and tires...



I bolted the Gull Wing on to cover the holes in case of rain it will need to be painted...



Grilles need to be restored yet, i got lucky and got these from a very low mile car that was parted out...



Tailights need to be redone yet aswell...



The interior as it was without the shifter boot and ring that i got from my buddy Mike Ross at BE/A...



Air Cleaner needs to be done yet. The valve covers are the ones i used to paint it with and will be swapped out to some Direct Connection ones i got at the show for $25! Got here running with a $37 Autozone point distributor and Wires....



And a cool picture of my 73 Challenger in the reflection of the Super Bees paint






I also picked up quite a few parts for the car, keep checking back as i install them and get the car done for the Nats
Posted By: 69bronzeT5

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/21/10 05:34 AM

Looks great.....wow!!!!! Such an inspiration!!!
Posted By: DusterKrazy

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/21/10 05:08 PM

It looks great!

I have to find work soon so I can get back on my '70 Charger. I have not touched it in a year

PS- Is there anything I could possibly donate to help you out?
Posted By: bschargerse

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/24/10 03:48 PM

Looking good Steve. Sorry I missed you at Carlisle.
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/25/10 01:36 PM

Thanks guys! I think right now im pretty good as far as parts for the car. The only thing that i need is to find a good set of door jam seals (the ones with the screws and the top of doors and jams). I will post more pictures as i get it ready for the NATS!
Posted By: 69Cuda340S

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 07/26/10 01:22 AM

Car looks great Steve. A lot of people would have given up long ago. The amount of work to get to this point is incredible and you hung in there. Congrats on this major milestone!!
Posted By: aspenrt360

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 08/07/10 02:49 AM

really nice work that car would have been crushed by most other people. you should be proud
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 08/07/10 01:32 PM

Thanks for the compliments guys! After 3 years on this project i am ready for all of it to be over and drive it on the streets...that will be soon
Posted By: jpilone

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 10/05/10 10:44 PM

Any updates??
Posted By: bigsexy440

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 10/07/10 03:19 PM

I love this car...
Posted By: the_only_k

Howdy Everyone There - 12/11/10 08:21 PM

Hi I just thought this would be a good time to say hi, and introduce myself. Hopefully this is an okay part of the forum to do that on.

Look forward to talking to everyone
Posted By: CDN72SE

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 12/12/10 01:25 AM

Would love to see some updates.
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 01/19/11 05:49 AM

Hey guys sorry for no update or response in a long time. I have been extremely busy and rarely find time to get on anymore. I do have some updates and will try to get them up and on here as soon as possible. I haven't forgot about the post just been very busy!

Steve

P.S. who can make me a new signature? I need to update it badly...PM me
Posted By: jdr2483

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 05/17/11 12:14 PM

Sure would like to see an update.
Posted By: jpilone

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 05/17/11 02:35 PM



Slacker!!

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Posted By: aspenrt360

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 05/20/11 12:56 PM

any new pics would be great
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 06/04/11 07:59 AM

Alright guys sorry i haven't updated in awhile, i been super busy with everything and have not had much time to get on the computer to update thread (it doesn't help that my computer took a dump on me and i just got a new one)

Anyways not much has changed on the actual car itself, just doing some more parts restoration stuff, and the biggy is getting my air grabber hood ready.

First off the Air grabber hood i have has seen better days, pretty dang rusty and has a bow at the back hinge, along with some nice dents in the bubble. Budget Air Grabber if you will...

So Since the Hood is in such poor shape i am going to be reskinning the hood to a much nice flat hood underside...



Some of the Rust...



Top skin of Air Grabber Split from understructure...



The Donor Flat Hood Split...



Since there are many differences in the undersides of the Air Grabber and Flat Hoods I need to remove the bracing that would not be present on an air grabber hood...



The hood has braces and brackets between the two layers as well that need to be changed over. Here are the original Air grabber parts removed...



More to come on the hood...

Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 06/04/11 08:09 AM

I restored the tail light bezels as well, not 100% accurate as far as colors, but its hardware store stuff that is close enough for me...



All cleaned up...



Sprayed black...



Masked for the light argent outside edge, or in this case stainless steel



Masked off once again for the dark argent/ graphite...



Final Product...



Posted By: aspenrt360

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 06/06/11 12:36 AM

your back!
Posted By: migsBIG

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 06/22/11 10:12 PM

Love reading your post on the restoration. Hope to see more of your great work on the charger.
Posted By: 68KillerBee

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 08/15/12 12:01 PM

Bringing this back from the dead. I don't have any pictures of it, but hopefully somebody got some this weekend.
Car placed 1st in the modified young guns category!
Posted By: DynoDave

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 08/17/12 02:10 AM

Quote:

Bringing this back from the dead. I don't have any pictures of it, but hopefully somebody got some this weekend.
Car placed 1st in the modified young guns category!



Sweet!
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 08/18/12 01:15 PM

I'll try to get some pics of it this weekend, i actually have none. If anyone has any of it going down that track that would be awesome
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 08/20/12 03:08 AM

Here is a few pics of the car after i got home from nats...Ignore all the mud, it was bad conditions out there...









Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 08/20/12 03:16 AM

Some of the stuff that has not been posted but fought me with time in patience...

I had the "Super Bee" and "Charger Dodge division emblems made into matte black decals to be discreet and match the black on black decal theme...





I wanted to make the car look period correct, so i found a few items, that would help that them...




I added MSD ignition, then i couldn't shut the hood, had to do some mods. I had to notch out the air cleaner around the distributor, and i had to modify the air grabber box so the hood could close. Note the cutout on the box...



I added electric exhaust cutouts as well, i did not just want a tacky switch so i made it a little more factory appearing(yes it does work)...





Thanks for all the support through the entire project!
Posted By: aspenrt360

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 05/27/13 05:47 PM

still one of my favorite car saving threads! kudo's to you on this car that was an amazing amount of work!
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 05/29/13 02:11 PM

Thanks man! I learned a lot on this car and this is what started me on wanting to fully restore these cars! I learned a lot and met a lot of great folks!

Im still looking for any pics of it going down the track at the nats! If anyone has one let me know!
Posted By: sunroofgtx

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 05/30/13 03:24 AM

Amazing. Your girlfriend sure does great work. Better marry that girl.. Great job, bud. You have a huge future for yourself. Luv ya, Rick
Posted By: dangina

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 05/31/13 06:08 AM

Quote:


I added electric exhaust cutouts as well, i did not just want a tacky switch so i made it a little more factory appearing(yes it does work)...





Thanks for all the support through the entire project!



great prject, can't believe I'm just now coming across this, had to start from the begining. I love your chrome mylar tape idea for the interior panels (was wondering how to solve that issue) also I would like to know how you did it or what switch you used for the exhaust cuttouts, did you just buy another airgrabber switch? I wasn't sure as the switches are alot of money, anways it looks great!
Posted By: HemiChallenger

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build - 05/31/13 10:55 PM

Rick, Thanks man someday when i can afford to


dangina I did not use and air grabber switch i used the very easy and cheap to find rear defogger switch. It wasnt hard to do at all just time consuming. I pulled the orginal switch back off and installed the switch i got from QTP on the back. I can give you more info if your intersted!
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