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1974 360 4 Speed Road runner
Posted By: 3604speed
1974 360 4 Speed Road runner - 11/23/09 02:02 AM
We finally got my 1974 RR finished just a day before it was to be at Mopars at the Mansion. There was a lot of education from this project and I would like to help anybody out there doing one with what was learned.
I have not spent a lot of time on this web board and I am not sure how to post a photo of the project.
Posted By: rockerbob
Re: 1974 360 4 Speed Road runner - 11/23/09 02:12 AM
It looks good. Did you photo document it as the work went along. If you did & can post it as it developed that will of big help to many of us. Again the car looks very good
Posted By: 3604speed
Re: 1974 360 4 Speed Road runner - 11/23/09 02:44 AM
The car was found near Kingman AZ out in the middle of nowhere. Fortunately it was a an almost rust free car. There was some rust in a couple spots around the rear window and on the dutchman. The car had an aftermarket vinyl top added and water got in around the edges. The bad part was the factory sunroof panel. It was just a rusty frame. The previous owners repair was to screw a piece of Plexiglas on the roof. Yuck.
The car was done at Restorations By Rob in Buckeye, AZ
www.restorationsbyrob.comHis work is just awesome and his attention to detail is amazing.
The 74 RR as it was delivered to Rob
Posted By: 3604speed
Re: 1974 360 4 Speed Road runner - 11/23/09 06:17 AM
Here is an interior view.
Posted By: 3604speed
Re: 1974 360 4 Speed Road runner - 11/23/09 06:33 AM
Here it is as I found it in the desert near Kingman, AZ.
Posted By: 3604speed
Re: 1974 360 4 Speed Road runner - 11/23/09 06:37 AM
As you can see, there is not much sunroof insert left to work with.
Posted By: 3604speed
Re: 1974 360 4 Speed Road runner - 11/23/09 06:49 AM
This is what we started with for the interior. Legendary supplied the goods, but we had to use a regular headliner and get extra material to make the sunroof headliner. The problem was the bows did not line up.
Posted By: 3604speed
Re: 1974 360 4 Speed Road runner - 11/23/09 06:56 AM
The metal work that needed to be done was minor from the rust stand point, but there were a lot of holes to fill in from the aftermarket sunroof trim.
Posted By: 3604speed
Re: 1974 360 4 Speed Road runner - 11/23/09 07:01 AM
This was the worst rust damage. We found a guy that had cut out parts of the back window of a 73 Satellite and was selling the pieces on Craig's List. $40 for the right shape metal was a bargain. From there it was standard replacement procedure.
Posted By: 3604speed
Re: 1974 360 4 Speed Road runner - 11/23/09 07:07 AM
There were plenty of screw holes to weld when the Plexiglas went to the trash too. These sunroofs are hard to find. But let me clue you in on a secret. American Sunroof Company was the contractor for these B-Body sunroofs and they can be found in junkyards in C-Bodies and in Cadillacs. Yep, many big GM cars used this very same complete sunroof. I was lucky when a good friend found a near new condition complete sunroof assembly at the Spring Fling for $150.
Posted By: 3604speed
Re: 1974 360 4 Speed Road runner - 11/23/09 07:16 AM
Here is a good shot of the headliner finished up.
Posted By: 3604speed
Re: 1974 360 4 Speed Road runner - 11/23/09 07:21 AM
Under the hood is an interesting detail, and maybe somebody out there can help me. As you can see, the air cleaner snorkel is oval. That is correct for a 1974. But it is a short snout, which is an A-Body 360 air cleaner. I would like to find a correct long snout B-Body 1974 360 4V air cleaner. I have a VERY nice A-Body air cleaner to sell or trade when I find the right one.
Posted By: blaze
Re: 1974 360 4 Speed Road runner - 11/24/09 03:13 AM
Caddy's and C-bodies share the sunroof peices? Any specific years and/or models?
Posted By: 3604speed
Re: 1974 360 4 Speed Road runner - 11/24/09 04:32 AM
We needed the "Buttons" that raised up the sunroof into closed position. Tried to fab some up, but that did not work well. Then stumbled upon a mid 70s New Yorker. It was the same sunroof and had the buttons and a couple other seals that worked perfect. It looks like 76 -78 Caddies have the very same sunroof. That is not a 100% confirmation but the inserts appear to be correct for a Mopar. One of these days I will take my leftover frame assembly and accuaratly measure it. My information originally came from a retired American Sunroof person.
Posted By: NicksGarage
Re: 1974 360 4 Speed Road runner - 11/24/09 09:06 PM
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Under the hood is an interesting detail, and maybe somebody out there can help me. As you can see, the air cleaner snorkel is oval. That is correct for a 1974. But it is a short snout, which is an A-Body 360 air cleaner. I would like to find a correct long snout B-Body 1974 360 4V air cleaner. I have a VERY nice A-Body air cleaner to sell or trade when I find the right one.
Does that air cleaner have the flap in the bottom? I have pictures of a '74 360 long snorkel flapper on my air cleaner page but don't have any pictures of a '74 a-body one or confirmation of the flap status.
Posted By: DaytonaTurbo
Re: 1974 360 4 Speed Road runner - 11/25/09 12:53 AM
Great looking car!
Posted By: 69Cuda340S
Re: 1974 360 4 Speed Road runner - 11/25/09 03:52 AM
That color combo with 4 spd and sun roof is really something. That is a really nice car and very unique too.
Posted By: 3604speed
Re: 1974 360 4 Speed Road runner - 11/26/09 02:10 AM
Email me a reminder and I will try to remember to get some air cleaner photos this Christmas when I get to where the car is stored.
Posted By: 3604speed
Re: 1974 360 4 Speed Road runner - 11/26/09 02:15 AM
That is the air cleaner I need. Thanks for the detailed photos. I have another air cleaner that I will post photos of. Not sure of its application. It was in the trunk of a 73 Charger 400.
Posted By: 3604speed
Re: 1974 360 4 Speed Road runner - 11/26/09 02:20 AM
The 73 and 74 RRs are due for some respect. Not much was made in 73 and 74 to feed the needs of muscle and most of them have gone away. Not many are willing to spend the money and time to bring them back to life. Nice ride you have there as well.
Posted By: 3604speed
Re: 1974 360 4 Speed Road runner - 11/26/09 02:25 AM
Thank you 69Cuda340s for the complement. Appreciation from the Mopar faithful is take seriously in my book. I have always had a soft spot for 69 Barracudas. I missed out on a 69 Cuda Pack car a few years ago and have been kicking myself ever since.
Posted By: 3604speed
Re: 1974 360 4 Speed Road runner - 11/26/09 04:07 AM
Phoenix graphics supplied the great striping. It really set off the KB5 blue paint.
http://www.phoenixgraphix.com/
Posted By: MachoMan
Re: 1974 360 4 Speed Road runner - 11/26/09 01:11 PM
wow, that car is stunning.
blue n blue n white n 4spd n sunroof.
Posted By: 3604speed
Re: 1974 360 4 Speed Road runner - 11/26/09 08:02 PM
Thank you for the compliments. Restorations by Rob should get all the credit for how it came out. Of all my projects over the many years, this is the first one I took somewhere to get done start to finish. Rob is one that you can trust to do it right and on time. These 73 / 74 Road Runners are full of oddities that made it challenging, but teamwork got'er dun! It took a lot of help from the Mopar Family out there to find parts and make parts. It could not have been completed with their help.
Posted By: basketcase
Re: 1974 360 4 Speed Road runner - 11/26/09 11:39 PM
that is beautiful!
my first mopar was a '73 road runner 340 4 speed car. had a blast with it.
Posted By: dmoore
Re: 1974 360 4 Speed Road runner - 11/26/09 11:51 PM
That is a beautiful car..you should be very proud
Posted By: NicksGarage
Re: 1974 360 4 Speed Road runner - 11/28/09 06:07 AM
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Email me a reminder and I will try to remember to get some air cleaner photos this Christmas when I get to where the car is stored.
There's a '74 360 Duster in the classifieds that shows the air cleaner as well.
Posted By: rck850
Re: 1974 360 4 Speed Road runner - 11/29/09 04:31 AM
That car is amazing, It is also the only other 360 4 speed I have ever seen other than mine.
Mopar Muscle article Mine is originally JA5 silver with a black stripe but the previous owner did all the body and paint then lost interest. When I bought it all the pieces of the car were in boxes in the trunk. I too have the short snorkel air cleaner.
Posted By: 3604speed
Re: 1974 360 4 Speed Road runner - 11/29/09 04:53 AM
Nice to have a "Sister" car out there. We are few.
You too have a very nice ride! These Iso-K Frame cars do have nice highway manners. I had a JA5 74 RR before this one, but is was a 318 car that had been converted to a 440. I sold it to a Non-Mopar guy and he painted it white.
Posted By: NicksGarage
Re: 1974 360 4 Speed Road runner - 11/29/09 06:20 PM
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When I bought it all the pieces of the car were in boxes in the trunk. I too have the short snorkel air cleaner.
I wonder if the short snorkel one might be correct, at least for some cars. I have pictures of a restored '74 'Cuda 360 and it has the short snorkel air cleaner. As well as a Challenger.
Posted By: 3604speed
Re: 1974 360 4 Speed Road runner - 11/30/09 05:51 PM
Good question. I do not have that piece of air cleaner knowledge for sure. But now that the question is out there, What is correct????
Anybody out there in Mopardome have some input???
Should a 1974 Road Runner have a long or short snorkel air cleaner?
1974s only have oval air intakes on the snorkel. That much we know.
Posted By: NicksGarage
Re: 1974 360 4 Speed Road runner - 11/30/09 06:55 PM
And they have the OSAC valve on them.
So having the long oval snorkel, flap in the floor, OSAC valve, and being orange, I would think that it would be correct for a '74 performance car. Just not a lot of survivors out there to go by.
Posted By: 3604speed
Re: 1974 360 4 Speed Road runner - 12/22/09 05:22 PM
Ahhhhh..... Going for its first real cruise this week. Long time in the making but worth the wait!
Posted By: 72chrgrally
Re: 1974 360 4 Speed Road runner - 12/23/09 03:38 AM
Cool car man, and great job with the resto! Interesting that the sunroof I had a '74 Charger SE 440 auto sunroof car a few years ago, I sold it to free up some funds for other projects. The guy I sold it too still has it, I'll have to let him know about the caddy sunroofs.
Posted By: 3604speed
Re: 1974 360 4 Speed Road runner - 12/28/09 04:03 AM
Woah Yea! The car started, stopped and ran like a charm! We put a little over 40 miles on the o'l bird just before Christmas.
Posted By: CoronetRTguy
Re: 1974 360 4 Speed Road runner - 12/28/09 11:54 PM
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Woah Yea! The car started, stopped and ran like a charm! We put a little over 40 miles on the o'l bird just before Christmas.
That is a great looking Road Runner. I love that color combo and the white stripe just sets it all off.
Wow that is a great looking job.
Posted By: 3604speed
Re: 1974 360 4 Speed Road runner - 12/29/09 05:54 AM
The poor old 73/74 era was almost totally forgot about. Even most of the Mopar people looked disinterested with them. But they are the last gasp of an era gone by. I am happy to see more of them popping up in ads and for sale. They are not easy to do and not a lot of NOS or reproduction parts are out there. But through a friend of mine we convinced an aftermarket mfg to reproduce the rear bumper filler strip and side pieces for 73 /74s. Look for that to be available soon!
Posted By: Hotwheelsjr
Re: 1974 360 4 Speed Road runner - 12/29/09 07:45 AM
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The poor old 73/74 era was almost totally forgot about. Even most of the Mopar people looked disinterested with them. But they are the last gasp of an era gone by. I am happy to see more of them popping up in ads and for sale. They are not easy to do and not a lot of NOS or reproduction parts are out there. But through a friend of mine we convinced an aftermarket mfg to reproduce the rear bumper filler strip and side pieces for 73 /74s. Look for that to be available soon!
I'll be looking! 
I don't have a close-up of it, but it's shot!
Posted By: ScottSmith_Harms
Re: 1974 360 4 Speed Road runner - 12/29/09 04:58 PM
Sure nice seeing a Road Runner in it's natural habitat!
NICE car!
Posted By: RUNCHARGER
Re: 1974 360 4 Speed Road runner - 12/29/09 06:24 PM
I've always liked the 73-74 Road Runners. I bought a new 75 Road Runner when I was 19 years old. I wish I could have afforded a new one just one year earlier.
Sheldon
Posted By: 3604speed
Re: 1974 360 4 Speed Road runner - 12/29/09 07:59 PM
My first one was an A5 Silver 74. I sold it to a Chevy guy and he promptly painted it white! It is now in a pile mostly and he wants to sell it, but can't find a buyer. Everybody that looks at it wants to know why he painted it. Chevy guys just don't understand. If it had been a basket case that might have been different, this was a nice well optioned original car that ran and drove nice!
Posted By: jstewart
Re: 1974 360 4 Speed Road runner - 01/05/10 04:25 AM
this is one of the finest looking 74 models ive seen great job
Posted By: 3604speed
Re: 1974 360 4 Speed Road runner - 01/07/10 05:50 AM
Thank you so much for the wonderful complents!
Posted By: Ron_M
Re: 1974 360 4 Speed Road runner - 01/07/10 06:15 PM
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That car is amazing, It is also the only other 360 4 speed I have ever seen other than mine. Mopar Muscle article
Mine is originally JA5 silver with a black stripe but the previous owner did all the body and paint then lost interest. When I bought it all the pieces of the car were in boxes in the trunk. I too have the short snorkel air cleaner.
Here's another one. RM21L4, D21, KB5. Only it has a 360/380 Magnum after the NOM gave up.
Posted By: 3604speed
Re: 1974 360 4 Speed Road runner - 01/09/10 06:01 AM
Very nice ride! We are building a 73/74 Road Runner Club.
Posted By: Blue70
Re: 1974 360 4 Speed Road runner - 01/28/10 02:18 PM
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Very nice ride! We are building a 73/74 Road Runner Club.
Can I join?
By the way, some good looking cars in this thread
Posted By: DartSportDude
Re: 1974 360 4 Speed Road runner - 01/29/10 07:49 PM
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The poor old 73/74 era was almost totally forgot about. Even most of the Mopar people looked disinterested with them. But they are the last gasp of an era gone by.
I agree 100%. I've owned my '73 Dart Sport 340 since 1976 and it's undergone a complete, ground-up restoration. The Dart is a true TX9, black on black California car. I've never had it decoded by Galen (although I've done the decoding myself), but I imagine it's a pretty rare car, too.
It's about time people got over this silly notion, promoted in recent years by the car magazines, that the "muscle car era ended in 1972." No one denies that performance took a significant hit after 1971, but the later cars were far from being "boat anchors." After all, the term "performance car" is relative.
I'm always amazed when magazines fawn over a '72 340 car (240 net hp) and talk about it's hot performance engine, but then turn around and refer to a '73 340 car (same 240 net hp) as a "smogger." This just shows how ill-informed some of these "experts" truly are.
Anyway, I love the '74 Roadrunner. Great job on the restoration!
Posted By: rserio
Re: 1974 360 4 Speed Road runner - 02/02/10 03:08 PM
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Very nice ride! We are building a 73/74 Road Runner Club.
That is one sweet looking roadrunner. If a 73-74 club gets started, i'm in!
Ron
Posted By: MOPAR_AMC_FAN
Re: 1974 360 4 Speed Road runner - 02/06/10 05:29 PM
I love the 73 and 74 Satellite/RoadRunner body style. Very nice looking. My first Mopar was a 74 Charger with a 440. Not exactly the same, but I agree about the ride. A friend of mine is currently restoring a 74 RoadRunner GTX, red with white strip and white interior, 440, bench seat, auto-on-column. Judging by his previous restorations, it should come out very nice. Can't wait till he's done with it.
Your blue 74 360 4 speed RR is beautiful. I know I'd love to own it!
Posted By: DusterKrazy
Re: 1974 360 4 Speed Road runner - 02/15/10 04:56 PM
I love your '74
They dont make any repo parts for these do they? I dont think they make quarters for them either
Posted By: DaytonaTurbo
Re: 1974 360 4 Speed Road runner - 02/15/10 09:09 PM
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I love your '74 They dont make any repo parts for these do they? I dont think they make quarters for them either
Unfortunately no repro sheetmetal for the back is available at all.
Posted By: Hardy
Re: 1974 360 4 Speed Road runner - 02/15/10 10:00 PM
I'm having some problems finding the front and rear exterior window chrome trim for my 73 roadrunner. Some parts are hard to find. for this year.
Posted By: DartSportDude
Re: 1974 360 4 Speed Road runner - 02/15/10 10:10 PM
It would be nice if the after-market would wake-up and realize there are plenty of '72 and newer owners who are trying to restore their cars, and have cash in hand to spend on reproduction parts. Unfortunately, this situation will never end as long as the so-called muscle car "experts" keep telling the hobby that anything newer than a '72 isn't worth bothering with...
Posted By: DusterKrazy
Re: 1974 360 4 Speed Road runner - 02/15/10 10:31 PM
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I love your '74 They dont make any repo parts for these do they? I dont think they make quarters for them either
Unfortunately no repro sheetmetal for the back is available at all.
I guess I gotta find a junked Satellite somewhere? Or home fabricate the lower portions
Posted By: DaytonaTurbo
Re: 1974 360 4 Speed Road runner - 02/15/10 11:55 PM
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I love your '74 They dont make any repo parts for these do they? I dont think they make quarters for them either
Unfortunately no repro sheetmetal for the back is available at all.
I guess I gotta find a junked Satellite somewhere? Or home fabricate the lower portions
Yep.
Posted By: Hardy
Re: 1974 360 4 Speed Road runner - 02/16/10 03:49 AM
On my rear quarters I found the inner piece and made the exterior on my own
Posted By: DusterKrazy
Re: 1974 360 4 Speed Road runner - 02/17/10 11:02 PM
How much do you know about '74 Roadrunners? I would love to find someone "in the know" on these.
There isnt much out there as far info and even most mopar guys shun them. Would love to pick someone's brain...
Posted By: DusterKrazy
Re: 1974 360 4 Speed Road runner - 03/26/10 04:28 PM
pssst: hey you! There's 73/74 Thread on the general section that YOU should get into
Did you bring *the stuff*? you know I only really like the nacho cheese pretzel combos
Posted By: 3604speed
Re: 1974 360 4 Speed Road runner - 07/20/10 12:17 AM
I would love to be a part of that club. 73/74 RRs are cool cars.
Posted By: 3604speed
Re: 1974 360 4 Speed Road runner - 07/20/10 12:18 AM
Way cool ride!
Posted By: 3604speed
Re: 1974 360 4 Speed Road runner - 07/20/10 12:21 AM
I am no expert, but I will share what I have learned from doing mine from the ground up.
Posted By: Joesixpack
Re: 1974 360 4 Speed Road runner - 07/20/10 01:20 AM
Thats a beautiful RoadRunner, 73 and 74s are sweet looking cars, undervalued,tough to restore as parts are hard to find,being a 2 year deal....I parted out some back in the day, wishing i still had the 73 340 4 speeder,black with red stripes,black interior, bench seat,with the wildest pistol grip shifter!got the fender tag stuffed away somewhere...
Posted By: 3604speed
Re: 1974 360 4 Speed Road runner - 07/20/10 03:12 AM
All too familiar story. I seem to gravitate to things that are hard to restore. I have parted out several 73/74 RRs and Satellites when I lived in Iowa. Their value is going up. More and more people are starting to like them. I have a very nice offer on the table for mine but I have too much heart and soul in it to accept the offer. And it is a blast to drive. They have such good street manners. I really think I would have spent less money doing a 69.
Posted By: DusterKrazy
Re: 1974 360 4 Speed Road runner - 07/20/10 02:13 PM
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All too familiar story. I seem to gravitate to things that are hard to restore. I have parted out several 73/74 RRs and Satellites when I lived in Iowa. Their value is going up. More and more people are starting to like them. I have a very nice offer on the table for mine but I have too much heart and soul in it to accept the offer. And it is a blast to drive. They have such good street manners. I really think I would have spent less money doing a 69.
Probably so, they actually make stuff for '69's.
They make nothing for '73/4's 
Posted By: HYPER8oSoNic
Re: 1974 360 4 Speed Road runner - 07/20/10 08:40 PM
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Sure nice seeing a Road Runner in it's natural habitat!
NICE car!
100%. BEEEP-BEEEP!!
Posted By: RichV
Re: 1974 360 4 Speed Road runner - 07/21/10 07:35 PM
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Caddy's and C-bodies share the sunroof peices? Any specific years and/or models?
There some information on B, C and E body Sunroofs at the Roadrunners Nest. Per that information the B and E are the same size but the C body is bigger.
http://www.roadrunnernest.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=140
Posted By: EccentricMagpies
Re: 1974 360 4 Speed Road runner - 08/05/10 04:24 AM
hmmmm....
I never really seen the resolution to the air cleaner comments. What is the correct air cleaner? Long/short snout?
Still debateable?
just curious.. i bought a '74 charger rallye 360/4spd back in march and it had a dual snorkel... i think this is wrong completely...so i'm curious
Posted By: torredcuda
Re: 1974 360 4 Speed Road runner - 08/15/10 12:22 PM
My 2nd car was a Satellite Sebring Plus so I`ve always had a soft spot for these cars and have had a few more Sat`s.My `74 318 road runner was a nice driving car and it was an odd car as it was green on green but coded for a vinyl roof and no stripe.
Posted By: 440beep
Re: 1974 360 4 Speed Road runner - 08/15/10 04:02 PM
Posted By: joewhite440
Re: 1974 360 4 Speed Road runner - 08/15/10 11:58 PM
Yes they are overlooked and are just as nice as the 71/72 models (except engine choices). My brother had a Black 73 with white stripes and Black interior 318 auto car. At the same time one of my friends here had a Black 73 with Red stripes Red interior with a big block Auto.
They were both good looking cars but rusted out very quick for no older than the cars were. This was like 1980 or 81.
Posted By: joewhite440
Re: 1974 360 4 Speed Road runner - 08/17/10 10:40 PM
Wow
Those cars look great in Blue!!!
Posted By: aspenrt360
Re: 1974 360 4 Speed Road runner - 08/20/10 12:32 AM
that is a fine car! really nice
Posted By: gts340swinger
Re: 1974 360 4 Speed Road runner - 08/26/10 06:20 PM
I've got a 73 RR sitting in the back garage right now. It was a 318 3 speed car, FE5 red with black gut. It's now painted 92 Viper Red and is waiting for my f-i-l to come and get it and put it back together. I sold it to him about ten years ago and if he gets to it, won't be long before it's back on the street. It will be a rough to drive car. Manual trans, manual brakes, manual steering with a 500+ horse 440.
