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My 63 Dodge 330 Project:
Posted By: Anonymous
My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 08/04/09 03:38 PM
I've posted a few pics of things like the dash over in the general section but I've actually made good progess here lately on the body and motor. I shot DPLF epoxy primer yesterday morning. Heres a few pics:
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 08/04/09 03:39 PM
'nother
This side had a large dent in the top of the door where something fell on it, a dent behind the door and a large scrape behind the rear wheel. 99% of it pulled out with a stud gun and lots of effort. Very little filler!
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 08/04/09 03:54 PM
Front Fender:
Original fender was hammered and bondoed beyond repair so I started with a Polara fender that I had to weld shut the trim holes. It also had rusted out where the dog leg holds debris so I welded in a new patch. I also welded shut the holes for the emblem.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 08/04/09 03:56 PM
Motor:
I got the heads back from the machine shop this weekend so they're painted and installed. Just need a few more odds and ends for it. 440 that will be done up to resemble 426 Stage II Maxie (when funds allow for the crossram!)
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 08/04/09 03:57 PM
Dash:
Interior was teal green and had enough rust that the bottom edges of the dash had started to pit.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 08/04/09 03:58 PM
Grille:
Stripped the anodizing, fixed the dents and polished.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 08/04/09 03:59 PM
Forgot about this pic:
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 08/04/09 04:28 PM
Red interior changeover from teal:
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 08/04/09 04:29 PM
More red interior parts:
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 08/04/09 04:36 PM
Don't have pics but changed it over from /6 to V-8 K-frame and rebuilt the front suspension. Also swapped the nutted 8 3/4 rear axle for one out of a '70 B-body.
Floorpans were shot so they were replaced with new reproduction sheetmetal and epoxy primed as well.
That's all for now...
Posted By: Fab64
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 08/04/09 05:11 PM
Wow, very nice work!!
Can I send you my grille surrounds?
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 08/04/09 08:37 PM
Quote:
Can I send you my grille surrounds?
NO!
I have enough transmission and distributor work on the side that I can't get my own stuff done! LOL!
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 08/19/09 03:03 PM
Minor update:
Got the heads back from the machine shop and painted them and the '67 intake that I had so I can run a Holley square bore carb (for now) without using an adapter.
M/T valvecovers were new, never bolted on pieces that I found at a garage sale down the street for $10.00!! Will look period correct for the car...
Engine is a conglomeration of really good pieces that I put together from multiple motors. Block and rotating assembly is '75 440 that had virtually NO wear on any of the rotating assembly or bores. '69 906 heads with 40 thou whack top that off with the aforementioned '67 intake and 440 source sluminum pump/housing/waterneck.
Posted By: Mopower_333
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 08/19/09 11:13 PM
There was a post in the racers section about those ports on the 440source water pump housings were waay small compared to the originals and were causing cooling problems. Thought you should know, just incase you run into problems.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 08/20/09 02:05 PM
I saw that but thanks for mentioning it. I have a cast iron housing sitting on the shelf to replace it if I need to. I'm going to inspect it really close tonight!
Front of motor with new (made in USA) pulley and alternator bracket from 440 source. Very nice pieces and fit perfectly!
Alternator is old unit for mock up only.
I'm using allen head black oxide bolts for the water pump housing, bottom pulley and intake manifold for a different look. I may switch out some of the smaller bolts like the valley tray end pieces as well.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 08/31/09 02:14 PM
I epoxy primed the engine bay this weekend, installed the motor and the new dual bail lightweight mastercylinder. Don't have any good pics of the engine in since it was getting dark and didn't have good light in the garage.
Inner fender:
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 08/31/09 08:57 PM
Pic of inner fender before paint:
(yeah, I know, kinda backwards...)
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 09/14/09 02:25 PM
Installed the dash, hooked up the brake pedal to the master cylinder, did the wiring in the engine compartment and made some rubber splash guards for the access holes in the inner fenders. Duplicated the orignals perfectly! Mostly small stuff but it's starting to come together!
Man, I'm glad I bagged and tagged where all the parts go. Otherwise I'd NEVER find this stuff!
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 11/09/09 01:17 AM
Few more updates..
Installed Wilwood disc brake setup on the front:
Neighbor did the cool safety wire on the back that you can't see. I'll take a pic of the backside of the passenger side hub/rotor before I install...
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 11/09/09 01:18 AM
New front fender media stripped and ready for minor bodywork and Epoxy:
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 11/09/09 01:19 AM
Nother of the fender:
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 11/09/09 01:20 AM
Engine Compartment:
You can't really tell but passenger fender is bolted on with stainless fasteners to clean up the engine compartment.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 11/09/09 01:23 AM
Close up of engine.
Carb needs a spacer for the throttle linkage to properly clear the intake.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 11/09/09 01:30 AM
Superstock springs #456 and #457. New tank, brake lines etc. soon...
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 11/09/09 01:31 AM
New tank:
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 11/09/09 01:33 AM
Cheetah full manual valvebody and Turbo Action convertor soon to be installed in transmission(no pics).
New 3.55 gearset with suregrip with 742 case sitting here still wrapped up. More new pics soon!
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 11/11/09 07:34 PM
'nother "pig" shot:
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 11/11/09 07:37 PM
FedEx just dropped off the seat brackets this morning:
Got them at a great deal through Moparcrazy.com!
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 11/11/09 07:37 PM
Inner bracket:
Interior
should be back from upholstry sometime next week!
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 11/12/09 08:23 PM
Finished off rebuilding the transmission today and installed a Cheetah pro-street full manual valvebody.
(bands weren't adjusted yet so no, I didn't forget to tighten the lock nut on the rear one....)
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 11/12/09 08:24 PM
valvebody:
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 11/12/09 08:28 PM
Outer case and rear mount from Imperial Services that adapts early body mount to later 727. I blasted and painted the mount inself (nasty and full of crud!)
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 11/12/09 08:29 PM
That's all for now.....
I need to pull the engine back out to clearance the front K--frame for the deep sump oil pan. After that I can put the engine and trans in and hopefully it'll be the final time.
The great part about this project is I'm doing 99.5% of the work myself! Having the seats re-covered is the only thing that I'm really farming out to someone else. That and the machine work on the engine.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 11/25/09 07:43 PM
Safety wired Wilwood rotors:
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 11/25/09 07:47 PM
Fuel tank, rear springs, and 3rd member all installed. Just need drum brakes rebuilt to finish off the rear.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 11/25/09 07:49 PM
15x8 steelies from Summit to go on the rear:
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 11/25/09 07:55 PM
Side shot of the car in the garage:
Some people have asked why it's going back together without the final coat of paint on it. Couple of reasons:
1. I think the flat black is sinister especially on this body style.
2. I want to fully shake down the car, check for oil leaks, and basically make sure everything is perfect before final paint.
3. Next winter I'll blow the car apart and do it up in gloss black. I still haven't given the undercarriage the attention it deserves so next winter will be the time for that as well.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 11/25/09 09:45 PM
Nice job, I like the idea of stainless fasteners. The car does have that look in black primer.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 12/03/09 04:55 AM
Pulled the motor back out to install the flexplate. Probably could've done it in the car but it was just a couple of bolts and less than an hour to pull it, install plate and put it back in. The B&M external balance flexplate is SFI approved and eliminates the need for weights on the convertor! I made sure and marked the convertors relations ship to the cutout so it bolted in perfectly.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 12/03/09 04:59 AM
Playing around with the mini starter mocking it up on the trans with the bolts to make sure everything is kosher. I hate suprises.
I removed the extra terminals and the whole thing went in smoothly save for a dowel pin on the passenger side of the motor that was too long. Shaved it down and everything went together smoothly!
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 12/03/09 05:04 AM
Sneak peek of what it looks like on the passenger side with the fender bolted on.
One thing I've learned in all of this is that it's much easier to work on the engine/transmission/engine compartment with the drivers fender and hood hinge OFF!
I need to figure out what rear tires to go with. I really like the look of the pie-cut slicks but they're kinda pricey. Besides I like to drive my cars a LOT. Most of the D.O.T. street slicks have a modern tread design that doesn't look right on the old cars IMO.
Posted By: Primer King
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 12/04/09 09:22 PM
It's looking GREAT!!! If you were to ask me, I'd say leave it in primer! I share the opinion that they are a good way to kill an otherwise cool MoPar!
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 12/21/09 06:31 PM
Haven't got a lot done lately.
I've been busy with christmas programs for the kids and running them around.
Polished all 4 hubcaps:
(probably won't use but it was hanging there needing attention.)
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 12/21/09 06:34 PM
Remaining rear brake hardware that I picked up in KC last friday:
Thanks Rick and Kelly!
Hope to have the seats finally picked up this week and some real pic's of progress.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 12/23/09 10:00 PM
We have seats!
They're not nearly as glossy as the pics show. The flash causes that for some reason.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 12/23/09 10:01 PM
Rear seat done to match fronts:
It may not be an original pattern but I wanted A-100 seats in the car and to have a back seat too. He did a great job of matching the pattern from A-100's to the rear!
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 12/23/09 10:04 PM
Rear package tray panel:
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 12/26/09 12:10 AM
Brackets installed on seats:
Posted By: Neil
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 12/26/09 07:20 PM
Quote:
Sneak peek of what it looks like on the passenger side with the fender bolted on.
One thing I've learned in all of this is that it's much easier to work on the engine/transmission/engine compartment with the drivers fender and hood hinge OFF!
I need to figure out what rear tires to go with. I really like the look of the pie-cut slicks but they're kinda pricey. Besides I like to drive my cars a LOT. Most of the D.O.T. street slicks have a modern tread design that doesn't look right on the old cars IMO.
I was going to suggest the M/T Indy Profile or those "I" pattern tires for the rear, but they don't make them anymore. They aren't a 60's tire, but they aren't a new tire either.
Hoosier makes a decent looking pro street radial, but I don't know if they are narrow enough to fit. If you don't drive in the rain the Hoosier quick time or quick time pro tires are a good choice. They are pretty sticky, even on the street.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 12/26/09 11:13 PM
I may end up with a pair of American Racer tires.
They used to be McCreary's.
I'm going to go down Monday and see what the total punchout is for a pair.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 01/14/10 01:51 AM
Rear brake on drivers side:
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 03/09/10 04:18 PM
Tinkering with small stuff like trim and headlights since it's not quite warm enough to finish off the other hood and front fender.
Restored headlight housing:
REALLY crusty and rusty before.
Posted By: Primer King
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 03/13/10 05:30 PM
Love the A-100 rear seat idea. Looks factory!
Posted By: TonyS451
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 03/13/10 08:01 PM
The car is coming along very nicely. I like your style, and always loved the red interior in the early B bodies. I'm wondering if your dog dish caps will fit on those Summit wheels?? The caps are 10" and usually it takes a early B wheel or something pre 66 to use those caps. Most steelies out there only accept a 9" cap. Either way, Im really digging the ride - keep up the good work
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 03/13/10 11:18 PM
Yep, they'll fit but I'm probably not going to put them on.
I epoxied some later model small caps inside of the early big caps to get them to work.
Driveshaft, radiator, fan, and plug wires and she'll be ready to fire!
Posted By: TonyS451
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 03/13/10 11:32 PM
Quote:
Yep, they'll fit but I'm probably not going to put them on.
I epoxied some later model small caps inside of the early big caps to get them to work.
Driveshaft, radiator, fan, and plug wires and she'll be ready to fire!
Very clever
Posted By: Billy no mates
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 03/14/10 06:22 PM
Hi did you price up the American Racer tyres?. Also can you tell me what year the A100 seats are I'm looking for a pair.
thanks Billy
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 03/14/10 10:12 PM
I can get the American Racer's at a reduced cost from a local guy that races them. Last pair I got was $20 apiece and 3/4 tread!
I went by about 2 months ago and he was supposed to scare some up for me but I need to follow up.
No idea on the year of the seats. The small family salvage knew I wanted them and had them waiting on me when I got there. Paid $80 but they were in pretty sad shape.
Posted By: Day2Runner
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 03/16/10 06:05 PM
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 04/27/10 02:15 AM
Okay, been a while since I posted any progress, but I've been working on the steering wheel. Whew, shoulda got pics of it before but there were more cracks than I thought possible. The top portion of the wheel was so cracked it was spinning on the steel core!
I took an angle grinder with a cutoff wheel to clean out all the cracks (gulp!) and make them bigger. Then I applied a liberal dose of PC-7 Epoxy. This stuff is awesome! After that I got bummed and put it away for the winter because it was taking too long to make it look purty. I took up the cause again this spring and here are the results.
Orignal teal green wheel that I should've thrown away!
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 04/27/10 02:15 AM
'nother:
Putting it on the engine stand was great since I could rotate it and get all areas evenly and really lay the paint down smooth!
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 04/27/10 02:17 AM
Its really hard to capture the details but both center bars were cracked where they meet the wheel and at the center along with multiple WIDE cracks around the perimeter of the wheel itself. This was a really challenging area to get to look "right".
Posted By: HitIt
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 06/03/10 11:37 PM
Looks great so far, keep it up and give us an update. I just finished my resto on my 64 330.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 06/03/10 11:47 PM
Thanks!
I smoothed and painted the steering column a couple of weeks ago. I just need to re-assemble and take pictures.
Posted By: HitIt
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 07/09/10 08:41 PM
Let's see an update man!
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 07/11/10 05:52 PM
Been working 6 days a week in two jobs and doing the daddy daycare thing since school's out. I haven't really done much. I do need to get pics of the column and finish it off....
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 07/13/10 12:54 AM
Allright, finally got off my dead a$$ and did some on the column to finish it off. I really should've taken before pics but never thought about it. Column was a manual 3 onnatree, teal green and had been in a car sitting with the windows down for quite a few years. I shaved the stub and filled in the hole for the shifter since I'm running a manual valvebody t-flite.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 07/13/10 12:56 AM
Where the stub was:
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 07/13/10 12:58 AM
Ground off the shifter arms for a flush look in the engine compartment:
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 07/13/10 12:59 AM
Overall I'm pretty pleased with the way it turned out. This is just me doing my best on a very minimal budget and building a car I can beat on once in a while.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 07/13/10 01:01 AM
One more:
Posted By: Neil
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 07/13/10 02:13 AM
Nice work.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 09/15/10 02:35 AM
Minor progress
Bent, cut and flared the lines for the dual bail conversion. I also cleaned and ended up painting the engine compartment lines to preserve them.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 09/15/10 02:38 AM
Wider shot that shows the rest of the line on the firewall:
That camera flash sure makes things look dirty...
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 09/24/10 08:03 PM
Got the drivers side fender in PPG DP90LF today. It turned out very nice with the only issues where the primer soaked into the skim coat over where the emblem holes used to be. I'll rough it up with a scotchbrite and it'll look uniform.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 09/24/10 08:08 PM
Got a few other pieces like the bumper filler piece, lower valence and the piece that bolts to both front fenders done:
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 09/24/10 08:11 PM
Here is a shot of where they normally rust through. My other fender was good but this one was REALLY nice:
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 09/28/10 07:14 PM
Couple more of it bolted on the car. Still need to tweak it some to get the seam between door and fender narrower. Door needs to move up some since it's really close at the back.
Hanging sheetmetal is a PITA!
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 09/28/10 07:16 PM
Shot one of the interior while I was out there. Seats aren't bolted in place yet. Still need to get carpet and get the steering column bolted in.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 10/27/10 12:51 AM
Bolted in the steering column today. Really happy with how it looks. I need to break the bank and buy a speaker grille or have something fabbed up I suppose...
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 10/27/10 12:52 AM
Overall (blurry) shot:
Posted By: CHAPPER
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 11/09/10 05:19 PM
Quote:
Grille:
Stripped the anodizing, fixed the dents and polished.
What did you use to strip the anodizing off the aluminum??? I've heard oven cleaner, but didn't work for me!
Posted By: moparpollack
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 11/09/10 05:48 PM
Quote:
Quote:
Grille:
Stripped the anodizing, fixed the dents and polished.
What did you use to strip the anodizing off the aluminum??? I've heard oven cleaner, but didn't work for me!
You must gotten the fume free oven cleaner get Mr. Muscle it eats the anodizing off.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 11/09/10 07:15 PM
Quote:
Quote:
Grille:
Stripped the anodizing, fixed the dents and polished.
What did you use to strip the anodizing off the aluminum??? I've heard oven cleaner, but didn't work for me!
Use the good Easy Off. (NOT fume free)
It took about three applications and putting the grille in the hot sun for it to work really well.
Got the grille put in and a few other things done but haven't taken pics. It's starting to look like a car again!
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 11/09/10 08:26 PM
Here's the hood:
(It's dusty fingerprints on the front edge, btw.)
Scoop is a 2/3 sized MAS scoop that isn't mounted correctly, big centered hole cut in the hood etc.
A buddy ended up giving me a really clean, used Fiberglass Trends scoop that is pretty close to the originals in dimensions except that it was way too long. (Found it on a '56 Chevy in the salvage yard!)
I ended up cutting it shorter and will properly locate it along with the crossram holes in the hood and elimination of the underhood bracing but, for now, this will have to do!
For those who want to know the original dimensions:
They are roughly 24"w x 26"l.
Fiberglass Trends was 24" x 33"
MAS was 20" x 26" (way too narrow!)
Located about 3/8"-1/2" from the rear edge of the hood.
So, obviously this one is WAY off.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 11/09/10 08:29 PM
Hood emblem after polish and paint:
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 11/09/10 08:37 PM
Here is the FT scoop cut to size:
Anyone have the location of the holes in the hood for a crossram setup? (yes, I know, HemiEddy on Ebay sells a template...
)
Posted By: MRVCODE
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 11/10/10 05:11 AM
The car looks great! Keep posting the pics, I look forward to seeing it completed...I love those 63's
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 11/14/10 10:20 PM
Grille, headlights, headlight rings and wiring done:
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 11/14/10 10:25 PM
Another pic of frontend:
Keep in mind these are the original headlight rings that I painstakingly knocked all the dents out of, wet sanded and polished. I didn't really think they could be saved but they turned out decent.
The real fun came from taping off the blacked out areas of the grill and painting those!
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 11/14/10 10:31 PM
Overall shot of frontend:
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 11/14/10 10:34 PM
With hood installed:
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 11/14/10 10:39 PM
'nother shot with hood down.
Not happy with the hood or the scoop so I'm going to refinish the light blue one in the background.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 11/14/10 10:44 PM
Seam along the edge of the hood/fender:
It turned out really straight and even on both sides despite the front fenders and hood all 3 being from different cars!
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 11/14/10 10:47 PM
Latest of the engine:
I pulled the M/T valvecovers and did kind of a tribute to the Max Wedge. No, they're not correct, but I like the look a whole lot better than the M/T's and they were free!
I still have to finish off a few things in the engine compartment but it will probably be Spring before it roars.
Alternator will be replaced as it's just there for mockup.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 11/15/10 02:12 AM
Before of the valvecovers:
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 11/15/10 02:14 AM
Looking really good Mark. It will certainly be nice to get the project completed won"t it.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 11/15/10 02:22 AM
Quote:
Looking really good Mark. It will certainly be nice to get the project completed won"t it.
Thanks!
It will be nice to get it drivable.
It'll never be truly completed as I have all kinds of motor plans but no $$$ to do them with!
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 11/15/10 02:33 AM
I hear ya on the that.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 11/15/10 02:50 AM
It's funny because as I was installing the grille the other night I determined 1994 was the last time it was in the car!
The Dodge sat in the back of dad's barn for 15+ years while I played with other toys but I always knew I'd get back to it.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 11/22/10 01:01 AM
Front bumper brackets:
I wirewheeled and painted to preserve them.
I'm soaking the bolts in the Moparts rust removal recipe or the bumper would be on right now!
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 11/22/10 01:02 AM
Both:
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 11/23/10 11:28 PM
With bumper:
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 11/23/10 11:29 PM
'nother of the bumper.
Needs a "Direct Connection" or some kind of "Dodge" plate.
Original chrome bumper that, once all the grime and old overspray was cleaned off, came out looking really nice!
Car that it was on had been re-painted and they didn't bother to mask the bumper very well!
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 12/14/10 12:12 AM
Sweet! Found out that someone reproduces the "plugs" for the holes in the firewall when the heater was deleted.
They look like a conical bolt coming out of a rubber plug!
That will make a nice Christmas present...
Posted By: 70B5Cuda
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 12/20/10 04:49 PM
Hurry and get it on the road Mark! I want a ride since mine won't be road worthy anytime soon....Looks good!
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 12/20/10 05:27 PM
I'll do a Spring unveil by leaving black marks in front of the house.
You'll be one of the first to get a ride!
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 01/16/11 12:45 AM
Heater delete plugs:
It's amazing how the little things make you all giddy.
Too cold to actually work on the car!
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 01/16/11 12:55 AM
1/25 scale resin version of the car:
Not quite finished.
Used the motor and front suspension form the Revell Pro-Modeller '69 Charger.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 01/17/11 11:02 PM
Radio delete plate someone asked about for reference:
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 01/26/11 10:14 PM
Dinkin' around with cellphone pics to see how they look:
Left front fender.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 01/26/11 10:15 PM
More cell phone:
Rear quarter.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 01/29/11 12:09 AM
Cleaned up the taillights and trial fit them. Still need to get gaskets.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 01/29/11 12:11 AM
Close up.
Would really like the reproductions but these will have to make do for now...
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 01/29/11 12:16 AM
Rearend housing, ss springs, new tank and shocks:
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 01/29/11 04:10 AM
Looking killer dude!
Posted By: moparsteve
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 01/31/11 11:03 PM
Nice looking ride!Lot of time and effort in it, turning out sweet.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 02/02/11 09:32 PM
Just got my 3/8" fuel line for the Holley from Fabulous Fabrications. I used their lines on my '71 'Cuda and they tucked up nicely, didn't leak and were one of the few parts I didn't have to dink with!
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 02/16/11 04:37 PM
New fuel line:
I'm really happy with the way it fits!
Sometimes it's just easier to buy things like this than it is to bend up your own!
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 02/16/11 04:41 PM
Put on the rear bumper brackets. Just little things but still it's progress!
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 03/30/11 09:20 PM
Speaker grille for "big hole" in the dash! LOL!
Posted By: dannysbee
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 03/30/11 09:59 PM
Too bad they don't make a good reproduction for a reasonable price.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 03/30/11 10:14 PM
Thought about reproducing them in resin but looks to be a PITA. I'd have to find an NOS one to duplicate...
Posted By: THE GLASS MAN
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 03/30/11 10:17 PM
Quote:
Here's the hood:
(It's dusty fingerprints on the front edge, btw.)
Scoop is a 2/3 sized MAS scoop that isn't mounted correctly, big centered hole cut in the hood etc.
A buddy ended up giving me a really clean, used Fiberglass Trends scoop that is pretty close to the originals in dimensions except that it was way too long. (Found it on a '56 Chevy in the salvage yard!)
I ended up cutting it shorter and will properly locate it along with the crossram holes in the hood and elimination of the underhood bracing but, for now, this will have to do!
For those who want to know the original dimensions:
They are roughly 24"w x 26"l.
Fiberglass Trends was 24" x 33"
MAS was 20" x 26" (way too narrow!)
Located about 3/8"-1/2" from the rear edge of the hood.
So, obviously this one is WAY off.
Thought these measurements were not correct, so I went out into the blizzard and to the garage where my aluminum nose 63 Dodge is at and did a few measurements. Here they are---and these are from an OEM Aluminum scoop---35"long---28" wide at the front---2 1/4 high in front---2 3/4 from the back edge of the hood to the center of the rear of the scoop. OEM scoops cost alot of bucks but I sell fiberglass replicas everyday for $230 plus $35 for shipping. I am Sled City Fiberglass, located in Grove City, Ohio.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 03/30/11 10:23 PM
Quote:
Quote:
Here's the hood:
(It's dusty fingerprints on the front edge, btw.)
Scoop is a 2/3 sized MAS scoop that isn't mounted correctly, big centered hole cut in the hood etc.
A buddy ended up giving me a really clean, used Fiberglass Trends scoop that is pretty close to the originals in dimensions except that it was way too long. (Found it on a '56 Chevy in the salvage yard!)
I ended up cutting it shorter and will properly locate it along with the crossram holes in the hood and elimination of the underhood bracing but, for now, this will have to do!
For those who want to know the original dimensions:
They are roughly 24"w x 26"l.
Fiberglass Trends was 24" x 33"
MAS was 20" x 26" (way too narrow!)
Located about 3/8"-1/2" from the rear edge of the hood.
So, obviously this one is WAY off.
Thought these measurements were not correct, so I went out into the blizzard and to the garage where my aluminum nose 63 Dodge is at and did a few measurements. Here they are---and these are from an OEM Aluminum scoop---35"long---28" wide at the front---2 1/4 high in front---2 3/4 from the back edge of the hood to the center of the rear of the scoop. OEM scoops cost alot of bucks but I sell fiberglass replicas everyday for $230 plus $35 for shipping. I am Sled City Fiberglass, located in Grove City, Ohio.
Hmm, thought it seemed short too. Joey Cole that does the reproduction one's gave me those dimensions...
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 03/30/11 10:27 PM
Pic of the grille dyed and installed:
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 03/30/11 10:29 PM
'nother pic:
Posted By: THE GLASS MAN
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 03/30/11 10:40 PM
Quote:
'nother pic:
I like this car in hot rod black with the red interior.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 03/31/11 01:22 AM
Did a few things that can't be seen. Got the driveshaft shortened, balanced and new u-joints installed.
Installed the transmission dipstick (Enos!, kew, kew)
Installed the battery cables.
Installed rear bumper and polished aluminum pan under license tag.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 03/31/11 02:22 AM
Kick panel re-dyed.
Hard to see in pics but the grain is perfect with almost zero scratches or scuffs. Original had a big tear.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 03/31/11 02:24 AM
Both kick panels:
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 03/31/11 02:26 AM
Door panel:
Original re-dyed with chrome looking strip taken off another panel and put on this one. Door handles are all perfect originals. Four good arm rests were chosen, thoroughly clean and de-greased, and re-dyed as well.
Posted By: Golden-Arm
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 04/01/11 04:30 AM
looking pretty sweet. i'm loving this thread.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 04/01/11 11:56 PM
Rear bumper:
Original was rusted through and tore up. Traded an old 318 Streetmaster intake for this one.
It's not perfect but it's a good, straight core to have rechromed when the body is out for paint.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 04/13/11 03:19 AM
I copied the dried up and crusty flaps that cover the control arm access holes in the inner fenders:
Slit is where the brake line goes through.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 04/13/11 03:23 AM
Marker light and housing in front valance. Lens isn't the greatest and was pieced back together but it'll do for now. Still need to get new fine thread phillips head screws to hold the lens in.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 04/13/11 03:27 AM
Valance was pretty banged up on this side with the flat portions that bolt up all wrinkled. Took some time to hammer and dolly and it still needs work!
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 04/13/11 03:42 AM
More of valance.
I've spent more time and effort in getting this to look decent than any other part of the car! It's amazing what curbs and parking blocks do to sheetmetal!
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 05/18/11 08:26 PM
Put the radiator in and used these nifty Gates Powergrip hose clamps that are heat shrink to fit!
I'm tired of scraping my knuckles on the old worm-gear or corbin style clamps!
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 05/18/11 08:28 PM
Thermostat side:
Posted By: DusterKrazy
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 05/20/11 03:20 AM
Quote:
Put the radiator in and used these nifty Gates Powergrip hose clamps that are heat shrink to fit!
I'm tired of scraping my knuckles on the old worm-gear or corbin style clamps!
It is looking good. As far as those corbin clamps go, I cannot stand them
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 05/29/11 12:46 AM
Into the great outdoors.
Some of the first overall shots of the car in quite a while since I let it out of the cage today.
I'm probably going to put some lowering blocks on the rear since the SS spring have it sitting WAY high!
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 05/29/11 12:49 AM
Down da side.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 05/29/11 12:53 AM
Need to get the 15x8 steelies and some tires put on the back.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 05/29/11 12:57 AM
udder side.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 05/29/11 01:01 AM
Full Frontal.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 05/29/11 05:00 AM
I think the stance looks really good the way it is.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 05/29/11 05:15 AM
I don't like a big rake on cars either. Put your other rear tires on and put the car on a level surface and then show us. Pics with the car sitting on a sloped drive way is deceiving. The car is looking great though.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 08/02/11 08:05 PM
Not accomplishing much because of the heat! Supposed to be 113* here today!
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 08/02/11 08:08 PM
*smirk*
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 08/02/11 08:55 PM
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 10/17/11 02:01 AM
It LIVES!
Fired it for the first time and it sounds awesome!
Instant throttle response and open headers sound bitchin'!
Posted By: Neil
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 10/17/11 02:47 AM
Posted By: 383man
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 10/31/11 04:31 AM
That is looking great !
You have really put alot of hard work into it and I am sure it will be worth it when we see it done. And you have the right valve cover stickers on it.
Ron
Posted By: d4rt
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 10/31/11 07:46 AM
It's been a long time since I posted on here! Car is looking good!
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 11/01/11 02:32 AM
Thanks guys!
This summer has been really rough as I was employed off and on and really didn't want to spend money until I saw how the job situation shook out.
The car was so close I could taste it!
I did get the transmission cooler done, lubed up my rearend
and and cleaned up some more underhood.
At least it's running before winter and I can work on small stuff to get it on the road by spring.
I realized the other day about the only thing left of the car I originally bought was the basic body shell, dash trunk lid and passenger door!
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 02/18/12 02:29 AM
Crossmember shot for someone to reference.
Posted By: Red63440
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 02/18/12 08:13 PM
Looks really great and I have been following your build fairly closely. What did you use to re-dye your kick panels and other interior parts?
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 02/19/12 03:47 AM
Duplicolor vinyl and fabric.
I also used their adhesion promoter.
I start out by thoroughly cleaning the parts with wax and grease remover and then liberally apply the adhesion promotor.
I tried really hard to scratch some off the back of the kick panels and couldn't do it! I was really impressed with how well the stuff works.
Posted By: Red63440
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 02/19/12 04:08 AM
Thank you for the info....
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 04/30/12 03:52 AM
I haven't had too much time to work on the car here of late but did finally get the Wilwood calipers, braided lines and some other small brake details attended to today. I had to shave the calipers some to clear the 14" front wheels but other than that, bled the system and all was good!
I still need small things like a shifter and front and rear glass installed, carpet and headliner but it's getting there.
Here is a pic after the headlights and electrical were sorted:
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 05/13/12 12:12 AM
Drove it around the block today for the first time!
I was grinning ear to ear!
Way too much fun.
Posted By: ryangtogtx
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 03/05/13 02:56 AM
Anymore updates? Love the car.
Posted By: moparpollack
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 03/05/13 04:17 AM
He's on a long vacation.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 12/14/13 06:18 AM
Not much new.
Bought carpet, installed the shifter, new glass for the front.
Everything is ready to go, just need warm weather to install headliner and then the glass can go in.
This summer it will be released from the cage!
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 10/17/14 05:35 AM
Finally got back on "Atrocity".
Put in headliner and started carpet install today.
New accelerator pedal and pads too.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 10/17/14 05:39 AM
Sill plates looked really nasty so I bumped out the dents, wet sanded and polished.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 10/17/14 05:42 AM
It's the little things like a new dimmer switch and getting it through the carpet without mangling it! LOL
Final trim tomorrow and weatherstrip and seats will get installed.
Oh yeah, got some Mickey Thompson 275/60/15's mounted on the 15x8 steelies and installed. Will get pics tomorrow of that.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 10/17/14 08:00 PM
Ugh! Shifter fought me all morning. Carpet throws all your pre-fit tolerances out the window.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 10/17/14 08:37 PM
Door handles and locks installed. Repos look good but button doesn't fit the handle as tight as originals.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 10/18/14 12:18 AM
Polished the paint off of an old MP plate and threw it on the front.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 10/20/14 04:04 AM
Gonna see what some 15x4 a-100 wheels look like on the front of the car with dog dishes all around and 15x8's on the back.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 10/20/14 04:07 AM
Angle that shows how narrow they really are!
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 10/20/14 09:09 PM
Cleaned it up some and cranked up the front torsion bars a few rounds. I had rebuilt the front suspension but neglected the strut rod bushings so I put them in a few months ago and had to reset the ride height. Here is a couple of pics with the new 275's on the back.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 10/20/14 09:11 PM
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 10/20/14 09:20 PM
They definitely add some character to the car!
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 10/28/14 06:20 PM
Slipped on the skinnies. Needs taller tires up front but definitely a different look.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 10/28/14 06:22 PM
I like "in progress" pics...
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 10/28/14 06:26 PM
The speedo only goes to 120 mph. Gonna need to setup the phone somewhere on the dash so I can see GPS speed.
Posted By: 72N96RR
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 11/26/14 05:16 AM
Quote:
Why does it look so familiar....nice car bro
Posted By: 72N96RR
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 11/26/14 05:31 AM
This months MCG magazine has AMD repopping that front valance now if its that bad...
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 11/27/14 03:33 PM
Quote:
This months MCG magazine has AMD repopping that front valance now if its that bad...d
Yeah, saw that!
I took. My time with the hammer and dolly and it turned out pretty nice.
I'll probably spring for the repo tailights and surrounds in the next month, though as mine look decent but aren't the quality of the rest of the car.
Posted By: 72N96RR
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 11/27/14 07:11 PM
Quote:
Quote:
This months MCG magazine has AMD repopping that front valance now if its that bad...d
Yeah, saw that!
I took. My time with the hammer and dolly and it turned out pretty nice.
I'll probably spring for the repo tailights and surrounds in the next month, though as mine look decent but aren't the quality of the rest of the car.
I need the lenses and surrounds too.... we should try to score a package deal on two sets !!!!
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 12/23/14 05:00 AM
Car went to a neighbor's house that is an amazing fabricator. He's putting in subframe connectors and installing exhaust along with a few small metal fab items.
Found some loose change in the couch so we'll be assembling a 512" shortblock topped off with some Indy EZ's.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 12/25/14 06:49 PM
Got the Holley Street Dominator for Christmas. The Demon is a 850 that has been in my garage for a few years. I had actually forgot it was out there!
Will paint the intake to match engine and install when it gets back.
Should wake up the low compression pig a little...
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 12/25/14 07:00 PM
Daddy like!
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 12/28/14 12:22 AM
Dropped by to check on progress this afternoon.
Subframe connectors are installed! Look awesome.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 01/07/15 03:36 AM
Received my repo taillights and bezels today! Gotta get the car back so I can install but initial impressions are pretty good!
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 01/11/15 03:33 AM
New AMD tinted front glass and original rear glass installed! Glass guy said it practically fell in it fit so well. Neighbor said he timed him and it took him less than 15 minutes for both!
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 01/11/15 03:34 AM
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 01/11/15 07:59 PM
Outside!
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 01/11/15 08:03 PM
Posted By: Golden-Arm
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 01/12/15 05:10 AM
looking pretty sweet.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 01/18/15 03:03 AM
My glass guy that did the install was really impressed with the thickness and fit of the AMD reproduction windshield.
Getting ready to paint and install the intake and carb. tomorrow.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 01/19/15 01:38 AM
Installed the Holley Street Dominator and put a lighter spring in the secondary of the 750 3310. The throttle extension lever from the Holley didn't fit the Demon like I thought it would.
Seat O the pants meter says it picked up some.
Wife went for a ride and about shat herself...
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 01/20/15 04:30 AM
Dark outside but got the repo taillights installed!
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 01/23/15 01:41 AM
Installed the trim around the rear window.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 01/25/15 10:23 PM
Another taillight shot. The black rubber edging came Friday so I need to get it put on.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 01/25/15 10:27 PM
Now I gotta find some place to rechrome the rear bumper...
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 01/25/15 10:45 PM
Thought this was a cool pic!
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 02/08/15 12:27 AM
Finally got the fuel lines,fittings and throttle lever for the Demon. Neighbor Dave fixed me up! Runs very nice with the new Double Pumper! Found a drop base for the aircleaner too as everything moved upwards into the hood. Pretty sure the extra stock flat hood that I have (with bracing removed like factory maxies) will clear now. Gonna take it and have it stripped in the next week or two so I can get rid of the silly looking scoop.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 02/15/15 02:38 AM
My wife says: "You just got it together, why are you going to tear it apart again?!"
Women. They just don't unnastand!
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 03/11/15 06:38 PM
Pulled the top end off the motor and got the Stealth's painted. One bay in my garage looks like the parts box for a model car!
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 03/11/15 06:47 PM
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Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 03/15/15 03:02 PM
Motor going back together.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 03/16/15 02:01 AM
Back together and running. Easiest swap ever! WHOOOO!
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 04/13/15 03:19 AM
Got the car officially tagged, titled and insured this past week.
Drove it 150+ miles and had a ball.
It runs great, smooth as silk coming down from a few 1/4 mile blasts and never had a single issue!
Speedview app had me at 114 mph for my "high score" LOL!
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 04/15/15 03:59 AM
It's the little things in life...
Thanks to Bill for getting me a pic of an original to show where they were when new.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 05/06/15 11:48 PM
3,287lbs. with 1/2 tank of gas.
I was pretty happy with that number..
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 05/27/15 05:45 AM
Well, crap!
Stock rod bolts suck.
Fortunately I'd been gathering parts (block and rockers recently) to do a stroker shortblock. This just speeds up the process...
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 06/08/15 03:36 AM
Pulling out the shortblock that went "KABOOM".
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 06/08/15 03:39 AM
Trying to keep it organized.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 06/23/15 12:41 AM
Had the heads pressure checked and the two valves replaced in the one head. Machinist said I was really lucky as the one bent valve had it's head come off in his hand as he was taking it out!
He took a .010 cut off of both to get them flat again.
Top end is ready so I need to get the shortblock built..
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 09/02/15 05:28 PM
I ordered a Molnar 4.25" stroke crank and 7.1" long rods along with Mahle pistons Friday. Flexplate, oil pan and balancer arrived today.
I'm anxious to get everything to my machinist!
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 09/27/15 04:30 PM
I had some problems with getting an incorrect crank and they quickly remedied that but it slowed things down some.
The block has been cleaned, main studs installed, align honed and the decks evened up. He was putting it on the boring machine when I stopped by to swap cranks last week.
The heads went to Modern Cylinder Head for CNC porting on Friday.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 10/10/15 11:56 AM
A little slow but making some progress. So far everything is fitting together nicely with no surprises. The combination balanced really nicely with minimal weight coming off the crank. The 4.25 stroke clears the oil pump pickup and bottoms of the bores with no block mods.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 10/27/15 04:55 AM
Making a little progress. Need to measure for pushrods and lash the valves and I'll button it up.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 11/11/15 09:07 AM
Dropped in the engine today.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 11/15/15 02:50 AM
Wow! Fired for the first time today and it was definitely a different sounding motor! Looks exactly the same but the extra 3 points of compression, 65" and ported heads make a sound all their own!
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 11/18/15 08:02 PM
Drove it around the neighborhood and town yesterday. So much fun!
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 12/06/15 05:23 PM
Unfortunately, a week after the above picture, the engine started losing power. I ripped the valley tray off only to be greeted with some wiped cam lobes and ground up lifters.
After pulling the engine apart, I was relieved to find the crank was fine and all the bearings were perfect. Whew!
The block has been thoroughly cleaned and cylinders rehoned. I reinstalled the crank with new bearings last night.
I made the decision to go with a hydraulic roller cam after reading about others having the same problem with the current crop of flat tappet cams. Parts started to arrive last week and I was really impressed with the way Howards package the roller lifters.
Hope your engine works well with no problems anymore. I know how much work it all is. Nice job.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 01/22/16 11:17 PM
Thoroughly cleaned out the engine and started from the bare block. It did give me a chance to inspect the internals and all the bearings looked great despite the cam and lifter material going through it.
New bearings, new cam and lifters, new distributor drive gear and fuel pump pushrod. I also put in some cometic head gaskets to drop the CR about half a point down to 10.5:1. It's 98% there but just need to button up a few things. No pics to post because it looks exactly the same externally. I should be able to fire it this weekend since it's supposed to warm up some.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 01/25/16 11:03 PM
WHOOOOO!
It is back together and is a MONSTER!
I went with a Howards .545 lift 287/293 duration hydraulic roller cam.
It idles at 850 rpm and pulls like a train in 3rd gear!
Absolutely perfect for a pump gas street car with 3.55 gears and a 2800 stall convertor.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 02/03/16 09:30 PM
I went over to a friend's house that has a Go-Pro...
https://youtu.be/FcKEEDBRwno
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 02/09/16 04:51 AM
I plan on some better and bigger tires for the rear so upgrading to Dana 60. Cut the full floater ends off today and started cleaning it up...
Posted By: 417_Stroker
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 02/09/16 11:01 PM
What up Mark!? And yes this car is a ton of fun to ride in!
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 02/09/16 11:50 PM
What up Mark!? And yes this car is a ton of fun to ride in!
All is fun and games until you lose a Go-Pro!
Posted By: 417_Stroker
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 02/09/16 11:53 PM
We got lucky! That's all I can say. It probably would have fell off in the 3rd gear pull going 100+ I'm sure
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 02/22/16 06:06 AM
I've had problems with getting ANY traction with the street radials so I bought some Mickey Thompson ET Street Radial Pro's last week. I still can't get it to hook in 1st on the street but anything over 30 mph I can usually stick it and it slams you in the butt and goes!
Much better at putting the power to the ground overall and I'm sure on a well prepped track it will hook.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 02/24/16 01:53 AM
Installed a driveshaft safety hoop and a few interior bits.
I played with the Speedview App today and, even with limited traction in 1st gear and cold pavement, it managed a 12.0 e.t.
I'm sure once the track opens I can shave quite a bit off that..
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 03/13/16 03:40 AM
I took it to the track today for our first test and tune.
It ran 11.75 @ 117 bouncing off the Rev limiter in 1st and 2nd.
Left off idle for this pass but tried a little higher launch. It blew the tires off and slowed to a 12.04. Tire pressure was as I drove it to the track at 20 psi. Will drop that next time to 14.
Pump gas, through the mufflers on street tires!
Pretty happy for 2800 stall and 3.55 street gears!
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 03/13/16 05:20 PM
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 04/03/16 05:29 PM
I'm prepping it for Mo-Kan this weekend.
I took out the Monroe front shocks and replaced them with some Competition Engineering shocks set at 90/10. I also removed the upper control arm bumpers to try and get more movement to out of the front at launch. I'm determined to get a better 60ft vs. The 1.78 last time!
I also installed the Moroso underdrive lower pulley.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 04/10/16 05:30 PM
I played with it Friday night and couldn't get it to hook very well. Saturday, we woke up to cold weather (37°). We all piled in the car and drove it to breakfast a few miles down the road in Asbury. It fired right up and stayed running with no fuss!
Later in the day it warmed up and I ran the best to date: 11.30 @ 119 mph!
1.60 60 ft.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 04/14/16 05:31 PM
Timeslip from this weekend:
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 04/14/16 05:37 PM
It's the little things...
I managed to get a pair of NOS outside door locks and new ignition tumbler from a Moparts member. New keys and everything works perfectly!
A fellow club member scored me the plastic panel that goes under the steering wheel. Mine was broken and had holes for switches.
Two minor upgrades but I keep picking away at the small stuff!
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 04/25/16 12:44 AM
Again, picking away at small things. I found a 4 door parts car with a better back glass (mine has some scratches and pitting from years ago) and the trim screws and clips I needed for the inner window trim.
The car has been bone dry underneath since the rebuild but had a small puddle of Brad Penn under the engine last night. I'm really anal about sealing the motor up when I'm assembling, so I was really ticked!
It turns out it was the O-ring on the back of the oil pump pressure spring plug. 5 minute fix!
I'm anxious to get it back to the track but the lovely Kansas wind and rain have been keeping me away!
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 05/08/16 08:15 AM
New best mph tonight. 11.38 @ 121.29
Track just wasn't there with all the street cars on street tires.
Very happy with the gains I keep making, though!
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 06/05/16 09:59 AM
11.28 @ 120 new best e.t. tonight!
Spanked a Procharged late model Corvette in the final grudge night race.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 07/26/16 01:06 AM
I broke a Spicer u-joint on the last pass of the night about a week ago at the track. The prep was really good and I was trying to leave up against the convertor. Gonna pull the transmission, check the sprag and replace the 8 3/4 with the Dana 60 I mentioned a few months ago. The cone sure-grip lasted all of 2,000 miles and was starting to give up the ghost so it was time.
I never planned on making this much power or I never would have built and 8 3/4. The new Dana will have a spool.
The best thing was this was the first time I had trailered the car instead of driving it so it made for less of a hassle.
Posted By: 70B5Cuda
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 07/26/16 03:31 PM
I broke a Spicer u-joint on the last pass of the night about a week ago at the track. The prep was really good and I was trying to leave up against the convertor. Gonna pull the transmission, check the sprag and replace the 8 3/4 with the Dana 60 I mentioned a few months ago. The cone sure-grip lasted all of 2,000 miles and was starting to give up the ghost so it was time.
I never planned on making this much power or I never would have built and 8 3/4. The new Dana will have a spool.
The best thing was this was the first time I had trailered the car instead of driving it so it made for less of a hassle.
Good thing you just bought that new trailer! Mmmmmm.....Dana 60....
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 07/27/16 09:39 PM
I broke a Spicer u-joint on the last pass of the night about a week ago at the track. The prep was really good and I was trying to leave up against the convertor. Gonna pull the transmission, check the sprag and replace the 8 3/4 with the Dana 60 I mentioned a few months ago. The cone sure-grip lasted all of 2,000 miles and was starting to give up the ghost so it was time.
I never planned on making this much power or I never would have built and 8 3/4. The new Dana will have a spool.
The best thing was this was the first time I had trailered the car instead of driving it so it made for less of a hassle.
Good thing you just bought that new trailer! Mmmmmm.....Dana 60....
The parts from Cass (Dr. Diff) arrived today! This should fix the sure-grip issues!
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 07/27/16 09:59 PM
Axles with screw in studs! Whooo!
Try and break THIS Mr. 505" monster!
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 07/27/16 10:06 PM
I broke a Spicer u-joint on the last pass of the night about a week ago at the track. The prep was really good and I was trying to leave up against the convertor. Gonna pull the transmission, check the sprag and replace the 8 3/4 with the Dana 60 I mentioned a few months ago. The cone sure-grip lasted all of 2,000 miles and was starting to give up the ghost so it was time.
I never planned on making this much power or I never would have built and 8 3/4. The new Dana will have a spool.
The best thing was this was the first time I had trailered the car instead of driving it so it made for less of a hassle.
Good thing you just bought that new trailer! Mmmmmm.....Dana 60....
farmboy was making fun of me calling it a trailer queen.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 07/30/16 06:17 PM
POS 8 3/4 removed and Dana is at the race shop getting ends installed and pinion setup.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 08/07/16 05:50 AM
Race shop cut off floating ends, installed 8 3/4 ends, narrowed to stock '69 B-body housing width and setup my 3.54 ring and pinion. $400 with tax for that, $295 for axles, $125 for spool, the ends were free as we're the perches. I have $60 in the housing that came with extra 4.10 gears and I'm reusing the old brakes off the 8 3/4 so I'm into this thing dirt cheap!
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 08/07/16 06:16 PM
Made a little more progress. I'm pretty much as far as I can go mocking together before welding spring perches. Need to move axle to the left slightly..
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 08/13/16 07:55 PM
My neighbor helped me set the pinion angle and welded on the spring perches. I painted it last night.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 08/13/16 08:00 PM
We made new brake lines to fit. Really happy with the way they turned out.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 08/14/16 08:52 PM
All installed and ready to go. I still need to bleed the brakes.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 08/15/16 05:25 AM
Pulled apart the transmission. The sprag looks fine. All I'm out is time and cost of gaskets and filter for peace of mind!
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 08/16/16 12:40 AM
I replaced a few steels that were blued, put in a bronze thrust washer and cleaned up some stuff. Back together and got the driveshaft back from the shop, so it's ready to go back in! I plan on racing this weekend so the thrash is on!
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 08/18/16 04:59 AM
I made a few shakedown passes on the street tonight and all is well.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 08/21/16 05:04 AM
Raced the HAMB Drags this weekend. I ran 11.42, 11.41, 11.41 and 11.41 all at ~118 mph. The car is deadly consistent and I even tried to remove the air filter to see if it made a difference. The result? 11.41.
It ran really good with no issues despite having it scattered all over the shop floor and a new rearend going in it.
The air was really humid with a light headwind.
It did run a new best 60 ft. of 1.59.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 09/01/16 06:05 PM
I was browsing a few pics from our local track and came across this pic. It surprised me because I never knew it was pulling the left front wheel! This was taken the night I broke the rear u-joint. I did try one of Streetwize's ported Street Dominator intakes this past weekend. That and no other changes netted me an 11.32 @ 119 mph at 3500 DA! It picked up a tenth and a mph over last weekend just like Bobby said it would!
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 09/03/16 02:22 PM
11.19 @ 121mph last night!
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 09/25/16 02:34 AM
I got to knock another item off the bucket list!
I've wanted to race Heartland Park for years and attended national NHRA events there. The facility is amazing and we had lots of fun.
11.31 @ 119 mph best. Spot on for the weather!
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 10/01/16 10:06 PM
Won 1st place and $300 in the '64 and earlier nostalgia races today at my local track!
Posted By: minivan
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 10/01/16 10:44 PM
The cone sure-grip lasted all of 2,000 miles and was starting to give up the ghost so it was time.
Don't let JohnRR see that you were using a cone style...LOL
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 10/02/16 12:59 AM
The cone sure-grip lasted all of 2,000 miles and was starting to give up the ghost so it was time.
Don't let JohnRR see that you were using a cone style...LOL
We already talked about it. He warned me years ago and I didn't listen. LOL!
Posted By: 70B5Cuda
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 10/02/16 04:35 AM
The cone sure-grip lasted all of 2,000 miles and was starting to give up the ghost so it was time.
Don't let JohnRR see that you were using a cone style...LOL
We already talked about it. He warned me years ago and I didn't listen. LOL!
And now I own that diff and will limp it along! Haha
Nice job today Mark! You're the man!
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 10/04/16 06:16 PM
In the staging lanes at KID with the other index winners.
Lucrative weekend!
I won $300 on Saturday for being first in the '64 and earlier class on true street radials. I won $50 Sunday for winning the 11.50 index class and actually went another 2 rounds before going out. Car worked great, it was the bonehead driver that cut a horrible light and broke out.
New best 1.54 60 ft. to boot!
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 10/09/16 05:32 AM
Another wheels-up shot from this past weekend!
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 10/20/16 09:01 PM
Since narrowing and installing the truck Dana 60 (no pinion snubber), I've had problems with excessive spring wrap and the rear u-joint hitting the driveshaft tunnel. Hard to believe because of the separation that occurs, but it's pretty bad in 1st gear and about halfway through 2nd.
Anyway, I decided to do something like a Cal-Trac bar. Fortunately for me, a neighbor is really great at fabrication (neighbor Dave!) and we were able to use a Cal-Trac setup as a template while adding a few of our own unique touches.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 10/23/16 02:29 AM
A little more progress...
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 10/23/16 02:41 AM
Bolted into the rear suspension. Just measured for total lower bar length.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 10/23/16 07:35 PM
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 10/26/16 11:14 PM
Painted the bars and reinstalled. Looking forward to testing them out Saturday night!
A friend commented that it kinda killed the sleeper vibe, but I'm willing to make that sacrifice.
Besides, they are a bolt-on modification that can easily be reversed.
Posted By: hosehead
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 10/28/16 10:30 PM
Painted the bars and reinstalled. Looking forward to testing them out Saturday night!
A friend commented that it kinda killed the sleeper vibe, but I'm willing to make that sacrifice.
Besides, they are a bolt-on modification that can easily be reversed.
I think it looks great! May I ask about your wheels? Did you have a set widened? Just curious about how you are using steelies that wide with the larger dog dish caps. Great thread! Like I said, I'm stealing some ideas and am doing a similar build on my 65. Trying to go as fast as possible without needing a roll bar on street tires, full exhaust, etc.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 10/29/16 12:09 AM
Painted the bars and reinstalled. Looking forward to testing them out Saturday night!
A friend commented that it kinda killed the sleeper vibe, but I'm willing to make that sacrifice.
Besides, they are a bolt-on modification that can easily be reversed.
I think it looks great! May I ask about your wheels? Did you have a set widened? Just curious about how you are using steelies that wide with the larger dog dish caps. Great thread! Like I said, I'm stealing some ideas and am doing a similar build on my 65. Trying to go as fast as possible without needing a roll bar on street tires, full exhaust, etc.
The fronts are A100 15x4's rear are 15x8 Wheel Vintiques. The rim and openings are identical on both wheels. I simply epoxied a smaller Chrysler dog dish cap inside two larger, earlier caps for the rear! I used PC-7 epoxy.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 10/31/16 05:51 AM
I raced at KID this weekend to test out the Cal-Trac style rear suspension. The first run it porpoised BADLY! Hooked, unloaded, hooked and unloaded in rapid succession.
I had read about this happening with others that had tried these with the Mopar SS springs in A body Darts so I wasn't surprised. It was VIOLENT though and hurt my neck! LOL!
It seems the cure for this is double adjustable rear shocks and slowing (firming up) the extension. Kinda spendy for double adjustables and I may wait until spring to bite the bullet. We temporarily fixed the issue by clamping the rear spring segments together with a pair of extra clamps I made.
Overall, though, the car runs like clockwork. Expected 11.30's due to the unseasonably warm heat and DA (3500) and that's right where it ran. 11.30 best at 120mph with 1.63 60 ft. times.
The best part was I had to use the 330 as my daily driver for 3 days last week while the Cummins had its A/C fixed. It never missed a beat!
We WILL figure it out!
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 11/13/16 03:24 AM
Well, the racing season is over. I'm pretty happy with the results from this engine. It has well over 3,000 miles on it this Summer and LOTS of dragstrip passes. Really the only things I've done is adjust the valves once and swap the intake. It stays bone dry and gets decent mileage to boot!
I pared it down from a brand new build 11.76 @ 117mph beginning of the season to 11.19 @ 121 mph best leaving some 60 ft. on the table and it still gets driven all over! People comment at the track that they see it in traffic all the time and get a kick out of it being driven, LOL! I constantly have people come up to me and ask what it is because they've never seen one and the badging isn't on the car yet. Usually it's in the staging lanes just before I turn into the burnout box!
The best part has been seeing the gleam in the old timers eyes that used to own/run cars like this. There is always a crowd around it and guys asking questions at the nostalgia events we run.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 02/20/17 12:41 AM
I put this off as long as I could because I wanted the car to look as "stock" as possible and it is, after all, a street car.
I made an appointment with Holzman race cars a few months ago to do a 6 pt. rollbar. They finished on Friday and I was able to snap a few pics Saturday. I pick it up on Monday and I'm really happy with the work as they did all the little things I asked for and then some!
They ran the bars through the rear package tray so I can keep the back seat, angled the main hoop to match the B pillar perfectly and routed the side bars around the arm rests and door panels.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 02/20/17 12:44 AM
Another view:
Struggling with paint selection. Black or the same color red as the dash and steering wheel..
I look forward to installing cam lock RJS 5 pt. belts as all I had were lap belts in this thing!
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 02/20/17 12:53 AM
Not looking forward to masking for paint...
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 03/17/17 05:27 PM
I had a couple of minutes to myself this morning so I managed to get the drivers door bar painted.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 03/18/17 01:11 AM
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Posted By: hosehead
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 03/18/17 02:08 AM
Looks great!
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 03/21/17 12:55 AM
More paint today..
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 04/01/17 01:25 AM
Trimming the carpet to fit around the roll bar.
Posted By: 70B5Cuda
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 04/05/17 03:05 PM
Looks good Mark!
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 04/05/17 03:27 PM
I finally got most of the interior reinstalled! Looking forward to racing this weekend.
Posted By: dagtx
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 04/08/17 02:25 PM
Hey mark, what color paint did you use in your interior , I am building a 62 dart black with red interior yours looks great. THANKS , you can email janetm273@gmail.com DOUG .
Posted By: killermopar
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 04/08/17 10:36 PM
That really does look great.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 04/09/17 05:50 AM
Hey mark, what color paint did you use in your interior , I am building a 62 dart black with red interior yours looks great. THANKS , you can email janetm273@gmail.com DOUG .
Rustoleum Sunrise Red
Didn't care about originality. LOL
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 04/09/17 05:58 AM
I raced the Superstock class at Mo-Kan's Hot Rod Reunion. I made it to the quarter finals and red lit.
11.24 @ 121 best even after adding the weight of the rollbar!
Posted By: MuuMuu101
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 04/09/17 07:25 AM
11.24 @ 121 best even after adding the weight of the rollbar!
Extra weight = Extra traction
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 04/09/17 04:17 PM
11.24 @ 121 best even after adding the weight of the rollbar!
Extra weight = Extra traction
Not in this case. 60ft's were horrible and in the 1.62 to 1.64 range. It has done a best of 1.54.
It desperately needs some mono or split mono leaf springs and adjustable shocks!
I played around with a few other things...
Posted By: UCUDANT
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 04/09/17 05:04 PM
Nice work, I like your car.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 04/13/17 02:54 AM
Nice work, I like your car.
Thanks! It is definitely a work in progress. LOL!
I weighed it Monday and it came in at 3,600 lbs. with me in it. The 6 pt. rollbar added 80 lbs. I weighed 212 lbs. that day so 3,388 lbs. is what the car weighs now.
I'm installing Cal-trac split mono leafsprings and they are 28 lbs. per side vs. 42 lbs. for the SS spings. (I'm assuming passenger side weighs slightly more with 1 more leaf.) That should net me a 28 lbs. weight loss right there!
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 04/14/17 12:37 AM
Caltrac split mono leaf springs installed!
Posted By: hosehead
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 04/14/17 01:21 AM
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 04/14/17 03:03 AM
The passenger side SS spring was 2.5 lbs. heavier at 44.5 lbs.
Side shot:
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 04/14/17 07:19 PM
I finished everything off this morning and took it for a drive. Seems a little firmer, sits a little higher. Unfortunately they are doing no-prep this weekend at my home track so I may have to wait a couple of weeks for results.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 04/20/17 11:47 PM
I was playing hard with it on K-96 here in Wichita and broke a bolt on the rear u-joint strap AGAIN! I planned on upgrading the yoke the last time it happened but was under a time crunch for the HAMB and had already paid my entry fee. Out of sight and out of mind so hadn't really given upgrading a thought until it went BANG!
I splurged and bought the Moser 1350 joint and u-bolts instead of straps and bolts this time. Hopefully this fixes the problem!
Posted By: killermopar
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 04/21/17 06:01 PM
One less thing to upgrade...
I really like your build, and Ive always liked the drive it while you build it projects.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 04/22/17 07:11 AM
One less thing to upgrade...
I really like your build, and Ive always liked the drive it while you build it projects.
Thanks,
I'm torn because I really like perfect paint and a nicely detailed car. The problem is it would be another 5 years to get it to that point and I want to have fun NOW! ...and I AM!
The great thing about this car is I can park it anywhere, walk away from it and not worry about scratches or it getting stolen. Who the hell would want an ugly '63 Dodge?!
It is weird when I get compliments because I see all of its flaws, what I would like to improve and think people are crazy for liking it in its current form. I do love the dependability and driveability of this drivetrain and combination!
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 05/05/17 04:32 AM
I took an extra good rear bumper core with me to the Indy swap and gave it to the guys at AMS NOS. Called them on Monday to pay and it arrived today (Thursday)! VERY NICE QUALITY! Very reasonably priced too at $395!
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 05/05/17 04:35 AM
Installed!
Now the front one needs done. Thought it was good, but...
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 06/07/17 07:18 PM
I found a really nice, uncut hood a few years ago. I had it media blasted, cut the underhood bracing to mimic a Max Wedge steel hood car and neighbor Dave shot it for me with DP90 epoxy since he was in between priming panels for his projects. It turned out much better than expected! I have another, larger factory style scoop for the other one and plan on refinishing it as well.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 06/08/17 04:47 AM
Underside..
I would like to eventually run Dragweek with this car so an open hood scoop was questionable for that.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 06/08/17 06:37 PM
Hoodscoop delete mod..
Posted By: Iowan
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 06/08/17 08:13 PM
I like the flat hood!, and car looks great.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 06/12/17 05:27 AM
I like the flat hood!, and car looks great.
Thanks!
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 06/24/17 02:50 PM
I went to get gas last night a few miles away and was running it through the gears coming back when it went "bang" at the top of third gear. I thought it was the driveshaft at first, but smelled burning trans. fluid and saw a cloud of white smoke behind me. I pulled over and looked under and found the tailshaft housing had broken in half! I did have 4 adults in it all Wednesday night and an extra 120 lbs. in the trunk so I wonder if the driveshaft might have bottomed at some point and weakened the housing?
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 06/24/17 08:25 PM
I found the culprit. Some way the inner clip on a u-joint cap came off and that cap exited the front yoke. Caused a massive imbalace and slop to where it killed the tailshaft housing. I reached up and grabbed the output shaft to spin it after pulling the housing off and it is visibly bent! Gotta pull the whole thing and tear it down to replace the output shaft!
Posted By: killermopar
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 06/25/17 04:47 AM
Shoot man. That sucks. But at least it's just the trans. Could've been worse.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 06/25/17 06:55 AM
Shoot man. That sucks. But at least it's just the trans. Could've been worse.
Not expensive to fix, just time consuming.
Posted By: killermopar
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 06/25/17 02:24 PM
Yeah. It stinks fixing stuff when you should be playing. You seem to be right on it, that will be fixed in no time.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 06/27/17 04:26 AM
I checked all the internals and replaced output shaft and tailshaft housing. Clutches and steels looked good as well. It's ready to go back in. May try a different converter...
Posted By: killermopar
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 06/27/17 06:58 PM
Gotta love the simplicity of the Mopar 727.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 06/29/17 10:55 PM
Member farmboy is letting me try out a smaller converter. Not sure if it will improve anything, but I threw it in to find out.
95% back together..
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 06/30/17 08:43 PM
Back together and definitely feels different. Taking it to the track tonight to see if it improves or not..
Posted By: killermopar
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 06/30/17 11:10 PM
Let us know. Good luck!!!
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 07/02/17 05:12 AM
Let us know. Good luck!!!
Slowed down considerably. Just too much stall.
11.65 @ 114 was the best of the night.
It was like driving a manual with the clutch pushed in part way.
Oh well, it was worth trying...
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 10/04/17 01:26 AM
Been a few months since posting. In that time killed a couple of rod bearings in the engine (my fault), tore apart and totally rebuilt/refreshed the engine. Other than the rod bearing issue, the engine looked really nice inside! Putting it all back I had some converter bolt issues so pulled the trans. again and farmboy enlarged the flexplate bolt holes in the converter to the 7/16 thread units.
I also replaced the worn out ET Street Pros and borrowed a wheel/tire combo for the front to see if I like them.
Looking forward to racing some in the upcoming weeks.
Pic from today:
Posted By: killermopar
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 10/05/17 08:57 PM
It's been a rough year for you. Hopefully you can have some fun with it this fall
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 10/11/17 09:29 PM
1st of 3 fun nostalgia races under our belt.
We did the Wichita Nostalgia Race at KID and entered the '80 and older true street tire class. No drag radials allowed.
After some testing with a setup, we got a handle on it and was able to launch it pretty good! I dialed 12.00 (had to keep same dial all day!) but held quite a bit as the car was running 11.80's with this setup.
On one run I had to bomb the brakes. I Pushed the guy thinking he was going to break out and ran an 11.96 on 12.00 dial! I find out he red lit and I didn't see it but still pretty proud of the time even though I broke out. Didn't matter!
I got a best 1.72 60 ft. time and went rounds until the final. I'm not sure if the track prep went away or if someone put down some water or oil in my lane but using the same technique I'd used all day, the car spun HARD in the final.
I knew the guy that won and it is the second year we went to the tower to pick up checks together. $150 paid for my weekend and we had a good time!
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 10/12/17 08:23 PM
3,428 lbs. today with full tank of fuel.
Posted By: killermopar
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 10/13/17 03:21 AM
Awesome. Can't beat a free weekend of fun
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 11/07/17 11:10 PM
The racing year is over and after lots of breakage (killed the front yoke and u-joint at the Hot Rod Reunion a few weeks ago) I hope I have it under control.
A new Strange driveshaft with Spicer 1350 joints on each end arrived today. I borrowed a pair of Calvert adjustable rear shocks but the track just cancelled next weekend.
The good parts of the season were it is super consistent and goes rounds against full on race cars. Usually faster too! I didn't get my 10 second e.t. but got some much needed upgrades done and we will come out swinging next year!
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 11/20/17 01:44 AM
A few upgrades coming...
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 12/12/17 06:16 AM
I'm adding a little shot of the juice with the hopes of consistently getting the car into the 10's. I bought the basic Nitrous Express kit because I wanted to do my own mounting of solenoids, wiring and plumbing. It will be semi hidden but if you know what you are looking at...
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 12/12/17 06:17 AM
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Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 12/12/17 06:18 AM
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Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 12/12/17 06:23 AM
We ran the nitrous line under the intake and came up to the plate on the front. Covered it with black wiring loom. It is all that is visible from up front.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 12/12/17 06:26 AM
I used the Leash Electronics single stage board to wire. Very simple and easy to use!
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 12/12/17 06:31 AM
I hid the arming switch in the ashtray where the old cigarette lighter used to be. The trigger is the button on the Hurst shifter.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 12/12/17 06:42 AM
I bought a JAZ Jr. dragster fuel tank that looks for all the world like an overflow tank for the radiator to use as my supplemental fuel source. I mounted it where the horns were on the core support. It has a small 5psi electric pump under it that will carry high octane fuel to the fuel solenoid. Again, not completely hidden but unless you know what you are looking at..
The great thing about all of this is I have used almost all existing holes to mount everything.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 01/15/18 02:23 AM
That's a slick installation. Is that a Street Dominator intake?
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 01/15/18 04:40 AM
That's a slick installation. Is that a Street Dominator intake?
Yes. Streetwize (Bobby) here on the board ported it. Picked up .1 and 1 mph with it compared to an out of the box manifold.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 01/15/18 04:44 AM
Cool. I was going to go with an M1 single plane on my stroker, but I talked to Cab Burge last night and he seems to think I should go with a Performer RPM.
Anyway. Your car is pretty badass. Not flashy but it sure moves. You and Ron have two of the coolest cars on here. I wonder if '63 has anything to do with it?
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 01/15/18 04:52 AM
Cool. I was going to go with an M1 single plane on my stroker, but I talked to Cab Burge last night and he seems to think I should go with a Performer RPM.
Anyway. Your car is pretty badass. Not flashy but it sure moves. You and Ron have two of the coolest cars on here. I wonder if '63 has anything to do with it?
Probably! LOL!
Thanks for the compliment and I'm a big fan of Ron's car too!
I really enjoy the dual purpose aspect of it. I would never own a dedicated race car but making a street car perform on the track is definitely a challenge.
I still have a small phenolic spacer under the nitrous plate and everything still fits (barely) under the stock hood.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 01/15/18 06:43 AM
I feel the same way. I don't(sadly) have the time to load a car up on a trailer and go to the track. I would rather drive it there and have fun and drive it home.
I don't think mine will be as fast as yours, it's heavier and a stick... But being able to drive it and race it is a must.
The performance of your car with a 3.54 gear is promising, though.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 01/15/18 09:04 PM
I feel the same way. I don't(sadly) have the time to load a car up on a trailer and go to the track. I would rather drive it there and have fun and drive it home.
I don't think mine will be as fast as yours, it's heavier and a stick... But being able to drive it and race it is a must.
The performance of your car with a 3.54 gear is promising, though.
The massive torque of the BB stroker doesn't need a deep gear. My rev limiter on the MSD is set at 6,400 rpm. The car wheelies leaving off idle with a 2800 stall converter.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 02/17/18 03:17 AM
Doing some changes to get the car to 60 ft. Regular Monroe shocks on the rear weren't getting the job done. I added some Calvert 9 way adjustables to control extension. It is hitting too fast and too violent causing it to bounce once at the starting line. Slowing extension should help. Neighbor Dave also fabbed some upper mounts to make the shock almost vertical. From the factory they are at a 45° angle. I will test both upper locations to see if there is any improvement in straight vertical. I will show more pictures later that document both shock locations. Here is the simple upper bracket:
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 03/26/18 01:54 AM
Was planning on shock testing by now but lots of issues with getting to the track so I finished off the nitrous system.
I did a test hit with a small hit (100HP jetting) in the plate on the street and WOW! Should have done this years ago!
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 03/31/18 05:20 AM
Cold and windy, tried one pass and spun hard to a 1.78 60 ft.
It did an 11.32 @ 125mph. Best mph ever just spraying in 2nd and 3rd gear.
We'll get a warmer day and get it figured out.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 04/22/18 12:55 AM
I've put about half a bottle of nitrous through it and used about half a gallon of 91 No Ethanol. I did up the jetting to 150hp shot. No issues so far.
It rained here all weekend so only street passes so far.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 05/13/18 05:39 PM
We raced a small nostalgia event called The Rumble in Bethany, Mo yesterday. It had an amazing turnout of cars and spectators for it being the first year! We ended up doing friendly grudge matches against a 427 Thunderbolt replica and I went 3-0 against him. We had a great time and met some of the best people there! I had never raced 1/8th mile before and traction was sketchy but it still ran 102mph.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 06/06/18 11:35 PM
To be clear, The Rumble was run n/a without cracking the bottle.
Posted By: cdp
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 06/07/18 06:11 PM
Looks like a nice event thats fairly close to me. I coworker races on that track, but I've never been. Do you go to MOKAN?
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 06/07/18 10:49 PM
Looks like a nice event thats fairly close to me. I coworker races on that track, but I've never been. Do you go to MOKAN?
Yep, try to get down there at least a couple of times a year. Probably HAMB drags and Fall Hot Rod Reunion.
I grew up 30 miles away so I kinda consider Mo-Kan my home track. Great people!
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 06/10/18 07:58 AM
New best of 10.69 @ 128 tonight!
So smooth and easy to drive all the way down the 1/4 mile!
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 06/21/18 08:51 PM
The good news is, it's run 10's at 128 mph a few times now in the heat and with a DA of over 4,000 ft.
The bad news is, I noticed a rattle on the return road Saturday night and finally found out what it was. The balancer came apart where the rubber is. The outer ring completely separated!
Posted By: Racer33
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 06/21/18 09:42 PM
What brand was that dampener?
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 06/22/18 08:13 PM
What brand was that dampener?
440Source is where I purchased.
Posted By: Racer33
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 06/22/18 08:59 PM
Thank you. I'm in the market for a new one as well. Love the car by the way
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 07/22/18 11:56 PM
New balancer in place and a new tranny pan gasket. I was having good luck with cork ones here lately until the last one decided to mark its territory!
I highly recommend the 518 reusable gasket as it has a steel core and rubber coating. Kinda pricy, though, at $41 at the local stealership!
Getting ready for the HAMB drags in Asbury, MO August 18th!
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 08/28/18 03:18 PM
We did the Swap Meet at Ozark Empire Fairgrounds on Friday and raced the HAMB on Saturday. If you get a chance to attend either one, I would highly suggest it! It was a warmer day with high humidity and a DA around 3800. Car still ran 11.00 @ 123mph best hitting a small shot after the lazy 60 ft. Looking forward to cooler temps.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 09/29/18 08:52 PM
Lots of Nostalgia racing coming up. We ran the Mid America Dragway re-opening weekend this past week. The car was spot-on as far as consistency. It ran a 7.45, two 7.46's and a 7.47 in the 1/8th mile, n/a. I went to the street tire final and red lit! If we can get the driver to get his head right...
The car 60ft.'s a touch slower but seems way more consistent with the Cal-Trac setup. 1.67 seems slow but it did it all day.
Posted By: bigdad
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 09/29/18 10:40 PM
cool car
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 09/30/18 12:07 AM
Thanks.
It's a lot of fun!
Posted By: bigdad
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 10/03/18 02:17 PM
mOKAN
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 10/03/18 09:23 PM
Yep. Ran 11.00 @ 123mph that day. Humidity and DA were horrible!
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 10/22/18 04:35 AM
New balancer in place and a new tranny pan gasket. I was having good luck with cork ones here lately until the last one decided to mark its territory!
I highly recommend the 518 reusable gasket as it has a steel core and rubber coating. Kinda pricy, though, at $41 at the local stealership!
Getting ready for the HAMB drags in Asbury, MO August 18th!
What balancer did you end up putting back on it?
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 10/23/18 10:53 PM
New balancer in place and a new tranny pan gasket. I was having good luck with cork ones here lately until the last one decided to mark its territory!
I highly recommend the 518 reusable gasket as it has a steel core and rubber coating. Kinda pricy, though, at $41 at the local stealership!
Getting ready for the HAMB drags in Asbury, MO August 18th!
What balancer did you end up putting back on it?
A stock original. It's not like it sees high rpm and that was a quick turnaround for me.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 11/08/18 01:53 PM
To update a little. Two different Nostalgia events kept getting rained out. One cancelled for this year altogether and the other was rescheduled on a date the second time where I was out of town.
Overall I was really happy with the car this season as it had another best low e.t. and mph and was super consistent. Minimal breakage made it better as well. It is really enjoyable just using it as a parts chaser for another project 2-3 times a week here lately.
The weather here turned from really humid and 90° to much colder and rainy seemingly overnight so we haven't been able to get anymore good passes.
I am pretty sure the car has low 10.50's/high 10.40's in it the way it is with good air and the current tuneup. It is a lofty goal, but next year I would like to see a 9.99 out of it. It should be a plug and jet change away, but we know how that goes...
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 12/02/18 12:03 AM
I added an MSD timing controller to pull out timing easily when I use the nitrous. I've been pulling 6° with the 150 shot and want to bump up to 200. The car is harder to start and shut off (wants to run on) with the timing pulled so I would like to be able to do it right before the water box at the track. I grabbed some 2 heat range colder plugs, too!
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 02/01/19 11:08 PM
I traded for a normal sized fiberglass Max Wedge scoop (mine was 2/3 size) a couple of years ago and finally got around to putting it on my cut hood and doing a sealed off cold air system.
I bought a cheap pizza tin at Wal-Mart, cut the holes for the carb and neighbor Dave bent up a hold-down and spot welded it to the tin. I ordered some 4" foam from Moroso and will glue it to the top to seal the hood.
I'm curious to see if a cold air intake gains me anything over the stock, flat hood.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 02/06/19 11:17 PM
I put the foam on today for the fresh air system.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 02/07/19 01:53 AM
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Posted By: TonyS451
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 02/16/19 11:15 PM
Cool, I like ingenuity! Last time I did an air pan it picked up about a tenth. That was on a car running low 10's before the pan.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 02/21/19 05:26 AM
Cool, I like ingenuity! Last time I did an air pan it picked up about a tenth. That was on a car running low 10's before the pan.
Plan on testing back to back.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 02/22/19 03:52 AM
I got some solid isolators from a friend today. Gonna put just one on the drivers side and see how that works. I currently have a Schumacher turnbuckle and it would be nice to eliminate it. Will paint it black to make them look like rubber. It has a nasty habit of tearing the drivers side rubber ones apart!
Posted By: moparpollack
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 02/22/19 04:04 AM
I have a solid strap on my 70 Roadrunner four speed. The motor doesn't move at all and I want to do this to all my other cars.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 02/22/19 07:43 AM
I have a solid strap on my 70 Roadrunner four speed. The motor doesn't move at all and I want to do this to all my other cars.
The engine limiter in mine
works fine, I just don't like the looks of it. I try really hard to stealth things up on this car. Yes, there are compromises (the rollbar drives me nuts as do the Cal-Tracs) but they are necessary evils.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 02/25/19 09:44 PM
Painted to resemble rubber and installed.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 03/11/19 11:08 PM
Little projects.
My dash lights haven't worked for quite a while and I was pretty sure it was the headlight switch. Installed a new one and everything lit up!
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 06/05/19 08:58 PM
We had a little problem with the hoodscoop during test and tune as it ripped off going through the lights at 128mph! Scoop wasn't horribly damaged but I don't care for the cut hood anyway as it doesn't fit the car as well as the flat one.
So, to make The Rumble in Bethany, Mo, we put the flat hood back on and put 200 jets in. We tested with 200 but it was really cold (no bottle heater, it's on the list) and we still ran a 10.71 @ 127 with 500 psi of pressure (cold bottle). Heated up the bottle but the track had gone away (45°) so it spun really hard on the last pass of the night. Still ran a 10.8.
We did go to Bethany and won the Gas Coupe/Sedan class setting the fastest time and e.t. I don't recall time as traction was horrible, but ran 104 mph in the 1/8th multiple times!
The 200 shot on the street is an amazing experience!
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 06/05/19 09:53 PM
I deleted the numbers since they recently updated the software and the earlier numbers were way off.
A few weekends ago, we entered an event with a 6.50 index at the behest of a friend. I had only been 6.65 up to this point but knew the weather and prep were going to be on point!
Long story short, I broke out in the first round with a 6.489, nearly a hundredth under the 6.50 I needed to run. ....but there was redemption in that timeslip! The best part was the 1.37 60 ft time! I had only ever been 1.54 best and was amazed that it pulled this time AND the front wheels for quite a ways!
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 11/02/19 01:26 AM
Here is the video of the pass. Yes I was asleep on the tree but it was .400 Pro tree and hard to get a handle on it.
We are the first pair down the track. Earlier that night it ran a 6.56 testing so I thought I was good.
https://youtu.be/vbXjkCLaNz8
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 11/02/19 01:35 AM
A little earlier in the season, we ran a nostalgia race at kid. I redlit in the final but got runner up money in the true street tire class.
With a 400 treadwear tire, I still managed to get a 1.72 60ft time. 120 lbs. over the rear bumper, leaving in 2nd gear and not able to use the nitrous per the rules. We dialed low 12's and the car worked like a charm all day!
12.0 dials to 6.50 index's, the car seems to be able to do it all and do it consistently along with driving it to work in nice weather!
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 11/02/19 01:55 AM
I guess I totally skipped over the high point of my season!
It rained most of the Summer so I really never got a chance to try out the 200 shot. We went to Kansas International for one of their grudge nights. I did a "one and done" as it was getting cold and the track was going away.
Car stumbled a little out of the hole, but finally got deep into the 10's with a 10.40 @ 130 mph! As evidenced by the better 1/8th mile times later on, I'm sure it has 10.30's if not high .20's in it.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 11/02/19 02:25 AM
Overall, it's been a great 2019!
No breakage this year, more bests, a 1st at The Rumble at Bethany, 1st at Mid America Dragway nostalgia event, quarter finals at Mopars at Mo-Kan and 2nd at KID nostalgia event! 10.40's and 6.50's!
Very happy with the reliability. The only nagging issue is a converter seal that started leaking and will require removal of the trans. I need to pull it apart and check internals anyway!
10.20's next year is the goal.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 11/30/19 10:54 PM
Last test and tune of the season at Mid America Dragway. Was on a 1/4 mile pass that would have been the fastest ever. The car nosed over at the big big end before the stripe (as evidenced by the low mph). Smoke started pouring behind me and even some inside the car on the return road. Car kept running. ...one hand on the extinguisher bit didn't want to open the hood...
The main power wire that comes off the alternator apparently rubbed through on a sharp edge of the valvecover and started arcing! It burnt ALL the insulation off that wire and made some of the others get really hot! It was amazing that it drove back to the pits and onto the trailer!
At least it happened end of season and I'll just order a new engine harness from Bill Evans.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 02/05/20 08:03 PM
Offseason updates:
I fixed the wiring as it was a faulty alternator that was the culprit after all. Upgraded from roundback to squareback alternator and did a few other fixes and upgrades to the wiring. The Evans harness was plug and play requiring only a few minutes to replace the old one.
I also took the time to remove the exhaust and weld up the Dynomax muffler on the drivers side again. For some reason it keeps cracking where they stamped "DYNOMAX" into it. Only on the one side, too! While the exaust is off, will probably pull the trans and freshen it as the front pump seal is marking its territory. Great opportunity to check everything out inside as I've been putting a lot of power through a relatively stock trans.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 03/22/20 12:33 AM
AMD had a 1/2 price closeout sale on some items so I picked up a front valance. My original was pretty beat even after being bodyworked.
Fit great and much improved although it isn't easily seen.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 04/12/20 06:48 PM
I finally bought a better aluminum transmission pan. My thinking is it will help strengthen the case and the nice, flat flange will help keep it from leaking like it does with the steel 518 pans. Made in USA to boot!
Posted By: DynoDave
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 04/12/20 11:39 PM
Glad you were able to scoop up some of that AMD metal before it all disappeared.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 04/13/20 03:19 PM
Glad you were able to scoop up some of that AMD metal before it all disappeared.
Me too!
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 05/21/20 09:28 AM
I pulled out the transmission to fix what I thought was a front seal leak. Turns out the snout on the converter had some wear so I decided to have it fixed. The transmission shop did that and pressure checked it only to find the drive plate was cracked. So, new snout, drive plate and ring gear for it and I'm back in business! The $320 would have gotten me close to a new converter but this one does what I want it to, so I decided to press on with repairs. Fortunately I had a local shop that could do this because Turbo Action wanted over $280 just to repair the snout and that was before shipping to FL. Doubt I use them again or recommend their converters when people ask what I'm running...
While the trans was out I took the opportunity to inspect it. The steels had some heat marks so I replaced all of them with new, put in a new front pump bushing and seal and did a new thrust washer. Alto Red clutches seem to be holding up so I threw them back in.
It's all together now and I just need to stab it in the car.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 07/16/20 09:57 PM
We did Mopars at Mo-Kan a couple of months ago, car ran fine but went out in the first round. We were running n/a, detuned and dialed an 11.70 to try and get it to hook.
It ran back to back 11.68 and 11.69 in test runs and in the first round ran an 11.58 braking hard before the finish. Ugh! best 60 ft. for the day was 1.63 so it was a full tenth off of what it should have been.
Gathering parts to do a bottle heater for the nitrous and have it on it's own circuit apart from the car. Dewalt cordless battery power and a pressure switch to ensure we have the correct pressure all the time without draining the battery in the staging lanes.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 07/18/20 11:14 PM
Working on the stand alone battery power for the bottle heater. Made some progress on that today...
The bottle has an adjustable pressure switch that will turn off the heater when it reaches 1000 psi. Uses DeWalt 20v cordless batteries for power to maintain temp yet keep the drain off the car battery in the staging lanes.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 07/22/20 01:40 AM
Added little rubber isolator feet to mount it to the trunk floor.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 07/29/20 01:54 PM
Base painted and ready to install.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 08/04/20 03:28 AM
I installed everything tonight and the second I flipped the switch the blanket was hot! It only took a couple of minutes to get the bottle up to 91° from 75°. I still need to wire up the pressure switch as it got late before I realized the leads for it were too short. I'll wire and test that portion of it tomorrow. I'm very impressed with how well it works so far!
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 08/05/20 03:03 AM
I wired the pressure switch tonight and it turned the heater off at 1000 psi.
I can flip the power switch and not worry about bottle pressure for the rest of the night!
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 08/17/20 03:35 AM
A couple of changes this weekend: The front tires were way too small and were too sketchy to be going through the traps with at 130mph, so I put some Mickey Thompson Sportsman SR's on it and threw them on some 15x4.5" Torque Thrusts for good measure. Decided to change up the look some. Someone on Moparts mentioned a good deal on Dana-Spicer Dana 60 rear covers so I bought one of those and painted since mine was the original pitted piece. The wife and I had an enjoyable Sunday evening driving it all over Wichita tonight.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 08/24/20 11:52 AM
After a pretty much wasted Summer, we finally got to make some passes at the SPAM Drags at Mo-Kan! It's a nostalgia race so they don't do a lot of prep and what they do gets pulled up and destroyed by the street treaded cars so I wasn't expecting great traction.
I was able to keep bottle pressure in the low 90's all day and keep the car consistent. It ran 105 mph to the 1/8th mile on every pass and 129-130mph in the 1/4. The best e.t. of the day was a new best of 10.39! Pretty happy with that since DA was 3500, the temp reached 90° and the 60 ft. was a lackluster 1.53.
It did what it was supposed to.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 09/13/20 03:14 AM
A new best quarter mile e.t. at KID last night. D.A. was 1800 and temp was in the 60's.
I bought new DeWalt 20Volt 6AH batteries and was able to sit in the staging lanes a long time with the bottle heater on. Worked great!
The one thing I have discovered is an engine using nitrous is much less sensitive to DA, temperature and water grains compared to a naturally aspirated engine. The mph is super consistent and the only thing really changing is 60 ft times due to prep.
Posted By: Button
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 09/23/20 10:39 AM
Alternator is old unit for mock up only.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 09/24/20 01:06 PM
Alternator is old unit for mock up only.
Yep, that was the plan (years ago) but the old one pulled out of a box on the farm worked perfectly for 7000 miles and hundreds of dragstrip passes. No need to change what was working.
Fortunately I have great friends and one of them upgraded to a smaller style and gave me his practically brand new unit. The new one had been sitting on the shelf for a couple of years.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 10/05/20 01:10 PM
We raced the 11.50 index at Kansas International Dragway yesterday.
It came down to me and one other guy that bracket races regularly (slicks, open headers, vinyl lettering on the windows, me with my mufflered pump gas pig...).
In what I thought was the last round, I beat him by .004 at the stripe. I had to brake hard near the stripe, mis-judged and and to whack the throttle a couple of times to get him. He bought back in so here we are lining up one more time.
This round I accidentally bumped in and turned on the stage light double bulbing him. He waits a bit, turns on the pre-stage light but doesn't go ahead and stage. The system times him out and gives him a big red bulb!
He goes to the tower and complains that he "didn't understand the rules" where the system would time him out if he didn't stage (he was trying to burn me down). He then comes up to me and asks if I was trying to double bulb him? Told him I slid in and didn't mean to. He says they will re-run us if I agree. Against my better judgement, I agree.
3rd round against this guy. I finally dispatch him when he goes red by -.01 when I was .01 to the good. He was trying real hard to put a beat down on me and ended up beating himself. I spent half the day racing THIS ONE GUY! LOL.
At the end of the day I ended up winning the 11.50 class and he went home a loser.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 11/08/20 12:40 AM
I achieved my goal to get a 10.20 this year and then some! I got maddeningly close to a 9 with a 10.01!
Not many changes to get there save for upping the jetting to a 250 shot and putting race gas in the nitrous tank and some in the stock tank for safety.
That was probably the last passes for the season and it ended on a high note.
Posted By: 70B5Cuda
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 11/13/20 11:55 PM
Impressive!! Nice work Mark!
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 11/16/20 03:10 PM
Impressive!! Nice work Mark!
Thanks, man!
It's amazing what a hack with some hand tools can do in the lawnmower bay of his home garage.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 11/28/20 09:14 PM
It weighed 3,720 lbs. today as raced when it did the 10.01.
I weighed 216 lbs. and the spare wheel/tire I had in the trunk for ballast was 56 lbs.
Car is 3,448 lbs. by itself.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 12/04/20 02:49 AM
Some people have asked about a few things so I figured I would put the information here and then copy/paste the link when I need to explain.
The car has :
Stock 5/16" fuel line and pickup it was born with. Stock tank and mechanical carter pump. I do use a supplemental small fuel cell deadheaded into the nitrous fuel solenoid when I spray.
Stock coil.
Stock distributor with a recurve. It is hooked to a analog MSD 6AL and has adjustable timing control from the drivers seat.
Stock style clutch fan (with jag clutch) and stock '65 radiator. No shroud and no thermostat. It does have an underdrive Moroso pulley on the crank. Stays cool on all but the hottest summer days in traffic!
Stock transmission with better clutches and a fwd pattern mvb. No billet drum and no bolt in sprag. Lots of flack over this but my contention is the engine doesn't spin high enough to need the drum and the sprag gets checked every time there is an issue with the driveline and burnouts are performed correctly with a Low Band Apply valvebody. Big 11" converter.
Stock k-frame, torsion bars and rubber bushings. Nothing fancy other than Wilwood brakes. Stock station wagon drums on rear.
Chrysler gave us a great platform that needs very little and can go very fast wihout the need for fancy aftermarket parts.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 01/14/21 12:05 AM
Getting ready for the 2021 season. Lots of cool nostalgia stuff on the radar including a brand new race this year. Lots of 275 drag radial racing as well that has some 6.50 index stuff so I may do some more of that. Fortunately the car is stock enough it fits in lots of events.
New M/T Drag radials and new 5 point camlock harnesses. I went with black this time for a little contrast.
Some better double adjustables Viking shocks are on order but 2-3 weeks out on them.
They should help to hook on less than ideal surfaces. They probably won't help 60 ft. from where I am right now on a well prepped track with the Calvert single adjustables. Will be disguising them so they don't stand out with a unique method...
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 01/21/21 09:46 PM
Viking Crusader double adjustables came in today....
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 01/27/21 05:29 PM
After shot. 2" heat shrink tubing.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 01/31/21 10:18 PM
Can kinda see the knobs if you are looking hard but toned down the bling some.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 02/04/21 02:02 AM
It will be a while before we can test the new shocks at the track. I put them on the 4 Compression and 4 Rebound setting and drove it around this afternoon. To my surprise, this thing rode better than it ever has! Amazing!
Posted By: carnut68
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 02/14/21 04:36 PM
It will be a while before we can test the new shocks at the track. I put them on the 4 Compression and 4 Rebound setting and drove it around this afternoon. To my surprise, this thing rode better than it ever has! Amazing!
I'm curious as to what Howards lifters you are running and what spring pressures you have? I have a similar build,but 511 ci in an RB with Indy EZ heads for an A body. I was considering a Howards HR cam. Seems like you have had good luck.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 02/14/21 06:53 PM
It will be a while before we can test the new shocks at the track. I put them on the 4 Compression and 4 Rebound setting and drove it around this afternoon. To my surprise, this thing rode better than it ever has! Amazing!
I'm curious as to what Howards lifters you are running and what spring pressures you have? I have a similar build,but 511 ci in an RB with Indy EZ heads for an A body. I was considering a Howards HR cam. Seems like you have had good luck.
Honestly, I don't know part numbers for either one. I do recall the Howards lifters have a 6500 rpm limit. Cam and lifters were ordered through Summit racing and the springs, locks and retainers had been changed and were on the heads when I bought them. The machine shop looked them over and said they would be fine for my cam. I've lamented here lately I wish I had taken notes during the engine build.
Posted By: carnut68
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 02/14/21 10:07 PM
It will be a while before we can test the new shocks at the track. I put them on the 4 Compression and 4 Rebound setting and drove it around this afternoon. To my surprise, this thing rode better than it ever has! Amazing!
I'm curious as to what Howards lifters you are running and what spring pressures you have? I have a similar build,but 511 ci in an RB with Indy EZ heads for an A body. I was considering a Howards HR cam. Seems like you have had good luck.
Honestly, I don't know part numbers for either one. I do recall the Howards lifters have a 6500 rpm limit. Cam and lifters were ordered through Summit racing and the springs, locks and retainers had been changed and were on the heads when I bought them. The machine shop looked them over and said they would be fine for my cam. I've lamented here lately I wish I had taken notes during the engine build.
Howards recommended the 91774 lifter so that's probably what I'll use. I'm thinking my springs are good to go, Comp 928. You sure have everything working. Thanks for the input.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 02/15/21 02:33 AM
It will be a while before we can test the new shocks at the track. I put them on the 4 Compression and 4 Rebound setting and drove it around this afternoon. To my surprise, this thing rode better than it ever has! Amazing!
I'm curious as to what Howards lifters you are running and what spring pressures you have? I have a similar build,but 511 ci in an RB with Indy EZ heads for an A body. I was considering a Howards HR cam. Seems like you have had good luck.
Honestly, I don't know part numbers for either one. I do recall the Howards lifters have a 6500 rpm limit. Cam and lifters were ordered through Summit racing and the springs, locks and retainers had been changed and were on the heads when I bought them. The machine shop looked them over and said they would be fine for my cam. I've lamented here lately I wish I had taken notes during the engine build.
Howards recommended the 91774 lifter so that's probably what I'll use. I'm thinking my springs are good to go, Comp 928. You sure have everything working. Thanks for the input.
Thanks! I've had so much fun building, racing and driving it. It truly does everything well.
One particular goal I have in mind for this year is to run a 9 at the track and drive it home. (I live about 20 miles from the track.)
Posted By: ZIPPY
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 02/18/21 06:11 PM
Love everything you've done to the car
Always look forward to updates and seeing what the next step is.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 02/18/21 08:54 PM
Love everything you've done to the car
Always look forward to updates and seeing what the next step is.
Thanks, Rich!
I've promised her she gets pretty paint if she gets me into the 9's.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 03/09/21 05:12 PM
A minor update.
We had first test and tune of the season on Sunday. Wind was a headwind 25 mph and gusting to 40, so wasn't a great day but temps were great in the 60's.
The first pass was n/a to 1. Break in the new drag radials and 2. Get a good baseline on the new Viking shocks/settings.
It hooked did a small wheelie and ran an 11.50 and did what it was supposed to (it runs a little slower with the colder plugs, heavier weight oil and the nitrous plate impeding flow.) Usually runs high 11.30's to mid 11.40's depending on weather, so I was pleased with the first pass.
I turned on the bottle, made sure it was ~95°, and made a pass. The nose came up and then fell pretty quickly, causing it to buck and do a 1.50 60. (Should be high 1.30's).I adjusted the compression a couple of clicks and ran almost identical passes. 10.30/10.32 @ 130 mph. I had removed 50 lbs. out of the trunk and really should have left it so I wasn't making two changes at the same time.
So overall, not a bad day considering conditions and learning new stuff.
Nerd data points: It used 5.4 lbs. of nitrous and half a quart of supplemental fuel for 2 passes @ 250 shot setting.
Shock settings:
12 Compression and 4 Rebound for the n/a and first (10.30) nitrous pass.
10 compression and 4 rebound for the second (10.32) nitrous pass.
Posted By: ZIPPY
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 03/09/21 07:19 PM
Nothing was hurt and you got the car out with the new goodies on it, I am going to call it a win.
What type of ballast are you using and how do you have it mounted?
I'm looking at options for mine, have a few ideas.
Nobody ever wants to discuss this LOL.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 03/10/21 02:08 AM
Nothing was hurt and you got the car out with the new goodies on it, I am going to call it a win.
What type of ballast are you using and how do you have it mounted?
I'm looking at options for mine, have a few ideas.
Nobody ever wants to discuss this LOL.
Absolutely! That's what we said coming home. Any day you can leave the track without breakage and you learn something is a good day.
I don't want to talk about ballast either! LOL! Mainly because we've been using one of the street tread 275 tires/cop wheel combos for quick, easy ballast. The plan was to weld in either some allthread or put in a weight box this last Winter and we just never got around to it. I mean, it was working, so....😄 Not exactly legal since it's not "attached" but they never tech inside the trunk since battery is up front.
We definitely want to have the ability to add more in case we want to do a couple of the small town street drags.
Posted By: n20mstr
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 03/10/21 05:06 PM
A minor update.
We had first test and tune of the season on Sunday. Wind was a headwind 25 mph and gusting to 40, so wasn't a great day but temps were great in the 60's.
The first pass was n/a to 1. Break in the new drag radials and 2. Get a good baseline on the new Viking shocks/settings.
It hooked did a small wheelie and ran an 11.50 and did what it was supposed to (it runs a little slower with the colder plugs, heavier weight oil and the nitrous plate impeding flow.) Usually runs high 11.30's to mid 11.40's depending on weather, so I was pleased with the first pass.
I turned on the bottle, made sure it was ~95°, and made a pass. The nose came up and then fell pretty quickly, causing it to buck and do a 1.50 60. (Should be high 1.30's).I adjusted the compression a couple of clicks and ran almost identical passes. 10.30/10.32 @ 130 mph. I had removed 50 lbs. out of the trunk and really should have left it so I wasn't making two changes at the same time.
So overall, not a bad day considering conditions and learning new stuff.
Nerd data points: It used 5.4 lbs. of nitrous and half a quart of supplemental fuel for 2 passes @ 250 shot setting.
Shock settings:
12 Compression and 4 Rebound for the n/a and first (10.30) nitrous pass.
10 compression and 4 rebound for the second (10.32) nitrous pass.
Whats the flowing fuel psi? do you have a flow tool?
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 03/10/21 05:53 PM
A minor update.
We had first test and tune of the season on Sunday. Wind was a headwind 25 mph and gusting to 40, so wasn't a great day but temps were great in the 60's.
The first pass was n/a to 1. Break in the new drag radials and 2. Get a good baseline on the new Viking shocks/settings.
It hooked did a small wheelie and ran an 11.50 and did what it was supposed to (it runs a little slower with the colder plugs, heavier weight oil and the nitrous plate impeding flow.) Usually runs high 11.30's to mid 11.40's depending on weather, so I was pleased with the first pass.
I turned on the bottle, made sure it was ~95°, and made a pass. The nose came up and then fell pretty quickly, causing it to buck and do a 1.50 60. (Should be high 1.30's).I adjusted the compression a couple of clicks and ran almost identical passes. 10.30/10.32 @ 130 mph. I had removed 50 lbs. out of the trunk and really should have left it so I wasn't making two changes at the same time.
So overall, not a bad day considering conditions and learning new stuff.
Nerd data points: It used 5.4 lbs. of nitrous and half a quart of supplemental fuel for 2 passes @ 250 shot setting.
Shock settings:
12 Compression and 4 Rebound for the n/a and first (10.30) nitrous pass.
10 compression and 4 rebound for the second (10.32) nitrous pass.
Whats the flowing fuel psi? do you have a flow tool?
Should be 5psi and no, I don't have a flow tool.
Posted By: n20mstr
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 03/10/21 06:41 PM
OK , real important here. Make or buy a flow tool. You could be too high on the fuel psi by 1/2 lb and that could be some MPH . All you need is way of holding a .073 nitrous jet in line. Let that flow off the regulator into a bucket and read the psi. Look at SJ videos on youtube
Posted By: an8sec70cuda
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 03/11/21 08:49 PM
I made a flow tool from a hardware store 1/4 turn valve and pipe fittings, some leftover -6 AN fittings and line, and a decent gauge off ebay for about $30. I put a cap on the end of the outlet line and drilled a .073" hole in it. I chamfered the hole so it'd be a little nicer flowing.
I borrowed my buddy's really nice and expensive flow tool he bought from Gene Fulton to compare. They read exactly the same. I tried them multiple times and even swapped the orifice fittings, same result.
Pic shows mine up front.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 03/12/21 12:23 AM
I made a flow tool from a hardware store 1/4 turn valve and pipe fittings, some leftover -6 AN fittings and line, and a decent gauge off ebay for about $30. I put a cap on the end of the outlet line and drilled a .073" hole in it. I chamfered the hole so it'd be a little nicer flowing.
I borrowed my buddy's really nice and expensive flow tool he bought from Gene Fulton to compare. They read exactly the same. I tried them multiple times and even swapped the orifice fittings, same result.
Pic shows mine up front.
Chip, you should just ship that to me since you're done with it and have yours figured out!
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 03/24/21 07:26 PM
The new Viking shocks working well in n/a form. It was printing tickets running 11.38's this last weekend at Mo-Kan. We have a good setting for that, now to work on the nitrous setting.
12 Compression 6 Rebound
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 04/05/21 12:19 PM
We cruised at a small town cruise where I lived for 11 years all Saturday night. Lots of fun, car never missed a beat. It rode really nice all evening with the new double adjustable Viking's on the back!
I've been wanting to get four corner weights but had to settle for front and rear.
With me in the car, helmet, fire jacket, full nitrous bottle and 55 lbs. of ballast in the trunk, it weighed 3,740 lbs. total. Basically in ready to race form. (Notice how it keeps gaining?!
) 3,450 lbs. for the car by itself.
1,940 lbs. on the front wheels, so 52% front and 48% rear weight distribution. Not horrible for all steel, complete interior and still having a stock radiator, battery up front, etc.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 04/29/21 01:06 AM
Adding a headrest for safety since my bucket seats are low back. I'm making it adjustable and removable. I hadn't realized I needed one until a tech inspector said something about it last year. Will be painted, upholstered and padded to match.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 05/01/21 11:13 PM
I still need to mask and paint but here is the finished product. Really happy with the end result!
Posted By: an8sec70cuda
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 05/03/21 12:36 PM
That turned out nice!
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 05/03/21 04:08 PM
Thanks!
We stole some of the idea from a kit Tim McAmis sells but Dave came up with the size and shape of the head rest to where it loosely replicates the dimensions of the main hoop.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 05/05/21 12:10 AM
Pic of the backside.
Posted By: ZIPPY
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 05/12/21 05:13 PM
I really like that headrest and have been meaning to do a similar one for years...
but hadn't considered adjustability, so that really helps. Did manage to collect the oddball color vinyl (silver)
but that was it. Thanks for that post.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 05/23/21 02:16 PM
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 06/08/21 07:19 PM
Getting ready for The Midway Drags this Saturday. Took a screenshot of a short video they had with my car in it. '72 and earlier period correct cars and you had to send photos and be approved. Should be lots of fun!
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 06/21/21 08:22 AM
We had a great time at the inaugural Midway Drags! Lots of very nice cars and a surprising amount of spectators! The weather was perfect. They picked the fastest four for a "runoff" in each class. We were in the top 4 times in Superstock so we got to compete for a trophy. It was heads up and the 540" BBC El Camino we raced had been 11.25's all day where we had run 11.50's. Nitrous was technically not allowed but I turned it on to make it a race. Fender raced him and did an 11.27 to his 11.25. I wanted to put on a good show for the fans more than anything. The best part for me was stomping a mudhole in lots of Pontiacs all day long.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 08/25/21 12:50 PM
I recently had heard some metallic sounds off and on when the engine was running. It sounded similar to when the flexplate bolts back out and make noise. I checked them and the converter bolts seemed tight but the noise persisted. I decided to pull the trans and check the crank to flexplate bolts as I didn't recall if I had used loctite on them or not and figured they may be the cause. I got the trans out and turned the engine over to be greeted by it "grabbing" in on area of rotation (rotating it from the flexplate side under the car). Had a neighbor do that and noticed I was hearing the sound from up front. Crap! The balancer ring has slipped. This (stock) one was supposed to be a temporary fix when the last one broke but I got busy and neglected to order an SFI unit. Lesson learned. The lesson here, kids, is that big strokers don't like stock style balancers! I guess the torque is just twisting the outer ring off then inner? It never goes over 6400 rpm and I'm not even close to that going through the traps. I have a new Trickflow TraxMax to put on when this 100* heat subsides.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 09/07/21 03:00 AM
She is back together and running with the new, one piece balancer.
We have 3 nostalgia races this Fall including one (The Rumble) in two weeks so we'll see how it goes.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 09/19/21 04:31 PM
After thrashing to get it done and driving it to work last week to get it sorted, we raced The Rumble in Bethany, MO this weekend.
They put us in the Gas Coupe Sedan class (even though we technically meet stock class specs.) because they have seen us run before and know how fast the car is.
12 cars in the field and they took the fastest 4 for eiliminations. We got paired up with a Chevelle in the finals and had to run him down because we spun. Final round was against a blown, chopped '49 Ford. He broke and couldn't make the call so we had a solo.
Awesome day!
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 09/20/21 03:48 AM
Found the pic.
All kinds of cars with from hard street tires to slicks going down the track, so getting off the line was tricky. Still ran consistent 105 mph 1/8th mile passes all day.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 10/13/21 06:41 PM
We had lots of fun at the KID nostalgia race even though I went out first round. I took myself out by going red by .06.
Earlier in the day I figured I would do a nitrous test hit but just couldn't get the 60 ft. where it belonged. A 20 mph headwind and a DA of over 3,000 didn't help anything.
Wrapping up the year, it's been great but the stars just haven't aligned to get me that 9.XX. We may go to Tulsa and try at Mopars at the Park if the weather is good.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 01/25/22 04:01 PM
I'm pulling apart the 505 this winter for a health check. No issues with it but after beating on it fairly regularly, I'm thinking I should give things a once-over.
While It's apart I'm putting in .027 Cometic head gaskets to replace the .060. It should bump compression up near 11:1. Hoping to gain around 30 HP or so from the change.
I will probably upgrade the main fuel line and pickup in the tank to 3/8" as well while the engine is out.
Goals are:
10.99 N/A
9.99 with the 250 shot
Drive it to the track and home.
All through the mufflers and on street tires. The pump gas thing may be out the window.
Posted By: n20mstr
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 01/28/22 08:41 PM
I'm pulling apart the 505 this winter for a health check. No issues with it but after beating on it fairly regularly, I'm thinking I should give things a once-over.
While It's apart I'm putting in .027 Cometic head gaskets to replace the .060. It should bump compression up near 11:1. Hoping to gain around 30 HP or so from the change.
I will probably upgrade the main fuel line and pickup in the tank to 3/8" as well while the engine is out.
Goals are:
10.99 N/A
9.99 with the 250 shot
Drive it to the track and home.
All through the mufflers and on street tires. The pump gas thing may be out the window.
Have you considered E85?
changes sound good....Just be careful approaching that 300 threshold, it may like more retard than you expect. It all depends on how early the exhaust is opening. Just for comparison i would do a cranking compression test now, and after the changes. Then pump it every time you race. You will really be able to keep track of the engines "health" that way
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 01/28/22 10:58 PM
I'm pulling apart the 505 this winter for a health check. No issues with it but after beating on it fairly regularly, I'm thinking I should give things a once-over.
While It's apart I'm putting in .027 Cometic head gaskets to replace the .060. It should bump compression up near 11:1. Hoping to gain around 30 HP or so from the change.
I will probably upgrade the main fuel line and pickup in the tank to 3/8" as well while the engine is out.
Goals are:
10.99 N/A
9.99 with the 250 shot
Drive it to the track and home.
All through the mufflers and on street tires. The pump gas thing may be out the window.
Have you considered E85?
changes sound good....Just be careful approaching that 300 threshold, it may like more retard than you expect. It all depends on how early the exhaust is opening. Just for comparison i would do a cranking compression test now, and after the changes. Then pump it every time you race. You will really be able to keep track of the engines "health" that way
I considered E85 when I first built the engine and talked myself out of it. Availability, hassle, larger fuel system, etc.
Very good idea on the compression check!
Posted By: carnut68
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 01/30/22 02:00 PM
I'm pulling apart the 505 this winter for a health check. No issues with it but after beating on it fairly regularly, I'm thinking I should give things a once-over.
While It's apart I'm putting in .027 Cometic head gaskets to replace the .060. It should bump compression up near 11:1. Hoping to gain around 30 HP or so from the change.
I will probably upgrade the main fuel line and pickup in the tank to 3/8" as well while the engine is out.
Goals are:
10.99 N/A
9.99 with the 250 shot
Drive it to the track and home.
All through the mufflers and on street tires. The pump gas thing may be out the window.
Have you considered E85?
changes sound good....Just be careful approaching that 300 threshold, it may like more retard than you expect. It all depends on how early the exhaust is opening. Just for comparison i would do a cranking compression test now, and after the changes. Then pump it every time you race. You will really be able to keep track of the engines "health" that way
I considered E85 when I first built the engine and talked myself out of it. Availability, hassle, larger fuel system, etc.
Very good idea on the compression check!
I would stay away from race fuel since you street drive. Race fuel is a hassle just keeping jugs filled and or dealing with buying in a drum.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 01/31/22 02:44 PM
I'm pulling apart the 505 this winter for a health check. No issues with it but after beating on it fairly regularly, I'm thinking I should give things a once-over.
While It's apart I'm putting in .027 Cometic head gaskets to replace the .060. It should bump compression up near 11:1. Hoping to gain around 30 HP or so from the change.
I will probably upgrade the main fuel line and pickup in the tank to 3/8" as well while the engine is out.
Goals are:
10.99 N/A
9.99 with the 250 shot
Drive it to the track and home.
All through the mufflers and on street tires. The pump gas thing may be out the window.
Have you considered E85?
changes sound good....Just be careful approaching that 300 threshold, it may like more retard than you expect. It all depends on how early the exhaust is opening. Just for comparison i would do a cranking compression test now, and after the changes. Then pump it every time you race. You will really be able to keep track of the engines "health" that way
I considered E85 when I first built the engine and talked myself out of it. Availability, hassle, larger fuel system, etc.
Very good idea on the compression check!
I would stay away from race fuel since you street drive. Race fuel is a hassle just keeping jugs filled and or dealing with buying in a drum.
I'm going from 10.3 to 11:1. It ran fine with the cheapest pump gas before at 36° total timing. I have stations that carry 91 octane fuel so that coupled with the fact I can pull timing with the turn of a dial, I'm sure it will be fine. The race gas will be in the nitrous stand alone cell (and maybe a little in the main tank) for those nights that I'm e.t. chasing at the track. Cometics are re-usable so if I don't like the higher compression, I'll just swap back to the .060 gaskets.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 02/01/22 07:28 PM
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 02/22/22 09:33 PM
Pulled it down the rest of the way yesterday and installed new rod bearings. Shortblock is assembled and ready to go.
Posted By: DynoDave
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 02/26/22 06:56 PM
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 03/16/22 05:44 PM
Dumped the engine back into the car last night. Should be ready to rock this weekend!
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 03/20/22 09:59 PM
Back running and sounding crisp!
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 05/24/22 01:12 PM
After some self-induced issues with oil pressure and ending up with WAY too much, I went back to a stock spring in the oil pump. It comes close to sucking the pan dry with 7 quarts in the pan at the end of the 1/4 mile as it is with a stock spring. 75 psi cold idle and 45-ish warm idle now with .002 bearing clearance on the rods.
Shook it down by driving it around Sunday and drove it to work yesterday.
Just adding 7/10 of a point of compression made a difference. You can tell it's a little snappier and a little crisper. Hopefully the track #'s bear that out, but after getting used to the sound and feel of it over the last 6 years, it is definitely different.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 06/09/22 12:18 PM
We did a Wednesday night test and tune at the track to make sure all was good before the Midway Drags nostalgia event this weekend.
I had way too much timing pulled to be safe so the first couple of passes on nitrous were popping going down the track. By the time I got the timing corrected, the bottle was getting low (only brought one with me). With really sketchy prep, it still pulled off a 10.69 @ 131.7 mph popping and banging in the 60 ft. With me adding timing on the fly. LOL!
Mph was about the only way to tell what was going on with no traction, but it went with 1 mph of the 133 best it has done, so pretty happy.
The DA was 3200 when we got there so not great, either.
It was a great shakedown with no issues.
Posted By: B1duster
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 06/12/22 05:02 AM
Awesome build ! Which Howard’s cam are you using ? Thanks
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 06/12/22 10:53 PM
Awesome build ! Which Howard’s cam are you using ? Thanks
235/241 duration at .050, 545 lift hydraulic roller.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 07/06/22 03:13 PM
Not many pics (kind of ashamed to post what I do have) but we had issues a while back with the alternator going bad and back feeding through the engine harness. The engine harness was replaced with a reproduction but what I didn't realize at the time (because the car still worked fine) was the under dash harness got roasted pretty badly! It started having random issues lately with starting and lights flickering so I dug in and found bare power wires under the dash! I'm pretty fortunate that the car didn't burn to the ground!
Unfortunately, new dash harnesses aren't available for a '63 Dodge so I looked around to see if anyone had a used one. I found one but the guy wanted $400 for a used one! Kinda crazy for a small, 60 year-old wiring harness, but I guess people know an opportunity with they see one!
This prompted me to dig into mine and found it was mainly the two power wires that were fried. The rest of the harness was in surprisingly good shape! A good friend and neighbor helped me dissect and improve it. We spent about 3 hours on it last night and did wire replacement along with the ammeter delete. Gonna do the alternator wire directly to starter relay wire setup as well. I highly recommend this! I need to re-wrap the harness and put it back in the car and we should be good to go!
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 09/24/22 10:56 PM
Again, pics will not tell the whole story. It's been a hot Summer and we missed The Rumble race due to rain and the car simply not being done. I re-wrapped the dash harness, bypassed the ammeter and put a waterproof fuse housing on the firewall next to the master cylinder to protect the interior wiring should a failure happen. Very happy with how everything works especially since the dash and harness was scattered all over the interior a few days ago.
I should have done this mod a long time ago!
We are going to Mid America Dragway to race a nostalgia race tomorrow and looking forward to it!
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 09/25/22 11:07 PM
Awesome day at Mid America Dragway as we took home the win for '64 and earlier street tire class! Hard to believe it had a gutted dash last Wednesday! Dialed 11.50's n/a and it was flawless off the trailer. Beautiful day with perfect temp to boot!
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 10/10/22 02:56 AM
We went to Kansas International Friday night. The temperature started dropping rapidly by the time we got down the track at about 7 pm. 53° ambient and 63° track temp. I did a n/a hit and it was pretty slippery. I threw 50 lbs. of spare tire in the trunk and cracked open the bottle. I had a little too much timing pulled and it let me know by popping in the burnout box while purging through the motor. I added a couple of degrees before pulling into the beams. It hit pretty good and everything happened so fast that I forgot to shift (been a few months since I've ran the car on the hose. She hit the rev limiter, blew flames out the mufflers and I FINALLY shifted. Ran a 10.7 @ 129mph. Pretty good for the driver being a goof! Finally lined up with a 55 Chevy that had an LS with a turbo. It was lightly sprinkling as we pulled into the burnout box. Clean burnout with no pops purging. I got a decent light and tree'd the '55. I knew he was on my quarter panel as I couldn't see him in the rear view and he wasn't beside me. I slipped and slid to a 10.59 to his 10.85. The back half of the track was slippier than I ever experienced but managed to hang on!
Considering I put little to no effort to get the bottle to temp (was 72° when shot with temp gun, should be 91°) and had a lot of timing pulled (did a plug check later and timing mark was conservative) I'm really happy with how it was performing. 60 ft. was WAY off due to prep and cold temps. Considering the issues this year with the dash harness rebuild, I'm happy it is back doing what it should!
The biggest change I witnessed after the ammeter bypass and wiring the alternator to directly feed the battery is the lights don't dim at idle and the car idles much better with timing pulled! I'm happier with the functionality of the car than I have been in a while. It's starting to be a really refined piece that does everything well. Hopefully we get a couple more opportunites to run at the track and I'm definitely driving it to work tomorrow!
Here's a screenshot of video the neighbor took of the flames out the tailpipe! LOL!
Posted By: DynoDave
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 10/11/22 12:02 AM
That's movin...especially in damp condition!
Posted By: mopowers
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 10/14/22 04:08 AM
Working on the stand alone battery power for the bottle heater. Made some progress on that today...
The bottle has an adjustable pressure switch that will turn off the heater when it reaches 1000 psi. Uses DeWalt 20v cordless batteries for power to maintain temp yet keep the drain off the car battery in the staging lanes.
That is such a great idea using the dewalt battery. Do you have a photo of the panel mounted in the trunk??
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 10/14/22 02:55 PM
Working on the stand alone battery power for the bottle heater. Made some progress on that today...
The bottle has an adjustable pressure switch that will turn off the heater when it reaches 1000 psi. Uses DeWalt 20v cordless batteries for power to maintain temp yet keep the drain off the car battery in the staging lanes.
That is such a great idea using the dewalt battery. Do you have a photo of the panel mounted in the trunk??
I do not, but I can get some tonight. The board is mounted right behind the bottle on some rubber MSD Box isolators.
Posted By: mopowers
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 10/14/22 03:23 PM
Working on the stand alone battery power for the bottle heater. Made some progress on that today...
The bottle has an adjustable pressure switch that will turn off the heater when it reaches 1000 psi. Uses DeWalt 20v cordless batteries for power to maintain temp yet keep the drain off the car battery in the staging lanes.
That is such a great idea using the dewalt battery. Do you have a photo of the panel mounted in the trunk??
I do not, but I can get some tonight. The board is mounted right behind the bottle on some rubber MSD Box isolators.
Thanks man. I appreciate it! I just noticed this thread and really love this build.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 10/14/22 03:58 PM
Working on the stand alone battery power for the bottle heater. Made some progress on that today...
The bottle has an adjustable pressure switch that will turn off the heater when it reaches 1000 psi. Uses DeWalt 20v cordless batteries for power to maintain temp yet keep the drain off the car battery in the staging lanes.
That is such a great idea using the dewalt battery. Do you have a photo of the panel mounted in the trunk??
I do not, but I can get some tonight. The board is mounted right behind the bottle on some rubber MSD Box isolators.
Thanks man. I appreciate it! I just noticed this thread and really love this build.
Thanks!
I often wonder if I should keep posting here as it's not the typical Mopar "build" and is more about making performance upgrades, experimenting and chasing a number. As you can see, the cosmetics take a backseat!
I'm always surprised by the views this thread gets.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 10/14/22 08:32 PM
Okay, here are the pics of the board in the trunk. Don't look too closely as the trunk floor has lots of patina and is low on the priority list.
Posted By: mopowers
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 10/14/22 11:03 PM
Kickass man. Thanks for taking that for me. I may borrow that basic idea for mounting a rear fuse/relay panel.
Probably a stupid question, but does the bottle heater overheat with it running on 20 v instead of 12?
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 10/15/22 12:56 AM
Kickass man. Thanks for taking that for me. I may borrow that basic idea for mounting a rear fuse/relay panel.
Probably a stupid question, but does the bottle heater overheat with it running on 20 v instead of 12?
Ah, re-read the question. No problems with the heater so far.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 10/31/22 03:45 PM
We did a Daily Driver class at the track Saturday night. Cold and slippery. I won first round against a blown truck but drew a really fast Fox nitrous body notch second round. We both left with equal lights (pro tree, .333 to .334, footbrake only) but he was just faster (1000 lbs. lighter) and did a 6.74 to his 6.17. We both had lousy 60 ft.'s him, 1.50's and me 1.60's.
Overall we had a great night and the track had an amazing turnout.
Pic is of a test and tune pass n/a earlier in the night...
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 11/05/22 10:54 PM
Yeah, kinda hard to see but made the trek out to a friend's overgrown stash of junk cars. He's getting ready to crush a few and I inquired about a '63 Dodge 4 door I had seen. I wanted a little better rear glass as 25 year-old me had put some sanding scratches in the rear glass when sanding the body and it had welding pits from the floors as well. Best part was he told me I could have what I needed for FREE from the car. I've had at least 3 other rear windows and they were all worse than what I had once cleaned. This one was hard to get to and was filthy but I rolled the dice! It came out really close to perfect once cleaned and will be going in soon!
It's the little things in life...
Posted By: DynoDave
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 11/06/22 01:41 AM
Well worth the effort!
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 11/07/22 02:46 AM
I figured I would do an end of season re-cap and what's in store since this "Project" is more about performance and goals in that area than it is restoration.
We did NOT get it into the 9's this year as I had desperately hoped. Lots of factors including the availability of the track prep or "glue" our track uses. They were cutting it by 50% with alcohol due to availability and price. For a car like mine on 275 radials, it's almost impossible to get down a track when turned all the way up. It still does okay at the 600 hp level but at the 850, it's impossible! The stars have to align with good weather, sticky prep, track temp and a perfect run to get that goal with the current setup. That said, a different front shock setting has really helped smooth out the rise in the front and kept it from topping out and unloading like it had been.
I continue to be amazed at the strength of the factory block and transmission. After years of the horsepower limits of the RB block being thrown out there by the "experts" you learn who has actually pushed the limits and who hasn't. I'm convinced a light rotating assembly, limiting the rpm's and keeping the engine from detonating are all keys to longevity. We're going on 7 years with this combo now and I couldn't be happier.
Plans for the off season include a Nitrous Express plate capable of a 500 shot and an upgrade to a -6 feed line. Cue Salt and Pepa's "Push it real good!"
Posted By: n20mstr
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 11/09/22 05:11 PM
I figured I would do an end of season re-cap and what's in store since this "Project" is more about performance and goals in that area than it is restoration.
We did NOT get it into the 9's this year as I had desperately hoped. Lots of factors including the availability of the track prep or "glue" our track uses. They were cutting it by 50% with alcohol due to availability and price. For a car like mine on 275 radials, it's almost impossible to get down a track when turned all the way up. It still does okay at the 600 hp level but at the 850, it's impossible! The stars have to align with good weather, sticky prep, track temp and a perfect run to get that goal with the current setup. That said, a different front shock setting has really helped smooth out the rise in the front and kept it from topping out and unloading like it had been.
I continue to be amazed at the strength of the factory block and transmission. After years of the horsepower limits of the RB block being thrown out there by the "experts" you learn who has actually pushed the limits and who hasn't. I'm convinced a light rotating assembly, limiting the rpm's and keeping the engine from detonating are all keys to longevity. We're going on 7 years with this combo now and I couldn't be happier.
Plans for the off season include a Nitrous Express plate capable of a 500 shot and an upgrade to a -6 feed line. Cue Salt and Pepa's "Push it real good!"
7/16 WRENCH IS ALL THAT HOLDING YOU BACK.......
do you have a nitrous controller??
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 11/09/22 07:22 PM
I figured I would do an end of season re-cap and what's in store since this "Project" is more about performance and goals in that area than it is restoration.
We did NOT get it into the 9's this year as I had desperately hoped. Lots of factors including the availability of the track prep or "glue" our track uses. They were cutting it by 50% with alcohol due to availability and price. For a car like mine on 275 radials, it's almost impossible to get down a track when turned all the way up. It still does okay at the 600 hp level but at the 850, it's impossible! The stars have to align with good weather, sticky prep, track temp and a perfect run to get that goal with the current setup. That said, a different front shock setting has really helped smooth out the rise in the front and kept it from topping out and unloading like it had been.
I continue to be amazed at the strength of the factory block and transmission. After years of the horsepower limits of the RB block being thrown out there by the "experts" you learn who has actually pushed the limits and who hasn't. I'm convinced a light rotating assembly, limiting the rpm's and keeping the engine from detonating are all keys to longevity. We're going on 7 years with this combo now and I couldn't be happier.
Plans for the off season include a Nitrous Express plate capable of a 500 shot and an upgrade to a -6 feed line. Cue Salt and Pepa's "Push it real good!"
7/16 WRENCH IS ALL THAT HOLDING YOU BACK.......
do you have a nitrous controller??
Waiting on that big Christmas bonus! LOL! I was piecing together the NX plate, solenoids and -6 line separately and it ended up being almost the same price as just buying the kit minus the bottle.
No controller yet. We'll see if I can hook the 300 shot. If not, I'll install a controller.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 12/07/22 02:17 AM
Back window ceramic tinted. Will get the side glass done to match later. Very happy with how it turned out!
Posted By: DynoDave
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 12/08/22 03:26 PM
Nice! Gotta love the extra UV protection. If you don't mind my asking, what did that cost to have done? I bet the installer loved working on it on his bench Vs. installed.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 12/09/22 12:51 AM
Nice! Gotta love the extra UV protection. If you don't mind my asking, what did that cost to have done? I bet the installer loved working on it on his bench Vs. installed.
He quoted me 3 prices. $40 for regular tint, $75 for carbon tint and $100 for the ceramic. He had a neat little display with the different tints on a small wheel and a heat lamp behind it. It was amazing the difference with the ceramic tint and how you couldn't feel the heat! My car being black is brutal on a hot summer day in the staging lanes!
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 12/10/22 06:01 PM
This arrived today:
It's good for up to 500 shot. I told myself I only want 50 more as in 300 shot, but we all know how that goes...
I'm burnin', I'm burnin for you! by Blue Oyster Cult keeps playing in my head.
Posted By: Blusmbl
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 12/12/22 01:31 AM
Man, are you skipping the 9's entirely and going right to 8's with the 500 jets in the plate kit??
Love everything about your '63, and it's impressive what you're doing with a mild combo and lots of factory parts. You've definitely got me convinced a stock block can live at 750-800 hp as long as the tune is spot on and the rpm is kept low.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 12/12/22 03:35 AM
Man, are you skipping the 9's entirely and going right to 8's with the 500 jets in the plate kit??
Love everything about your '63, and it's impressive what you're doing with a mild combo and lots of factory parts. You've definitely got me convinced a stock block can live at 750-800 hp as long as the tune is spot on and the rpm is kept low.
Thanks!
It's funny how my initial goal was to build a nice Max Wedge clone with a crossram and do car shows. Then I discovered how fun and addicting the dragstrip is! Now it's become more of an experiment and something to tinker with and continually improve because I got bored running low 11's.
As far as the 500 shot, I plan on approaching it in baby steps like I have up to this point. I will admit I have a ton of envy for these guys that can monitor everything with their modern ecu and here I am half blind with no data, a screwdriver and hammer.
I will say the software that I use has been a really accurate predictor and lets me know I'm on the right path.
We are at 850hp currently, BTW. I keep telling myself consistent 9.99's will satisfy but I know better.
I talked to Neighbor Dave this weekend and he's all in to help me do some fab and modify the solenoid mounting. These are much bigger and exit out the bottom instead of the side like the Mainline solenoids. Pretty stoked!
Posted By: n20mstr
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 12/12/22 06:20 PM
This arrived today:
It's good for up to 500 shot. I told myself I only want 50 more as in 300 shot, but we all know how that goes...
I'm burnin', I'm burnin for you! by Blue Oyster Cult keeps playing in my head.
^^^ THATS what im talking about , all i can say is retard is your friend on a BB Mopar.
I went 9.teens with a stock block so good luck
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 12/12/22 06:49 PM
This arrived today:
It's good for up to 500 shot. I told myself I only want 50 more as in 300 shot, but we all know how that goes...
I'm burnin', I'm burnin for you! by Blue Oyster Cult keeps playing in my head.
^^^ THATS what im talking about , all i can say is retard is your friend on a BB Mopar.
I went 9.teens with a stock block so good luck
My wife says I'm a giant retard and so are all my friends, so I
think we're good!
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 12/17/22 10:46 PM
Neighbor Dave and I got the bracket and lines designed and installed for solenoids today. Will pull off and paint the bracket. Still need to wire and run the -6 line but the hard part is done.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 12/18/22 09:25 PM
Bracket painted, solenoids reinstalled with teflon paste and ready to go back on the car.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 12/31/22 09:50 PM
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 01/09/23 01:35 AM
I ran the feed line today. Much bigger! It fit nicely along the edge of the rocker underneath the little things that grab the carpet. The 8" or so of braided line that connects to the solenoid stands out way too much so I'll put some black shrink tube on it. I need a -6 bottle nut and a fitting for the pressure sensor and it will be done! I'm considering a 1/4 turn ball valve to keep pressure off the solenoids and shut off the feed line. Looking for a place to conceal that but keep it handy. Maybe up under the dash?
Posted By: n20mstr
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 01/09/23 04:38 PM
THATS WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT !!!
Posted By: n20mstr
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 01/09/23 04:46 PM
Put your shut off by the shifter . And put a gauge there also . Then you can monitor pressure without it on the solenoid . Also good idea to open the valve just after the burnout , then shut it and purge after the stripe . This helps plunger life .
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 01/09/23 09:03 PM
Put your shut off by the shifter . And put a gauge there also . Then you can monitor pressure without it on the solenoid . Also good idea to open the valve just after the burnout , then shut it and purge after the stripe . This helps plunger life .
Yeah, I've seen that kind of setup before and know about the advantages, but have been struggling with whether I want that right next to the seat in my street car.
The rest of everything is hidden (other than timing controller and it's mounted with velcro) in the interior.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 01/10/23 09:38 PM
Heat shrink tube installed on the -6an nitrous feed line to help it blend in a little better!
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 01/10/23 11:26 PM
It was 60° here so connected everything to check for leaks. Pressure switch connection was leaking so I fixed that real quick. Other than that everything was fine.
I didn't heat up the bottle so pressure was way low but decided to do a couple of pulls on a 300 shot real quick like. Stabbing it in 3rd gear it hit harder than a stepdad on New Years Day!
Going to be lots of fun!
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 01/16/23 01:50 AM
While a 9.99 or better is the goal, this is the app I've used for years called Virtual Dyno to get an idea of what changes will do.
As simple as it is, it has been crazy accurate up to this point. It predicted a 10.40 and I ran a 10.40 that night off the trailer. After the 250 jetting install, it predicted 10.07 and it ran a 10.01 that night second pass off the trailer!
To keep the ball rolling, this is what it is predicting for the 300 shot. We'll see if it works out..
Posted By: 6PKRTSE
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 01/23/23 01:43 AM
Put your shut off by the shifter . And put a gauge there also . Then you can monitor pressure without it on the solenoid . Also good idea to open the valve just after the burnout , then shut it and purge after the stripe . This helps plunger life .
That is how I have both my kids plumbed also with two 1/4 ball valves and gauges as well.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 02/06/23 03:10 PM
It's been unseasonably warm the last couple of days so I took the opportunity to get out and fix a header collector that was missing a bolt and a few other small things.
One of the things I most enjoy about this car is the ability to get in and drive it anywhere. I drove it to work this morning on the interstate keeping pace with 70 mph traffic.
*edit* the pics make it look like there are dents in the roof. I had to go and look to be sure something hadn't happened! It's just something odd with the pic.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 04/11/23 08:22 PM
Trying to get ready for April 29th Mopars at Mo-Kan. It's been too cold the first couple of dates our local track was open.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 04/14/23 10:20 PM
I geek out over stuff like this!
Alternator brackets in aluminum.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 04/16/23 10:58 PM
1 lb. vs. 5.5 oz.
Huge weight loss!
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 05/01/23 01:46 AM
We did Mopars at Mo-Kan Saturday after our test and tune at MAD was rained out Friday.
First full hit on spray and it was upset, popping and banging all the way down. I got back to the pits and the #5 plug was nipped on the end. The rest were fine but had gotten a little too warm on the end. Time to step up to a couple of heat ranges colder plug. Something I planned on doing but kinda forgot about.
It still ran a 10.50 on 7 cylinders.
Posted By: n20mstr
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 05/01/23 04:51 PM
WHAT plug is in it?
I would check the cranking compression on all cyclinders, and get in the habit of doing that every outing.
Pull all the plugs, block the throttle open, (leave it open for the whole time, just cover with a rag in between tests).
Record the first pump, and then what it gets after say 7 pumps.
Keep this as a record, and compare every outing.
As i previously told you, this engine will most likely want MORE retard than you or anyone else would expect. Take 2* more out of it, if you have to put a colder plug in just that one hole also.
Sawed off straps are TOO MUCH timing period !! Dont forget that
Also , at the first "mis" or "bang"....lift, its not going to "clear up" so dont put more misfires through the pipes than you have to
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 05/01/23 07:19 PM
WHAT plug is in it?
I would check the cranking compression on all cyclinders, and get in the habit of doing that every outing.
Pull all the plugs, block the throttle open, (leave it open for the whole time, just cover with a rag in between tests).
Record the first pump, and then what it gets after say 7 pumps.
Keep this as a record, and compare every outing.
As i previously told you, this engine will most likely want MORE retard than you or anyone else would expect. Take 2* more out of it, if you have to put a colder plug in just that one hole also.
Sawed off straps are TOO MUCH timing period !! Dont forget that
Also , at the first "mis" or "bang"....lift, its not going to "clear up" so dont put more misfires through the pipes than you have to
I was big dumb and forgot it had a NGK BKR6E in it. A projected tip and way too hot.
I bought NGK r5671-8's today for it.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 05/10/23 02:52 AM
I swapped plugs for the colder, non projected tip NGK's.
I took it out of town for a couple of passes this evening. The bottle wasn't heated up and was about 75° or 800 psi. No need to be set on kill tonight. I rolled in to about 30 mph to keep from spinning and wow, smooth as glass! Two hits and virtually no issues. Looking forward to getting it to the track!
Posted By: Blusmbl
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 05/11/23 08:08 PM
Man, you need to buy a lottery ticket!! 250+ on a NGK 6? That's really great news it didn't hurt anything else.
When's the next track day?
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 05/11/23 09:03 PM
Man, you need to buy a lottery ticket!! 250+ on a NGK 6? That's really great news it didn't hurt anything else.
When's the next track day?
Yeah, feelin' kinda sheepish about that. Lots of things going on and it's a detail that I missed. It was actually a 300 shot..
As for when I will get back to the track, not sure. The track that we used to go to about every Friday or Saturday night closed this year. The next closest track is an hour away.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 05/17/23 02:15 AM
A pic from Mo-Kan.
I really wish I lived closer to this track.
Posted By: DynoDave
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 05/22/23 06:55 PM
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 06/08/23 02:07 PM
Trying to get back to the track but we've had 3 sessions rained out so far in the middle of a statewide drought (go figure!).
The Midway Nostalgia Drags in Ark City are scheduled for this weekend but the forecast is not looking good.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 06/12/23 11:28 AM
It turned out to be a perfect day for the Midway Drags Saturday!
They do things a little different in the interest of time. They take the 4 fastest runs from two qualifiers in a class and run them off for a winner. It's a heads up deal, no nitrous allowed (stupid, but whatever). I qualifed 3rd in Superstock and won first round. We were pretty close but I had a good .08 light. I lost in the final to an AMX that was running 10.70's. The 330 was super consistent running within a hundreth all day! The shifter cable got a little warm and got tight as they were hot lapping us at the end, so need to fix that.
Not bad for an old pump gas street car!
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 07/11/23 07:01 PM
I got the burned shift cable replaced and did some tuning. Timing was more retarded than I recalled so I squared that away.
Really happy with how it's running and driving now. Just need a good test and tune track day!
Posted By: BigBlockGTS
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 07/12/23 06:53 PM
I really like your car and am impressed with what you are doing with the Nitrous and stock block. I would like it either way but have to ask- any plan to paint it or is the freedom of having an unpainted car too good to give up?
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 07/12/23 08:57 PM
I really like your car and am impressed with what you are doing with the Nitrous and stock block. I would like it either way but have to ask- any plan to paint it or is the freedom of having an unpainted car too good to give up?
I go back and forth.
It is low maintenance and I can walk away from it anywhere and not worry but I would love to have it all glossy and black some day. It's a reasonably straight car so it wouldn't take a lot. I have really nice stainless that is all polished and ready to go...some day...
I have a teen that is starting college in the Fall and just bought her a car so...
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 07/17/23 04:42 AM
We finally got in some test passes and had fun his weekend!
It was warm and muggy with a DA of about 3800 and temp of around 85°.
I did a test pass n/a first and it did a much better 11.51. Not bad for the heat as most everyone was off about .3 from what they usually run.
I turned on the bottle to see if the new, colder heat range plugs were going to keep the #5 strap from melting. The car ran fine and did it's thing but it was late in the night and the prep just wasn't there after all kinds of street cars had went down. It ran a 10.74 with a lousy, spinning 1.64 60 ft. time. The pass was really smooth and a plug check revealed all was well.
We even drove it across town to Cars and Coffee at the urging of a friend that morning and it was an uneventful trip in traffic. Really not my scene but went to hang out with a good friend. I played a little on the street Friday night with a 5.0 Mustang from a roll. He took the hit and I drove around him!
Much better now that some timing issues are sorted! It's set at 36° total for n/a and pulling 10° for the nitrous. I hesitate to post these #'s not due to secrecy but so others don't duplicate them since every combo is different! I will say my jetting isn't what NX recommends but will leave that a mystery.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 08/15/23 08:45 PM
I put the hard street 275's on last night.
It's kinda sketch when they are spinning in 3rd and the wheel speed is up there!
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 11/13/23 02:30 PM
It's been a short 2023 season for me this year as in we didn't get to do much at the track.
My job keeps me busier than ever and with the closest track now an hour away, it gets increasingly difficult to get passes in to test.
The good thing is, I've been driving it around a lot more and enjoying it on the street with friends.
The plans for the winter include pulling the transmission and doing a wellness check on it. It's taken some abuse and with the power it makes, I want to make sure all is good before we do hero passes next Spring!
Posted By: Jeremiah
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 11/16/23 11:09 AM
I put the hard street 275's on last night.
It's kinda sketch when they are spinning in 3rd and the wheel speed is up there!
Cool pic!
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 12/27/23 04:38 PM
I was looking for a better dock for my DeWalt battery that powers the nitrous bottle heater. There's nothing wrong with the 3D printed one, but it made me a little nervous that it could break, so I was looking for something a little sturdier. I came across this one by gobilda that is a smart dock and has built in protections! I killed a new 20v last year by discharging it too far and all the attempts to revive it have failed. This will prevent that from happening!
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 01/04/24 08:32 PM
Got it yesterday!
Pretty cool unit.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 01/26/24 12:05 PM
Registered and approved for the Midway Drags!
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 02/15/24 11:32 PM
I decided to go back to the red 5 point harness. I sent one in to RJS Racing for re-cert and they are back all within a werk! They make it super easy to send them in, too!
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 02/26/24 01:57 AM
With the power we are putting through the relatively stock 727, I pulled it out and inspected it this weekend. Keep in mind this is after hundreds of 1/4 mile passes and thousands of street miles.
Other than the normal dusting of gray material in the pan and some of the steels starting to show heat marks it looks really good inside!
There was nothing special about the clutches and steels as they were what comes in the normal Transtar rebuild kits! I believe the heat on the steels is from the 2nd gear launches we were doing for some hard street tire stuff and unprepped events.
The plan is to upgrade to Kolene steels and Alto Eagle red clutches and throw it back in the car.
As the car gets faster, preventative maintenance is going to have to be more frequent!
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 03/05/24 05:42 PM
I was planning on replacing the front case due to a few of the bolt holes getting worn and I had another sitting on the shelf. I guess I'm replacing the tailshaft housing as well since it had an ear broken off. Fortunately a friend had one and 30 minutes after I called him I was bringing it home! New Alto Eagle clutches and Kolene steels are going back in along with new seals and gaskets!.
Posted By: Blusmbl
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 03/06/24 11:37 PM
Thar's pretty impressive how well a mostly stock 727 has held up behind your car. No billet parts or hardened shafts? Just a rebuild kit and a valve body?
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 03/07/24 03:36 AM
Thar's pretty impressive how well a mostly stock 727 has held up behind your car. No billet parts or hardened shafts? Just a rebuild kit and a valve body?
Yep! Even stock style clutches and steels until now!
It's back together and going into the car this weekend.
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 03/09/24 11:36 PM
We got it put back in the car last night. Really no issues and I drove it off the lift and the short trip to my house 4 houses away.
I drove it this afternoon and put about 30 miles on it. It feels crisper and tighter than it has in a while. Putting a new bushing in the new tailshaft also eliminated a slight vibration I had over 80 mph. It's pretty easy to get carried away on the back roads now.
I'm really excited to get it to the track!
Posted By: GY3
Re: My 63 Dodge 330 Project: - 03/11/24 01:07 AM
Smart dock installed for the nitrous bottle heater today! Works great and has an on-off switch on the base to boot!