Posted By: DieselDart73
Diesel Dart Cummins - 12/28/14 01:37 AM
Here's my project for all of you that wanted to see it done. 1973 Dart Swinger 5.9 Cummins 47RH 8 3/4 2.73
Diesel Dart Cummins
Posted By: DieselDart73
Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 12/28/14 01:39 AM
Another pic
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Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 12/28/14 01:40 AM
Ride height
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Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 12/28/14 01:41 AM
Engine bay
Posted By: NV69B7RR
Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 12/28/14 02:44 AM
Cool build!! More details please! 
Posted By: DieselDart73
Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 12/28/14 02:56 AM
Thanks for the support. It'll have a 12mm p-pump 66mm Borg Warner turbo 5x18 injectors and nitrous. The motor is out of a RV it's a 94. The trans is out of a 2wd 2500. It's 4 link from jegs out back. With a 8 3/4 and 2.73 gears full tubs s&w cage. It's been long in the making picked up the car with slant 6 in it for 900bucks. The car will be ready for the race season to race my girl and her 34 chevy cummins Ratrod. 
Posted By: DieselDart73
Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 12/28/14 03:17 AM
4 link
Posted By: chrisf
Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 12/28/14 06:32 AM
awesome!!! 900+ft lbs of torque and a 8 3/4. I have found your weak spot.. your welcome.
I like your style
I like your style
Posted By: DieselDart73
Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 12/28/14 06:57 PM
I want to keep the build as mopar/dodge as possible. I had a dana70 out of a 3500 but too big and spools are not available other then one I found. The 8 3/4 was super cheap compared to dana60 and with the spool big axles shortened length of shafts the axle should handle plenty for now....thanks for looking out for me and the build.
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Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 12/29/14 11:22 AM
Another view
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Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 12/31/14 12:37 AM
Cage going in
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Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 12/31/14 12:39 AM
Frame connecting front to rear tying cage together
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Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 12/31/14 12:59 PM
More of cage
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Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 12/31/14 01:00 PM
Cage
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 12/31/14 08:09 PM
That's a cool project!
Posted By: DieselDart73
Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 12/31/14 10:52 PM
Thanks a lot. We'll have it out your way at one of the tracks. Norwalk national trail Thompson or la rue. See it in person.
Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE
Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 12/31/14 11:08 PM
That 47 will never live. You can build it with the 48 5 -gear planetary's, but the weak link will always be the overdrive clutch/spring. You can update to a 48 overdrive, but by then, you could just use a 48...and the 48 won't live either with that torque. You've got options, but none are cheap.
Posted By: DieselDart73
Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 01/01/15 12:08 AM
I don't think I'll ever need the overdrive the gearing and tire size will keep me out of it... But any pointers or tricks to making it live longer will be appreciated. Can I keep the 47 out of OD with a manual Valve body? Thanks
Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE
Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 01/01/15 12:53 AM
Quote:
I don't think I'll ever need the overdrive the gearing and tire size will keep me out of it... But any pointers or tricks to making it live longer will be appreciated. Can I keep the 47 out of OD with a manual Valve body? Thanks
Unfortunately no. The OD units clutch is used in direct and OD. You'll still pull through the clutch with OD off.
If OD is not needed, you can just build a 727, or dare say I, a Turbo 400. The adapter on the back of the engine is available in Chevy, Ford, and Mopar. I'd say a Powerglide is out because your going to need 3 gears in the quarter with the rpm band of the engine. If your going to have one built, pick something that has gear ratios available for it. You can tailor the gear split to keep the diesel in it's narrow power band. Probably be best to check in with the Cummins truck drag race guys. They will be a lot more helpful on recommending a transmission and know what will live. I only know what won't!!
BTW, I think your going to want a lot more rear gear.
Posted By: DieselDart73
Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 01/01/15 02:05 AM
Quote:Quote:
I don't think I'll ever need the overdrive the gearing and tire size will keep me out of it... But any pointers or tricks to making it live longer will be appreciated. Can I keep the 47 out of OD with a manual Valve body? Thanks
Unfortunately no. The OD units clutch is used in direct and OD. You'll still pull through the clutch with OD off.
If OD is not needed, you can just build a 727, or dare say I, a Turbo 400. The adapter on the back of the engine is available in Chevy, Ford, and Mopar. I'd say a Powerglide is out because your going to need 3 gears in the quarter with the rpm band of the engine. If your going to have one built, pick something that has gear ratios available for it. You can tailor the gear split to keep the diesel in it's narrow power band. Probably be best to check in with the Cummins truck drag race guys. They will be a lot more helpful on recommending a transmission and know what will live. I only know what won't!!
BTW, I think your going to want a lot more rear gear.
Thanks for the info. We already have my girls truck with a powerglide adapted cummins. Fully built 2.70 gears 33x18.50s runs [Email]10.87@123mph[/Email] footbrake picks frontend off ground.
Posted By: DieselDart73
Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 01/01/15 02:16 AM
And the other truck the guy who built this one runs a 727 in it goes 11.2s all day and hasn't broke anything other then universal and pinion on the 9in. This is the first dodge trans I'm doing. I love my Mopars we have a lot in my family. Seven to be exact. I've always done the ford trans in my tow rigs most Suncoast part and precision.
Posted By: DieselDart73
Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 01/01/15 07:10 AM
Ok back to the cage. It's done now and front bars up front
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 01/02/15 03:29 AM
Quote:
Thanks a lot. We'll have it out your way at one of the tracks. Norwalk national trail Thompson or la rue. See it in person.
If it is at LaRue or National Trail I would make the tri to check it out for sure!
Posted By: DieselDart73
Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 01/02/15 07:46 PM
Quote:Quote:
Thanks a lot. We'll have it out your way at one of the tracks. Norwalk national trail Thompson or la rue. See it in person.
If it is at LaRue or National Trail I would make the tri to check it out for sure!
It'll be at laRue look up nadm for the dates. I'll have many passes on the car by the time we make it there.
Posted By: DieselDart73
Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 01/03/15 06:16 AM
Here's the narrowed up rear 
Posted By: tims69belvedere
Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 01/03/15 06:23 AM
Those rh's can live. Decent clutch packs and bands. Some had an aluminum front planet. You will need a steel front planet. I would rollerize the gear train. Billet input and intermediate shafts with the second gear updates. A light car Like that shouldn't be too hard on it. Wouldn't hurt to do a direct drum. We do these all the time. Can't hardly keep them in the shelves. One customer keeps us busy with his. 1600 hp on fuel only in a regular cab 4wd. It's a race truck but the convertor has become the weak point. Sweet build though!
Posted By: tims69belvedere
Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 01/03/15 06:32 AM
Oh and can't forget the valve body mods to have 1st and 2nd gear lockup!
Posted By: JDMopar
Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 01/03/15 09:08 PM
Cool project! I think you're gonna need some fatter torsion bars....lol.
Posted By: DieselDart73
Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 01/03/15 09:27 PM
Believe it or not those are the slant6 torsion bars. Lol being that the engine is moved back as far as it is it's really stiff up front. It's really amazing. Well test it and see where to go from there.
Posted By: JDMopar
Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 01/03/15 09:44 PM
You can buy bigger bars if needed. I would gusset the torsion bar frame stubs that are left, if you aren't going to tie the torsion bar cross member back together. With the motor scooted back, you may not have room to tie it back together. As long as the remaining sections of the torsion bar x member won't twist, they will be fine. It'd be hell to come down from a hard wheels up launch....and the drivers side torsion bar jab you in the back of your left leg! 
Posted By: DieselDart73
Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 01/03/15 10:04 PM
How's this look?
Posted By: JDMopar
Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 01/03/15 10:12 PM
Awesome! Is that a motor mount/ plate towards the mid to rear of the engine?
Posted By: DieselDart73
Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 01/03/15 10:42 PM
Yes it's coming along
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Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 01/05/15 08:04 PM
Here's the strengthened 8 3/4 and narrowed
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Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 01/05/15 08:05 PM
Another view 8 3/4 narrowed
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Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 01/05/15 09:23 PM
With 4 link attached
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Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 01/06/15 04:51 AM
Rear end mock up and coilovers back half
Posted By: JS29R0B
Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 01/06/15 02:57 PM
Looking good!
Posted By: DieselDart73
Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 01/20/15 05:16 PM
Engine bay prepped for paint
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Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 01/20/15 05:17 PM
Painted up 
Posted By: JS29R0B
Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 01/21/15 02:51 PM
Cool...Do you come to the diesel drags in Bowling Green KY?
Posted By: DieselDart73
Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 01/21/15 04:15 PM
Yes we will be there love that track!
Posted By: DieselDart73
Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 01/21/15 04:18 PM
That pic was taken 2 years ago haven't seen that car since that race tho. There's a video on YouTube of our truck and it racing. Pretty cool
Posted By: JS29R0B
Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 01/21/15 08:10 PM
I think I spoke with your wife asking what rear was in the truck.
It is a ford 9 inch.
It is a ford 9 inch.
Posted By: JS29R0B
Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 01/21/15 08:17 PM
Not to hijack your post but you might have seen my truck there before.
I didn't own it when it was there but I do now
I didn't own it when it was there but I do now
Posted By: DieselDart73
Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 01/25/15 05:06 PM
Oh yea I remember seeing that truck rolling around.
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Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 01/25/15 05:08 PM
The wheels came yesterday from Weld!
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Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 01/25/15 05:09 PM
15x14
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Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 01/25/15 05:11 PM
The rear axle in place now just waiting for rear brake kit and axles to come
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Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 01/27/15 10:32 PM
The engine is getting back together first coat of paint.
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Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 01/28/15 02:29 AM
Looking better
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Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 01/31/15 05:10 AM
Fuel cell and battery mounted up
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Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 01/31/15 05:11 AM
Getting ready to mount up slicks
Posted By: DieselDart73
Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 01/31/15 05:12 AM
Fuel pump came too
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Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 02/02/15 03:06 PM
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Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 02/06/15 03:19 AM
Axles came today
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Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 02/12/15 04:35 AM
Rear and disc brakes installed
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Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 02/12/15 04:36 AM
Putting engine and trans back in to do firewall tunnel and floor
Posted By: HemiChallenger
Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 02/14/15 03:47 PM
I like the concept here... Where are you in Pa?
Posted By: DieselDart73
Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 02/16/15 10:53 PM
I'm in kutztown. It's being built up in mt Pocono. Thanks for the support.
Posted By: DieselDart73
Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 02/26/15 05:02 AM
Ok I ditched the wilwood brake kit and went with doctor diff 11.75 disc kit fit great thanks again.
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Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 02/26/15 05:06 AM
Slicks fit perfect
Posted By: DieselDart73
Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 02/26/15 05:10 AM
Goodyears
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Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 02/26/15 05:11 AM
More pics
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Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 02/26/15 05:12 AM
Thru the trunk
Posted By: DieselDart73
Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 02/26/15 06:27 PM
Rear disc setup
Posted By: JS29R0B
Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 02/26/15 07:35 PM
Looking Great!
Posted By: DieselDart73
Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 02/26/15 08:41 PM
Front discs on drum spindle
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Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 03/02/15 05:24 PM
Doing exhaust short and sweet
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Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 03/02/15 05:25 PM
In place fits great
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Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 03/02/15 05:27 PM
Fender view
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Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 03/02/15 05:29 PM
Down the side
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Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 03/10/15 09:42 PM
The engine with pump and turbo on. Removable wiper cowl for access to motor
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Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 03/10/15 09:44 PM
Firewall and trans tunnel coming along 
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Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 03/12/15 04:14 PM
Floor finished
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Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 03/15/15 07:12 PM
Finished tubs
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Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 03/15/15 07:17 PM
Tubs
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Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 03/15/15 07:18 PM
Inside view
Posted By: JS29R0B
Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 03/16/15 02:27 PM
Nice! You work fast
Posted By: DieselDart73
Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 03/16/15 06:17 PM
It'll be pouring smoke and melting tires in no time! April hopefully 
Posted By: DieselDart73
Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 03/19/15 01:16 AM
Rear firewall finished up 
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Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 03/21/15 09:59 PM
Painted up
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Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 03/21/15 10:07 PM
Front
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Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 03/28/15 11:31 PM
Trunk
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Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 03/28/15 11:33 PM
Dash cluster
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Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 03/28/15 11:34 PM
Rear setup
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Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 03/29/15 03:48 AM
Some of the body work passenger side and new ride height
Posted By: DieselDart73
Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 03/29/15 03:50 AM
Driver side body work shaved marker lights for custom led
Posted By: JS29R0B
Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 04/16/15 02:15 PM
Any updates?
Posted By: DieselDart73
Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 08/03/15 08:54 PM
Yea the car made its first burnout on 8/1 in crossville Tennessee
Posted By: DieselDart73
Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 08/03/15 08:56 PM
Second try
Posted By: JS29R0B
Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 08/05/15 07:21 PM
Awesome......
Posted By: DieselDart73
Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 08/05/15 07:36 PM
Yea didn't get any good passes the brakes were terrible. Guess you can't use a drum brake master cylinder for disc brakes lol. Got new master cylinder going to test next weekend and hope for nitrous passes too
Posted By: JS29R0B
Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 08/06/15 01:53 PM
Cool I would like to see a vid of a clean pass. I hope you will have it at Bowling Green next year.
Posted By: upnover
Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 08/23/15 04:10 AM
thats one evil looking car, love it.
Posted By: DieselDart73
Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 09/26/22 03:42 AM
Ok so I’ve been off for a long time but the car finally came back home.
Posted By: DieselDart73
Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 09/26/22 03:44 AM
Four days later.
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Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 09/26/22 03:45 AM
Some more pics
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Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 09/26/22 03:50 AM
More.
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Re: Diesel Dart Cummins - 09/26/22 03:51 AM
Dyno
