1970 RoadRunner SRT8

Posted By: Darius

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 08/31/12 04:30 PM

Here is a pic...lots more at the link and tons more on my thumbdrive if you are interested PM me.

Attached picture 7358572-Dashinstallshots012.jpg

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 09/14/12 04:50 PM

Thanks Darius, I appreciate the offer of help.

Been slacking on pics. I have a few, but need to upload the others to show progress. I'll try and do that this weekend.

So here is the floor section that will replace the RR's:

It comes out like this:

leaving this:

Did some preliminary fit to see how things would line up:

Posted By: Furious65

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 10/10/12 12:55 AM

Really cool build! I am eager to see it completed!

Posted By: NV69B7RR

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 10/10/12 02:31 PM

More please!!

I'll be following this thread, your work is amazing!

Posted By: roadrunninMark

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 10/10/12 03:33 PM

this is gonna be an awesome post to follow!

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 10/10/12 10:17 PM

Thanks guys,

Heres a few more pics.

Painted the floor section. If you've ever sprayed inside a car, you'll know why. I'll go back and repaint once everything is finish welded.

I removed the inner rocker section and am prepping it for the square tube. Side impacts will not be an issue!

The new Chargers floor section is actually 4" narrower than the old RR's floor. This worked out well because I can use a 2"x5" box beam welded to the rocker to "fill" in the space. This will give great rigidity to the body as well as offer some side impact protection over the old RR. These are still mock up picks.

More mockup of the front rails.

Posted By: RoadRunnerJD

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 10/11/12 02:14 AM

Will the dash frame fit in the Runner?

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 10/11/12 01:29 PM

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Will the dash frame fit in the Runner?

Absolutely. That is why I chose to use the firewall. The customer wants the full SRT8 interior.

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 10/13/12 04:34 PM

A few more...

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Posted By: moparpollack

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 10/13/12 10:20 PM

Looks easier than it is in real life.

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 10/13/12 11:16 PM

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Looks easier than it is in real life.

If everyone really knew how much work this stuff actually takes. Sometimes you just got to do it because you think it's cool and take a haircut on the labor.

Posted By: Triple Threat

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 10/16/12 11:11 PM

This is some amazing work

Posted By: mymcodebee

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 10/18/12 04:00 PM

Great post. I will doing a conversion with a 68 charger r/t that has a non existent bottom section. Please keep the pics coming..

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 10/18/12 05:10 PM

Thanks guys.

It's definitely been challenging.

My goal was to keep this car looking like a muscle car. Keep it low and on 18" wheels. I looked at some others doing this, and they simply set the shell on the stripped off LX chassis. They all looked like 4 wheel drives. Even with 22" wheels it still sat waaayyyy to high. I chose to replace the pan and rails and set this thing at a pre-dertemined ride height. Now I know why they set them that high!! It makes for a ton of extra work to set this thing low, but stance is everything!!

Posted By: Jambbii

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 10/21/12 03:51 AM

Craig,

Keep the post coming. I love both of your builds!

Josh

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 10/22/12 09:41 PM

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Craig,

Keep the post coming. I love both of your builds!

Josh

Thanks Josh,

I don't hate the Roadrunner yet. It's fighting, but so far I'm winning. See what happens in the next round!

Posted By: Chally426

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 10/23/12 02:03 AM

I know this is a broad question but, What would something like this cost, lets say no body work or paint, just the structural stuff and a running driver...

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 10/23/12 02:21 PM

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I know this is a broad question but, What would something like this cost, lets say no body work or paint, just the structural stuff and a running driver...

If you dropped off your car and said make it an SRT8 inside and out, you'd be north of 30K. That is me providing the donor car and you picking up a running driving car, less exterior body and paint. I finish paint the engine compartment, trunk, and interior so everything can stay mounted and undercoat the bottom. I'm guessing the owner of this car will probably be in around 55k when done, but I don't know the shop that's doing the P&B, so I don't know the quality.

That being said, I know guys who have spent that easily in a resto stock RR. At the end of the day that resto car is not really a driver, but a "sit in front of it in a lawn chair" car at a local parking lot. You always know when a local car show is happening because of the the old cars in the slow lane at 55mph and 3500 rpm heading their, leaving ten car lengths between others so if the KIA slams on brakes they won't rearend it. I've been their, my customer has been their, and this is what he wanted for a solution. I think it will be a fun and enjoyable car, something you can drive everyday.

Posted By: Chally426

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 10/24/12 01:02 AM

Wow...That seems fair if your supplying the donor car..I would think you would have better than 20 stuffing a motor, trans, suspension in my car and getting to the point to run and drive...

My car is a 71 barracuda convertible, can it be structurally done with a convert...?

Posted By: a12superbee

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 10/24/12 07:59 AM

I'd agree, 30k sounds pretty fair if you want something you can put 50,000 miles on.

Posted By: roadrunninMark

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 11/28/12 01:59 AM

Any updates?

Posted By: rapidtransitrick

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 12/15/12 08:40 PM

can't wait to see more!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 12/24/12 08:28 PM

Sorry guys,

In the middle on moving my shop. Wasn't planning it, but it came up for sale and couldn't pass it up. Thankfully it's right behind me!! The "new" 4000 sq. ft. back shop is where I will set up the projects, fabrication, and my 'Cuda. It also gives me an additional 2600 sq. ft. of offices/waiting area/conference room, etc (which are full of painted 'Cuda parts!)... I'll keep the late model mechanical in my current building, so progress is stalled for a bit.

Posted By: dangina

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 12/25/12 07:32 AM

fantastic work! i'll be following this thread for future ideas!

Posted By: rapidtransitrick

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 12/26/12 11:39 PM

more space. how cool is that

Posted By: Keith Black®

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 12/27/12 03:01 AM

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Now the RoadRunner. Rear suspension out, engine, trans, and front cradle/suspension out. Body is on air jacks, and the tires (not wheels) that the RR will wear are set under the body. I move the body up and down until the customer is happy with the stance, and then lock it down.

Hey Craig.. what are those wheels / size ..? cheers Darren

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 12/28/12 06:29 PM

Those are AR Torq-Thrust II's that actually go on my 'Cuda. They are 18X10 fronts and 18X11 rears.

Posted By: Keith Black®

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 12/28/12 08:51 PM

they look great

Posted By: rapidtransitrick

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 03/26/13 01:01 AM

how is it coming along?

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 03/29/13 02:43 PM

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how is it coming along?

Had the opportunity to buy another building for a shop extension. That has taken precedent the last few months.

This car is scheduled to have work started again on Monday. So I should have a few more pics at the end of next week.

Thanks, Craig

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 04/04/13 10:32 PM

Been doing a little work this week. Roughed in the dash.

This is just to build the mounts for the dash frame. The pad will still need to be tweaked and upholstered. More on that later. Still just fitting!!

Removed the rear floor section.

Leaving only this...

Cut it in half and called the junk man...

Pretty sure were at the point of no return now!

Fit the kick panel plates. This attaches the firewall to the existing inner structure. This allows me to mount the E-brake pedal and locate the wire pass through for the doors. Still working here.

Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 04/05/13 12:34 AM

Damn! that's a lot of work. Why didn't you do the scrap yourself, it would have paid for a couple nice lunches. Nice work so far.

Posted By: 300by500

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 04/09/13 01:01 AM

Posted By: rapidtransitrick

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 04/14/13 10:52 PM

we need more butter on that popcorn great progress!!!!

Posted By: Chally426

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 04/15/13 02:48 AM

I am SO going to hire you to do this to my 71 barracuda convertible...

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 04/15/13 08:22 PM

Thanks guys!!

Will be squeezing sometime this week to do some more. Going to finish tying in the front before cutting the back out. Stay tuned.

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 04/23/13 02:29 PM

Little more work. Cowl is tied in. Starting on the aprons.

Posted By: demon1515

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 04/23/13 07:48 PM

Oh my God that is a whole lot of work, but it is just perfect and if i got the $$$ to something similar i would to awesome job cant wait to see mor pictures!

Posted By: moparpollack

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 04/24/13 02:45 AM

As said before looks easier on the Internet than real life.

Posted By: 70B5Cuda

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 04/24/13 03:04 AM

Very cool project. Is the ride height in the first couple pictures what you are shooting for? Also, the 30k estimate-is that expecting the exterior to be straight and solid before beginning?

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 04/24/13 08:31 PM

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Oh my God that is a whole lot of work, but it is just perfect and if i got the $$$ to something similar i would to awesome job cant wait to see mor pictures!

Thanks,

Working on this between projects, so progress goes in spurts.

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 04/24/13 08:34 PM

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As said before looks easier on the Internet than real life.

Yeah, sometimes I look through some pics of other builds and think, "that shouldn't take but a few hours..." and then I remember doing something similar that takes a full day or more. Hours just rack up stupid fast.

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 04/24/13 08:41 PM

Quote:

Very cool project. Is the ride height in the first couple pictures what you are shooting for? Also, the 30k estimate-is that expecting the exterior to be straight and solid before beginning?

Thanks,

Yes that is the stance the customer wanted. We played with it a few hours and that's what he decided on.

That's north of 30K, and yes, assuming a good candidate car. Don't care if it's straight (no unibody damage!!) but panels need to line up pretty good before starting. It would need to have excellent rockers, cowl, wheelhouses, and drop offs. Anything that needed to be repaired would be an additional expense.

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 04/24/13 08:47 PM

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I am SO going to hire you to do this to my 71 barracuda convertible...

I sometimes kick my self in the ass for suggesting this to the customer in the first place!!

Once I get the front finished and in epoxy, I'll consider that a major hurdle. I'll forget what a pain in the ass it was by the time I'm finishing and probably take on another!!

Posted By: rapidtransitrick

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 04/25/13 11:42 PM

working out really well. they do become frustrating through out the process. but when you get to the end, there is always great satisfaction a relief.

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 04/29/13 07:36 PM

The inner upper support panel. I've tied the rocker end into the floor beam.

Outer fit and welded in

backside boxed and tied to cowl

Going to tie all of this into the hinge support

Boxed as well. Their will be a bridge panel between here and the hinge support

Front plated and tied in

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 04/29/13 10:31 PM

And the filler that ties everything into the hinge post.

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 04/30/13 02:59 PM

Forgot one.

Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 05/01/13 04:45 AM

Nice work. How is that apron going to work compared to the original?

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 05/01/13 01:59 PM

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Nice work. How is that apron going to work compared to the original?

The SRT apron is the support structure for the strut towers. It sits about midway under the fender. The close out panel I built attaches to it further in and provides the mount for the fender (the pic with the cardboard template). This works well, as I will be able to attach the SRT splash shield in the wheel well to the Road Runner fender.

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 05/01/13 02:15 PM

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Nice work. How is that apron going to work compared to the original?

This might give you a better idea. Panel is not attached yet.

Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 05/01/13 03:29 PM

Yes, I remember seeing the other pics now. You definitely are an inspiration to a lot of folk. Great work.

Posted By: rapidtransitrick

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 05/02/13 11:54 PM

great work it'll definitely be a better car.

Posted By: Force28x

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 05/07/13 09:10 PM

Craig, this is just amazing work.
What vehicle did the 'green' parts come from?

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 05/09/13 05:01 PM

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Craig, this is just amazing work.
What vehicle did the 'green' parts come from?

Thanks,

The parts that are green are from the SRT8. I epoxied everything after removing it (and painted the interior floor blue). The black parts are new SRT8 sheet metal, and the remaining red parts are from the SRT8 that didn't get epoxied yet. I'll go back and blast all the weld areas and epoxy everything again when done.

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 05/09/13 05:14 PM

Starting on the other side. Need to replace the frame rail first.

Then I can start fitting the strut tower.

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 05/09/13 06:13 PM

Starting to fit inner apron.

Posted By: rapidtransitrick

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 05/11/13 12:38 AM

as always you leave us wanting to see more

Posted By: Force28x

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 05/11/13 02:20 PM

So when will the dimensional drawings of the suspension cradle be available?

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 05/13/13 07:39 PM

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as always you leave us wanting to see more

I'm trying!! Going to fit the rear section in the next week I hope. Need to get the suspension hung to measure for wheels. Lead time is 4-6 weeks to be custom built. Thank god I'm not on a deadline!

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 05/13/13 08:32 PM

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So when will the dimensional drawings of the suspension cradle be available?

It's all stock LX stuff. Don't think the cradle would help without the strut towers and stock LX suspension.

Posted By: Force28x

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 05/14/13 01:44 AM

I'm excited to see how the interior/trunk goes together. This is just an incredibly cool thing all the way around!

Posted By: Force28x

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 05/29/13 08:37 PM

Okay, new questions.

1) Did you replace the front rails because they moved in relationship to the stock charger firewall, or because they were damaged? They look like they are in their stock placement after welding the replacements.

2) Since you used the stock 'set' of the suspension, I'm assuming the inner apron height is close to stock. Is that a correct assumption?

Thanks in advance!

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 05/29/13 10:37 PM

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Okay, new questions.

1) Did you replace the front rails because they moved in relationship to the stock charger firewall, or because they were damaged? They look like they are in their stock placement after welding the replacements.

2) Since you used the stock 'set' of the suspension, I'm assuming the inner apron height is close to stock. Is that a correct assumption?

Thanks in advance!

1)Yes, the stock rails were damaged. I had them straightened on the frame machine and then built the jigs. They locate the front floor section, so I needed it tied into the RR before they could be replaced.

2)Everything from the SRT8 is stock and in the stock location. That's why jigs are critical. All suspension and mounts are in exactly the same locations. Nothing modified. The only modifications will be a shortened drive shaft and a little trim off the front floor sections' back to get the wheel base right.

The strut towers were removed to fit the floor section and because they have to come off to replace the rails.

Posted By: Force28x

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 05/29/13 10:50 PM

Thanks, Craig, that is a big help. I'm thinking about using an R/T as a suspension donor, and I drive an '06 Daytona, so I can use it for ride height dimensions and jigs. I appreciate your answers, I can assume a lot from pictures, but hearing it from the source is a lot better.
Can't wait to see more progress.

Posted By: dangina

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 05/31/13 06:32 AM

subscribed! I'll be keeping a close eye on this!

Posted By: fez340

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 06/02/13 04:34 AM

ill be watching this for sure! amazing build!

Posted By: 68SportSatvert

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 06/08/13 04:34 AM

AMAZING! What color did you paint the floor and who is the manufacturer and what is the paint code? Thanks!

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 06/17/13 10:43 PM

Just plain old B5 boring (sorry) blue. B5 guys start the hate mail!! I've talked him into a Subaru blue that is very close to B5, will a little more pop, for the outside.

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 06/17/13 10:45 PM

Their is like 50 variants of B5. This is Dupont. I don't have the can in front of me, but I can find the variant code if you'd like?

Posted By: Silver70

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 06/18/13 07:20 PM

Definitely one of my favorite builds here

I'm way too impatient for that much work though

Posted By: Chally426

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 06/18/13 07:22 PM

Was nice talking to you Craig, sure hope we can work things out as far as my 71 barracuda convert..

Posted By: rapidtransitrick

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 07/04/13 12:08 AM

surf blue is a nice updated version of the b5 blue

Posted By: dickdale

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 08/12/13 01:51 PM

How is it going with this project???

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 10/04/13 10:24 PM

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How is it going with this project???

Started back on this one. You can see I've moved it to the back shop.

Started by prepping the rockers to accept the extension of the frame rail. I pie cut it so I could fully weld the two pieces together

Their is a box channel above the cut that is the inner structure of the RR. I will tie into it.

Just enough room for the window regulator to fully retract. Fully welded sub structure ready for the rear pan.

This is the inner part that I have notched for rail. I've seen others do these cars, recently in Mopar Muscle. I don't want to take anything away from the effort that was put forth, but I'd be concerned with the structure of the cars being built by being skinned. I've studied engineering, but am not an engineer, but understand it. The frame rail section on the LX car is THE integral part of the structure that everything attaches to. It provides the beaming strength of the chassis and transfers the loads front to rear and vice versa. It also is the side impact structure. When they skin these cars, they are cutting away the outer structure of the beam and then using the donor cars 18 gauge rockers to re-complete the beam. That's not ideal. The LX structure is two and 3 layers deep and 14+ gauge. I chose to install the frame beams that attach to the floor sections and to the body. The RR shell does not have to provide the beaming strength for the chassis or vice versa. They do add weight, and I have erred to the side of strength, but I feel it's worth it for safety and chassis rigidity.

Still fitting, but you can see this will attach to the inner structure of the RR.

The rear suspension and jig are what locate the rear floor section. Will post pics when I get that under and start welding this in.

Posted By: a12superbee

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 10/05/13 03:59 AM

Always look forward to seeing your posts and progress pictures.
Can I ask how many cars you've done, or years building them in order to reach this level?
You make it look easy and that only comes with a lot of hours behind it.

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 10/07/13 01:24 PM

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Always look forward to seeing your posts and progress pictures.
Can I ask how many cars you've done, or years building them in order to reach this level?
You make it look easy and that only comes with a lot of hours behind it.

Hi Mark,

I've always been building something for 25 years. It always seems the ones that look easy are the hardest. Pictures will always make everything look easy! Look at the build shows on TV. Condense 300 man hours in 30 minutes!

Posted By: a12superbee

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 10/08/13 08:11 AM

Quality always shows in the final product, you've done some amazing fab work.

Posted By: rapidtransitrick

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 10/14/13 12:11 AM

glad this is gaining momentum

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 10/14/13 02:14 PM

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Quality always shows in the final product, you've done some amazing fab work.

Thanks, hope to get a block of time towards the end of the month to get back on it. It's amazing that just the few pics ate up 45+ hours.

Posted By: brads70

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 11/02/13 12:45 AM

Wow very cool build!

Posted By: Darius

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 11/07/13 04:11 AM

Awesome build. By far the best body swap I've seen. I am doing it the opposite by fitting the Charger into the existing GTX and I thought that was tough!.
Right on with the time....took me 32 hours just to get the steering column to work correct!

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 11/07/13 02:22 PM

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Wow very cool build!

Thanks. Going to try and block a week close to Thanksgiving and get this thing rolling.

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 11/07/13 02:36 PM

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Awesome build. By far the best body swap I've seen. I am doing it the opposite by fitting the Charger into the existing GTX and I thought that was tough!.
Right on with the time....took me 32 hours just to get the steering column to work correct!

Thanks Darius. I've been watching yours as well. Nice job!

I'm sticking firm that this is not a body swap, but rather putting the SRT in the RR. It's probably just semantics, but I feel this maintains the structural integrity much better as the car is built in "layers" and not just a shell welded to a skinned chassis.

Posted By: KatFysh

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 11/22/13 10:46 PM

AWESOME.. I was "directed" here from the general section.. duuhh me..

I LOVE what you are doing. Not until about 3 weeks ago did I think of looking at wrecked, newer Gen Challengers for my '70 Barracuda.. NOW, I am watching this post like

.. Your Barracuda build is/was excellent..This one REALLY has my attention..

I've taken measurements from a 2010 Challenger but have yet to compare them to my '70. Do you think I'd be better off with a Charger over the Challenger if/when I make up my mind to do this.. I've been around a few welders/torches/grinders/frame jigs etc etc to not be afraid to take something like this on..The final product may not be as award winning as yours but I could hang close..

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 11/24/13 08:43 PM

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AWESOME.. I was "directed" here from the general section.. duuhh me.. I LOVE what you are doing. Not until about 3 weeks ago did I think of looking at wrecked, newer Gen Challengers for my '70 Barracuda.. NOW, I am watching this post like .. Your Barracuda build is/was excellent..This one REALLY has my attention..

I've taken measurements from a 2010 Challenger but have yet to compare them to my '70. Do you think I'd be better off with a Charger over the Challenger if/when I make up my mind to do this.. I've been around a few welders/torches/grinders/frame jigs etc etc to not be afraid to take something like this on..The final product may not be as award
winning as yours but I could hang close..

Thanks. I don't know the wheelbase of any of these vehicles off the top of my head, but either platform will probably need tweaking. The LX is an auto trans, and the LC can take a T56 manual, so include that in your decision.

Posted By: KatFysh

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 11/25/13 01:44 AM

so because you're hacking it apart and have the tubing pieces on the sides, the actual measurements of the donor car doesn't matter much???!!! A friend of mine thought that the Charger would be better to use. Possibly easier to come by, cheaper for replacement parts,etc etc??

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 11/25/13 05:07 PM

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so because you're hacking it apart and have the tubing pieces on the sides, the actual measurements of the donor car doesn't matter much???!!! A friend of mine thought that the Charger would be better to use. Possibly easier to come by, cheaper for replacement parts,etc etc??

Sort of... Your not hacking it, you need to drill the spot welds at the front and rear pan joint. Your going to shorten the front pan to accommodate the wheel base. You are drilling the spots where the floor pan connects to the side rails as well. The tubing on the sides becomes the new side rails, so the pans stay intact and the same width as either donor car. I'm sure the LX cars are cheaper simply because they are older.

Posted By: KatFysh

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 11/25/13 10:08 PM

Don't mean "hacking" in a negative way.. Just a general phrase.. I've seen by your pics {and I know better} that you've drilled the spot welds. That's the only way to do it correctly..I am going to find a Charger and take some measurements of the body panels front to back and side to side for comparison of the Challenger. In the meantime, I'll check online for dimensional measurements {body shop} comparisons between the 2, for shiggels and gits..Do you mind if I ask,inquire,look for advisement,etc etc, in the future with certain aspects of the build if I go this direction?

Posted By: WyleECoyote

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 12/04/13 04:05 AM

Wow!

Unbelievable Craig, thank you for your dedication to sharing this work here in cyber-world AFTER a long days work of fabricating.

I'll be calling you soon about an EASY project in comparison to see if you're interested in taking on the job.

Thanks again for sharing!

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 12/09/13 04:34 AM

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Wow!
Unbelievable Craig, thank you for your dedication to sharing this work here in cyber-world AFTER a long days work of fabricating.

I'll be calling you soon about an EASY project in comparison to see if you're interested in taking on the job.

Thanks again for sharing!

Sure. I've scheduled two weeks to knock out a significant portion starting next Monday.
Hope to get done with the structural and on to the fun stuff of making it drive.

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 12/21/13 09:47 PM

Working on this one again. Tied the rear frame rails into the bumper support pads on the pan and then connected the pan to the RR with new panels to make the transition. Still looks rough, but work in progress!!

Posted By: mymcodebee

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 12/23/13 09:09 PM

Nice Transition!!!

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 12/24/13 06:02 PM

Quote:

Nice Transition!!!

Thanks. Finishing tying in the inner structure, hinge supports (modified and reused the stock RR), and mocking up the rear seats. They will need to be cut down about 4" if you want to see out the back window!

Posted By: KatFysh

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 12/24/13 06:34 PM

Will that back glass clear?? Awesome work. Thank you for posting the progress pics. They will be very helpful to many..You are inspiring me, to say the least.. Merry Christmas to you and yours..

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 12/24/13 07:13 PM

Quote:

Will that back glass clear?? Awesome work. Thank you for posting the progress pics. They will be very helpful to many..You are inspiring me, to say the least.. Merry Christmas to you and yours..

Thanks and Merry Christmas.
No the seats will be cut down 4" when it goes to upholstery. The owner new it would be an issue that would require mods. Remember the fuel tank is under the back seat and the LX car has a taller roof (believe it or not!), which is why the rear seat backs sit so tall.

Posted By: moparlulu

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 01/17/14 07:24 AM

Between this and your cuda....wow,wow, wow! Awesome fabrication skills!

Posted By: dragula426

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 01/17/14 03:40 PM

this build and the cuda build make myself and the stuff we do seem cavemanish!!!! awesome job!

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 01/17/14 07:16 PM

Quote:

Between this and your cuda....wow,wow, wow! Awesome fabrication skills!

Thanks! Now lets see which one burns gas first!

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 01/17/14 07:19 PM

Quote:

this build and the cuda build make myself and the stuff we do seem cavemanish!!!! awesome job!

Thanks, but that car of yours is sweet! A couple of throttle bodies and a Holley HP setup with boost control would make that 496 of yours pure like a kitten!

Posted By: Force28x

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 01/20/14 06:39 PM

This is just breathtaking. It's been a while since I harassed you with my inquiries, so...
I know that you used the mock-up body/wheels to locate body ride height.
Did that also determine wheelbase?
Did the LX wheelbase remain the same?
If not, where did you take that out of the floor?
Did you just overlap front and rear floors until you met the rear suspension position to achieve proper w/b?
Sorry, just trying to absorb everything I can.
I swear, If I was closer, I would beg for a tour.

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 01/20/14 08:09 PM

Quote:

This is just breathtaking. It's been a while since I harassed you with my inquiries, so...
I know that you used the mock-up body/wheels to locate body ride height.
Did that also determine wheelbase?
Did the LX wheelbase remain the same?
If not, where did you take that out of the floor?
Did you just overlap front and rear floors until you met the rear suspension position to achieve proper w/b?
Sorry, just trying to absorb everything I can.
I swear, If I was closer, I would beg for a tour.

No problem. I measured ride height with the stock SRT wheels. Measured overall diameter of the tires of the SRT and what the Roadrunner will use. Subtract this, divide in half and adjust jigs accordingly.

I used the wheels and tires that the RR will use and adjusted front and back in the wheel openings until the owner was happy. That determined the new wheel base. The front floor section sits under the rear and is spot welded from the factory. I took the difference between the two wheel bases and trimmed the front floor section the corresponding amount. Then overlapped it and welded it like the factory had it.

Posted By: Force28x

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 01/21/14 03:52 PM

Thanks for sharing that info, one more inquiry and back to lurking...
The dash. Did you get a picture from the top when you 'test-fit' the dash?
I'm curious about HVAC and if there is going to be some re-routing needed because of the lack of dash real estate.
I finally have a frame coming in the next two weeks. I may actually get this thing started this summer.
As always, wonderful work and thanks for sharing your experience.
John

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 01/21/14 08:27 PM

Quote:

Thanks for sharing that info, one more inquiry and back to lurking...
The dash. Did you get a picture from the top when you 'test-fit' the dash?
I'm curious about HVAC and if there is going to be some re-routing needed because of the lack of dash real estate.
I finally have a frame coming in the next two weeks. I may actually get this thing started this summer.
As always, wonderful work and thanks for sharing your experience.
John

Yep, you lose about 6" off the front of the dash. The defrost duct will need to be reworked along with ducts or channel added to the dash to blow on the windshield.

Posted By: KatFysh

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 01/22/14 04:10 AM

how much would the difference in depth be between the RR and the Cuda. I'm thinking that the Cuda would have the needed depth for all that is behind the Charger dash??!! Correct?

Posted By: Darius

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 01/22/14 05:32 AM

Quote:

how much would the difference in depth be between the RR and the Cuda. I'm thinking that the Cuda would have the needed depth for all that is behind the Charger dash??!! Correct?

I fit everything from an o7 Charger under my 70 GTX dash. Eliminated the side window vent and modified the plenums to redirect the hose. Lots of pics here, you will have to scroll thru the pages to find them though

http://www.forbbodiesonly.com/moparforum/showthread.php?1121-B-Body-stiffening

Posted By: Force28x

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 01/22/14 03:04 PM

Thanks, Darius, that build is sweet.

Posted By: Force28x

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 01/31/14 08:07 PM

Craig, did you cover over the trunk extensions, or did they go away for the new trunk floor?

Posted By: KatFysh

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 03/23/14 05:09 AM

Really hope work has continued with this.. I'm sure I'm not the only waiting on updates and more pics...

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 03/28/14 06:08 PM

Back on this.

Originally I wanted to try and use the front core support.

This pic shows it nose high, but it's rolling!

That wasn't going to work, so I used the upper rail for a little new/old continuity and started fabbing a core support.

Still in progress, but hoping to button up the engine compartment this weekend.

Posted By: KatFysh

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 03/28/14 09:50 PM

NO pics..

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 03/29/14 12:45 AM

RS inner panel with attachments for forward fender mount.

Haven't figured out how I will the finish the outside just yet.

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 03/29/14 10:35 PM

Starting the other side.

Posted By: johnscudashop

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 03/29/14 10:54 PM

Looking Good Craig....

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 03/29/14 11:18 PM

Quote:

I NO pics..

How about now?

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 03/30/14 12:51 AM

Quote:

Looking Good Craig....

Thanks John. Waiting to see yours done�.!

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 04/02/14 04:29 PM

Few more�

Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 04/03/14 03:08 AM

Nice work, looks really good.

Posted By: KatFysh

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 04/05/14 03:51 PM

Yep.. I see them..AWESOME. I have a couple of questions {of course}..Radiator mounting; do you have set that low do to the height of the thermostat? It looks like the bottom of the rad is going to be lowest point. That can't be good?? The little corner tab under the header panel; are you using those to tie the inner fender structure to the header panel? Can you show a better pic of those uncovered? I assume they are welded in position?

I'm loving it. If I can get my wifes mind off selling my Cuda, there may be hope of me doing a similar project in the future..Keep the pics coming.. I'll be using them to convince her..lol..

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 04/07/14 04:40 PM

Quote:

Yep.. I see them..AWESOME. I have a couple of questions {of course}..Radiator mounting; do you have set that low do to the height of the thermostat? It looks like the bottom of the rad is going to be lowest point. That can't be good??

That is the original setup of the Charger. They mount it low to slope the hood for aero. It is still above the cradle. It is low compared to the RR's original position, but where I want it for the factory front belly pan. I'll make a small spoiler behind the bumper to connect the belly pan to. This will help direct air around the front tires without it "stacking up" and pushing up on the front bumper. Areo and handling was the last thing considered for these cars 40+ years ago. I need to direct as much air around the car instead of allowing that huge volume to get under it.

Quote:

The little corner tab under the header panel; are you using those to tie the inner fender structure to the header panel? Can you show a better pic of those uncovered? I assume they are welded in position?

Those are the original fender braces. They were square, and I just made a triangle. They are needed to support the fender shape, so I just slotted the inner fender panel to accommodate them.

Quote:

I'm loving it. If I can get my wifes mind off selling my Cuda, there may be hope of me doing a similar project in the future..Keep the pics coming.. I'll be using them to convince her..lol..

I'm getting closer on the car and starting to get into the stuff that will show real progress. I am liking it, and would actually love to keep it. Still on the fence about doing another. I was WAAAYYY to cheap on this one.

Posted By: KatFysh

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 04/10/14 04:27 PM

I am glad that you are posting the pics of what you are doing. It gives me a better understanding and it may help me to convince my wife..

.. At first, I had planned on dropping in a Magnum 5.2l and doing what I could to build a "retro/cruiser" type ride with modern conveniences.. See how you are doing this, I think I'd like this direction better..

I am going to lay out a material build sheet to check the difference of cost between what I had planned and what you are doing. I think your way will end up the less costly.

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 04/15/14 03:10 PM

Measuring up for wheels. The 295's are close in the back and the 275's in the front are really too wide. Try again with 275's and 245's�.

This stance is getting close.

295's.

275's.

Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 04/17/14 05:33 AM

I like the 295/275 combo, suites the big B-body.

Posted By: MuuMuu101

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 04/17/14 06:42 AM

Are there any other options for wheel offset? There are guys running 275 all the way around on A-bodies with a little modification and the right setup. I would assume your Roadrunner should have more room for meat.

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 04/17/14 03:47 PM

Quote:

Are there any other options for wheel offset? There are guys running 275 all the way around on A-bodies with a little modification and the right setup. I would assume your Roadrunner should have more room for meat.

Remember this is a LX strut front and not a Roadrunner Got plenty of room, just hitting the LX spindle.

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 04/17/14 03:50 PM

Quote:

I like the 295/275 combo, suites the big B-body.

I'm with you, but the owner doesn't want any issues with rubbing and prefers the 70's look. It's been tough enough just to convince him to have it sitting this low!! So it's narrower tires.

Posted By: mymcodebee

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 06/27/14 05:59 PM

How's the Runner coming?

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 06/27/14 06:20 PM

Quote:

How's the Runner coming?

Hoping to schedule some time in the next few weeks. Need to do a little finish welding and then put it up on the rotisserie and send it to media blasting.

Posted By: mymcodebee

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 06/27/14 06:58 PM

Cool. Can't wait to see some more pics.

Posted By: MileHighDart

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 07/12/14 01:06 AM

Freakin Amazing Build !

You have crazy skills, love it.

Posted By: KatFysh

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 07/21/14 11:31 PM

How are things coming along with this build?? I have a new "drive" for mine to get started on. I talked it over with my wife this past weekend and she is on board {for the most part} with me on the idea of going about doing my Barracuda in this way.. Thanks for posting the pics and steps along the way.. They helped me out soooo much in convincing her..She is still reluctant and would prefer me having the $$$$ if I sold it now, but I told her IF I did, I WILL get another and it would be a driver that would cost more than she'd want me to spend..

Posted By: KatFysh

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 08/14/14 04:56 AM

crickets..

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 08/19/14 10:34 PM

Quote:

crickets..

Working on it this week. Will post pics in a few days.

Useless info. Just changed spools on the MIG. Put this on after I started the RR. I use a 30lbs. spool of .035 wire. Unwound that is 1.72 miles long. I have roughly 75 ft of welds in this car using almost 1-3/4 miles of welding wire. Ask me again why this is taking so long�.

Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 08/20/14 05:33 AM

Not just the welding but all that grinding.

Posted By: rapidtransitrick

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 09/28/14 06:54 PM

any new progress?

Posted By: KatFysh

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 10/18/14 11:07 PM

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 10/28/14 06:23 PM

Quote:

any new progress?

Scheduled for next week to start work again. Going to stay on it until it rolls to media!!

Hadn't really being staying on top of how long I've had this car. Time to push and finish it.

Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 10/29/14 06:01 AM

What does the customer think when no work is being done on their car? Just curios.

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 10/29/14 05:16 PM

Quote:

What does the customer think when no work is being done on their car? Just curios.

He knew from the beginning it would be something that we had never done and was told it would be worked on when I could. Price was accordingly. If you dropped this off and wanted it done in 3 months, expect to pay 60-80K plus. He was okay with when I could get to it!

Posted By: KatFysh

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 11/02/14 10:51 PM

I too can't wait for more posts.. I've been pricing auction Chargers so I know whats in store.. Quick question.. here in NY, I was told, that if I buy a salvageable auction car, which isn't a problem as my uncle is a used car dealer, the state does a follow up on what happens with the car during a rebuild and follows up on the after salvage inspection. Do you have any issues with that being in FL? I guess they want to make sure where the vin coded parts end up.ie;body,engine,trans etc etc.

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 12/03/14 01:28 AM

Back on this one this week. Got the bumper mounts done. I slugged the frame for a through bolt and then was able to weld in the outer frame panels. This will let me get this up on the rotisserie, finally, and finish welding up the bottom!

I know progress seems slow, but I only take a week at a time to work on this. This was a full day just making the mounts and welding the outer panels. The front end has to come off and back on three times!

Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 12/03/14 06:27 AM

It's looking very good.
Question - would you do this type of project again?

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 12/04/14 03:49 PM

Quote:

It's looking very good.
Question - would you do this type of project again?

Yes, but not cheaply!

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 12/04/14 03:53 PM

Left lots of little things not done or unfinished waiting to get a better position to fab or weld. Now I've got it!

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 12/04/14 03:57 PM

BTW, just for my own curiosity, I checked the door gap with a dial caliper before and after mounting on the rotisserie. Didn't change. Box rails and the LX floor structure is stout!

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 12/04/14 08:19 PM

Quote:

Freakin Amazing Build !

You have crazy skills, love it.

Sorry, looking back through and missed your comment. Thanks!!

Posted By: mymcodebee

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 12/04/14 09:38 PM

Nice Craig! I have been waiting for this post. Now I can go back over these pictures 10 times.. Nice work. I was anxious to see the undercarriage.

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 12/31/14 08:15 PM

Been on this for the last week. Lots of finish welding not worth showing. Did get the wheel houses tied in. This was a ton of work. Way more than I thought it would be. Cut down and fit the splash shield. Just need to add a few tabs for push pins. This IS the little stuff that eats up so much time.

Posted By: KatFysh

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 01/03/15 12:23 AM

The tie ins and finish welds are what sucks up all the time.. GREAT job though. Looks like ALOT of fab and fitting for a wheel well...

What is the "relief" piece where the black panel meets the red wheel house. The part where you ground it shiney.. circular in shape and a little dished.

Also, On the 1/4 panel you have "roll lip". Is this for the tire clearance? I thought it looked to fit nicely or are you just getting rid of the sharp edge of the panel so it won't hit the tire sidewall?

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 01/05/15 05:48 PM

The black part is the Charger outer wheel house. The shiny part is closing a big hole that is in that piece. I need the factory outers to mount the purge canister in the stock location and wheel speed sensor wiring. The other pieces are just transition pieces to connect to the cut down RR outer wheel house.

Was going to roll the lip with 295's. Not necessary with 275's.

Posted By: mymcodebee

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 01/06/15 03:39 PM

Craig. I have been meaning to ask this along the way and just saw a couple photos that show it pretty well. Is the stock width of the LX just slim enough to place the 2" X 4" structural steel rocker ties in between the two cars or did you have to trim the LX to fit them between. They look like they fit pretty well without trimming.

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 01/06/15 04:01 PM

Quote:

Craig. I have been meaning to ask this along the way and just saw a couple photos that show it pretty well. Is the stock width of the LX just slim enough to place the 2" X 4" structural steel rocker ties in between the two cars or did you have to trim the LX to fit them between. They look like they fit pretty well without trimming.

Yep, the LX is actually narrower than the RR. I used 2x5 square tube to tie the two together and "fill" the space in between. The LX floor supports are about 4-3/4" tall from the bottom of the pan to the top of the support, so 5" is what I needed. I didn't really show it, but once I cut open the rocker, I plug welded an 1/8" x 1" wide flat strip to the inside edge of each rocker, top and bottom. Once the 2X5 was welded to the rocker, it has another 1/8" angle welded from the 2x5 to the sill on the inside and on top. That's how you get over 50' of weld, each side!, for installing the box beam.

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 01/23/15 11:41 PM

Stock fuel filler is on the drivers side on a LX car. The fill and vent exit the tank on the left end, and with the tank under the backseat, running to the rear bumper didn't seem like the best solution.

Flush mount late model Challenger cap with a little Charger inspiration.

Posted By: Keepat

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 01/24/15 12:11 AM

The gas cap looks awesome! Now with the gas cap it�s 51% Dodge and 49% Plymouth ;-)
Pat

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 04/17/15 04:19 PM

Finished up the wire pass throughs and a bunch of little things to get ready for departure! Away she goes to media blast and epoxy powder coat.

Posted By: UCUDANT

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 04/18/15 03:10 PM

Amazing workmanship, this is simply a project on a whole other level

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 04/30/15 08:44 PM

Originally Posted By UCUDANT

Amazing workmanship, this is simply a project on a whole other level

Thanks! LOVE having this out of the shop for awhile!!

Posted By: TrxR

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 04/30/15 11:07 PM

Beautiful work. Would love to have a 68 charger built like that with a nice turbo hemi under the hood

Posted By: KatFysh

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 05/03/15 11:36 PM

Originally Posted By UCUDANT

Amazing workmanship, this is simply a project on a whole other level

Exactly...That's why I love it soo much..

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 05/06/15 12:35 AM

Thanks again guys. It is kinda like a kid to me now, enjoying it being at summer camp, but also anxious to get it back and get it out of the house for good!

Posted By: rapidtransitrick

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 05/23/15 01:38 AM

excellent progress

Posted By: sparcy

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 06/16/15 05:31 AM

looks awesome !!! love it

Posted By: Darius

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 06/16/15 05:22 PM

This build is so awesome! Some very crazy fab work to make this all fit. Did/ are you going to have to mess with the rear axle assy due to the wider width of the LX platform? That was one of the reasons I did not try to make the LX rear end fit in my swap.
I got 26 mpg right out the gate from my 5.7/NAG1 swap. It will be interesting to see how your build does. Since it has all the basic LX drive train It will be good all ready. Are you going to be able to eliminate.e the smog stuff?

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 06/19/15 01:28 AM

Originally Posted By Darius

Thanks Darius. Nope, everything stock SRT8. Just had to play with the backspacing on the wheels to make everything fit.

Originally Posted By Darius

I got 26 mpg right out the gate from my 5.7/NAG1 swap. It will be interesting to see how your build does. Since it has all the basic LX drive train It will be good all ready. Are you going to be able to eliminate.e the smog stuff?

Don't want to eliminate any emission's equipment. Part of the reason for doing a full late model. No stink from gas vapors, no stink or death from the exhaust, etc.. This is a late model car with all the thinks that make a late model nice to have!

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 06/19/15 01:31 AM

Originally Posted By rapidtransitrick

excellent progress

Thanks, Should be back next week wearing a powder coated epoxy primer.

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 06/19/15 01:31 AM

Originally Posted By sparcy

looks awesome !!! love it

Thanks, looking forward to finishing!!

Posted By: rapidtransitrick

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 07/08/15 12:43 AM

get her back yet? how does she look?

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 07/09/15 02:55 PM

Not yet. Their shop is a little behind on schedule. They decided to remove all the seam sealer and acoustic patches from the LX portion of the car due to the heat from baking the powder coat epoxy. That took them a few days longer and pushed the car out of rotation for coating. Better them than me!!!

Posted By: johnscudashop

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 07/09/15 05:06 PM

Great Work Craig.!. The gas cap is the icing on the cake.. Keep the pictures coming...

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 07/20/15 08:35 PM

Got a few pics from the blaster. They are terrible pics, so only posting one. More when I get it back.

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 07/21/15 08:27 PM

Couple more he sent.

Posted By: Keepat

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 07/21/15 10:39 PM

The grafting of the old and the new is awesome! It has been done before but this is the best I have seen!
Good luck with the build!
Pat

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 08/04/15 02:37 PM

Thanks. Should have stripped the car before starting. Customer bought it under the impression it was ready to paint. After welding in the rocker beams, the heat flaked the primer off the rocker. Underneath was unscuffed original B5 blue. Knew at that point a total strip was going to be needed. Found many areas that surface rust had been primed over.

It will need a full right side quarter due to a very poorly installed skin, but everything else is workable.

Next up is seam sealer and coating the bottom with bedliner. Customer wants a driver, not a show car. VERY happy to accommodate this!!! Install suspension and roll it off to body and paint.

Posted By: mr5racing

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 08/10/15 11:53 PM

looks great with a little bit of rake in the body. cool how you let customer decide on the preferred angle

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 10/01/15 06:31 PM

Just got this back this morning. Time to finish this up and send to body.

Posted By: Finoke

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 10/01/15 07:07 PM

Looking very clean! Can't wait to see it painted!

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 10/02/15 03:30 PM

Originally Posted By Finoke

Looking very clean! Can't wait to see it painted!

Me too! Got my new 6s phone. Camera is pretty damn good. These are with it.

Posted By: mymcodebee

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 10/17/15 05:21 AM

Looking great Craig!

Posted By: 6bblFLASH

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 11/04/15 01:53 PM

IMPRESSIVE!!!!!

So JEALOUS!!!!

Color????

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 11/08/15 12:38 AM

Color -

Posted By: Darius

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 11/08/15 04:26 AM

This is SOOOOOO sick! I'm looking way beyond the color Bro, fantastic clean detail in this pic. I absolutely LOVE the color too!

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 11/09/15 03:25 PM

Originally Posted By Darius

This is SOOOOOO sick! I'm looking way beyond the color Bro, fantastic clean detail in this pic. I absolutely LOVE the color too!

Thanks Darius. Starting to gain a little steam on this project!

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 11/09/15 08:15 PM

Few more pics. A little body work on the engine compartment, but nothing crazy. Left the spot welds and wavy panels for a production look. Epoxied the body work, which I also used as a sealer. Chroma premier base with Imron high solids clear. Need a little extra protection for this area of the car. Stupid expensive clear.

Finished seam sealing everything and next will be a tinted bedliner coating for the interior and bottom.

Posted By: mymcodebee

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 11/09/15 09:33 PM

Wow. Looking Great Craig. Love to look at the detail on the transition areas.

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 11/23/15 11:30 PM

Thanks. Finished shooting the liner. Ready to start putting it together, for the last time!!!

Posted By: Chally426

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 11/24/15 05:43 AM

What do you plan on doing with the door panels?

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 11/24/15 04:32 PM

Originally Posted By Chally426

What do you plan on doing with the door panels?

Stock door panel upholstered to match seats. I'll incorporate the LX door pull into the panel and fab an arm rest with the LX switches.

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 11/24/15 05:12 PM

The bottom:

Posted By: Chally426

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 11/27/15 11:49 PM

Might give you an ideal, but here is what I'm doing. I Modified a 2009 challenger panel with fiberglass and plastic to fit my Cuda door. Also using the new dash

Attached picture door panel1.jpg

Posted By: Chally426

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 11/27/15 11:54 PM

few more

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 01/14/16 09:11 PM

Haven't seen much interest in this build lately, so let me know if you want to see more pictures. May have strayed a little too far from the path for the purists! It's on B-bodies as well in the resto-mod section if I don't update here.

Posted By: mymcodebee

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 01/14/16 09:51 PM

Yes. Bring on the photos Craig. Love this Build!!

Posted By: Keepat

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 01/14/16 10:13 PM

Originally Posted By mymcodebee

Yes. Bring on the photos Craig. Love this Build!!

X2!!
please keep the update coming looks awesome!
Pat

Posted By: Hooligan

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 01/15/16 01:43 AM

Yes! Please keep our eyeballs popping out with your insane Mopar! I assume that everyone else is suffering from the same ocular problem as me!

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 01/17/16 01:05 AM

Wiring, brake lines, diff, half shafts, and wheel bearing upgrade. Need to pressure was and then ready to install for the last time.

Posted By: Darius

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 01/17/16 05:26 PM

Dude!If this was my car I would NOT be sleeping now. It is close Bro, wish I could at least take it for a test drive! I would LOVE to be a fly on the wall when you tell people how much you SHOULD have charged to build this!

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 01/20/16 12:53 AM

Originally Posted By Darius

Thanks Darius, if it was my personal car, yeah, I'd be burning the midnight oil. As it is now, it's still filler work (although I have no shop time that needs to be filled!), and work on it when I can...but do find myself working a little later now!!

I tell people if you want one, bring an absolute obscene amount of money, otherwise, never again!

Couple more pics:

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 01/22/16 01:28 AM

Just not complete without this:

The Nivomats have it sitting high. Will adjust once it is complete.

Posted By: JpRngr

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 01/24/16 12:20 AM

I've had this page bookmarked for months now, so, yeah, keep the updates and pics coming!!

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 01/27/16 01:46 AM

Thanks guys,

Firewall pad in and time to start laying harness.

Posted By: Darius

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 01/27/16 05:00 AM

I know where you are headed now Bro! I put a few pics up on your FBBO thread showing how I did the dash cover install in case you want some examples or ideas to start from, IF you don't already have it figured out. Be careful cutting the plastic breakaway panel on the pass side where the airbag was.

Yep, better have a money tree in your yard. Don't know your deal with the owner and it is none of my business but I DO know he is getting a screaming deal whatever you charge him!

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 01/27/16 03:19 PM

Originally Posted By Darius

Thanks Darius,

I have kept your pics on file for the upholstery shop!! I got the frame and dash to bolt in...that's it. The rest is for someone else!! I can already see spending ridiculous time getting the cosmetics right, and I already have ridiculous time in this. Told my customer from the get go, interior cosmetics and upholstery is for someone else!

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 01/27/16 08:07 PM

Adjustable pedals, e-brake assembly, column, etc...

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 02/04/16 12:50 AM

Threw the fenders on and bumper to fit the washer bottle. Need to make the surge tank and P/S reservoir bracket, and then calling it done up front.

Posted By: rapidtransitrick

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 02/07/16 02:31 PM

nice attention to detail. i assume you are in the process of fabbinf your frnder attachment points

Posted By: rickyrodder

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 02/07/16 06:15 PM

you've brought this build a long way. very nice!

Posted By: barracuda7199

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 02/08/16 03:38 AM

I'm only about an hour and half from Jacksonville. Really need to come check your builds out!
The attention to detail is crazy!

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 02/08/16 04:04 PM

Originally Posted By rapidtransitrick

nice attention to detail. i assume you are in the process of fabbinf your frnder attachment points

Thanks. Already done. You'd have to dig through the pics to see them bolted. The green tape squares are covering the bolt holes.

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 02/08/16 04:07 PM

Originally Posted By rickyrodder

you've brought this build a long way. very nice!

Thanks. It was ready to fire up and head to the body shop, but got thrown a curve from the owner. He wants me to fit the dash shell and get it ready for upholstery. This was not on my list!! So a few days on that and then it can leave.

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 02/08/16 04:10 PM

Originally Posted By barracuda7199

I'm only about an hour and half from Jacksonville. Really need to come check your builds out!
The attention to detail is crazy!

Thanks. Sure, your welcome to come by the shop whenever, just call first and make sure I'm here. I'm in and out for parts, programming, etc...

I'm starting back on the 'Cuda when the Roadrunner goes to body. That car is going to be pretty trick...wait till you guys see some of the parts and pieces....

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 02/10/16 12:27 AM

Got the coolant tank and P/S reservoir mounted. Keeping it Mopar and used the SRT res and a coolant tank from 2003- Hemi Ram.

Posted By: mymcodebee

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 03/31/16 06:58 PM

Craig can you show a few pics of the dash work too. I know you're probably not excited to be doing the dash but would love to see the process..
Thanks

Posted By: rickyrodder

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 04/25/16 12:44 AM

Originally Posted By mymcodebee

Craig can you show a few pics of the dash work too. I know you're probably not excited to be doing the dash but would love to see the process..
Thanks

yes i think we'd all like to see the process

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 04/25/16 06:04 PM

Ask and you shall receive. The owner having a little fun before heading to the body shop.

https://youtu.be/V0GwC8SEHVY

Posted By: Darius

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 04/26/16 03:08 PM

So bad ass! I am completely jealous and I am in the midst of an 8 day vacation having nothing to do with anything but driving mine! 800 pretty much trouble free miles so far and last fill up got 23.6 mpg. Your client will have an even bigger smile than mine!,,,

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 04/26/16 04:28 PM

Originally Posted By Darius

Thanks Darius. Not sure who's happier, me, to get it out of the shop and actually get to work on my 'Cuda, or the owner, to have it back for a few days before heading to the body shop.

Posted By: MoparJunkie

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 11/29/17 04:45 PM

Craig, any update on this build????? Curious as to how it turned out?

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 04/21/18 05:52 PM

Originally Posted By 70HemiShaker

Craig, any update on this build????? Curious as to how it turned out?

Sorry guys, I don't check this thread!

Car is in paint jail at Tom Argue's shop. Been there since my last post! Being told "almost ready to paint" for about that same time. The car owner is more than a little ticked off. it still has to go to upholstery after paint...

Posted By: ihv800

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 04/21/18 10:31 PM

Shame to hear it's stuck in paint jail, hopefully that can get sorted soon! Thanks for the update. What an amazing build, you are a very talented guy. Not to go off topic, but what is the status of your Cuda? Two of my favorite builds!

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 08/06/18 04:31 PM

Car is STILL in paint jail...almost 3 years. Supposed to be painted in the next month or so. Heard that a few times...

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 08/06/18 04:33 PM

Originally Posted By ihv800

Thanks, Cuda is here: http://lateral-g.net/forums/showthread.php?t=52748

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 08/07/18 03:56 PM

Light at the end of the tunnel...

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 08/08/18 10:11 PM

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Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 08/08/18 11:52 PM

Posted By: rocksmopar

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 08/10/18 01:47 PM

Man that color is sweet! Looks great

Posted By: CDN72SE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 08/13/18 10:44 PM

Beautiful!

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 10/08/18 09:23 PM

Thanks guys. Few more before going to upholstery.

Posted By: rocksmopar

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 10/09/18 02:08 PM

Man is that sweet

Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 10/12/18 02:17 AM

Amazing build! If you were to do this kind of build again what do you think a ball park $$ figure would be for it?? Knowing what you now know, would you even consider doing another build like this? Thanks for sharing the journey, I have enjoyed watching the build.

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 10/15/18 02:43 PM

Originally Posted By Superfreak

Not sure I would do it again...labor alone would be 40K plus!

Posted By: MuuMuu101

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 10/16/18 03:50 AM

Originally Posted By CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Not sure I would do it again...labor alone would be 40K plus!

Yeah, I found out what the cost of labor was with my Dart.

Posted By: Greenwood

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 10/17/18 06:02 AM

I'm actually shocked that the labor is only $40k. I'd have guessed double that. Or is that internal cost, as opposed to shop rate?

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 10/17/18 02:43 PM

Originally Posted By Greenwood

I'm actually shocked that the labor is only $40k. I'd have guessed double that. Or is that internal cost, as opposed to shop rate?

It's the plus! Depends on the level of finish.

Honestly, you'd have to bring me an obscene amount to even consider it again!

Posted By: Silver70

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 10/18/18 06:20 PM

After seeing the cuda build where it was getting close to done then you redid a lot of it, I think you'll be doing another like this before too long

Obviously it's a ton of work, but to me it's better than doing stock restos where it feels like you work on an assembly line just doing the same things over and over.

Posted By: MoparJunkie

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 02/17/20 07:48 PM

Any news on this car lately???? Finished or still waiting????

Posted By: Bakaruda

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 03/01/20 03:14 PM

I absolutely love your car!

Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 03/24/20 12:50 PM

Sorry guys, I rarely check this forum and never get notifications. Car is at upholstery. Easier to link a thread with updates that is up to date:

https://www.forbbodiesonly.com/mopa...conversion-not-a-body-over.99675/page-11

Posted By: sixbbl 69

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 03/24/20 01:59 PM

this is just for the numbers guys, is this a rebody 70 road runner or the charger?
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Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 04/13/20 12:57 PM

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Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 04/13/20 12:58 PM

Posted By: MoparJunkie

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 04/13/20 01:09 PM

That is Awesome!!!!!

Posted By: RCKTMN

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 04/13/20 02:16 PM

The interior looks fantastic!

I especially like the customization to the steering wheel.

Posted By: rocksmopar

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 04/15/20 12:19 PM

Man, even the trunk looks neat and clean....Great Job

Posted By: roadrunninMark

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 04/15/20 05:08 PM

Incredible, I can't describe it any other way.

Posted By: Old_Moparz

Re: 1970 RoadRunner SRT8 - 07/28/20 07:08 PM

Absolutely incredible! Thanks for sharing all the pics, too.