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Stuffing in a 440 and 4-speed

Posted By: Commando1

Stuffing in a 440 and 4-speed - 12/31/10 11:43 PM

I'm constantly grazing on For Sale ads for the perfect NON - MOPAR to stuff a 440 and A833 4 speed into.
I've seen some Sapparos but it's too Ricer for me.
Basically, I don't want to turn one metric bolt.
And I don't want to go tubular to make it fit. I want that BB to cradle in there as if it came from the factory that way.

After a long, long, time searching, I'm stumped.
What kills me is that I see BBC's stuffed into just about anything.
Posted By: rabid scott

Re: Stuffing in a 440 and 4-speed - 01/01/11 07:18 AM

I built this 1931 Ford Coupe three or four years ago with a 383, A-833 4 speed overdrive, and 8 3/4 rearend in it.

It was fun!!

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Posted By: Commando1

Re: Stuffing in a 440 and 4-speed - 01/01/11 02:18 PM

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I built this 1931 Ford Coupe three or four years ago with a 383, A-833 4 speed overdrive, and 8 3/4 rearend in it.

It was fun!!


Nice job.
And half the people at the car shows look at it and say "what engine is that?" and the other half say: "Wow, a Hemi"...

Right?
Posted By: John_Kunkel

Re: Stuffing in a 440 and 4-speed - 01/01/11 08:16 PM


A friend stuffed the entire drivetrain from a wrecked '70 440-6 Coronet R/T into a '70 Gremlin (wasn't Mopar at the time). Wish I had pics, everything including the 833 and Dana fit pretty well.
Posted By: DaytonaTurbo

Re: Stuffing in a 440 and 4-speed - 01/01/11 08:41 PM

How about a bricklin sv-1? Project ones pop up for a reasonable price from time-to-time and those cars were originally V8/rwd. I think one with a 440/4sp would be very cool.
Posted By: Commando1

Re: Stuffing in a 440 and 4-speed - 01/01/11 08:52 PM

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A friend stuffed the entire drivetrain from a wrecked '70 440-6 Coronet R/T into a '70 Gremlin (wasn't Mopar at the time).


I always figured them as being a great candidate. Trouble is, ever since Wayne's World, ugly little AMC's have become pricey...

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How about a bricklin sv-1?


Believe it or not, I looked at those POS's extensively when Malcom started shipping them. Every single one of them came with a bill of materials of parts MISSING as delivered and would be supplied later.
After closely crawling all over them, my only thought was that those VW dune buggy conversion kits were of better quality.
Posted By: DaytonaTurbo

Re: Stuffing in a 440 and 4-speed - 01/02/11 01:14 AM

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How about a bricklin sv-1?


Believe it or not, I looked at those POS's extensively when Malcom started shipping them. Every single one of them came with a bill of materials of parts MISSING as delivered and would be supplied later.
After closely crawling all over them, my only thought was that those VW dune buggy conversion kits were of better quality.



Maybe that's a good thing. Would give you the chance to go over the car and fix all the little things the factory did wrong if you picked up a project one for a decent price. Hell, I find myself doing that on my old mopar.
Posted By: Commando1

Re: Stuffing in a 440 and 4-speed - 01/02/11 01:41 PM

True. Can't make it any worse....
Posted By: migsBIG

Re: Stuffing in a 440 and 4-speed - 01/02/11 02:04 PM

I have seen a few cars popping up lately that were popular for those v converions back in the 70's an 80's. Try checking out early 70's oldsmobile Opels, dodge colts, datsun 240z and Volvo p1800. Those have always been cool upgrades, had good chassis, suspension decent pricing and modernish designs.
Posted By: motomatt383

Re: Stuffing in a 440 and 4-speed - 01/03/11 04:15 AM

I've wanted a Pacer wagon for yrs. someday I'll find the right one. what about the little Dodge D-50's and the Plymouth Arrow pickups. Heck even an Arrow would be cool. I just found a late 40 Studebaker pickup that's screaming for that drivetrain!!
Posted By: redraptor

Re: Stuffing in a 440 and 4-speed - 01/03/11 01:55 PM

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I'm constantly grazing on For Sale ads for the perfect NON - MOPAR to stuff a 440 and A833 4 speed into.
I see BBC's stuffed into just about anything.


Wow! That's a tuff nut if you have no direction you're leaning towards.
Saw pics of a BBC stuffed in a Nash Metropolitan.
Posted By: Commando1

Re: Stuffing in a 440 and 4-speed - 01/03/11 02:23 PM

I think a Miata would be a good candidate but, it violates my 'No Metric" policy.

Go out there and eat up those Monster Miatas for breakfast...
Posted By: MuuMuu101

Re: Stuffing in a 440 and 4-speed - 01/04/11 12:59 AM

I found the perfect candidate for you:

http://rides.moparmusclemagazine.com/ride/1203143/ripley21/2001/chrysler/pt-cruiser/index.html
Posted By: Mopar Ron

Re: Stuffing in a 440 and 4-speed - 01/04/11 01:57 AM

I have always wanted to do an Opel GT

but you would probably have to do a tube chassis

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Posted By: Mopar Ron

Re: Stuffing in a 440 and 4-speed - 01/04/11 02:03 AM

but I like this Too
henry J with a 440 4 speed would be real fun

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Posted By: B1arno

Re: Stuffing in a 440 and 4-speed - 01/04/11 02:45 AM

I know you are looking for a non Mopar but there is a decent shape Dodge colt for sale in the SF Bay Area. Haven't seen one of those in awhile.
Posted By: Commando1

Re: Stuffing in a 440 and 4-speed - 01/04/11 01:20 PM



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I found the perfect candidate for you:

http://rides.moparmusclemagazine.com/ride/1203143/ripley21/2001/chrysler/pt-cruiser/index.html

Posted By: RonTheAnnouncer

Re: Stuffing in a 440 and 4-speed - 01/06/11 05:23 AM

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I found the perfect candidate for you:

http://rides.moparmusclemagazine.com/ride/1203143/ripley21/2001/chrysler/pt-cruiser/index.html




I would get into a LOT of trouble with that!
Posted By: DaytonaTurbo

Re: Stuffing in a 440 and 4-speed - 01/06/11 07:45 AM

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I found the perfect candidate for you:

http://rides.moparmusclemagazine.com/ride/1203143/ripley21/2001/chrysler/pt-cruiser/index.html




I would get into a LOT of trouble with that!



Wow, sleeper would be an understatement! Can you imagine the look on the other guy's face after he gets spanked by an unassuming looking pt cruiser!
Posted By: Commando1

Re: Stuffing in a 440 and 4-speed - 01/06/11 02:55 PM

I find my seeing PT Cruisers in the used car lots as I drive by now and go "hmmmmmmm...."
Posted By: rabid scott

Re: Stuffing in a 440 and 4-speed - 01/06/11 08:51 PM

How about a Yugo?

Posted By: rabid scott

Re: Stuffing in a 440 and 4-speed - 01/06/11 08:58 PM

Even better, how about a Dodge Challenger.... a 1978 Dodge Challenger!

Posted By: Commando1

Re: Stuffing in a 440 and 4-speed - 01/08/11 01:09 PM

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How about a Yugo?


How about you go....
Posted By: OrangeProwler

Re: Stuffing in a 440 and 4-speed - 01/09/11 08:42 AM

How about this?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1972-Merc...=item3f0641c678
Posted By: OrangeProwler

Re: Stuffing in a 440 and 4-speed - 01/09/11 08:45 AM

Or this...

http://www.ecarlist.com/showroom/1909/photos/986571#03
Posted By: OrangeProwler

Re: Stuffing in a 440 and 4-speed - 01/09/11 08:46 AM

Or this kind of Mopar lol.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MATADOR-S...=item25603ac70b
Posted By: OrangeProwler

Re: Stuffing in a 440 and 4-speed - 01/09/11 08:50 AM



http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1967-Roll...c1850352d#v4-43
Posted By: OrangeProwler

Re: Stuffing in a 440 and 4-speed - 01/09/11 08:55 AM



http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Right-Han...=item19c228eb7d
Posted By: OrangeProwler

Re: Stuffing in a 440 and 4-speed - 01/09/11 09:14 AM

Posted By: Commando1

Re: Stuffing in a 440 and 4-speed - 01/09/11 01:55 PM

Don't you think for one second that I haven't been eyeballing these.

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Been looking for one of these like forever....

Posted By: Sasquatch4406

Re: Stuffing in a 440 and 4-speed - 01/10/11 11:59 PM

how bouta plymouth cricket!
Posted By: Commando1

Re: Stuffing in a 440 and 4-speed - 01/11/11 02:27 PM

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how bouta plymouth cricket!


Didn't Sox & Martin already do that?
Posted By: redraptor

Re: Stuffing in a 440 and 4-speed - 01/11/11 07:56 PM

Avanti?
Posted By: OrangeProwler

Re: Stuffing in a 440 and 4-speed - 01/12/11 12:17 AM

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Don't you think for one second that I haven't been eyeballing these.

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Been looking for one of these like forever....





That 4 door was on Ebay for pretty cheap if I remember right. Can't recall but, I think $3500 was the BIN.
Posted By: Commando1

Re: Stuffing in a 440 and 4-speed - 01/14/11 01:06 PM

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Avanti?


I owned an Avanti.
The world's sexiest looking car is also the world's biggest P.O.S.
Never, ever, again.
Posted By: 79powerwagon

Re: Stuffing in a 440 and 4-speed - 01/14/11 01:33 PM

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Don't you think for one second that I haven't been eyeballing these.

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Been looking for one of these like forever....





Really? One on our local CL almost everyday from Thanksgiving until around Christmas, really clean car CHEAP!

Here it is

http://milwaukee.craigslist.org/cto/2126171507.html
Posted By: 79powerwagon

Re: Stuffing in a 440 and 4-speed - 01/14/11 01:35 PM

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Try checking out early 70's oldsmobile Opels,



Buick sold the Opels.
Posted By: redraptor

Re: Stuffing in a 440 and 4-speed - 01/18/11 02:19 PM

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I owned an Avanti.
The world's sexiest looking car is also the world's biggest P.O.S.
Never, ever, again.


Sexiest? Hmmm. Maybe. Picked up this a few months ago. Wanting to do a v-8 conversion. Not sure what direction yet. Sb chevy is cheapest/easiest over a Lexus. That Conquest TSI was a good looking car too but I know, NO METRIC!
Posted By: Commando1

Re: Stuffing in a 440 and 4-speed - 01/18/11 05:49 PM

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Picked up this a few months ago. Wanting to do a v-8 conversion. Not sure what direction yet. Sb chevy is cheapest/easiest over a Lexus.


My decision (and life) would be so much easier if I would consider a SBC to stuff into something but I know Mopars and the Devil you know....
Besides, I don't know if I can deal with asking questions to those kids in the Chevy forums.
Posted By: redraptor

Re: Stuffing in a 440 and 4-speed - 01/19/11 09:36 PM

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Besides, I don't know if I can deal with asking questions to those kids in the Chevy forums.



I'm there now on celicasupra.com
Posted By: Commando1

Re: Stuffing in a 440 and 4-speed - 01/19/11 10:42 PM

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I'm there now on celicasupra.com


Even worse.
Posted By: oldefar

Re: Stuffing in a 440 and 4-speed - 01/21/11 01:39 AM

What about this? My daughter's '87 Dodge Daytona Turbo Z Would take a few hours work, but guess it would be worth it. Saw a Chrysler Strattus once, with the 440 MOPAR engine. Approx. the same ammount of work I guess.

Einar in Norway.

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Posted By: Commando1

Re: Stuffing in a 440 and 4-speed - 01/21/11 03:21 PM

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What about... '87 Dodge Daytona Turbo Z Would take a few hours work,


Excuse me? A few hours work? That's a FWD, my friend. This ain't Chop, Cut, & Rebuild.
And I don't have them skills.
Posted By: Supercuda

Re: Stuffing in a 440 and 4-speed - 01/22/11 01:06 AM

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What about this? My daughter's '87 Dodge Daytona Turbo Z Would take a few hours work, but guess it would be worth it. Saw a Chrysler Strattus once, with the 440 MOPAR engine. Approx. the same ammount of work I guess.

Einar in Norway.



Not sure that is an 87, I owned an 86 that had the same head lights, I believe the 87's have hidden head lights.
Posted By: BlakDak

Re: Stuffing in a 440 and 4-speed - 01/22/11 04:52 AM




I know its FWD, but it already has leaf springs in the back
Posted By: Commando1

Re: Stuffing in a 440 and 4-speed - 01/23/11 02:19 PM

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I know its FWD, but it already has leaf springs in the back


Hmmm. That could possibly be the new Hemi Under Glass racer....
Posted By: rattler

Re: Stuffing in a 440 and 4-speed - 01/23/11 06:05 PM

We saw a mini van at Indy for the Mopar nats years ago that had a nasty 440 in it. It was like listening to a ventrilaquist, you knew where the sound was coming from ,but it just didn't seem right. I asked the guy why and he just replied-------- why not?
Posted By: redraptor

Re: Stuffing in a 440 and 4-speed - 01/24/11 01:56 PM

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I know its FWD, but it already has leaf springs in the back



Try the button on the right
Posted By: oldefar

Re: Stuffing in a 440 and 4-speed - 02/02/11 12:04 AM

As for the few hours work: Could you possibely understand a joke? And for the modelyear: I just wrote what is in my Norwegian DMV's registrationpapers. If anybody can tell me for sure it's an '86, I'd sure appreciate that.

From my point of view the above wasn't the most important here. The car was simply my input in this thread as an idea of what to go to work on to have something special. Or in other words, my humble answere to the question asked.

And by the way, The Strattus is also a FWD.

Einar in Norway.
Posted By: MuuMuu101

Re: Stuffing in a 440 and 4-speed - 02/02/11 02:07 AM

I found something even better!

Before:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_g_IZSZMsTA&NR=1

After:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSVb13xBaBI
Posted By: shinnery

Re: Stuffing in a 440 and 4-speed - 02/03/11 08:06 AM

On the Daytona, in the VIN a 86 is a G and a 87 is a H. I think it is the 10th digit.
Bryce
Posted By: MuuMuu101

Re: Stuffing in a 440 and 4-speed - 02/04/11 05:08 AM

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I found something even better!

Before:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_g_IZSZMsTA&NR=1

After:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSVb13xBaBI



Here it is drag racing 1/8 mile with a Bumble Bee Stripe!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEULjkKwWw0&feature=related
Posted By: redraptor

Re: Stuffing in a 440 and 4-speed - 02/04/11 02:10 PM

I suppose that would qualify once all the metric bolts were removed.
Posted By: Commando1

Re: Stuffing in a 440 and 4-speed - 02/04/11 03:47 PM

Ice drag racing...
Honda Civic...
440...
Posted By: MuuMuu101

Re: Stuffing in a 440 and 4-speed - 02/04/11 10:54 PM

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Ice drag racing...
Honda Civic...
440...




Hey, that's the smiley you wanted to use on me earlier
Posted By: MuuMuu101

Re: Stuffing in a 440 and 4-speed - 02/04/11 11:04 PM

Hey, I have a Dodge Stealth. And I have a left over 318. I'm going to need a rear end to get rid of that FWD. Maybe I should try building up my 318 or just buy a 440 and drag race with it!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmGSu5jO4ak&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3UwRgaJajU
Posted By: foz

Re: Stuffing in a 440 and 4-speed - 02/18/11 11:55 PM

Buy a nice & clean 6 cyl. '69 Camaro, put that 440/883 drivetrain in it and really tick off the Cheby guys! It's a very cool body style and a pony car to boot!
Posted By: DaytonaTurbo

Re: Stuffing in a 440 and 4-speed - 02/19/11 07:39 AM

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What about... '87 Dodge Daytona Turbo Z Would take a few hours work,


Excuse me? A few hours work? That's a FWD, my friend. This ain't Chop, Cut, & Rebuild.
And I don't have them skills.



Moparts user member dirt sells the conversion bits to turn those 80's fwd into rwd's... exlinecustomauto.com
Posted By: B5 Bee

Re: Stuffing in a 440 and 4-speed - 02/21/11 01:24 PM

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how bouta plymouth cricket!


Didn't Sox & Martin already do that?



They didn't have a Cricket but they had a '79 Challenger. It used to run at Gainesville in the '80s and early '90s. It met it's end about 7-8 years ago street racing in the Ocala National Forrest area.

How about a 440 in a '81-'92 Camaro. Plenty around to pick and with a good supply new and used parts. Besides, it would be throwing it back in the faces of Chevy lovers, just your style.
Posted By: Morty426

Re: Stuffing in a 440 and 4-speed - 02/21/11 10:42 PM

This could use a 440

http://stockton.craigslist.org/cto/2149084203.html
Posted By: redraptor

Re: Stuffing in a 440 and 4-speed - 02/22/11 12:40 AM

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Avanti?


I owned an Avanti.
The world's sexiest looking car is also the world's biggest P.O.S.
Never, ever, again.


I still say Avanti. Once you do this conversion and fix those problems you'd had it would be a great car. Kinda part of the hobby.
Posted By: U code RR

Re: Stuffing in a 440 and 4-speed - 03/18/11 05:46 PM

"And now for something completly different" how about a 50's or early 60's DIVCO milk/delivery truck? You definatly wouldn't see another one parked next to you in the parking lot, plus you could still haul in it!

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Posted By: Sponge

Re: Stuffing in a 440 and 4-speed - 03/28/11 12:12 AM

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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1967-Roll...c1850352d#v4-43



YEEESSSSSS!!!!!

Then you'd have to watch Cannonball Run and learn all the Shiek's lines.
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