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ABS brakes

Posted By: pitalplace

ABS brakes - 09/24/20 08:08 PM

I am building a 1934 Dodge 2 ton using a 1976 dodge F40 1 ton camper sub frame. Front of camper on original frame and the dana 70 dual rear end. I also will be using a 1996 dodge 360 engine, transmission and wiring harness. All of the electronic will be from the 96 dodge 1500. My question is can I just eliminate all the abs stuff, wiring and stuff? And just run brake lines straight to the master cylinder.
Posted By: pitalplace

Re: ABS brakes - 09/24/20 08:18 PM

Thought I would post a picture of the project. It is a lot further along than this mock up photo but it will give you an idea.

Attached picture 34 dodge in phase 1.jpg
Posted By: poorboy

Re: ABS brakes - 09/25/20 02:03 AM

I've eliminated the abs brakes on a couple projects with no ill effects. We have put over 60,000 miles on my 48 Plymouth coupe that I eliminated the ABS from. I ran the rear line directly to the rear hose and then replaced the hard lines across the axle to the wheel cylinders. Then I removed anything ABS related. That was with a 1990 harness, everything ABS was pretty much stand alone. I suspect when you get into the newer models, eliminating the system may still get you a dash light (that you can pull the bulb out of). I'm using a 96 Dakota donor with ABS on my current project. This one has the full on 4 wheel system, one would have to redo all the brake lines on this one. Its going to be a 4x4 used during the winter, I'm thinking I'm keeping this ABS system.
I can tell you that through those 60K miles, there were a few times I wished the ABS still worked, but for the most part, I haven't missed it. Gene
Posted By: pitalplace

Re: ABS brakes - 09/25/20 02:17 AM

Thank you Gene for the answer. I would not be able to hook the wiring to the 1976 axles so I was thinking that is the way to go. I was not sure if I could eliminate the wiring. Do you think a dakota heating/ air conditioning unit would fit under the dash of the 1934? I would like to just be able to plug in the wiring.
Again Thanks for your help
Byron
Posted By: poorboy

Re: ABS brakes - 09/26/20 12:58 AM

I doubt the Dakota heat/AC will fit in a 1934, those vehicles are very small. There wasn't enough room to install a Dakota box in my 39 Dodge pickup, it wasn't even close. Just mounting a heater core with a fan attached and a small box around the outside was a major project. If you want heat and AC in a 34, your probably going to be stuck with one of the major after market compact heat/AC vendors out there like Vintage Air (their name is just an example, I have no experience with them or their products). Gene
Posted By: pitalplace

Re: ABS brakes - 09/26/20 04:59 PM

I know you are right I was just hoping that I might get lucky and find an easier/cheaper way to do it. Thank you for your replies and I will try to post some of the progress.
Posted By: Dabee

Re: ABS brakes - 09/29/20 11:10 PM

Originally Posted by pitalplace
Thank you Gene for the answer. I would not be able to hook the wiring to the 1976 axles so I was thinking that is the way to go. I was not sure if I could eliminate the wiring. Do you think a dakota heating/ air conditioning unit would fit under the dash of the 1934? I would like to just be able to plug in the wiring.
Again Thanks for your help
Byron


Tried that in my 55 Dodge truck. No room for it. I used a classic air minni II. It fit and still works great after 52,000 miles.
Posted By: poorboy

Re: ABS brakes - 09/30/20 12:00 AM

I'm building a 49 Dodge on a Dakota frame, The Dakota heat/ac box fits in the 49 cab (48-53), but I'm not to the point where I know what stuff won't fit. Everything is pretty tight, not much extra space. My issue at this point, is where I'm going to put the AC condenser. Not enough space to put it between the radiator and the nose piece. Gene
Posted By: pitalplace

Re: ABS brakes - 09/30/20 09:58 PM

I will probably be using the classic air system. Thanks for all the help.
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